A third party program?
Jadesfyre
We did get the keys to the tower but with chests blocking the way, we
couldn't get at the good stuff.
I noticed an invulnerable wandering healer behind three orange chests and a
table. I asked in the chat channel if this was allowed. Someone told me
that it wasn't. So I stayed behind and called a GM. About fifteen minutes
later, the healer was removed.
I go to the door and do a little bow. One of the residents comes out and
asks *what do you want?* I said, "I see that your healer is gone now
*grins*". He's angered and attacks me, I let him kill me. No choice really
since it was a new character. He gets a murder count. :)
I decide to go back as another character in ghost form. A character that
isn't banned from the tower, just to listen in. Just to see what they say
when they think noone is around.
I ghost inside and automatically get greeted with *I ban thee*(another
person used other wording, but I dont feel like searching the web page right
now) and I am ejected from the house. I am not in war mode. I make doubley
sure and enter the house again. I can enter because the tower is at the 50
person ban limit. Again I'm greeted with the words that eject me. I do
this another time or two and then decide to page a GM.
GM_Bashevis told me that a person can see a ghost by having spirit speak.
With that skill, they could see me to ban me.
So, what I did, was to try this out on Atlantic using my house. I had a
friend come inside as a ghost. I could not see him. I tried spirit speak
and still could not see him.
Could someone explain this to me?
Jadesfyre
Jadesfyre
Jadesfyre
(sorry that you had to see)
Lars Friedrich
>GM_Bashevis told me that a person can see a ghost by having spirit speak.
hu?
never heard of such a thing...
I would try to send a complaint to osi..
okay, okay, was a bad joke..throw a paperball against the next wall..
has the same effect..
(hmm...isn't it weird, that gm's answer what you sent them via the webpage?)
Croaker of Baja
developed Spirit Speak up to 82. I can only see ghosts when they are
speaking or in war mode. It has been strongly recommended to OSI that
healers be allowed to see ghosts with Spirit Speak, but this has not been
done yet.
I believe GM_Bashevis is incorrect.
Jadesfyre wrote in message ...
>GM_Bashevis told me that a person can see a ghost by having spirit speak.
David Veal
> I have spent a lot of time as a master healer, as part of which I have
> developed Spirit Speak up to 82. I can only see ghosts when they are
> speaking or in war mode. It has been strongly recommended to OSI that
> healers be allowed to see ghosts with Spirit Speak, but this has not been
> done yet.
So, would that be a benefit or cost of spirit speak?
Either way, I think it would be cool.
--
David Veal lv...@user.icx.net
Croaker of Baja
Often the healer won't know to help the ghost because they are invisible, so
many opportunities are overlooked. If Spirit Speak allowed us to see all
ghosts, then more resurrections could occur.
David Veal wrote in message ...
Richard Cortese
>
<snip>
> I ghost inside and automatically get greeted with *I ban thee*(another
> person used other wording, but I dont feel like searching the web page right
> now) and I am ejected from the house. I am not in war mode. I make doubley
> sure and enter the house again. I can enter because the tower is at the 50
> person ban limit. Again I'm greeted with the words that eject me. I do
> this another time or two and then decide to page a GM.
> With that skill, they could see me to ban me.
> friend come inside as a ghost. I could not see him. I tried spirit speak
> and still could not see him.
> Could someone explain this to me?
Jack Benny
> I ghost inside and automatically get greeted with *I ban thee*(another
> person used other wording, but I dont feel like searching the web page right
> now) and I am ejected from the house. I am not in war mode. I make doubley
> sure and enter the house again.
Same thing happened to me the other night. Methinks foul play is afoot.
Jack
Jeff Gentry
: Same thing happened to me the other night. Methinks foul play is afoot.
It does happen quite often that you think you are invis as a ghost
but you really are manifested. Various things do it - server
boundary crossing, other things ...
LD
Jack Benny
I agree with you, but as in the case of the original poster I was
careful. I brought in my ghost character from the house next door, did
the tab-tab, no longer a ghost thing and walked into the PK house next
to me.
I was banned in 2 seconds.
Jack
Bobbin
the ghost when it attempts to speak (as that automatically drops the spirit
in combat mode).
Jadesfyre wrote in message ...
>Last night Cookie Monster of LS was killed,plus another red friend of his.
>We did get the keys to the tower but with chests blocking the way, we
>couldn't get at the good stuff.
>I noticed an invulnerable wandering healer behind three orange chests and a
>table. I asked in the chat channel if this was allowed. Someone told me
>that it wasn't. So I stayed behind and called a GM. About fifteen minutes
>later, the healer was removed.
>I go to the door and do a little bow. One of the residents comes out and
>asks *what do you want?* I said, "I see that your healer is gone now
>*grins*". He's angered and attacks me, I let him kill me. No choice
really
>since it was a new character. He gets a murder count. :)
>I decide to go back as another character in ghost form. A character that
>isn't banned from the tower, just to listen in. Just to see what they say
>when they think noone is around.
>I ghost inside and automatically get greeted with *I ban thee*(another
>person used other wording, but I dont feel like searching the web page
right
>now) and I am ejected from the house. I am not in war mode. I make
doubley
Richard Cortese
>
> Spirit speak only let's you understand what a ghost is saying. You can see
> the ghost when it attempts to speak (as that automatically drops the spirit
> in combat mode).
>
of hiding "An Ex Por" so I ran. He hit me with it even though I was at a
dead run. While he was casting Flame Strike I typed, "Jerk UOE Last
Target to kill a newbie". Well, I was in a hurry to type something
before he got the spell off. He does the normal, "let me rez you ghost",
then kills me again.
So as I ghost I wander aound a bit. Sure enough, non manifested when I
walk onto the screen where he is, he turns his chr to face my & says "hi
ghost".
There's a cheat or exploit out to let jerks like this see ghosts. We
just don't know what it is yet.
Abraham Lincoln
<rico...@netmagic.net> wrote:
>[snip]
>So as I ghost I wander aound a bit. Sure enough, non manifested when I
>walk onto the screen where he is, he turns his chr to face my & says "hi
>ghost".
>
>There's a cheat or exploit out to let jerks like this see ghosts. We
>just don't know what it is yet.
Hmm, had you crossed a server boundary recently by any chance? I have
noticed after crossing a boundary that sometimes people can see you.
If you go into war, back to peace then you're invisible again.
I'm not ruling out any exploits, but this could be a possible
explanation
Abraham Lincoln
Grandmaster Mage, Test Center
Richard Cortese
was from the area around the inn, to the mage stone on the beach.
It isn't of huge consequences. I mean they can't kill you a 2nd time
once you are dead. Only thing it does do is unbalance the game a bit.
That is, they can spy on non cheaters as ghost, but no one can spy on
the cheaters.
Then too, I wonder if they can detect GMs or Counselors. I suspect not,
but then the ability to cheat like an SOB, then stop when you detected a
GM was in the area watching you would be cause for alarm.
Even that is not a very big deal, virtually all of the cheats I have
come in contact with have rescheduled their entire waking hours around
non GM time<grin>.
Dundee
>Then too, I wonder if they can detect GMs or Counselors.
Counselors can't go invis'.
***
-Dundee
Richard Cortese
>
> On Wed, 17 Feb 1999 09:55:30 -0800, Richard Cortese
> <rico...@netmagic.net> wrote:
>
> >So as I ghost I wander aound a bit. Sure enough, non manifested when I
> >walk onto the screen where he is, he turns his chr to face my & says "hi
> >ghost".
> >
> >There's a cheat or exploit out to let jerks like this see ghosts. We
> >just don't know what it is yet.
>
> along. This was how they used to find Hidden characters with UOE back
> before OSI fixed this. GMs can use this to locate lost objects in the
> artwork for you.
>
> If, when they fixed the code for Hiders they didn't fix it for ghosts
> at the same time, it's *possible* that they've hacked the client again
> to look for the ghost-code. Then all they have to do is run that as
> part of UOP or whatever in background to reveal ghosts.
>
> Raph, OSI, anyone with insider information care to comment?
Thanks for the theory. As many cheaters as I run into, I have only
turned in one that I can remember & he was using a combination of
exploit with a 3rd party program. So far, I have not even turned in
people for things like stealing through walls.
*BUT* I kind of knew that ass that para/FS'd my newbie chr at the newbie
spawn point was using a cheat program. Of course the didn't hesistate to
lie about it.
Keep the Abyss up, gives the PvP people somewhere to go & they don't
seem to mind the morally handicapped as much as the rest of the
population.