I won a stuffed Dinosaur!

[Tina Hall]

Yay, I'm strong, I won a stuffed dinosaur!

(No real spoilers in the following rambling.)

19 days to win the Black Gate, the game said. (Btw, is that game
time or real time?)

Britannia is safe once again!

But I'd rather continue playing instead. New Magincia has so many
empty huts, no one would mind if I cleaned one up and moved in,
right? Close to the Baths too...

Not House of Games, I got nursery walls disappearing already, and I
didn't overdo it! Next time I'll do without thievery and picking up
every stray wand and magic axe, yes I will! Really, I have more
magic armor than can go people in a party. More glass swords than
monsters to kill them with.

And I'm not going to take Jaana again. 4 companions should be
enough. The crates are alternating between 'won't fit' and gaping
emptiness anyway. I was drowned in loot, no need for House of Games
even. (Next time I'll do without joining the Fellowship, haha! Would
be a first.)

Seriously, where should all the shields and fire swords and stuff go
when you only have 5 people to spread out the Demon sword, 2 Scythes
of Death, the Hoe of Destruction, and a Juggernaut Hammer (if Jaana
doesn't throw the hammer away along with her first magic hat). My
stash crates are overflowing. (Shame I can't set up a shop selling
all that stuff.)

And on top of that, I more actively used spells this time, even less
items needed. (And spell use is still improvable.)

Only downside in the whole game: I want a key ring. Next time I'll
try if Exult now works properly. For now, off to Serpent's Isle.
(Too bad the path there is too linear. Which has me wonder what
happens if you destroy the cube first and drag it along before even
talking to Mr Head Bad Guy the first time. ;P )

<end rambling>

Great fun every time again. The other day I realized why. It's like
(re)reading a book I really like. That's (for me at least) more fun
when I know what's happening, rather than rushing through to find
out what will happen during the first time.

Winter Lord Dragon of the -==(UDIC)==-
--
(Dahrahn) "He killed it."
(Chyraen) "How!"
(Shanos) "He's a Spring Priest, how do you think he did it, covering it in
flowers?" -- Seasons & Elements II: Controlling the Magic

[eri...@theymademe.net]

Too bad I haven't played this, because this might be interesting
reading if I actually knew what you were talking about. :-)

Although I will say I never rush through games, especially the first
time.

(So why am I bothering to answer? I dunno - cause there wasn't
anything else to answer.)

Erimess Dragon
-==(UDIC)==-

d++e+NT++Om UK!1!2!3!A!L!
U+uCuFuG+++uLB+uA+ nC+nH+nP+nS++nT-xa8

So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous
applause. ~Padmé Amidala

[Tina Hall]

Erimess <eri...@ml1.net> wrote:
> Tina...@ftn.kruemel.org (Tina Hall) wrote:

Eeek! Top-posting! I'll fix that. ;P

>> Yay, I'm strong, I won a stuffed dinosaur!

[...]

>> <end rambling>
>>
>> Great fun every time again. The other day I realized why. It's
>> like (re)reading a book I really like. That's (for me at least)
>> more fun when I know what's happening, rather than rushing
>> through to find out what will happen during the first time.

> Too bad I haven't played this, because this might be interesting
> reading if I actually knew what you were talking about. :-)

I did my best to keep it so that it contains no real spoilers and is
only understood by people who played it. I know you didn't, after
all.

(The dinosaur thing is actually just a neat tidbit, not plot
connected. You can win one at some fair thing... I wish it would
show up craddled in your arm if you equip it as 'weapon'. ;P )

> Although I will say I never rush through games, especially the
> first time.

I don't remember, actually. I do know that if there's too much
tension in a book, which has me want to find out what's happening
later (and thus cause a rursh), I'll check the last pages (or some
future ones, depending on what I want to find out) to get a solution
and I can read on more enjoyably.

> (So why am I bothering to answer? I dunno - cause there wasn't
> anything else to answer.)

Sorry, Serpent Isle kept me busy. Right now there's a break (even
got me to go outside and buy stuff I need, like laundry soap, or
whatever you call it), because one of my companions is "in the magic
forest west of here" or something, and I got tired of running around
trees looking for the <censored>.

Need to see if there's some info online on where exactly he is.

Also, there's a hilarious Let's Play, in text form with screenshots,
about U7 I and II, that keeps distraccting me. (Steve, the Avatar,
has a somewhat disturbed relationship with her companions and the
world in general.)

For anyone who's played the games:
lparchive.org/Ultima-VII-The-Black-Gate/

Actually starts with Ultima 4, the page above does have a link to
that.

Winter Lord Dragon of the -==(UDIC)==-
--

"If it didn't look truly strange, I'd run off, too. My dear parents would
think I left my manners somewhere out in the wilderness, hanging on a tree."
-- Ranes, Magic Earth I: Getting Caught
Excerpts at: <http://home.htp-tel.de/fkoerper/ath/athintro.htm>

[eri...@theymademe.net]

On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 20:12:00 +0200, Tina...@ftn.kruemel.org (Tina
Hall) wrote:

>Erimess <eri...@ml1.net> wrote:
>> Tina...@ftn.kruemel.org (Tina Hall) wrote:
>
>Eeek! Top-posting! I'll fix that. ;P

Sorry, only did that cause I wasn't really answering anything in
particular. Most of everyone else I know does it and seem to get
annoyed when I don't. But I have also noticed a few various emails
don't seem to let you do otherwise. I never have figured out this
stupid google account we have for work. When I reply to something, I
get a box down at the bottom to answer in, with their message up at
the top. When it's sent, my message top posts. I see no way to even
post between their stuff or bottom post. I see no way to even delete
anything of theirs, or change the subject title. When I do a CC, it
opens a new message box instead of adding it to the one I'm doing.
It's almost more dumb than the webmail Outlook thingy we were using
before, which is pretty bad.

Did I just completely go off on a tangent totally unrelated to this
thread? Naughty me. We can't be having that around here. :-)

>
>>> Yay, I'm strong, I won a stuffed dinosaur!
>[...]
>>> <end rambling>
>>>
>>> Great fun every time again. The other day I realized why. It's
>>> like (re)reading a book I really like. That's (for me at least)
>>> more fun when I know what's happening, rather than rushing
>>> through to find out what will happen during the first time.
>
>> Too bad I haven't played this, because this might be interesting
>> reading if I actually knew what you were talking about. :-)
>
>I did my best to keep it so that it contains no real spoilers and is
>only understood by people who played it. I know you didn't, after
>all.
>
>(The dinosaur thing is actually just a neat tidbit, not plot
>connected. You can win one at some fair thing... I wish it would
>show up craddled in your arm if you equip it as 'weapon'. ;P )

How about a dragon instead? :P

>
>> Although I will say I never rush through games, especially the
>> first time.
>
>I don't remember, actually. I do know that if there's too much
>tension in a book, which has me want to find out what's happening
>later (and thus cause a rursh), I'll check the last pages (or some
>future ones, depending on what I want to find out) to get a solution
>and I can read on more enjoyably.

That would make me bonkers. The only thing I've ever done is glance
down a page a bit further, I think subconsciously before I'm curious
what's coming up. So it's not like I skipped over much.

>
>> (So why am I bothering to answer? I dunno - cause there wasn't
>> anything else to answer.)
>
>Sorry, Serpent Isle kept me busy. Right now there's a break (even
>got me to go outside and buy stuff I need, like laundry soap, or
>whatever you call it), because one of my companions is "in the magic
>forest west of here" or something, and I got tired of running around
>trees looking for the <censored>.

We call it laundry detergent, but soap works just as well.

--

Erimess Dragon
-==(UDIC)==-

d++e+NT++Om UK!1!2!3!A!L!
U+uCuFuG+++uLB+uA+ nC+nH+nP+nS++nT-xa8

So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous

applause. ~Padm� Amidala

[Tina Hall]

Erimess <eri...@ml1.net> wrote:
> Tina...@ftn.kruemel.org (Tina Hall) wrote:
>> Erimess <eri...@ml1.net> wrote:
>>> Tina...@ftn.kruemel.org (Tina Hall) wrote:

>> Eeek! Top-posting! I'll fix that. ;P

> Sorry, only did that cause I wasn't really answering anything in
> particular. Most of everyone else I know does it and seem to get
> annoyed when I don't.

You hang out with the wrong people.

> But I have also noticed a few various emails don't seem to let you
> do otherwise.

You can't just move your cursor to the quotes and below?

> I never have figured out this stupid google account we have for
> work. When I reply to something, I get a box down at the bottom
> to answer in, with their message up at the top. When it's sent,
> my message top posts. I see no way to even post between their
> stuff or bottom post.

Weird.

> Did I just completely go off on a tangent totally unrelated to
> this thread? Naughty me. We can't be having that around here.
> :-)

Haha, never!

>>> Too bad I haven't played this, because this might be
>>> interesting reading if I actually knew what you were talking
>>> about. :-)
>>
>> I did my best to keep it so that it contains no real spoilers
>> and is only understood by people who played it. I know you
>> didn't, after all.
>>
>> (The dinosaur thing is actually just a neat tidbit, not plot
>> connected. You can win one at some fair thing... I wish it would
>> show up craddled in your arm if you equip it as 'weapon'. ;P )

> How about a dragon instead? :P

Hehe.

Could be it's meant to be a dragon, who knows. ;P

>>> Although I will say I never rush through games, especially the
>>> first time.
>>
>> I don't remember, actually. I do know that if there's too much
>> tension in a book, which has me want to find out what's
>> happening later (and thus cause a rursh), I'll check the last
>> pages (or some future ones, depending on what I want to find
>> out) to get a solution and I can read on more enjoyably.

> That would make me bonkers.

Spoiling myself for more reading enjoyment? Or tension?

>>> (So why am I bothering to answer? I dunno - cause there wasn't
>>> anything else to answer.)
>>
>> Sorry, Serpent Isle kept me busy. Right now there's a break
>> (even got me to go outside and buy stuff I need, like laundry
>> soap, or whatever you call it), because one of my companions is
>> "in the magic forest west of here" or something, and I got tired
>> of running around trees looking for the <censored>.

> We call it laundry detergent, but soap works just as well.

Ah.

Anyway, I gave up because I don't like how Serpent Isle continues,
nor the being yanked around by a nose ring along whatever plot
there's supposed to be.

U7 I still remains the only true one. I wish they'd remake the
earlier ones on that engine, and fix U7 II (and whichever came
after).

Oh and, er, I kinda forgot getting new posts again, sigh. Sorry.

Winter Lord Dragon of the -==(UDIC)==-
--

(Lanar to Gorash) "You just found us, anyway. We could take in the silent
one." (turned to Tharoan) "He hasn't yet figured out how to make the kids
himself." - (Kevra) "That's why he's dragged in the Summer Lord. They
know all about that." -- Seasons & Elements II: Controlling the Magic

[eri...@theymademe.net]

On Wed, 29 May 2013 21:10:00 +0200, Tina...@ftn.kruemel.org (Tina

Hall) wrote:

>Erimess <eri...@ml1.net> wrote:
>> Tina...@ftn.kruemel.org (Tina Hall) wrote:
>>> Erimess <eri...@ml1.net> wrote:
>>>> Tina...@ftn.kruemel.org (Tina Hall) wrote:
>
>>> Eeek! Top-posting! I'll fix that. ;P
>
>> Sorry, only did that cause I wasn't really answering anything in
>> particular. Most of everyone else I know does it and seem to get
>> annoyed when I don't.
>
>You hang out with the wrong people.

Perhaps I should rephrase. Most of the people I know online from
forums and usenet don't. But I know a lot of people like from Yahoo
groups and such that flip out over top posting.

>
>> But I have also noticed a few various emails don't seem to let you
>> do otherwise.
>
>You can't just move your cursor to the quotes and below?

See below. :-) And there are other places that won't do the little
>'s so unless they go through and either change stuff to another color
or font or something, they can't tell what is what. I've seen email
clients that are like that too.

>
>> I never have figured out this stupid google account we have for
>> work. When I reply to something, I get a box down at the bottom
>> to answer in, with their message up at the top. When it's sent,
>> my message top posts. I see no way to even post between their
>> stuff or bottom post.
>
>Weird.

That's not the only thing weird about it. I don't know how to do a CC
either. When I try, instead of adding it to my current email, it
opens a new message box with only the CC name on it. The only reason
I'm able to send it to everyone in our department for work is cause
there was a group already in the contact list that just sends to
everyone.

My other work uses the webmail Outlook which is retarded too. I've
never seen an email where, if I go into my address book while I'm
composing an email, it doesn't have any place to just add it to the
email. HUH? I have to just go into my contact list first, and then
tell it I want to send a message. And while it puts a CC in the right
spot, I better know the nickname I have on it so it'll autofill cause
I can't get that from the address book.

How do both my work places manage to find the worst emails? Even
Hotmail is better than this.

>
>> Did I just completely go off on a tangent totally unrelated to
>> this thread? Naughty me. We can't be having that around here.
>> :-)
>
>Haha, never!
>
>>>> Too bad I haven't played this, because this might be
>>>> interesting reading if I actually knew what you were talking
>>>> about. :-)
>>>
>>> I did my best to keep it so that it contains no real spoilers
>>> and is only understood by people who played it. I know you
>>> didn't, after all.
>>>
>>> (The dinosaur thing is actually just a neat tidbit, not plot
>>> connected. You can win one at some fair thing... I wish it would
>>> show up craddled in your arm if you equip it as 'weapon'. ;P )
>
>> How about a dragon instead? :P
>
>Hehe.
>
>Could be it's meant to be a dragon, who knows. ;P

Just pretend.

>
>>>> Although I will say I never rush through games, especially the
>>>> first time.
>>>
>>> I don't remember, actually. I do know that if there's too much
>>> tension in a book, which has me want to find out what's
>>> happening later (and thus cause a rursh), I'll check the last
>>> pages (or some future ones, depending on what I want to find
>>> out) to get a solution and I can read on more enjoyably.
>
>> That would make me bonkers.
>
>Spoiling myself for more reading enjoyment? Or tension?

Well, I don't know what it does or doesn't do for yourself ;-), but as
to me, it just spoils things for me.

>
>>>> (So why am I bothering to answer? I dunno - cause there wasn't
>>>> anything else to answer.)
>>>
>>> Sorry, Serpent Isle kept me busy. Right now there's a break
>>> (even got me to go outside and buy stuff I need, like laundry
>>> soap, or whatever you call it), because one of my companions is
>>> "in the magic forest west of here" or something, and I got tired
>>> of running around trees looking for the <censored>.
>
>> We call it laundry detergent, but soap works just as well.
>
>Ah.
>
>Anyway, I gave up because I don't like how Serpent Isle continues,
>nor the being yanked around by a nose ring along whatever plot
>there's supposed to be.
>
>U7 I still remains the only true one. I wish they'd remake the
>earlier ones on that engine, and fix U7 II (and whichever came
>after).
>

I thought Serpent Isle was the first oen? No?

--

Erimess Dragon
-==(UDIC)==-

d++e+NT++Om UK!1!2!3!A!L!
U+uCuFuG+++uLB+uA+ nC+nH+nP+nS++nT-xa8

So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous

applause. ~Padmé Amidala

[Tina Hall]

Erimess <eri...@ml1.net> wrote:
> Tina...@ftn.kruemel.org (Tina Hall) wrote:
>> Erimess <eri...@ml1.net> wrote:
>>> Tina...@ftn.kruemel.org (Tina Hall) wrote:

>>>> Eeek! Top-posting! I'll fix that. ;P
>>
>>> Sorry, only did that cause I wasn't really answering anything
>>> in particular. Most of everyone else I know does it and seem
>>> to get annoyed when I don't.
>>
>> You hang out with the wrong people.

> Perhaps I should rephrase. Most of the people I know online from
> forums and usenet don't. But I know a lot of people like from
> Yahoo groups and such that flip out over top posting.

They're the wrong people. They must be taught the True Way, the poor
ignorant heathens.

> My other work uses the webmail Outlook which is retarded too.
> I've never seen an email where, if I go into my address book
> while I'm composing an email, it doesn't have any place to just
> add it to the email. HUH? I have to just go into my contact
> list first, and then tell it I want to send a message. And while
> it puts a CC in the right spot, I better know the nickname I have
> on it so it'll autofill cause I can't get that from the address
> book.

[shaking head in hope to soon forget such nightmare]

> How do both my work places manage to find the worst emails? Even
> Hotmail is better than this.

Lol. Can you ask your boss?

>>>> (The dinosaur thing is actually just a neat tidbit, not plot
>>>> connected. You can win one at some fair thing... I wish it
>>>> would show up craddled in your arm if you equip it as
>>>> 'weapon'. ;P )
>>
>>> How about a dragon instead? :P
>>
>> Hehe.
>>
>> Could be it's meant to be a dragon, who knows. ;P

> Just pretend.

Ok. :)

Would actually make more sense in the context. Well, apart from the
dinosaur bones in remote locations. Hm.

>>>>> Although I will say I never rush through games, especially
>>>>> the first time.
>>>>
>>>> I don't remember, actually. I do know that if there's too much
>>>> tension in a book, which has me want to find out what's
>>>> happening later (and thus cause a rursh), I'll check the last
>>>> pages (or some future ones, depending on what I want to find
>>>> out) to get a solution and I can read on more enjoyably.
>>
>>> That would make me bonkers.
>>
>> Spoiling myself for more reading enjoyment? Or tension?

> Well, I don't know what it does or doesn't do for yourself ;-),
> but as to me, it just spoils things for me.

I still don't know what you mean by 'it', spoiling, or tension?

Tension does ruin things for me. 'Spoiling' enhances my enjoyment.

>> Anyway, I gave up because I don't like how Serpent Isle
>> continues, nor the being yanked around by a nose ring along
>> whatever plot there's supposed to be.
>>
>> U7 I still remains the only true one. I wish they'd remake the
>> earlier ones on that engine, and fix U7 II (and whichever came
>> after).
>>

> I thought Serpent Isle was the first oen? No?

No, The Black Gate is the first U7 (and Forge of Virtue is U7Ib, an
addon that only runs if you have the main game).

U7 II is The Serpent Isle (and Silver Seed is U7IIb, an addon...).

With the earlier ones I meant all Ultimas that came before U7. I
simply grew too comfortable with mouse use to want to type in words,
or guess which words to type, or make notes which are
highlighted,...

Winter Lord Dragon of the -==(UDIC)==-
--

"I am ever amazed by the food (served) swimming in water."
"You'd be amazed by rain falling from the sky."
"Why, only when there are no clouds." -- Karja & Sil, Magic Earth 7/6
Excerpts at: <http://home.htp-tel.de/fkoerper/ath/athintro.htm>

[eri...@theymademe.net]

On Tue, 04 Jun 2013 17:04:00 +0200, Tina...@ftn.kruemel.org (Tina

Hall) wrote:

>Erimess <eri...@ml1.net> wrote:
>> Tina...@ftn.kruemel.org (Tina Hall) wrote:
>>> Erimess <eri...@ml1.net> wrote:
>>>> Tina...@ftn.kruemel.org (Tina Hall) wrote:
>
>>>>> Eeek! Top-posting! I'll fix that. ;P
>>>
>>>> Sorry, only did that cause I wasn't really answering anything
>>>> in particular. Most of everyone else I know does it and seem
>>>> to get annoyed when I don't.
>>>
>>> You hang out with the wrong people.
>
>> Perhaps I should rephrase. Most of the people I know online from
>> forums and usenet don't. But I know a lot of people like from
>> Yahoo groups and such that flip out over top posting.
>
>They're the wrong people. They must be taught the True Way, the poor
>ignorant heathens.

They merely admit ignorance and move on. These are sometimes people
who are lucky they can turn on their computer. Problem is, some of
those groups are about topics that all sorts of various people would
be interested in... meaning I may have nothing else in common with
them. (Like cats or cooking. Cooking is worse, cause it's mostly a
bunch of maniac women who play games - not the good kind - and bitch
about men - I had to stop hanging around them.))

>
>> My other work uses the webmail Outlook which is retarded too.
>> I've never seen an email where, if I go into my address book
>> while I'm composing an email, it doesn't have any place to just
>> add it to the email. HUH? I have to just go into my contact
>> list first, and then tell it I want to send a message. And while
>> it puts a CC in the right spot, I better know the nickname I have
>> on it so it'll autofill cause I can't get that from the address
>> book.
>
>[shaking head in hope to soon forget such nightmare]
>
>> How do both my work places manage to find the worst emails? Even
>> Hotmail is better than this.
>
>Lol. Can you ask your boss?

These are not small companies where the boss had any say about it or
would have any clue. In fact, the one company my boss is over about
40 or so people, inside a company, which is owned by another company,
which is then owned by a big huge global conglomerate company. I
don't think my boss over 40 people has a clue why the big huge global
conglomerate makes these decisions. It's also one of the things I
hate about a place like that. For that job, I work at home on my own
computer, but sometimes get forced to do things the way all the people
in the offices on the company computers do it. Before that place
bought us out, we had email accounts with the company domain, but that
went through some system that would automatically forward everything
to our personal accounts. (But even back then, one of our "system
requirements" was to have/use Outlook Express since our communication
was mostly through email. What morons. I worked at home - how the
heck would they even know if I was using Outlook Express and why was
that necessary to have email? I of course never used it, and it's not
like they knew.)

Fortunately I'm not forced to do *everything* the same way. When we
switched from the Outlook Webmail to gmail, someone at google
convinced a decision-maker that everyone should be using Chrome, so
all office computers automatically had Chrome downloaded and they were
all forced into using it. At least working at home I don't have to
deal with that type of thing. Unfortunately the gmail is in google's
cloud, and it sounds like they might start doing other things in that
cloud besides email. That will not make me happy.

Now my other job still uses the Outlook Webmail, and since it doesn't
support even POP3, there isn't any choice. But I rarely do anything
with my email for that job.

>
>>>>> (The dinosaur thing is actually just a neat tidbit, not plot
>>>>> connected. You can win one at some fair thing... I wish it
>>>>> would show up craddled in your arm if you equip it as
>>>>> 'weapon'. ;P )
>>>
>>>> How about a dragon instead? :P
>>>
>>> Hehe.
>>>
>>> Could be it's meant to be a dragon, who knows. ;P
>
>> Just pretend.
>
>Ok. :)
>
>Would actually make more sense in the context. Well, apart from the
>dinosaur bones in remote locations. Hm.

Now how do you know those bones aren't from a dragon? I've always
questioned how they *know* they've got the dinosaur bones put together
right, but that's another good question - how do they know they don't
have them mixed up with dragons? :-)

>
>>>>>> Although I will say I never rush through games, especially
>>>>>> the first time.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't remember, actually. I do know that if there's too much
>>>>> tension in a book, which has me want to find out what's
>>>>> happening later (and thus cause a rursh), I'll check the last
>>>>> pages (or some future ones, depending on what I want to find
>>>>> out) to get a solution and I can read on more enjoyably.
>>>
>>>> That would make me bonkers.
>>>
>>> Spoiling myself for more reading enjoyment? Or tension?
>
>> Well, I don't know what it does or doesn't do for yourself ;-),
>> but as to me, it just spoils things for me.
>
>I still don't know what you mean by 'it', spoiling, or tension?

Spoiling. And I don't know that you really mean "tension" anyway.
I'm thinking you might be meaning suspense.

>
>Tension does ruin things for me. 'Spoiling' enhances my enjoyment.
>
>>> Anyway, I gave up because I don't like how Serpent Isle
>>> continues, nor the being yanked around by a nose ring along
>>> whatever plot there's supposed to be.
>>>
>>> U7 I still remains the only true one. I wish they'd remake the
>>> earlier ones on that engine, and fix U7 II (and whichever came
>>> after).
>>>
>
>> I thought Serpent Isle was the first oen? No?
>
>No, The Black Gate is the first U7 (and Forge of Virtue is U7Ib, an
>addon that only runs if you have the main game).
>
>U7 II is The Serpent Isle (and Silver Seed is U7IIb, an addon...).
>
>With the earlier ones I meant all Ultimas that came before U7. I
>simply grew too comfortable with mouse use to want to type in words,
>or guess which words to type, or make notes which are
>highlighted,...

I guess that depends on what you mean by having to type. I remember
typing letters for commands, but I don't remember having to "guess
which words" to type, like how a text adventure would be. Unless it
was a riddle or something. Or maybe I got so used to the old games I
played requiring typing sentences out, that whatever typing that
existed in Ultima just didn't seem like anything to me.

--

Erimess Dragon
-==(UDIC)==-

d++e+NT++Om UK!1!2!3!A!L!
U+uCuFuG+++uLB+uA+ nC+nH+nP+nS++nT-xa8

So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous

applause. ~Padm� Amidala

[Tina Hall]

Erimess <eri...@ml1.net> wrote:
> Tina...@ftn.kruemel.org (Tina Hall) wrote:
>> Erimess <eri...@ml1.net> wrote:
>>> Tina...@ftn.kruemel.org (Tina Hall) wrote:

>>> Perhaps I should rephrase. Most of the people I know online
>>> from forums and usenet don't. But I know a lot of people like
>>> from Yahoo groups and such that flip out over top posting.
>>
>> They're the wrong people. They must be taught the True Way, the
>> poor ignorant heathens.

> They merely admit ignorance and move on. These are sometimes
> people who are lucky they can turn on their computer.

Haha.

> Problem is, some of those groups are about topics that all sorts
> of various people would be interested in... meaning I may have
> nothing else in common with them. (Like cats or cooking.
> Cooking is worse, cause it's mostly a bunch of maniac women who
> play games - not the good kind - and bitch about men - I had to
> stop hanging around them.))

<[Guardian voice at Avatar dying] mode> Poor, poor Erimess.

;P

Those women sound like Hell though.

>>> How do both my work places manage to find the worst emails?
>>> Even Hotmail is better than this.
>>
>> Lol. Can you ask your boss?

> These are not small companies where the boss had any say about it
> or would have any clue. In fact, the one company my boss is over
> about 40 or so people, inside a company, which is owned by
> another company, which is then owned by a big huge global
> conglomerate company. I don't think my boss over 40 people has a
> clue why the big huge global conglomerate makes these decisions.

I can imagine.

> It's also one of the things I hate about a place like that. For
> that job, I work at home on my own computer, but sometimes get
> forced to do things the way all the people in the offices on the
> company computers do it. Before that place bought us out, we had
> email accounts with the company domain, but that went through
> some system that would automatically forward everything to our
> personal accounts. (But even back then, one of our "system
> requirements" was to have/use Outlook Express since our
> communication was mostly through email. What morons. I worked
> at home - how the heck would they even know if I was using
> Outlook Express and why was that necessary to have email? I of
> course never used it, and it's not like they knew.)

Haha.

Doesn't email have a software tag in the header though?

> Fortunately I'm not forced to do *everything* the same way. When
> we switched from the Outlook Webmail to gmail, someone at google
> convinced a decision-maker that everyone should be using Chrome,
> so all office computers automatically had Chrome downloaded and
> they were all forced into using it. At least working at home I
> don't have to deal with that type of thing. Unfortunately the
> gmail is in google's cloud, and it sounds like they might start
> doing other things in that cloud besides email. That will not
> make me happy.

They need someone giving them a clue. :)

>>>> Could be it's meant to be a dragon, who knows. ;P
>>
>>> Just pretend.
>>
>> Ok. :)
>>
>> Would actually make more sense in the context. Well, apart from
>> the dinosaur bones in remote locations. Hm.

> Now how do you know those bones aren't from a dragon? I've
> always questioned how they *know* they've got the dinosaur bones
> put together right, but that's another good question - how do
> they know they don't have them mixed up with dragons? :-)

Haha.

The dinosaur bones are bigger than the dragons in the caves...

>>>> Spoiling myself for more reading enjoyment? Or tension?
>>
>>> Well, I don't know what it does or doesn't do for yourself ;-),
>>> but as to me, it just spoils things for me.
>>
>> I still don't know what you mean by 'it', spoiling, or tension?

> Spoiling. And I don't know that you really mean "tension"
> anyway. I'm thinking you might be meaning suspense.

Tension. That comes from arguing, suspense, not knowing what may
come of [whatever official thing that might have bad outcome],
anything that has an open end in things that literally concern me.
(In a book that's good I'm emotionally involved. In real life my
comfort is under threat...)

I'm allergic to that. Can make me feel horrible for days (depending
on the subjective weight of the matter and how easy it is to fix -
in a book I just peek at later passages).

>> With the earlier ones I meant all Ultimas that came before U7. I
>> simply grew too comfortable with mouse use to want to type in
>> words, or guess which words to type, or make notes which are
>> highlighted,...

> I guess that depends on what you mean by having to type. I
> remember typing letters for commands, but I don't remember having
> to "guess which words" to type, like how a text adventure would
> be.

U6 has words that you may have highlighted (optional), that you can
type in for more info, in chat with npc.

Looking at the U4 let's play (text version) I saw a lot of typing of
words too, which I'd have to guess without a guide.

> Unless it was a riddle or something. Or maybe I got so used
> to the old games I played requiring typing sentences out, that
> whatever typing that existed in Ultima just didn't seem like
> anything to me.

Hehe.

Winter Lord Dragon of the -==(UDIC)==-
--

"We are Farseers. We know."
"My brother is a Farseer, too. He knows better."
-- One of the council and Senar, Magic Earth II: Without Heart
Excerpts at: <http://home.htp-tel.de/fkoerper/ath/athintro.htm>

[eri...@theymademe.net]

I guess I've been bad and haven't been around for a while. Although
last time I checked in there was nothing here.

But SOMEBODY has to post so I guess it'll be me. And oh look,
something I can even answer.

On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 16:41:00 +0200, Tina...@ftn.kruemel.org (Tina

I don't know. And if it did, I'm quite sure not much of anyone would
know how to look for it. The support people know how to check and see
if your cookies are on, or you have popups blocked, along with a list
of software that could have caused a popup blocker to come on... the
one guy didn't even understand the concept of whitelists and
blacklists. How the heck would people like this know how to read a
header? I'm quite certain the person who made that requirement used
OE and just assumed everyone else did.

I have no idea why, but this reminds me of the lady who haad the same
ISP as me, but she couldn't figure out my email. I wasn't using the
one with the ISP, and the .xxx at the end of the URL was in another
country. She couldn't figure out "how my ISP got in that country."
She didn't even get that you could use a different email. Apparently
she's never heard of hotmail or yahoo - gmail probably didn't exist
then.

>
>> Fortunately I'm not forced to do *everything* the same way. When
>> we switched from the Outlook Webmail to gmail, someone at google
>> convinced a decision-maker that everyone should be using Chrome,
>> so all office computers automatically had Chrome downloaded and
>> they were all forced into using it. At least working at home I
>> don't have to deal with that type of thing. Unfortunately the
>> gmail is in google's cloud, and it sounds like they might start
>> doing other things in that cloud besides email. That will not
>> make me happy.
>
>They need someone giving them a clue. :)

It's not going to come from me. This is coming down from above, from
people who don't even know I exist and don't care. We are, as of now,
getting our files through the google cloud. I'm thrilled. Can you
tell? Supposedly we can download the stuff, so that I can at least
get things on my computer and not have to keep going there, but it
doesn't work and I can't figure it out. Or maybe it doesn't work
right with Firefox. We are also being encouraged to turn the chat on
during our shifts. Yup, just what I want - a google chat. We already
have an IM we use. The funny part is that any time I've been in that
thing while I was working, I've never once seen anyone with the chat
turned on. That's a good sign.

Not knowing how a book comes out definitely doesn't cause me tension.
It would bug me if I did know - that just ruins it all. Yes, it
creates suspense but certainly not tension. But the suspense is part
of the fun. But that's what a good author would do - make me want to
turn the pages and find out.

>
>>> With the earlier ones I meant all Ultimas that came before U7. I
>>> simply grew too comfortable with mouse use to want to type in
>>> words, or guess which words to type, or make notes which are
>>> highlighted,...
>
>> I guess that depends on what you mean by having to type. I
>> remember typing letters for commands, but I don't remember having
>> to "guess which words" to type, like how a text adventure would
>> be.
>
>U6 has words that you may have highlighted (optional), that you can
>type in for more info, in chat with npc.
>
>Looking at the U4 let's play (text version) I saw a lot of typing of
>words too, which I'd have to guess without a guide.

Odd. I seem to recall the early ones requiring a letter for an
action, you know like A for attack or whatever. Someone of them were
logical and I had some memorized, but I seem to recall there was a
whole page, and yes it would be difficult without the list. I would
think the newer the game, the less of that kind of thing there would
be. But my thoughts are not always correct. :-)

>
>> Unless it was a riddle or something. Or maybe I got so used
>> to the old games I played requiring typing sentences out, that
>> whatever typing that existed in Ultima just didn't seem like
>> anything to me.
>
>Hehe.
>
>Winter Lord Dragon of the -==(UDIC)==-

--

Erimess Dragon
-==(UDIC)==-

d++e+NT++Om UK!1!2!3!A!L!
U+uCuFuG+++uLB+uA+ nC+nH+nP+nS++nT-xa8

So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous

applause. ~Padmé Amidala

[Spalls Hurgenson]

On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 22:20:17 -0400, eri...@theymademe.net wrote:

>I guess I've been bad and haven't been around for a while. Although
>last time I checked in there was nothing here.
>
>But SOMEBODY has to post so I guess it'll be me. And oh look,
>something I can even answer.
>

I can post too. I even have an Ultima-related comment:

Ultima Forever, the IOS game, is awful.

Terrible controls, unappealing graphics, full of in-app purchases, bad
writing and characters, little connection to the tone of the originals
despite using the same names and conventions, requires you to be
online all the time, unappealing graphics, and it crashes frequently
to boot.

Even free it wasn't worth it.

9th Dawn, an independent CRPG for IOS and Android, on the other hand
is far closer to the Ultima than anything EA could ever crank out
(although it could use some improvement in the controls too).

It's sad to see Ultima reduced to such a state.

[eri...@theymademe.net]

Just ignore this cause it's a duplicate. The server never sent it to
me so I'm sending it from google just so I can get a copy in my
reader.

I guess I've been bad and haven't been around for a while. Although
last time I checked in there was nothing here.

But SOMEBODY has to post so I guess it'll be me. And oh look,
something I can even answer.

On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 16:41:00 +0200, Tina...@ftn.kruemel.org (Tina

Hall) wrote:

>Erimess <eri...@ml1.net> wrote:
>

- hide quoted text -

>>>> How do both my work places manage to find the worst emails?
>>>> Even Hotmail is better than this.
>>>
>>> Lol. Can you ask your boss?
>
>> These are not small companies where the boss had any say about it
>> or would have any clue. In fact, the one company my boss is over
>> about 40 or so people, inside a company, which is owned by
>> another company, which is then owned by a big huge global
>> conglomerate company. I don't think my boss over 40 people has a
>> clue why the big huge global conglomerate makes these decisions.
>
>I can imagine.
>
>> It's also one of the things I hate about a place like that. For
>> that job, I work at home on my own computer, but sometimes get
>> forced to do things the way all the people in the offices on the
>> company computers do it. Before that place bought us out, we had
>> email accounts with the company domain, but that went through
>> some system that would automatically forward everything to our
>> personal accounts. (But even back then, one of our "system
>> requirements" was to have/use Outlook Express since our
>> communication was mostly through email. What morons. I worked
>> at home - how the heck would they even know if I was using
>> Outlook Express and why was that necessary to have email? I of
>> course never used it, and it's not like they knew.)
>
>Haha.
>
>Doesn't email have a software tag in the header though?

I don't know. And if it did, I'm quite sure not much of anyone would
know how to look for it. The support people know how to check and see
if your cookies are on, or you have popups blocked, along with a list
of software that could have caused a popup blocker to come on... the
one guy didn't even understand the concept of whitelists and
blacklists. How the heck would people like this know how to read a
header? I'm quite certain the person who made that requirement used
OE and just assumed everyone else did.

I have no idea why, but this reminds me of the lady who haad the same
ISP as me, but she couldn't figure out my email. I wasn't using the
one with the ISP, and the .xxx at the end of the URL was in another
country. She couldn't figure out "how my ISP got in that country."
She didn't even get that you could use a different email. Apparently
she's never heard of hotmail or yahoo - gmail probably didn't exist
then.


>

>> Fortunately I'm not forced to do *everything* the same way. When
>> we switched from the Outlook Webmail to gmail, someone at google
>> convinced a decision-maker that everyone should be using Chrome,
>> so all office computers automatically had Chrome downloaded and
>> they were all forced into using it. At least working at home I
>> don't have to deal with that type of thing. Unfortunately the
>> gmail is in google's cloud, and it sounds like they might start
>> doing other things in that cloud besides email. That will not
>> make me happy.
>
>They need someone giving them a clue. :)

It's not going to come from me. This is coming down from above, from
people who don't even know I exist and don't care. We are, as of now,
getting our files through the google cloud. I'm thrilled. Can you
tell? Supposedly we can download the stuff, so that I can at least
get things on my computer and not have to keep going there, but it
doesn't work and I can't figure it out. Or maybe it doesn't work
right with Firefox. We are also being encouraged to turn the chat on
during our shifts. Yup, just what I want - a google chat. We already
have an IM we use. The funny part is that any time I've been in that
thing while I was working, I've never once seen anyone with the chat
turned on. That's a good sign.

- hide quoted text -

Not knowing how a book comes out definitely doesn't cause me tension.
It would bug me if I did know - that just ruins it all. Yes, it
creates suspense but certainly not tension. But the suspense is part
of the fun. But that's what a good author would do - make me want to
turn the pages and find out.

>

>>> With the earlier ones I meant all Ultimas that came before U7. I
>>> simply grew too comfortable with mouse use to want to type in
>>> words, or guess which words to type, or make notes which are
>>> highlighted,...
>
>> I guess that depends on what you mean by having to type. I
>> remember typing letters for commands, but I don't remember having
>> to "guess which words" to type, like how a text adventure would
>> be.
>
>U6 has words that you may have highlighted (optional), that you can
>type in for more info, in chat with npc.
>
>Looking at the U4 let's play (text version) I saw a lot of typing of
>words too, which I'd have to guess without a guide.

Odd. I seem to recall the early ones requiring a letter for an
action, you know like A for attack or whatever. Someone of them were
logical and I had some memorized, but I seem to recall there was a
whole page, and yes it would be difficult without the list. I would
think the newer the game, the less of that kind of thing there would
be. But my thoughts are not always correct. :-)

>

>> Unless it was a riddle or something. Or maybe I got so used
>> to the old games I played requiring typing sentences out, that
>> whatever typing that existed in Ultima just didn't seem like
>> anything to me.
>
>Hehe.
>
>Winter Lord Dragon of the -==(UDIC)==-

--

[eri...@theymademe.net]

Ignore this duplicate too. ;-)


Spalls Hurgenson
Aug 18

On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 22:20:17 -0400, eri...@theymademe.net wrote:

>I guess I've been bad and haven't been around for a while. Although
>last time I checked in there was nothing here.
>
>But SOMEBODY has to post so I guess it'll be me. And oh look,
>something I can even answer.
>

I can post too. I even have an Ultima-related comment:

Ultima Forever, the IOS game, is awful.

Terrible controls, unappealing graphics, full of in-app purchases, bad
writing and characters, little connection to the tone of the originals
despite using the same names and conventions, requires you to be
online all the time, unappealing graphics, and it crashes frequently
to boot.

Even free it wasn't worth it.

9th Dawn, an independent CRPG for IOS and Android, on the other hand
is far closer to the Ultima than anything EA could ever crank out
(although it could use some improvement in the controls too).

It's sad to see Ultima reduced to such a state.

[Tina Hall]

Erimess <eri...@ml1.net> wrote:
> Tina...@ftn.kruemel.org (Tina Hall) wrote:
>> Erimess <eri...@ml1.net> wrote:

Sent again for Erimess.

> I guess I've been bad and haven't been around for a while.
> Although last time I checked in there was nothing here.

[Guilty look]

> But SOMEBODY has to post so I guess it'll be me. And oh look,
> something I can even answer.

Whee!

> I have no idea why, but this reminds me of the lady who haad the
> same ISP as me, but she couldn't figure out my email. I wasn't
> using the one with the ISP, and the .xxx at the end of the URL
> was in another country. She couldn't figure out "how my ISP got
> in that country." She didn't even get that you could use a
> different email. Apparently she's never heard of hotmail or
> yahoo - gmail probably didn't exist then.

Hehe.

Well, I might have been just as clueless a few years ago. I'm rather
ignorant on all that internet stuff still...

>> They need someone giving them a clue. :)

> It's not going to come from me. This is coming down from above,
> from people who don't even know I exist and don't care. We are,
> as of now, getting our files through the google cloud. I'm
> thrilled. Can you tell? Supposedly we can download the stuff,
> so that I can at least get things on my computer and not have to
> keep going there, but it doesn't work and I can't figure it out.
> Or maybe it doesn't work right with Firefox.

I don't even want to imagine the place you work. ;P

> We are also being encouraged to turn the chat on during our
> shifts. Yup, just what I want - a google chat. We already have
> an IM we use. The funny part is that any time I've been in that
> thing while I was working, I've never once seen anyone with the
> chat turned on. That's a good sign.

Lol.

>>> Spoiling. And I don't know that you really mean "tension"
>>> anyway. I'm thinking you might be meaning suspense.
>>
>> Tension. That comes from arguing, suspense, not knowing what may
>> come of [whatever official thing that might have bad outcome],
>> anything that has an open end in things that literally concern
>> me. (In a book that's good I'm emotionally involved. In real
>> life my comfort is under threat...)
>>
>> I'm allergic to that. Can make me feel horrible for days
>> (depending on the subjective weight of the matter and how easy
>> it is to fix - in a book I just peek at later passages).

> Not knowing how a book comes out definitely doesn't cause me
> tension. It would bug me if I did know - that just ruins it all.

It makes it all more enjoyable for me.

> Yes, it creates suspense but certainly not tension. But the
> suspense is part of the fun. But that's what a good author would
> do - make me want to turn the pages and find out.

And miss the good stuff hurrying to find out where it goes? No
thanks. :)

I do like re-reading books a lot more than first reading them.
(Well, by now I only like reading my own books, sigh.)

>> U6 has words that you may have highlighted (optional), that you
>> can type in for more info, in chat with npc.
>>
>> Looking at the U4 let's play (text version) I saw a lot of
>> typing of words too, which I'd have to guess without a guide.

> Odd. I seem to recall the early ones requiring a letter for an
> action, you know like A for attack or whatever. Someone of them
> were logical and I had some memorized, but I seem to recall there
> was a whole page, and yes it would be difficult without the list.
> I would think the newer the game, the less of that kind of thing
> there would be. But my thoughts are not always correct. :-)

Oh, I think attack and stuff still worked that way, but it's
conversations where you have to type in words to get more clues...

U7 has the Name, Job, Bye, and whatever turns up during the
conversation, to click on with your mouse.

Winter Lord Dragon of the -==(UDIC)==-
--

(Sil) "Told you they'd take ages to get to the point."
(Karja) "I merely didn't want you to overuse those fine legs."
(Sil to Senar, throwing up her hands) "If he weren't such a daft bugger
I'd ask you to send him right back to sleep." -- Magic Earth 7/6

[Tina Hall]

Erimess <eri...@ml1.net> wrote:

> eri...@theymademe.net wrote:

> Ignore this duplicate too. ;-)

I'm not sure I got the first version.

> Ultima Forever, the IOS game, is awful.

> Terrible controls, unappealing graphics, full of in-app
> purchases, bad writing and characters, little connection to the
> tone of the originals despite using the same names and
> conventions, requires you to be online all the time, unappealing
> graphics, and it crashes frequently to boot.

> Even free it wasn't worth it.

> 9th Dawn, an independent CRPG for IOS and Android, on the other
> hand is far closer to the Ultima than anything EA could ever
> crank out (although it could use some improvement in the controls
> too).

> It's sad to see Ultima reduced to such a state.

We should write a petition to EA asking them to buy up and try to
continue everything we hate.

My list would include: Windoze. Some political parties. Some TV
shows... (Need more coffee for some decent ideas.)

They have such a knack for creating something that the fans of the
product will hate, we could get rid of all evil in this world that
way! ;P

Winter Lord Dragon of the -==(UDIC)==-
--

(Odulay about the Summer tribe) "They're just unpredictable."
"No, we're not!" Thay picked up a rock, heated it and threw it at
the Fire Lord. [...] Odulay just ducked, too surprised to reply.
Wegyn laughed. "We'll make a Fire Lord out of you, yet." -- S&E III

[Spalls Hurgenson]

On Sat, 23 Nov 2013 02:42:57 -0500, eri...@theymademe.net wrote:

>Ignore this duplicate too. ;-)

Oh no! Duplicate-ignoring buffer exceeded!

I see the duplicate; I looked right into its eyes! It burns, it burns!

[eri...@theymademe.net]

On Sat, 23 Nov 2013 09:51:00 +0100, Tina...@ftn.kruemel.org (Tina

Hall) wrote:

>Erimess <eri...@ml1.net> wrote:
>> Tina...@ftn.kruemel.org (Tina Hall) wrote:
>>> Erimess <eri...@ml1.net> wrote:
>
>Sent again for Erimess.
>
>> I guess I've been bad and haven't been around for a while.
>> Although last time I checked in there was nothing here.
>
>[Guilty look]

Aak, we're all guilty.

>
>> But SOMEBODY has to post so I guess it'll be me. And oh look,
>> something I can even answer.
>
>Whee!
>
>

>>> They need someone giving them a clue. :)
>
>> It's not going to come from me. This is coming down from above,
>> from people who don't even know I exist and don't care. We are,
>> as of now, getting our files through the google cloud. I'm
>> thrilled. Can you tell? Supposedly we can download the stuff,
>> so that I can at least get things on my computer and not have to
>> keep going there, but it doesn't work and I can't figure it out.
>> Or maybe it doesn't work right with Firefox.
>
>I don't even want to imagine the place you work. ;P

They're global, so watch out! :-)

Just one of those situations where it's too big a conglomerate and
they have no clue about anyone working for them. When you're that
big, how could you possibly know what's going on everywhere? But it
should trickle down to smaller levels that have managers that know
what's going on and who can make decisions. But too many decisions
come from too high up. It's probably fairly typical of any place that
big.

And there's also the typical issue of someone being sold on something.
People "get sold" very easily, without having a clue whether it's
really going to work for anyone.

I still haven't gotten the files out of that cloud. I figured out a
way to do it - I may have emailed something to myself. (I can't just
download them.) I did notice my last review actually got emailed to
me rather that uploaded into "my drive." I have to wonder if other
people were having trouble.

>
>> We are also being encouraged to turn the chat on during our
>> shifts. Yup, just what I want - a google chat. We already have
>> an IM we use. The funny part is that any time I've been in that
>> thing while I was working, I've never once seen anyone with the
>> chat turned on. That's a good sign.
>
>Lol.

How long later... and I still never see any of us pions on there.
I'll see the supervisor or support people, but none of the people I
work with. I don't think they care. In fact, I know some people who
weren't happy when we had to get the corporate email and could no
longer have everything forwarded to another account - a lot of "that's
just one more thing to check" comments. So using the chat there is
still just one more place to log in.

>
>>>> Spoiling. And I don't know that you really mean "tension"
>>>> anyway. I'm thinking you might be meaning suspense.
>>>
>>> Tension. That comes from arguing, suspense, not knowing what may
>>> come of [whatever official thing that might have bad outcome],
>>> anything that has an open end in things that literally concern
>>> me. (In a book that's good I'm emotionally involved. In real
>>> life my comfort is under threat...)
>>>
>>> I'm allergic to that. Can make me feel horrible for days
>>> (depending on the subjective weight of the matter and how easy
>>> it is to fix - in a book I just peek at later passages).
>
>> Not knowing how a book comes out definitely doesn't cause me
>> tension. It would bug me if I did know - that just ruins it all.
>
>It makes it all more enjoyable for me.
>
>> Yes, it creates suspense but certainly not tension. But the
>> suspense is part of the fun. But that's what a good author would
>> do - make me want to turn the pages and find out.
>
>And miss the good stuff hurrying to find out where it goes? No
>thanks. :)

The word "hurry" doesn't mix with me reading. I'm the slowest reader
on the face of the earth and wouldn't know how to hurry if I tried. I
simply stay up too late getting there. :-)

>
>I do like re-reading books a lot more than first reading them.
>(Well, by now I only like reading my own books, sigh.)

Meh. Only if it's been a lot of years.

>
>>> U6 has words that you may have highlighted (optional), that you
>>> can type in for more info, in chat with npc.
>>>
>>> Looking at the U4 let's play (text version) I saw a lot of
>>> typing of words too, which I'd have to guess without a guide.
>
>> Odd. I seem to recall the early ones requiring a letter for an
>> action, you know like A for attack or whatever. Someone of them
>> were logical and I had some memorized, but I seem to recall there
>> was a whole page, and yes it would be difficult without the list.
>> I would think the newer the game, the less of that kind of thing
>> there would be. But my thoughts are not always correct. :-)
>
>Oh, I think attack and stuff still worked that way, but it's
>conversations where you have to type in words to get more clues...
>
>U7 has the Name, Job, Bye, and whatever turns up during the
>conversation, to click on with your mouse.

It's OK when you get to click. Not fun when you have to guess. I
hate the old Sierra games where we had to type commands for
everything, and I never knew how to say it. Give bone to dog. Give
dog the bone. Drop bone. Throw bone to dog. Throw dog the bone.
Bark, bark. Just frickin' throw the bone in the garbage disposal...

Er... as to U4 without a guide... that should be available online
somewhere. I might have even put a copy on my 'puter somewhere if I
could find it.

--

Erimess Dragon
-==(UDIC)==-

d++e+NT++Om UK!1!2!3!A!L!
U+uCuFuG+++uLB+uA+ nC+nH+nP+nS++nT-xa8

So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous

applause. ~Padm� Amidala

[Tina Hall]

Erimess <eri...@ml1.net> wrote:
> Tina...@ftn.kruemel.org (Tina Hall) wrote:
>> Erimess <eri...@ml1.net> wrote:

>>> Tina...@ftn.kruemel.org (Tina Hall) wrote:

>> Sent again for Erimess.
>>
>>> I guess I've been bad and haven't been around for a while.
>>> Although last time I checked in there was nothing here.
>>
>> [Guilty look]

> Aak, we're all guilty.

I also am mildly worried that this old computer will soon croak, and
I don't like the alternative route to the same server (from internet
rather than fidonet), with near identical software, but one or two
things it does differently - and I'm very set in my ways).

If you see me writing from nearly the same adress, but with an A_...
in front, that'll be why. (Or I'm just testing.)

>>>> They need someone giving them a clue. :)
>>
>>> It's not going to come from me. This is coming down from
>>> above, from people who don't even know I exist and don't care.
>>> We are, as of now, getting our files through the google cloud.
>>> I'm thrilled. Can you tell? Supposedly we can download the
>>> stuff, so that I can at least get things on my computer and not
>>> have to keep going there, but it doesn't work and I can't
>>> figure it out. Or maybe it doesn't work right with Firefox.
>>
>> I don't even want to imagine the place you work. ;P

> They're global, so watch out! :-)

Heh.

> I still haven't gotten the files out of that cloud. I figured
> out a way to do it - I may have emailed something to myself. (I
> can't just download them.) I did notice my last review actually
> got emailed to me rather that uploaded into "my drive." I have
> to wonder if other people were having trouble.

Good luck! (I'm too old and confused to even understand half. ;P )

>>> We are also being encouraged to turn the chat on during our
>>> shifts. Yup, just what I want - a google chat. We already
>>> have an IM we use. The funny part is that any time I've been
>>> in that thing while I was working, I've never once seen anyone
>>> with the chat turned on. That's a good sign.
>>
>> Lol.

> How long later... and I still never see any of us pions on there.
> I'll see the supervisor or support people, but none of the people
> I work with. I don't think they care. In fact, I know some
> people who weren't happy when we had to get the corporate email
> and could no longer have everything forwarded to another account
> - a lot of "that's just one more thing to check" comments. So
> using the chat there is still just one more place to log in.

That's why I don't like forums, or signing on anywhere for anything.
Just one more thing to check.

I'm happily neglecting facebook and lifejournal, looking in maybe
once every 6 to 12 months. :)

Steam's on when I'm at home and awake though. Also mIRC. But that
are 2 things that give access to many <of the thing it's for>, just
like Usenet. Maybe that's why.

>>> Yes, it creates suspense but certainly not tension. But the
>>> suspense is part of the fun. But that's what a good author
>>> would do - make me want to turn the pages and find out.
>>
>> And miss the good stuff hurrying to find out where it goes? No
>> thanks. :)

> The word "hurry" doesn't mix with me reading. I'm the slowest
> reader on the face of the earth and wouldn't know how to hurry if
> I tried. I simply stay up too late getting there. :-)

Hehe, I'm a slow reader too, but it bugs me when I don't know what
happens next. So rather than trying to hurry and miss things, I read
a bit from the end, or a few pages ahead, so I can keep enjoying it.

For me, a good writer has stuff that I enjoy NOW (at the point I'm
reading), not create awful 'suspense' (which is == tension for me).
;P

Hey, don't you want to beta-read my stories? [insert maniac giggle]

If you do dare step there, check the (somewhat out-dated due to me
re-reading and polishing) excerpts mentioned in the sig. Also has a
kind of blurb for each and other ramblings about the two big
stories.

>> I do like re-reading books a lot more than first reading them.
>> (Well, by now I only like reading my own books, sigh.)

> Meh. Only if it's been a lot of years.

For me, once a year, at least.

Well, the two big ones. And the one that got to the end (and past
it) more often than the one where I am stuck in the 3rd book.

Reading that one again right now even (well, not while reading this
post and replying).

>>> Odd. I seem to recall the early ones requiring a letter for an
>>> action, you know like A for attack or whatever. Someone of
>>> them were logical and I had some memorized, but I seem to
>>> recall there was a whole page, and yes it would be difficult
>>> without the list. I would think the newer the game, the less
>>> of that kind of thing there would be. But my thoughts are not
>>> always correct. :-)
>>
>> Oh, I think attack and stuff still worked that way, but it's
>> conversations where you have to type in words to get more
>> clues...
>>
>> U7 has the Name, Job, Bye, and whatever turns up during the
>> conversation, to click on with your mouse.

> It's OK when you get to click. Not fun when you have to guess.
> I hate the old Sierra games where we had to type commands for
> everything, and I never knew how to say it. Give bone to dog.
> Give dog the bone. Drop bone. Throw bone to dog. Throw dog the
> bone. Bark, bark. Just frickin' throw the bone in the garbage
> disposal...

Haha.

> Er... as to U4 without a guide... that should be available online
> somewhere. I might have even put a copy on my 'puter somewhere
> if I could find it.

I found some entertaining Let's Play in written form. Got distracted
with other stuff before finishing it though, and I'm not up to
playing anything pre-Ultima 7, when I'm used to the comfort of U7.

Also not up to trying new rpg. Maybe if they had the same look,
handling, and freedom as U7.

Can you tell I'm pretty much glued to U7 and not wanting anything
else? ;P

Concerning newer games, it's funny that suddenly stuff that looked
old in the 90s turns up in NEW games. Retro kinda thing, I guess.

Winter Lord Dragon of the -==(UDIC)==-
--

(Thay) "They wanted to visit the Quiet Sea."
(Dersia) "That is something Jeahnira should like, too, if only to yell at
it as well." -- Seasons & Elements II: Controlling the Magic
Excerpts at: <http://home.htp-tel.de/fkoerper/ath/athintro.htm>