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Greywind

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Jan 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/16/00
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There are some serious pvp imbalances right now.

1 - horses. They need to be nerfed. There's no reason
why someone with a 10ms difference in ping should
either be god compared to you, or lunch meat simply
due to connection. horses need nerfing - period.

2 - pets. Teleporting pets. I can't believe that osi
is such a bunch of dumb****** that they gave pets
the ability to teleport. This has been a HUGE
problem for quite some time now. Richard Cortese
wonders why his tamer gets picked on so much.. well..
if I see a tamer taming a dragon, i'm either gonna
kill the dragon, or kill the tamer. Teleporting
dragons are asnine in this game.

3 - precasting. Sorry all you whining pre-casters, but
this is an "exploit" of the system. I don't want to
hear "creative" use of magic, as that's what house
looting was too.

4 - weapon delay. Why does archery have such a huge
delay, but a halberd doesn't? The equip delay
for archery needs to be shortened, and lengthened
for some other weapons. I'd make the delay weapon
based and not "skill class" based.

There.. 4 issues I think needs addressing.. before they
do some stupid massively buggy new feature like a party
system. Don't get me wrong, I'd like a simple little
party system in UO, but I'd like to see the game mechanics
straightened out first. and some bugs fixed.

Bane of Greywind

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Jan 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/16/00
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>There.. 4 issues I think needs addressing.. before they
>do some stupid massively buggy new feature like a party
>system. Don't get me wrong, I'd like a simple little
>party system in UO, but I'd like to see the game mechanics
>straightened out first. and some bugs fixed.

That's real nice Grey, but you should post this on the COB
Dev Board. No one uses this board but spammers, ranters,
plonkers, flamers, and newbies.

.../Baja

Richard Cortese

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Jan 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/16/00
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Greywind <hj...@home.com> wrote in message
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> 2 - pets. Teleporting pets. I can't believe that osi
> is such a bunch of dumb****** that they gave pets
> the ability to teleport. This has been a HUGE
> problem for quite some time now. Richard Cortese
> wonders why his tamer gets picked on so much.. well..
> if I see a tamer taming a dragon, i'm either gonna
> kill the dragon, or kill the tamer. Teleporting
> dragons are asnine in this game.
This is just another variation on noto killing though.

You would be killing my tamer not because they used a dragon against you,
but because they may be guilty of something.

In my case, I have never initiated an attack with any tamed animal, I have
only used them in defense.

Simon White

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Jan 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/16/00
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Bane of Greywind wrote in message
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Which are you?

>
>.../Baja

Mat

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Jan 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/16/00
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"Bane of Greywind" <wes...@aol.comNOSPAM> wrote in message

> That's real nice Grey, but you should post this on the COB
> Dev Board. No one uses this board but spammers, ranters,
> plonkers, flamers, and newbies.

Umm, this is a newsgroup, not a board.. you must be referring to some other
place ? =)

--
Mat

Greywind

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Jan 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/16/00
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So now I'm a NPK???? I didn't initiate the attack..
they did.. it went something like this :

dragon tamer : all guard me
dragon tamer : An Mani
Greywind : you are dead

how the fuck do get noto killing from that??

Greywind

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Jan 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/16/00
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Bane of Greywind wrote:
>
> >There.. 4 issues I think needs addressing.. before they
> >do some stupid massively buggy new feature like a party
> >system. Don't get me wrong, I'd like a simple little
> >party system in UO, but I'd like to see the game mechanics
> >straightened out first. and some bugs fixed.
>

> That's real nice Grey, but you should post this on the COB
> Dev Board. No one uses this board but spammers, ranters,
> plonkers, flamers, and newbies.
>

> .../Baja

hehe.. ok.. which one of those am i??

Damocles

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Jan 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/16/00
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On Sun, 16 Jan 2000 17:39:52 GMT, Greywind <hj...@home.com> wrote:

>There are some serious pvp imbalances right now.
>

And there will always be serious pvp imbalances. The biggest problem
PvP in UO has is that it's utterly pointless. There are no goals, no
ends other than one person being able to call the other a newbie and
screaming "TMO! TMO!". I'd much rather they fixed the blatant problems
like precasting and blue healing (both of which should have been done
ages ago) and built up a real system for players to enjoy. Even the
good / evil system on Siege would go a long way towards introducing
SOMETHING different for the rest of us who hate all the other
limitations that shard imposes.

Quaestor

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Jan 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/16/00
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Greywind wrote:

> There are

Fine troll.

Otara

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Jan 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/17/00
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On 16 Jan 2000 18:11:43 GMT, wes...@aol.comNOSPAM (Bane of Greywind)
wrote:

>That's real nice Grey, but you should post this on the COB
>Dev Board. No one uses this board but spammers, ranters,
>plonkers, flamers, and newbies.
>
>.../Baja

Which are you :)?

Otara

Otara

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Jan 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/17/00
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On Sun, 16 Jan 2000 19:11:56 -0000, "Simon White"
<be...@chalky.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

>>That's real nice Grey, but you should post this on the COB
>>Dev Board. No one uses this board but spammers, ranters,
>>plonkers, flamers, and newbies.
>

>Which are you?

Dammit. Should hahe thought of that.

Otara

Otara

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Jan 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/17/00
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Good god. Does that mean I'm about to start talking about how PvP can
be fun?

I agree that it a big problem with it as it stands. Even guild wars
feel a bit pointless to me.

Otara


On Sun, 16 Jan 2000 22:38:13 GMT, phae...@yahoo.com (Damocles)
wrote:

Ted Kaiser

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Jan 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/17/00
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heh....at least with a guild war like minded people can clobber each other
without getting guard whacked.

Quentin

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Jan 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/17/00
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> Horses are nerfed enough, thank you. A mounted knight should be MUCH
> more effective than a warrior on foot. The simple answer if you're
> getting whooped all the time by horsemen is to buy a horse.
>

Well if this was true that would be great. But its not true even if your on
a horse and you don't have a great connection the person with 10ms pings
will just blink on and off the screen.

Horses don't need to be nerfed they just need to be balanced reguardless of
your connection.

Quentin of Atlantic.


The Weeble King

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Jan 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/17/00
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Just wanted to point out that Halberds are slow, they're only quick and deadly
when first equipped(i.e., no arming delay, or very little, anyway..), a bug
just about every Axe-lovin' PK apparently exploits.

I used to goof with halberds now and again on my Swordswoman, but even the
first strike speed didn't make it any more worth using. Halberds are a piece of
shit weapon that doesn't do nearly enough damage..though the best i've used was
one of Force, so you Vanq. Hally handlers might say different.

Oh, and pre-casting is lame, only lamoes use it, so i agree that it should go
bye-bye, along with non-consensual PvP.

Screw Sunsword, screw Lord Brit, PKing is NOT essential to the game, it only
serves to make the experience of playing generally shitty when you have to look
"over your shoulder" every 5 seconds to see if some Red is rushing you to steal
your l3Wt..

I'm all for PvP, i've even had fun working over arguements with guildmates by
beating them silly.

Disable non-consensual PvP and the world will be a much better place, less new
players will quit the game out of frustration and just generally being pissed,
and more older players would start running around with the Vanq Weapons and
armor of Invulnerability they've been keeping in the bank..and maybe there
wouldn't be such a high demand for Valorite that it's dangerous to walk out of
town with it on...

Just adding my thoughts in....
Cyrus of Delucia,
Atlantic.

*Bring on the pain....*

Richard Cortese

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Jan 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/17/00
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Greywind <hj...@home.com> wrote in message
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If you see a known jerk taming a dragon, fire away, but killing tamers just
because they may at some time in the future or may have in some time in the
past used a dragon is worse<IMO since I tame> then killing every gray you
see because they may have done something that deserves killing. Personal,
but I would even kill a tamer that was supplying dragons to jerks.

I know there are jerk tamers, but I have only heard about them vs run into
them. I hang out in dragon areas a lot and run into more then a few tamers,
but have yet to meet a jerk tamer in person. Most of the tamers I know that
can tame a dragon are people like me, Mir, Dundee.

Otara

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Jan 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/17/00
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2000 02:47:14 GMT, OrionCA <ori...@earthlink.net>
wrote:

>Horses are nerfed enough, thank you. A mounted knight should be MUCH
>more effective than a warrior on foot. The simple answer if you're
>getting whooped all the time by horsemen is to buy a horse.

A mounted knight should also be rather scared of archery fire and
ending up underneath the horse amongst other things. Not to mention
little details like magic going off in their faces, undead attacks,
and the effects that kind of thing might have on rideability.

And then theres the riding them about in dungeons issue.....'duck'.

Its about game balance anyway - 'realism' can kill a game pretty fast.


>I agree about dragons: Dragons should NOT BE TAMEABLE. At least it
>should be a lot, LOT harder to tame one. These tamers running around
>3-4 in tow should be shot on sight. The new stabling rules they
>posted on "In Concept" should make this a lot harder to do. No more
>spare 6-pack of dragons to bring out on Fight Night.

You shoot them :). I dont think anything that suppsedly sentient
should be tameable.

>Unfortunately building a party system is (a) near and dear to the
>hearts of many players and (b) much easier to do than tinker with the
>combat engine. The combat engine is a very complicated piece of code
>that originally was written in a scripting language by the original
>Dev Team then partially converted to C by the 2nd Dev Team and then
>worked on by people trained in C++ in the THIRD Dev team and from
>discussions with the current Dev Team, there are parts of it that THEY
>are not 100% sure they know what these do anymore. If that sounds a
>little scary, it should be. What they want is write the whole thing
>over from scratch in C++ but they don't have the resources to do that
>right now: the 6-month plan has priority. Players seem to want
>houses and PK-free dungeons more than they want better archery or
>rewrites of the combat engine.

That explains a fair bit.

Otara

Greywind

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Jan 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/18/00
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Yes you are.

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