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Yeesh! Tech issue. *kicks Firefox*

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Paulon

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Aug 15, 2009, 4:20:16 AM8/15/09
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I'm not sure if it's something wrong with my ISP or Firefox, but right now
IE is looking better and better.

The initial problem is with my ISP. When there's too much going on, it
often fails a DNS lookup. So when that happens I have to reload the page to
get it to find the site. Not a biggie.

The problem is that since I upgraded Firefox to 3.0.12, (and through an
auto-update to 3.0.13) it seems to be storing the DNS results from my ISP
for periods of up to a minute. So I end up repeatedly trying to reload
while the screen flickers and Firefox tells me that it can't find the site.
Without even trying to contact the server to check again, so far as I can
tell.

Anyone have any ideas whether it's an issue with the browser or just my ISP
being worse than usual?

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Spalls Hurgenson

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Aug 15, 2009, 10:14:29 AM8/15/09
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On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 08:20:16 +0000 (UTC), Paulon <-@-.-> wrote:

>I'm not sure if it's something wrong with my ISP or Firefox, but right now
>IE is looking better and better.
>
>The initial problem is with my ISP. When there's too much going on, it
>often fails a DNS lookup. So when that happens I have to reload the page to
>get it to find the site. Not a biggie.
>
>The problem is that since I upgraded Firefox to 3.0.12, (and through an
>auto-update to 3.0.13) it seems to be storing the DNS results from my ISP
>for periods of up to a minute. So I end up repeatedly trying to reload
>while the screen flickers and Firefox tells me that it can't find the site.
>Without even trying to contact the server to check again, so far as I can
>tell.
>
>Anyone have any ideas whether it's an issue with the browser or just my ISP
>being worse than usual?

Try another DNS server, like 4.2.2.2 (Verizon's DNS) or 208.67.222.222
(OpenDNS). If you are still having the same issues, then you can
probably* rule out your ISP

Or just see if the problem is reproduced in IE (I know, I know... but
its just to test things for a few minutes).

If it is Firefox, try disabling any add-ons one by one.


* but not with 100% certainty, since they may be secretly rerouting
all port 43 traffic to their own servers

Polychromic

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Aug 15, 2009, 6:21:27 PM8/15/09
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On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 08:20:16 +0000 (UTC), Paulon <-@-.-> wrote:

>I'm not sure if it's something wrong with my ISP or Firefox, but right now
>IE is looking better and better.
>
>The initial problem is with my ISP. When there's too much going on, it
>often fails a DNS lookup. So when that happens I have to reload the page to
>get it to find the site. Not a biggie.
>
>The problem is that since I upgraded Firefox to 3.0.12, (and through an
>auto-update to 3.0.13) it seems to be storing the DNS results from my ISP
>for periods of up to a minute. So I end up repeatedly trying to reload
>while the screen flickers and Firefox tells me that it can't find the site.
>Without even trying to contact the server to check again, so far as I can
>tell.
>
>Anyone have any ideas whether it's an issue with the browser or just my ISP
>being worse than usual?

I don't think FF does any DNS caching itself. You might try disabling the
DNS service on your PC. (Control Panel>Admin Tools>Services). That way
your PC will be forced to lookup DNS entries instead of using a cached
entry.

I'd also switch to another DNS server (such as OpenDNS) since that's what
is initially causing the problem.
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claus...@googlemail.com

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Aug 18, 2009, 5:07:00 AM8/18/09
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On 16 Aug., 00:21, Polychromic <mace...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 08:20:16 +0000 (UTC), Paulon <-...@-.-> wrote:
> >I'm not sure if it's something wrong with my ISP or Firefox, but right now
> >IE is looking better and better.
>
> >The initial problem is with my ISP. When there's too much going on, it
> >often fails a DNS lookup. So when that happens I have to reload the page to
> >get it to find the site. Not a biggie.
>
> >The problem is that since I upgraded Firefox to 3.0.12, (and through an
> >auto-update to 3.0.13) it seems to be storing the DNS results from my ISP
> >for periods of up to a minute. So I end up repeatedly trying to reload
> >while the screen flickers and Firefox tells me that it can't find the site.
> >Without even trying to contact the server to check again, so far as I can
> >tell.
>
> >Anyone have any ideas whether it's an issue with the browser or just my ISP
> >being worse than usual?
>
> I don't think FF does any DNS caching itself.  You might try disabling the
> DNS service on your PC.  (Control Panel>Admin Tools>Services).  That way
> your PC will be forced to lookup DNS entries instead of using a cached
> entry.

It appears as if FF 3.x does DNS caching itself:

Try out this addon:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/5914

Alternatively:

- open a browser
- type about:config as address
- press enter
- right click in the listview, choose "new Integer"
- add key: network.dnsCacheExpiration
- value: 0.

I think the addon does exactly that via a button.

Polychromic

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Aug 18, 2009, 7:29:59 PM8/18/09
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Hmmm, that's interesting.

claus...@googlemail.com

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Aug 19, 2009, 3:54:15 AM8/19/09
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On 19 Aug., 01:29, Polychromic <mace...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 02:07:00 -0700 (PDT), "claus.k...@googlemail.com"

I was not sure as to what was Firefox doing, so I figured I should
take a look - it appears there is something there.

Polychromic

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Aug 19, 2009, 8:31:03 AM8/19/09
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Yeah, I shouldn't have assumed FF had no settings for that and actually
checked. (I hate checking the FF forums and faqs. They're a mess.)

claus...@googlemail.com

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Aug 19, 2009, 10:25:32 AM8/19/09
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On 19 Aug., 14:31, Polychromic <mace...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >I was not sure as to what was Firefox doing, so I figured I should
> >take a look - it appears there is something there.
>
> Yeah, I shouldn't have assumed FF had no settings for that and actually
> checked.  (I hate checking the FF forums and faqs.  They're a mess.)

Yes, they are a mess ... some OSS initiatives produce wonderful
software which is however not usable by the non-savy due to lacking
documentation ...

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