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Runebooks will not be blessed

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Quaestor

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Nov 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/8/99
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From CoB:

Runebooks are meant for storage (in your bank and locked down in your house -
rune libraries). When traveling outside of protected areas you can still bring
a rune with you as you do now. There is no need to make the books blessed.

-Calandryll

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Well, since everything can be left in your bank box, there's no need for
anything to be blessed.

*sigh*

3 steps forward, 2 steps back.

Eric A. Hall

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Nov 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/9/99
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> Well, since everything can be left in your bank box, there's no need
> for anything to be blessed.

Personally, I feel that the game would be much more realistic if nothing
was newbiefied. Scissors that stay with your ghost is just plain silly.

I agree that it would hurt A LOT to lose a full spell book, but it hurts
a lot to lose a full suit of GM armor and weaps, which costs about the
same.

Jado

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Nov 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/9/99
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Eric A. Hall wrote in message <3827D485...@ehsco.com>...

>Personally, I feel that the game would be much more realistic if nothing
>was newbiefied. Scissors that stay with your ghost is just plain silly.
>

Umm, hello? Dragons, Ghosts running about resurrecting full-stop? Gate
travel, Orcs, Trolls, Ettins... And scissors on a ghost is making the game
less 'realistic' for you???

I see your point, I just though it sounded funny :)

Jado.

Quaestor

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Nov 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/9/99
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"Eric A. Hall" wrote:

> Personally, I feel that the game would be much more realistic if nothing
> was newbiefied. Scissors that stay with your ghost is just plain silly.

Ghosts that can be ressed are pretty silly, too.


> I agree that it would hurt A LOT to lose a full spell book, but it hurts
> a lot to lose a full suit of GM armor and weaps, which costs about the
> same.

You can buy another suit in minutes, and KNOW what you are getting. Not so
spellbooks.

Uwe Fischer

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Nov 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/9/99
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Eric A. Hall <eh...@ehsco.com> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
3827D485...@ehsco.com...

> Personally, I feel that the game would be much more
realistic if nothing
> was newbiefied. Scissors that stay with your ghost is just
plain silly.

It would also be much more realistic, if you could not
ressurect (only one example of nearly 2746 coming to my
mind). A ghost going to a healer and living again is
also plain silly. It is a fantasie game. There is not so
much demand for realism in UO:)

> I agree that it would hurt A LOT to lose a full spell
book, but it hurts
> a lot to lose a full suit of GM armor and weaps, which
costs about the
> same.

It costs the same, yes. But it is much more easy to replace.
You can go to a player verndor and buy new armour and
weapons. A spellbook buyed from other characters can´t be
checked berfore payment. You must really trust a person to
buy a spellbook from him.

Regards
Grizwood, Seneschall (MTB), Drachenfels
http://www.angelfire.com/mo/autumnvision/

Eric A. Hall

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Nov 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/9/99
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> It costs the same, yes. But it is much more easy to replace.

That's only because there are boat-loads of smiths and little market
demand for scribes. If spellbooks weren't newbiefied, I *guarantee* that
there would be a lot more scribes.

> You can go to a player verndor and buy new armour and
> weapons. A spellbook buyed from other characters can´t be
> checked berfore payment.

Item ID reports a value for a spell book based on the number of spells
that are in it.

Eric A. Hall

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Nov 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/9/99
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> You can buy another suit in minutes, and KNOW what you are getting.
> Not so spellbooks.

Item ID reports different values for spellbooks, depending on the number
of spells that are in them. A full spellbook will always have the same
price.

Eric A. Hall

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Nov 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/9/99
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> The idea was all a thief would have to do geld a mage would be to
> lift his spellbook.

It can't be stolen if it's equipped or in a ML chest.

Lars Friedrich

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Nov 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/9/99
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If you have GM Item Id you get perhaps always the same price.

Adam Russell

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Nov 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/9/99
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Eric A. Hall <eh...@ehsco.com> wrote in message
news:3827D485...@ehsco.com...
>
> > Well, since everything can be left in your bank box, there's no need
> > for anything to be blessed.

>
> Personally, I feel that the game would be much more realistic if nothing
> was newbiefied. Scissors that stay with your ghost is just plain silly.

I guess a ghost running around with scissors would be kind of ironic,
wouldn't it?

Quaestor

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Nov 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/9/99
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Adam Russell wrote:

> I guess a ghost running around with scissors would be kind of ironic,
> wouldn't it?

Alfred Hitchcock would approve.

Zaphkiel

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Nov 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/10/99
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>From: "Adam Russell" adamr...@msn.com

>Eric A. Hall <eh...@ehsco.com> wrote in message
>news:3827D485...@ehsco.com...
>>
>> > Well, since everything can be left in your bank box, there's no need
>> > for anything to be blessed.
>>
>> Personally, I feel that the game would be much more realistic if nothing
>> was newbiefied. Scissors that stay with your ghost is just plain silly.
>

>I guess a ghost running around with scissors would be kind of ironic,
>wouldn't it?

No, that would be wierd. Now if he had been killed by a
cyclops, and while running back to the healers to get rezzed,
he tripped and put one of his eyes out with those scissors, that
would be ironic.

--Zaphkiel

Erinn

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Nov 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/10/99
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On 09 Nov 1999 09:38:57 PST, "Eric A. Hall" <eh...@ehsco.com> wrote:

>
>> You can buy another suit in minutes, and KNOW what you are getting.
>> Not so spellbooks.
>
>Item ID reports different values for spellbooks, depending on the number
>of spells that are in them. A full spellbook will always have the same
>price.

Interesting! I hadn't realized they'd changed this. I checked it
out and you do get different values for different circle spellbooks.
I noticed that an 'Item ID wand' merely says 'a spellbook'. You have
to use the Item ID skill. Following results were with ~39% skill.

Blank Spellbook - 15 gold
1st Circle Spellbook - 67 gold
6th Circle Spellbook - 1361 gold
8th Circle Spellbook - 1917 gold

SInce I make spellbooks to sell on my vendor, I'll check out the other
Circles as I get them made up. Perhaps even work up an average price
per circle as you only get an estimate with Item ID.

--
Erinnyes Dragon -==(UDIC)==-
Erinn, Grandmaster Alchemist, Moonglow, Atlantic
Antium, Master Tailor, Moonglow, Atlantic
Cricket, Master Miner, Delucia, Atlantic

Richard Cortese

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Nov 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/10/99
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Erinn <sswe...@home.com> wrote in message news:38297b06.7418499@news...

> On 09 Nov 1999 09:38:57 PST, "Eric A. Hall" <eh...@ehsco.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >> You can buy another suit in minutes, and KNOW what you are getting.
> >> Not so spellbooks.
> >
> >Item ID reports different values for spellbooks, depending on the number
> >of spells that are in them. A full spellbook will always have the same
> >price.
>
> Interesting! I hadn't realized they'd changed this. I checked it
> out and you do get different values for different circle spellbooks.
> I noticed that an 'Item ID wand' merely says 'a spellbook'. You have
> to use the Item ID skill. Following results were with ~39% skill.
>
> Blank Spellbook - 15 gold
> 1st Circle Spellbook - 67 gold
> 6th Circle Spellbook - 1361 gold
> 8th Circle Spellbook - 1917 gold
>
> SInce I make spellbooks to sell on my vendor, I'll check out the other
> Circles as I get them made up. Perhaps even work up an average price
> per circle as you only get an estimate with Item ID.
It actually does seem to get better at higher skill levels.

Full spell books average 2600 gold IIRC, and seldom vary more then 200 gold
from that at just over 70 item ID.

Drifting back on topic >this has to be a first< it looks like rune books are
not intended for the general population but rather for the places that
maintain public rune libraries that would have been hit by item decay.

Which means what? Maybe 10 rune books will be made per shard? BFD! I am
going to run right out and finish getting my Hokuto scribe up to GM so they
can make a freaking rune book with their name on it.

Ah, just being bitter. I will actually make and charge rune books for each
of my characters to place in their bank boxes for those times when they lose
everything and just want to get to a friendly place to logout.

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