My advice....develop your hiding skill.  It's great to stand in the lich room,
watching a half-dozen people run around and get killed, while you're in a
nervous, hidden state huddled in the corner.  lol
Good luck.
Anasazi Dragon
Luke wrote:
> Hey all.
> Can a fighter malee / beat a pois ele??
> im at 100 swds,75 heal,96 anat,and woking up lumber jack,armour is at 68
> ,and i  have a good vanq and power swords,
> dex is 80 in plate and str at 100
> So is it possible to take on these green gas beasts on?
> ive herd of people doing it.I tryed a while back and got creamed,my tactics
> were all wrong tho!!
> any helps is welcomed.Im sick of running everytime i see one.
> Theres nothin funnier than being in the lich rooom and you see 3-4 guys go
> racing buy!!! u know whats commin....
> thanx.
>
> Jack of all master of one :)
Poison elementals, Blood Elementals, Dragons and wyrms, Balrons and Deamons
all appear to be pretty much Mage only monsters... not sure about Titans and
Cyclops and/or Terathean and Ophidian Matriarchs but I would guess they fall
into the same catagory. I suppose Ogre Lords fall here too. Silver Serpents
would definatly fall in the mage only catagory.
Liche Lords are more suited to Melee fighters as are lower level Ophidians
and Teratheans including all surface spawn and a large majority of dungon
spawn.
While on average the vast majority of monsters can be nailed with a dex
monkey... I think that due to the difficulty of magery trainning to a
high/GM level that in just about every RPG game there are a number of high
level monsters that can only be taken out with magery or mage assistance for
healing purposes.
    Now while this may seem unfair in favor of mages... remember once a mage
mana dumps they are pretty much helpless unless they have another skill they
can use which isn't a weapon ( we have to run away and sit there visible not
even talking to meditate making us sitting ducks ). Melee fighters can
pretty much wade in and whack away and heal not only themselves but other
warriors w/o having to disengage from combat. This dosen't even take into
account the massive AR differences between a dex monkey and a mage. I.E.
plate/chain Vs plain leather.
So while the melee warrior can take down a larger majority of Sosaria
spawn... some monsters just can't be tackled w/o use of magik
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=
High Queen and Goddess of the Tuatha Dé Danann.
As Macha she is Goddess of war and fertility
As Badb she is the water-goddess whose sacred well is a source of knowledge.
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"Luke" <H...@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
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I've meleed silver serpents and daemons with my dex monkey.
<snip>
: So while the melee warrior can take down a larger majority of Sosaria
: spawn... some monsters just can't be tackled w/o use of magik
However, these monsters simply weren't meant to be fought alone, period. 
A team of good warriors with healing and plenty of bandages can take down 
anything. 5 warriors standing around a dragon, each healing the guy next 
to them, will make short work of it. Warriors scale much better than 
mages, because of mana and the damage healed with bandages. The problem 
is that UO seems to lack the social aspect it was designed for, and 
you never see a few warriors beating on a high-level monster.
No single mage can take down any of these high level monsters and make a 
profit (unless there's a treasure map). A mage can kill them eventually 
because his attacks are ranged, but the cost in regs is too much to 
actually profit from these beasts. It's a shame that so much money can be 
made by beating on weak earth elementals, but tackling a dragon solo nets 
you next to nothing. 
Actually if we can trap them we can take them down solo... I trap Dragons
and Balrons and kill them solo... I admit... if I had to do it where they
could actually hit me I would take a dirtnap... I have before when the
balron got too close and I went down..
But with enough time and room to manuver... a mage can solo most monsters
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Mistress Morrigan (Trinity Goddess)
Pronunciation {mor-rig-ahn}
=
High Queen and Goddess of the Tuatha Dé Danann.
As Macha she is Goddess of war and fertility
As Badb she is the water-goddess whose sacred well is a source of knowledge.
As Neman she is the goddess of war and battle.
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"Patrick B Fisher" <pbfi...@blue.seas.upenn.edu> wrote in message
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> Mistress Morrigan (winte...@cyberspace.org) wrote:
> : Poison elementals, Blood Elementals, Dragons and wyrms, Balrons and
Deamons
> : all appear to be pretty much Mage only monsters... not sure about Titans
and
> : Cyclops and/or Terathean and Ophidian Matriarchs but I would guess they
fall
> : into the same catagory. I suppose Ogre Lords fall here too. Silver
Serpents
> : would definatly fall in the mage only catagory.
>
> I've meleed silver serpents and daemons with my dex monkey.
>
> <snip>
>
> : So while the melee warrior can take down a larger majority of Sosaria
> : spawn... some monsters just can't be tackled w/o use of magik
>
> However, these monsters simply weren't meant to be fought alone, period.
> A team of good warriors with healing and plenty of bandages can take down
> anything. 5 warriors standing around a dragon, each healing the guy next
> to them, will make short work of it. Warriors scale much better than
> mages, because of mana and the damage healed with bandages. The problem
> is that UO seems to lack the social aspect it was designed for, and
> you never see a few warriors beating on a high-level monster.
>
I think it's to encourage folks to work together, and to develop different
paths... so mages will assosiate with warriors and work together for a
common goal... encouraging team play.
Of course, someone like me with provoke on thier side, doesn't always need
help ;)  Just provoke everything else onto the PE, and hit it from behind
while it's busy ;) (course then it just finished everything else off, turns
on me, and OOooOoooO)
Oh well... I always seem to die when PEs are around ;)
Anasazi Dragon
>
>
> No single mage can take down any of these high level monsters and make a
> profit (unless there's a treasure map). A mage can kill them eventually
> because his attacks are ranged, but the cost in regs is too much to
> actually profit from these beasts. It's a shame that so much money can be
It isn't that bad. Given a choice between my mage and my tamer for tackling
high level monsters, I will go with the tamer most of the time. Sometimes it
isn't possible like Wind where the dragon won't go through the teleporter
and by the time you tamed one inside, someone else has killed the deamons.
The other big killers of PEs are boat captains. Shame lakes on Baja are wall
to wall boats. Once they get their boat set up, newbie archer with 50 resist
and a bow or some other low level character looking for resist and loot.
Yarahu
Anasazi heeft geschreven in bericht <39654625...@mindspring.com>...
>I've seen many attempt it, which usually results in the inevitable (insert
kewl
>name here i.e.)  "Phred da Killa begins to spasm uncontrollably."  Followed
by
>the obligatory OoOOoOoOOoo.  I tried two times with my 4x GM warrior, the
>Illustrious Neuro, who died both times after receiving deadly poison.  In
>short, I think that without a mage nearby to do quick cures, it's next to
>impossible to melee a P.E.  I did manage to kill a few last night with
>Madhammer, the mage.
>
>My advice....develop your hiding skill.  It's great to stand in the lich
room,
>watching a half-dozen people run around and get killed, while you're in a
>nervous, hidden state huddled in the corner.  lol
>
>Good luck.
>
>Anasazi Dragon
>
>Luke wrote:
>
That will be fixed soon, it seems - going to be nice seeing all those boats
people leave lying around in dungeons go *poof* when they patch that in.
Cheers ...
Geoffrey Hyde
It is a new bred of people that I haven't really run into much during my
life, the "Save me from myself" kind of thing. They seem to say, "If there
is an easy way out, I will take it, it is your fault and I hold you
responsible for me being bored."
I guess removing boats is easier then having PEs teleport onto decks.
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"Anasazi" <anas...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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Like the ones who brag about how many balrons they have killed when what
they really mean is they stand in the little pool in terra keep and
cheese em.
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