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Quaestor

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Sep 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/7/99
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OK, the Ev is the ultimate weapon, this is clear. If you accept the risk of
going gray from notos, you cast one spell and kill anything in the game. The
most fearsome unbeatable creature is dead in a few seconds (I watched today as
one EV took down one of them dark demons in about 10 seconds).

Is the power of the EV in any way related to the power of the mage that cast
it? I'm especially interested in its resistance. Resistance is how it avoids
being dispelled, and dispelling it is the only way to fight it (unless you
cast one of your own, and then who knows?). What magery does one need to have
a 50% chance of dispelling an EV? Does wearing a hate and using Cunning
increase this chance (beyond helping cast the Dispell)?

EV is the one thing a dragon owner needs to worry about (other than the far
more fearsome Disconnect), so Kai Du needs to know these things.

Trust me, she does.

jx...@po.cwru.edu

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Sep 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/8/99
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Quaestor wrote:
>
> OK, the Ev is the ultimate weapon, this is clear. If you accept the risk of
> going gray from notos, you cast one spell and kill anything in the game. The
> most fearsome unbeatable creature is dead in a few seconds (I watched today as
> one EV took down one of them dark demons in about 10 seconds).

Well, the caster either ran the daemon out of mana, or otherwise used
that "different level" exploit (EV is next to monster, but on a
different level, does damage to monster, but monster can't see to cast
at it) in order to prevent the monster from dispelling the EV. If not,
then these fearsome creatures were actually beaten by poison.
Personally, I wish them spellcasting monsters would cure themselves
every so often....



> Is the power of the EV in any way related to the power of the mage that cast
> it?

Not really. As far as I can tell, the power of the EV (as in how much
damage it'll do), is related to its target's intelligence. Whereas an
EV can kill me (100 str, 100 int, 25 dex) in 3-4 hits, my house-mate
(100 str, 25 int, 100 dex) can just stand there and spar with the EV.
At least, this was true back when poison could be avoided by drinking a
lesser poison beforehand.

> I'm especially interested in its resistance.

Now this is related to the caster's magery, I think.

Resistance is how it avoids
> being dispelled, and dispelling it is the only way to fight it (unless you
> cast one of your own, and then who knows?). What magery does one need to have
> a 50% chance of dispelling an EV?

At master magery, master eval int, I can dispell my own EVs at better
than 80%, IIRC. I don't have any hard numbers to fall on....

> Does wearing a hate and using Cunning
> increase this chance (beyond helping cast the Dispell)?

I don't think so. In fact, wearing a hat and using cunning would raise
your int, and thus let the EV do more damage to you.



> EV is the one thing a dragon owner needs to worry about (other than the far
> more fearsome Disconnect), so Kai Du needs to know these things.

Heh. A dragon should be able to dispel the EV, all you need is to cure
the dragon, I would think.

-Smedley, Daemon Summoner

Adam Burr

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Sep 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/8/99
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Out of curiosity, would an EV ever attack another EV?

Madman Across the Water

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Damocles

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Sep 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/8/99
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On Wed, 08 Sep 1999 16:23:46 GMT, mad...@well.com (Adam Burr) wrote:

>Out of curiosity, would an EV ever attack another EV?
>
>Madman Across the Water

Yes, an EV cast alongside another EV will immediately target it.


Damocles

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Sep 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/8/99
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On Tue, 07 Sep 1999 19:35:58 -0700, Quaestor <Range...@Skara.Brae>
wrote:

<snip>

>
>EV is the one thing a dragon owner needs to worry about (other than the far
>more fearsome Disconnect), so Kai Du needs to know these things.
>

>Trust me, she does.
>

Remember that vortexes can be paralyzed. Paralyze it first, making
sure nothing is auto-defending against it, then dispel it.


Quaestor

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Sep 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/8/99
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Damocles wrote:

Hard to do when they cast it right off the dragon's toenail. Still, I guess
that might be nice.

I really hate the existance of the EV spell, and always have. For those in a
possition to use it, it gives an almost automatic win, and they can sit back and
support that damned thing, or whatever they choose. And it seems only murderers
and a few lone demon-harvesters are in fact the only ones who are in a position
to use it. Why the hell does every advantage have to go to jerks?

Bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch.

Richard Cortese

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Sep 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/9/99
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Quaestor <Range...@Skara.Brae> wrote in message
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I use it all the time. Nothing and I mean nothing like tossing one into a
pile of reds.
Just because you can't use it doesn't mean you can't fake it either.

Just have a macro:

say "Vas Corp Por"

and set it off. You will see everyone else on the sceen either run or do
synchronized dispells.

>
>

Adam Burr

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Sep 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/9/99
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In article <rtfo2k...@corp.supernews.com>,

Richard Cortese <rico...@netmagic.net> wrote:
>I use it all the time. Nothing and I mean nothing like tossing one into a
>pile of reds.

I've only done this once, but I felt SO GOOD afterwards. They had killed a
guldmate, I recalled, grabbed an EV scroll, popped back, and as they ran
towards me I dropped it between them and recalled away.
When I went back, they were nowhere to be seen.

>Just because you can't use it doesn't mean you can't fake it either.
>
>Just have a macro:
>
>say "Vas Corp Por"
>
>and set it off. You will see everyone else on the sceen either run or do
>synchronized dispells.

That's a pretty amusing idea. I'll have to try that.

All that said, I do dislike the spell in general because, while a mage, I
am not a monster harvester. But that really was a lot of fun to freak out
those PKs.

Corwin of Amber (WE/LS/ATL, SBR/rtd)

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Sep 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/9/99
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>Just have a macro:
>
>say "Vas Corp Por"
>
>and set it off. You will see everyone else on the sceen either run or do
>synchronized dispells.

EV used to be great when server lag was really bad. Now a days, it's
more a situational spell. If you can get someone a bit cornered it's
great. And yes it does scare a pile of reds. Daemons are in general a
better weapon, particularly since you can pre-summon 1 or more of
them.

That being said ...

I used to have fun, fake casting "Vas Krop Por"

After a while they would actually notice and stop the synchronized
dispells. Then call me loser for mispelling/faking, etc ...

... and then I would drop the real thing.

Funny as hell.


Richard Cortese

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Sep 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/10/99
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Corwin of Amber (WE/LS/ATL, SBR/rtd) <cor...@wind.atlantic.com> wrote in
message news:37d811e4....@news.mnsinc.com...

> >Just have a macro:
> >
> >say "Vas Corp Por"
> >
> >and set it off. You will see everyone else on the sceen either run or do
> >synchronized dispells.
>
> EV used to be great when server lag was really bad. Now a days, it's
> more a situational spell. If you can get someone a bit cornered it's
> great. And yes it does scare a pile of reds. Daemons are in general a
> better weapon, particularly since you can pre-summon 1 or more of
> them.
Ha! That must be why OSI introduced lag again: They wanted to make EV work
like it used to.<Grin>

Won't work against the prepared of course, trapped pouched or purples, but
try paralyze/EV. I haven't checked it lately since I normally cheapshot
jerks by casting out of hearing range and rush onto the screen to drop it,
but the paralyze should hold just long enough to place the EV.

My tactics change from time to time, but if fast walk is busted I may go
back to more EVs.

I can barely outrun my own EVs if they target me and have LOS, but I have
seen people I know are using UOE outrun them like it was a corpser.


>
> That being said ...
>
> I used to have fun, fake casting "Vas Krop Por"
>
> After a while they would actually notice and stop the synchronized
> dispells. Then call me loser for mispelling/faking, etc ...
>
> ... and then I would drop the real thing.
>
> Funny as hell.

LOL

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