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Renjit Tom Thomas

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Mar 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/10/99
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I have recently started a smith character, and I went to smith some
ingots last night and I hear someone eating. I inquire why he is eating,
and I am informed that it helps the success of smithing items. I tried
this and immediately started succeeding almost everytime, whereas before
I had been failing 50% of the time on the chain coifs. I now wonder if
this is skill specific or if all skills are affected by food. Any other
skills people know are affected by eating please let me and the rest of
the newsgroup know. I am sure this would be helpful.


Woodsman Bob
Baja


Tyler Novak

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Mar 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/10/99
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In article <36E6F22B...@u.washington.edu>,

This is pure superstition or it is Raph lying.

Raph Koster has said flat out that eating has nothing to do with
skill success rate.

Eating only affects stamina and hit point gain regeneration.


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Agent Orange

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Mar 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/10/99
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I have noticed that Fruits and Vegetables tend to increase my
skill quicker. I became GM Mage in 3 nites from Zero eating
Fruits and Veggies alone...don't forget to down it with Milk
once in awhile!

Renjit Tom Thomas wrote in message <36E6F22B...@u.washington.edu>...


>I have recently started a smith character, and I went to smith some
>ingots last night and I hear someone eating. I inquire why he is eating,
>and I am informed that it helps the success of smithing items. I tried
>this and immediately started succeeding almost everytime, whereas before
>I had been failing 50% of the time on the chain coifs. I now wonder if
>this is skill specific or if all skills are affected by food. Any other
>skills people know are affected by eating please let me and the rest of
>the newsgroup know. I am sure this would be helpful.
>
>

>Woodsman Bob
>Baja
>

Opium

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Mar 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/10/99
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>
> I have recently started a smith character, and I went to smith some
> ingots last night and I hear someone eating. I inquire why he is eating,
> and I am informed that it helps the success of smithing items. I tried
> this and immediately started succeeding almost everytime, whereas before
> I had been failing 50% of the time on the chain coifs. I now wonder if
> this is skill specific or if all skills are affected by food. Any other
> skills people know are affected by eating please let me and the rest of
> the newsgroup know. I am sure this would be helpful.
>
According to DD himself it only affects hitpoint and stamina regeneration
and not stats or skill success / advancement rates.

Glaeken

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Mar 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/10/99
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Several folks have responded that according to DD, it affects hit point
regeneration.

I know thru many experiences that it also affects damage taken.....the
hungrier you are, the more damage you take. I've sparred many times with
fellow guildmembers, and when I'm hungry, I take lots of damage. As soon as
I eat some, my damage taken decreases.

Glaeken of LS

Renjit Tom Thomas wrote:

> I have recently started a smith character, and I went to smith some
> ingots last night and I hear someone eating. I inquire why he is eating,
> and I am informed that it helps the success of smithing items. I tried
> this and immediately started succeeding almost everytime, whereas before
> I had been failing 50% of the time on the chain coifs. I now wonder if
> this is skill specific or if all skills are affected by food. Any other
> skills people know are affected by eating please let me and the rest of
> the newsgroup know. I am sure this would be helpful.
>

> Woodsman Bob
> Baja


Lord Sargas Minot

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Mar 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/10/99
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Despite what DD says, I've found that eating increases my chance at skill
gain and success... I have no real data to confirm this, but anytime I'm
hungry, I never gain skill... I know many others like this... Something is
really wrong tho, we need to have eating looked at...

"Munches..."
-Lord Sargas


Stormblade

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Mar 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/11/99
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Explain to me how you get 100 magery in 3 nights :)

Agent Orange wrote:
>
> I have noticed that Fruits and Vegetables tend to increase my
> skill quicker. I became GM Mage in 3 nites from Zero eating
> Fruits and Veggies alone...don't forget to down it with Milk
> once in awhile!
>
> Renjit Tom Thomas wrote in message <36E6F22B...@u.washington.edu>...

Lone Wolf

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Mar 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/11/99
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I would like to confirm this for definite.

Eating just costs you money

Lone Wolf - DF

Tinarandil

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Mar 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/11/99
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Lord Sargas Minot wrote in message <36E7555F...@ix.netcom.com>...
I agree. At 54 bowyering, I made exceptional bows practically every time.
Now, I haven't eaten for a few days, and I am hard pressed to even make
standard bows. Also, I went from 33 to 54 in about six hours, now I have
been playing about twenty without eating and have seen no increase.

Lord Sargas Minot

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Mar 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/11/99
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This is just damn creepy. There has to be some kind of ghost proggy consuming
our food and helping us out... Like the UO Gremlin or something... Any
thoughts?

Tinarandil wrote:

"That's right, qoted it all..."
-Lord Sargas


Xigam

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Mar 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/11/99
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On Wed, 10 Mar 1999 21:32:15 -0800, Lord Sargas Minot
<sar...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:


I have to say.. Eating does help my cast magery.. if seems to break
those "failing" spree's.. It also seems to help with skill gain,
despite what DD says.. Twice DD said potions stack, do they?

- Xigam

JKoster436

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Mar 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/12/99
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It did awhile ago affect it, but they took it out for somereason. I guess they
foprgot about smithign nothing is effected outher then that.

Ryan McGinnis

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Mar 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/12/99
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On Thu, 11 Mar 1999 22:33:16 GMT, nomailhere@xigam@yahoo.com (Xigam)
wrote:

>On Wed, 10 Mar 1999 21:32:15 -0800, Lord Sargas Minot
><sar...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>
>I have to say.. Eating does help my cast magery.. if seems to break
>those "failing" spree's.. It also seems to help with skill gain,
>despite what DD says.. Twice DD said potions stack, do they?

Perhaps things have changed, but they always stacked for *me*...

-Ryan

Cirander

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Mar 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/12/99
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icelady wrote:

> Food has NEVER had any affect on any thing except healing
> and stamina regeneration.

It currently doesn't have an affect on stamina regeneration (they broke
this some time ago), only on HP regeneration. And well, how about you
just experiment with food? :) Just an example - just yesterday I spent
two hours fishing with an empty stomach: skill went from 89.0 to 89.4
(+0.4). Then I ate and made sure my character was well fed for the next
two hours ... I fished again, exactly the same time with about the same
success rate, but my skill went from 89.4 to 90.2 (+0.8). This is 100%
more skill gain in the same period of time at an even higher skill
level. Coincidence? I doubt it. It pretty much confirms what others,
especially blacksmiths, mages and alchemists, but also warriors, have
observed. No, there is no proof for this theory, but - it does make me
wonder. I had similar results with my scribe (I never tried this with
skills below 85, though).

> Raph has only stated that here in the news group about 50
> times in the last year and a half.

As much as I value Raph, but he has said many things in the past 18
months, and had to correct his own statements when it became obvious
that he was simply wrong. Again, I'm not saying he is wrong about food,
but my own observations, and the ones of many other players, just don't
match the "eating doesn't affect skill gain, success rate, amount of
taken and dealt damage" statement. No matter how often other players
repeat it prayer-wheel-like.

- Cirander

Xigam

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Mar 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/12/99
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>>Raph, eating keeps coming up. Will you PLEASE give us
>> the FACTS.
>
>It does NOT NOT NOT affect skill gain. That is a hard fact.
>
>
>-Raph Koster
>Lead Designer, Ultima Online

YES IT DOES I SWEAR IT! It seems to affect MANY things.. success
rate/skill gain/ damage dealt, damage taken.. I SWEAR IT.. and not
just because I'm a fishsteak vendor.

- Xigam

Cirander

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Mar 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/12/99
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Xigam wrote:

> YES IT DOES I SWEAR IT! It seems to affect MANY things.. success
> rate/skill gain/ damage dealt, damage taken.. I SWEAR IT.. and not
> just because I'm a fishsteak vendor.

I agree. Yep, I sell fish steaks too (or rather, have a ton raw ones in
my house and am just too lazy to cook them all :), but this *is* why I
tested the effect of food on skill gain, etc. Well, everyone who has
doubts can just try it. Food is really cheap and with 100 gp one can get
enough steaks, bread, ham or whatever for some tests.

- Michael

Cirander

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Mar 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/12/99
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icelady wrote:

> Its NOT the food, its doing the same thing over and
> over that is the problem. :P

No. I tried mixing potions, using kindlings, and running around the
house instead of eating (while fishing and scribing). Nothing had the
same effect.

> <Any> other activity will do the same thing. :P

Done that - didn't work. :)

I *wouldn't* post here and say, "hey, eating had a positive impact on my
skill gain" if I hadn't tested various things. Well, it works for me.
I'm not saying it works for everyone and I can't explain why, but it
does (which, in the end, is the only thing that matters). Placebo? ;)

- Cirander

Jude M. Greer

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Mar 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/12/99
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But does it affect skill success? If it does, which I am
ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY sure that it does, then it does not
DIRECTLY affect skill gain, but it does INDIRECTLT affect
it. This I am sure of. I have WAY too much emperical
evidence of this being the case, that NO MATTER what Raph
says, I will believe that eating affects skill success,
until I see for myself that it no longer appears to affect
it.

Jude M. Greer
moj...@earthlink.net

icelady wrote in message <36e99ace...@news.mindspring.com>...


>On Wed, 10 Mar 1999 14:28:59 -0800, Renjit Tom Thomas
><ltho...@u.washington.edu> wrote:
>
>>I have recently started a smith character, and I went to smith some
>>ingots last night and I hear someone eating. I inquire why he is eating,
>>and I am informed that it helps the success of smithing items. I tried
>>this and immediately started succeeding almost everytime, whereas before
>>I had been failing 50% of the time on the chain coifs. I now wonder if
>>this is skill specific or if all skills are affected by food. Any other
>>skills people know are affected by eating please let me and the rest of
>>the newsgroup know. I am sure this would be helpful.
>>
>>
>>Woodsman Bob
>>Baja

>Subject: Fact about eating in UO
>From: ice...@mindspring.com (icelady)
>Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 22:42:41 GMT


>
>>Raph, eating keeps coming up. Will you PLEASE give us
>> the FACTS.
>
>It does NOT NOT NOT affect skill gain. That is a hard fact.
>
>
>-Raph Koster
>Lead Designer, Ultima Online

>--
>IceLady
>--
>Post in haste, repent at your leisure.

Jadesfyre

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Mar 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/15/99
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Food ideas....

I think that when you get to the extremely hungry phase, your hit points
should start decreasing, making eating food very important. (Can you
imagine if the macroers forget to add eating food to their macros and find
themselves dead from starvation?)
GM chefs should make food so good that one bite will replenish you. Fill
you up full.
Food you buy from fellow players should be of better quality than NPCs so
that you will want to buy from another player.
Perhaps food should affect the successes of certain skills, or the frequency
of making exceptional items.

The cooking skill needs to be improved upon, IMHO.
(Spawning of fields and trees should be added or increased, along with
perhaps adding a gathering skill..the higher your *gathering* skill, the
more apples you get from the tree, for example)

Jadesfyre
Who will be a cook someday when her sis decides to play with her :)
Yay! My sis now has a pc and UO! She just needs more memory.

Eldor

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Mar 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/15/99
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Jadesfyre wrote in message ...

>Food ideas....
>
>I think that when you get to the extremely hungry phase, your hit points
>should start decreasing, making eating food very important. (Can you
>imagine if the macroers forget to add eating food to their macros and find
>themselves dead from starvation?)
<SNIP>

Nah, this would be way to close to Ultima. We all know that Ultima Online
has nothing to do with Ultima, except the name and map.

--
Eldor, Guardian of the Path
Guardians of Virtue, Napa Valley Shard
http://webalias.com/guardians of virtue


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