GM's refuse to give help.
Daemon
names sot hey can take action and ban them. So far we only get responses
to go to a FAQ that supplies no help at all! Anyone have ideas on how we
can get a GM to sit down and talk. This is a real issue!
Daemon
was hacked. They say submit the names of the hackers to the webpage and
thanks. New Fawn may come crashing down due to this! The only way to get
ANY attention is to talk to some counselors, then SLOWLY work our way
up, which is what we we were doing at first with the CITY! If they want
more things like roleplaying cities why don't they do anything to help?
bizbee wrote:
>
> You don't want an in-game GM... as far as they know, you're lying
> through your teeth like so many little dickweeds that inhabit the
> shards sucking up GM time... you need to get someone who actually has
> some authority, and I suggest you get the person whose account it was
> involved, because shes the only person that has any real say-so.
> Also, I'd say, get ready to get the run around... virtually any time
> you create work (particularly of this magnitude) for someone, they'll
> do everything they can to either make it <your> fault, or pass the
> buck to some other department. Persevere.
Sean
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Daemon wrote in message <36BF4FE5...@hotmail.com>...
>We have 20 witnesses paging the GM's including the person whose
account
>was hacked. They say submit the names of the hackers to the webpage
and
>thanks. New Fawn may come crashing down due to this! The only way to
get
>ANY attention is to talk to some counselors, then SLOWLY work our way
>up, which is what we we were doing at first with the CITY! If they
want
>more things like roleplaying cities why don't they do anything to
help?
>
Do you have physical proof or some sort of credible log that these
people "hacked" your friend's account?
And, by the way; paging the GMs like you are doing only serves to
worsen the service they already provide. If I was the GM on staff, I
would ignore every single one of your queries.
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jx...@po.cwru.edu
The concern is apparently regaining the tower, in which case the best
thing to do is find out who the hacker is. Pressing charges won't get
the tower back, but the threat of pressing charges should do. Solaria
says she got hit by netbus sent over icq(sender's icq # is 5578357), she
has a last used IP address(205.152.131.227) and a couple e-mail
addresses(one is hotmail, dead end, the other is thre...@petronet.net),
see if those get anywhere.
-Smedley, Summoner of Daemons
Daemon
us any help at first. The proof? It is held by OSI in their logs which
we do not have acces to. It looks like the only way they will give them
out though is if the fbi personally went over there with a warrant.
Strife
>The concern is apparently regaining the tower, in which case the best
>thing to do is find out who the hacker is. Pressing charges won't get
>the tower back, but the threat of pressing charges should do. Solaria
>says she got hit by netbus sent over icq(sender's icq # is 5578357), she
>has a last used IP address(205.152.131.227) and a couple e-mail
>addresses(one is hotmail, dead end, the other is thre...@petronet.net),
>see if those get anywhere.
>
>-Smedley, Summoner of Daemons
Well, the icq number pulls up a user called Xtreme with a lot of junk
information. However the user does refer to LD and LDoV.
Strife/Trouble
SBR
jx...@po.cwru.edu
I would've posted the following info before, but I forgot I didn't have
a shell account anymore, had to dig up some utils.
Anyways, the ip address matches ppp227.petronet.net, probably a dial-up
account. The e-mail address matches an account name of Lee Price.
More info to follow....
-Smedley, Summoner of Daemons
jx...@po.cwru.edu
> a shell account anymore, had to dig up some utils.
>
> Anyways, the ip address matches ppp227.petronet.net, probably a dial-up
> account. The e-mail address matches an account name of Lee Price.
>
> More info to follow....
>
> -Smedley, Summoner of Daemons
Oh, incidently, for all I know this account could've been hacked too.
-Smedley, Summoner of Daemons
Strife
Well, it seems that is the ICQ of Xtreme, a member of the Lost
Descendants of Virtue, an LS guild. You might want to talk to them.
Strife/Trouble
SBR
Jack Benny
> The concern is apparently regaining the tower, in which case the best
> thing to do is find out who the hacker is. Pressing charges won't get
> the tower back, but the threat of pressing charges should do. Solaria
> says she got hit by netbus sent over icq(sender's icq # is 5578357), she
> has a last used IP address(205.152.131.227) and a couple e-mail
> addresses(one is hotmail, dead end, the other is thre...@petronet.net),
> see if those get anywhere.
Here ya go.
Account Name: Lee Price
Email address: thre...@petronet.net
[End of finger server message]
Dundee
>The concern is apparently regaining the tower, in which case the best
>thing to do is find out who the hacker is. Pressing charges won't get
>the tower back, but the threat of pressing charges should do. Solaria
Please let us know how it goes.
--
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jx...@po.cwru.edu
>
> > I would've posted the following info before, but I forgot I didn't have
> > a shell account anymore, had to dig up some utils.
> >
> > Anyways, the ip address matches ppp227.petronet.net, probably a dial-up
> > account. The e-mail address matches an account name of Lee Price.
Rio of Sonoma found two by the name of Lee Price in the area serviced by
Petronet, seems related as one is "Jr."
Somebody ask Solaria if she wants to press charges.
-Smedley, Summoner of Daemons
Jack Benny
>
> The concern is apparently regaining the tower, in which case the best
> thing to do is find out who the hacker is. Pressing charges won't get
> the tower back, but the threat of pressing charges should do.
And even if you get it back it's just more evidence of hacking. I'd
still go after their sorry asses through the legal system.
Jack
Richard Cortese
too. 15 year old PK from WI. I have his ICQ number & email, but left it
at that.
Seasons
Matches with email address
LDoV likely refers to the "Lost Decendants of Virtue", guild "LDV"
Xtreme seems to be name of member of above group
Recommended action: Inform Admin of www.petronet.net, to request check of
logs. Recommend backup of email for this user immediately before any user
erasures Forward all information to relevant authorties.
Note: It is possible to hijack ICQ and spoof ip addresses. Thus only the ISP
logs can trace through.
BTW this guy is a cracker. Hackers have a code of ethics. Crackers do not.
In article <36bf6413....@nntp.stanford.edu>,
"Strife" <rode...@leland.stanford.edu> wrote:
> On Mon, 08 Feb 1999 17:09:36 -0500, jx...@po.cwru.edu wrote:
<snip>
> Well, the icq number pulls up a user called Xtreme with a lot of junk
> information. However the user does refer to LD and LDoV.
>
> Strife/Trouble
> SBR
>
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>
> A little worried about a witch hunt, but I think I found INDOMITABLE
> too. 15 year old PK from WI. I have his ICQ number & email, but left it
> at that.
Good point. Guess I was too caught up with all that was going on at the
tower. Damn, there were reps from so many guilds there.....
-Smedley, Summoner of Daemons
jx...@po.cwru.edu
>
> Recommended action: Inform Admin of www.petronet.net, to request check of
> logs. Recommend backup of email for this user immediately before any user
> erasures Forward all information to relevant authorties.
The owner of the compromised account has been so informed.
> Note: It is possible to hijack ICQ and spoof ip addresses. Thus only the ISP
> logs can trace through.
> BTW this guy is a cracker. Hackers have a code of ethics. Crackers do not.
Heh, the "Cracker" term's origin lies in some hackers that didn't want
to be associated with those that hack for destructive or illegal
purposes. Besides, all he did was d/l a trojan horse and follow some
instructions, better term would be "script kiddie" :P
-Smedley, Summoner of Daemons
Dennis Francis Heffernan
|Heh, the "Cracker" term's origin lies in some hackers that didn't want
|to be associated with those that hack for destructive or illegal
|purposes. Besides, all he did was d/l a trojan horse and follow some
|instructions, better term would be "script kiddie" :P
No, I agree with Pournelle -- all these terms like "cracker" and "pirate"
are meant to romanticize a type of person better known by another name:
"criminal".
Dennis F. Heffernan UO: Venture (Catskills) dfra...@email.com
Montclair State U #include <disclaim.h> ICQ:9154048 CompSci/Philosophy
"And I say now these kittens, they do not get trained/As we did in the days
when Victoria reigned." -- T. S. Eliot, "Gus, the Theatre Cat"
jx...@po.cwru.edu
>
> On Tue, 09 Feb 1999 04:16:56 -0500, jx...@po.cwru.edu wrote:
>
> |Heh, the "Cracker" term's origin lies in some hackers that didn't want
> |to be associated with those that hack for destructive or illegal
> |purposes. Besides, all he did was d/l a trojan horse and follow some
> |instructions, better term would be "script kiddie" :P
>
> No, I agree with Pournelle -- all these terms like "cracker" and "pirate"
> are meant to romanticize a type of person better known by another name:
> "criminal".
I'm lost. Whats romantic about those terms?
-Smedley, Summoner of Daemons
Jeffrey C Richman
> Rio of Sonoma found two by the name of Lee Price in the area serviced
> by Petronet, seems related as one is "Jr."
> Somebody ask Solaria if she wants to press charges.
I strongly urge that you contact the suspect before pressing charges.
Maybe their account was hacked, maybe their little brother got on the
account and is the real culprit, maybe they're so sorry that they'll
give everything back plus some, or maybe it isn't even the correct IP
address, but you won't know until you ask.
Always give the other guy the option to fold before showing your hand.
-JCR
-Waiting for my expired account's new reg. code to come in the
mail...
--
When you hire a man to execute the laws of the land,
and that man instead breaks those laws, then scorns
those who *are* trying to perform their duties, you
have an obligation to separate that man from his job.
"To lead is to serve" -Gen. Fred Franks, US Army (Ret.)
Dundee
>So far we are contacting the GM's saying we need them so we can supply
>names sot hey can take action and ban them. So far we only get responses
>to go to a FAQ that supplies no help at all! Anyone have ideas on how we
>can get a GM to sit down and talk. This is a real issue!
GM Grond contacted me today and asked for Solaria's email addy. I
have him Solaria's, yours, a link to the New Fawn web site, a summary
of events, and the ICQ#, email and IP addresses that had been posted
here.