New house transfer rules will not work as is!!!
Cozy
now.
******************From "In Development"****************
To trade a house to another player the owner of the house can:
Click the "transfer" button in the house options menu.
A targeting cursor will appear. The house owner can then target the
person they wish to transfer the house to.
A trade window will automatically appear.
The trade window will contain a deed in the current owner’s portion of
the window. This deed is not an actual house deed, but will display
the name of the house, the house type, and the sextant coordinates
of the house’s location.
The other player may then place gold (or other items) into his portion
of the window.
Once both participants have clicked the gems to agree to the trade,
the house will automatically be transferred to the new owner and the
deed will delete itself.
If the transfer is cancelled, the deed deletes itself and all other
items are returned to their owner.
You will not be able to transfer a house to a character that already
owns a house using this method.
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To be able to click on the buyer with the target cursor the seller and
buyer need to stand close to the house (= far from bank)
A house cost more gold then a person can carry, so how do one transfer
all that money from the bank to the trade window ?
And how do the previous house owner carry all the gold to the bank?
Maybe I missed some information some where?
I hope you don't put gold into the trade window, it's probably better
to write a number that says how much to transfer from the buyers bank
account to the sellers.
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(Cozy on Drachenfels in UO)
Eric A. Hall
> To be able to click on the buyer with the target cursor the seller and
> buyer need to stand close to the house (= far from bank)
> A house cost more gold then a person can carry, so how do one transfer
> all that money from the bank to the trade window ?
Use house deeds instead of money. They range between 40k for a small
wooden house to 1 million for a castle, and you get the same price back
as was paid so there's no loss. Actually the prices fluctuate over time
a little, so if you don't need the money right away you can hang onto
the deed and maybe get an extra nut in a few days or weeks. The deeds
are also newbiefied so they can't be stolen or looted.
I've done all three of my house transactions with deeds, works great.
Cozy
So what you say is that if I want 780 000 Gold for my 2-story house.
The buyer has to buy a few house deeds and then adjust the last amount
of gold with real gold? (As you can do with stamps IRL)
I don't think that's a good idea. But that's only what I think.
If you want 70 000 for a small placed house you have to accept one
small house deed and allmost 30 000 gold, that you can't carry.
I hope they do it a bit more easy to transfer houses.
Loke
(Cozy) wrote:
>I don't think that's a good idea. But that's only what I think.
>If you want 70 000 for a small placed house you have to accept one
>small house deed and allmost 30 000 gold, that you can't carry.
>
>I hope they do it a bit more easy to transfer houses.
I agree. The proposed idea will not work. A house deed can be sold
back at the amount it was purchased for. But prices varry quite a bit.
A small house goes from 38k to 44k. The difference with a two-storey
is more than 20k. Deeds are not a very good way to transfer large
sums, unless you don't care about a difference in the 20k size...
I can't see why a house cannot be sold like an item on a vendor? Let
the buyer purchase the house with gold directly from his bank account.
As an added feature, the gold could be placed directly into the
sellers bank account the way it works with selling back house deeds
now. All the routines for this are allready in the code. Let the
transfer option stay in the house menu with an added price box. When
the house is transfered, a box similar to that when you buy from a
vendor appears: Would you like to purchase a small wood and plater
house (12o 13" W 14o 15" S) for 75000gp, Yes, No? If yes is pressed,
the amount changes from one bank account to another...
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Loke
Yggdrasil (Europa)
Cozy
Yes!
You could just have a "For Sale" image on the house sign. When some
one double click the sign it opens with a prise and a button "Buy
Now". Money transfered between the banks.
Could not be much easier.
Erica Strafford
money to eachother.
Before the buyer goes to the house, have him go to the carpenter shop in
Brit and buy a house deed with all of the money he has. If he is still
carrying over 10K, but less than 50K, have him buy ship deeds (but not
actual ships) from the provisioner shop. Then, when you get to the house,
transfer the house for the house deeds and ship deeds. Several things happen
from this. First of all, house and ship deeds are newbiefied if they are in
your main pack. So NO ONE can take them once the trade is done. Secondly, no
matter how big the house is, the deed only weighs 1 stone. Third, if you
take the house deed back to the carpenter shop before the next server
maintenence time (5:00am), you get the same amount of money back as the
other person paid for it. But there is more.
Sometimes, you can take the deed back a few days later and get back MORE
than what he original buyer paid for it. Neither of you are out any money,
but you may have gained some money. This is similar to playing the stock
market, tho. You take your chances. Also, if you're a regular house-placer,
you automatically get another deed to place right away, if you don't want to
sell it back. But, the best part is....ALL money used to buy the house deed
comes straight from your bank account, and when you sell it back, all the
money goes straight back IN to your bank account. So in short, no one has to
carry very much money AT ALL.
Erica
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died a man."
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Cozy <co...@spamfilter.stormdragon.com> wrote in message
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: The new secure house transfer rules will not work as it愀 described
: now.
: ******************From "In Development"****************
: To trade a house to another player the owner of the house can:
:
: Click the "transfer" button in the house options menu.
: A targeting cursor will appear. The house owner can then target the
: person they wish to transfer the house to.
: A trade window will automatically appear.
: The trade window will contain a deed in the current owner's portion of
: the window. This deed is not an actual house deed, but will display
: the name of the house, the house type, and the sextant coordinates
: of the house's location.
: The other player may then place gold (or other items) into his portion
: of the window.
: Once both participants have clicked the gems to agree to the trade,
: the house will automatically be transferred to the new owner and the
: deed will delete itself.
: If the transfer is cancelled, the deed deletes itself and all other
: items are returned to their owner.
: You will not be able to transfer a house to a character that already
: owns a house using this method.
: ****************************************
: To be able to click on the buyer with the target cursor the seller and
: buyer need to stand close to the house (= far from bank)
: A house cost more gold then a person can carry, so how do one transfer
: all that money from the bank to the trade window ?
: And how do the previous house owner carry all the gold to the bank?
:
: Maybe I missed some information some where?
: I hope you don't put gold into the trade window, it's probably better
: to write a number that says how much to transfer from the buyers bank
: account to the sellers.
:
:
:
: Remove the "spamfilter" out of my emailaddress when making a reply
CrsadrJoe
draft-note against our gold for any amount. Daggerfall had this
feature because it was impossible to carry enough gold to purchase
houses and ships. Hey, that sounds familiar... :-)
Jeff Gentry
: Try this instead. My fiance and I use it when transferring large amounts of
: money to eachother.
Most people don't realize that you can transfer large amounts of money
just fine. I sold a house thru a broker recently and had 2 million
gold on me. My weight was around 40k, yet nothing dropped thru to the
ground.
The broker showed me the trick. First off - you can have *only* gold
in the reciever's side of the window. Secondly, instead of dropping
the gold in the window, continue to drop it on the target's character.
That is, the borker dropped 60k on me, it opened up a trade window.
Then he dropped another 60k on me. It appeared in the window. Then
another, then another, then another, etc.
When we completed the trade, all of the 60k stacks of gold were in
my backpack.
--
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"You're one of those condescending UNIX users! ...."
"Here's a nickel kid ... get yourself a real computer."
Mat
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> transfer option stay in the house menu with an added price box. When
> the house is transfered, a box similar to that when you buy from a
> vendor appears: Would you like to purchase a small wood and plater
> house (12o 13" W 14o 15" S) for 75000gp, Yes, No? If yes is pressed,
> the amount changes from one bank account to another...
I bet it's done with house deeds since they couldn't figure out how to make
the gold stack in 50k piles in the bank =)
--
Mat
Cozy
Well thats good to know. But how do you carry all the money to the
house where you need to be for the new secure house transfer?
Cozy
<nos...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>Try this instead. My fiance and I use it when transferring large amounts of
>money to eachother.
>
I think it's to much to ask of a person to run around and buy deeds.
Why not make it simple.
Maybe OSI don't want to add new graphics so the just want to use the
same old trade window? But if they do it will not be simple and intuit
as it should be.
Kiril Threndor
near the house then go to a bank with the window still open?
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Answer the call.
Mat
> Not sure if it would work but could you not bring up the trade window
> near the house then go to a bank with the window still open?
Messy.
Since vendors already can transfer money from/to bank then why not make the
money move from bank if you don't have enough with you and to bank of the
seller if it's too much to carry.
Also you could think about introducing cheques which you could buy from the
bank for 1% banking fee, they could be cashed by the recipient (who would be
selected by the owner double clicking on the cheque and then clicking on the
recipient) for free at the bank.
--
Mat
Cozy
<ult...@baywatch.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>Not sure if it would work but could you not bring up the trade window
>near the house then go to a bank with the window still open?
>--
>________________________________________________
>
>Kiril Threndor
>A swordsman, just not a very good one!
>
>Be true, Unbeliever
>Answer the call.
Maybe possible but not preferable =)
Cozy
<mat.n...@nospamhereeither.tackman.net> wrote:
>"Kiril Threndor" <ult...@baywatch.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>> Not sure if it would work but could you not bring up the trade window
>> near the house then go to a bank with the window still open?
>
>Messy.
>
>Since vendors already can transfer money from/to bank then why not make the
>money move from bank if you don't have enough with you and to bank of the
>seller if it's too much to carry.
Oopsss! Allways "TO" the bank. Or the nice buyer will turn ugly and
try to get the 3 000 000 gold back again.
>
>Also you could think about introducing cheques which you could buy from the
>bank for 1% banking fee, they could be cashed by the recipient (who would be
>selected by the owner double clicking on the cheque and then clicking on the
>recipient) for free at the bank.
>
>--
>Mat
>
>
Xigam
<ult...@baywatch.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>Not sure if it would work but could you not bring up the trade window
>near the house then go to a bank with the window still open?
Why not just open the bank box when the trade window comes up.. only
you can't use this as a feature to access your bank from home any time
you want.
Even better, how about the use their brains and make the house sign
clickable, put in a bidding system menu and have the money automaticly
withdrawn. Only eligiable people could bid (ie, those w/no house). The
seller could set the auction's parameters, min. bid, wont' sell to
red, etc.. the auction could run for 1 bid or x days..
- Xigam
- Xigam