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Attentive Dragon

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Ophidian wrote in message
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>Well last night I watched both "Late Night Black and White" and "Oh Canada"
>on Cartoon Network.
>
>The former featured a Betty Boop cartoon titled, "Goin to Grandpa's House"
>and centered around drinking booze, dancing, and showing off her garters.
I
>kinda sat there with my jaw hanging down the entire show, trying to figure
>out WTF this was all about ;-)


I've seen some older Betty Boop cartoons occasionally on PBS, which they run
as a historical service... in one of them, they get captured by natives in
Africa, who are cannibals. When they escape, the natives chase them, and
one of them is singing "I'm gonna git you you sucka you!" or something like
that. They keep cutting to this scene of an African-American jazz band
(live action) who are playing that song. You see the drummer, then it cuts
back the animation, where one of the natives is stirring the pot or
something with sticks, and he looks like the drummer. It was a very racist
cartoon... lots of sterotypes (they were pretty much equating anyone of
African descent with cannibalistic barbarians.) PBS had to run a huge
disclaimer before showing it, to explain that they were showing it as an
education, to SHOW people what sort of attitudes were out there, and which
still prevail to a large extent... even so, I'm sure some people got quite
offended (and rightly so) though I hope they do not blame PBS for showing
it.

Lots of the old Tom and Jerry cartoons have the same thing... often when
Cartoon Network shows those nowadays, they cut out the bits with Jerry or
Tom in "blackface" after an explosion, or falling into a bottle of ink, or
getting dirty or whatever, which were in MANY of their shows. In fact those
cartoons are quite clipped to remove the offensive material, as you can tell
by listening to the background music, which jumps all over the place. But
it is an eye opener to see just how deep those attitudes were at one time...
Racism has been problem for a long time in America.


>The latter, a show featuring Canadian animation, was more interesting. I
>recall one cartoon that I really liked for some reason, allI remembered was
>that it had a woman who shook her eyes. I was hoping it would be on
>tonight--and by sheer luck it was! AMazing. Anyway,it's titled "The Big
>Snit" and is about a weird couple who get mad, then fall in love again just
>as a nuclear explosion kills them. It's a rather sweet little cartoon; I
>liked it for some reason. I am unsure why, actually...
>
>The next was titled "The Man Who Stole Dreams" which was a weird,
>surrealistic cartoon, with lots of line drawings and flashing flourescent
>colors. It reminded me quite a bit of the city of Gorlab in Serpent Isle
>and the man who stole the dreams. It's too hard to explain, you kinda have
>to see it for yourself....In order to punish the man, the people who got
>their dreams back gave him all of their nightmares...Many of them contained
>fairly disturbing imagery, inlcuding witch-burnings, and nazi-esque
>line-drawn imagry of a decaying corpse w/soldiers matching nearby. The
>scenes were not graphic at all (they were multicolored-line drawings!) but
>they were very emotionally charged, IMO. Quite impressive, actually.
Based
>on a book, apparently.
>
>It was interesting in that both these cartoons seemed as if they were
>targeted towards adults. There was a lot of content for the kids, but it
>seems there were a lot of deeper messages intended for the parents/adults
in
>the audience. Is this a common theme in Canadian animation?


The best in Animation is that directed towards thinking adults. Animation
is a great medium because you can do things with pictures which are harder
to do in live action. Special Effects are not as hard... everything is
drawn, so everything is a special effect... there needs not be cheesy
'effects' thrown in afterwards on the live actors (though a lot of the new
stuff seems to have forgotten this.)

We (at least us in America) have somehow gotten it into our heads that
"Animation" means something for young children. It never started off as
kiddie-fare, but somehow it got degraded. Japan treats animation like any
other form of entertainment. There is some for the kids, and different
shows for adults. Watch the excellent films "Princess Mononoke" or
"Nausicca and the valley of the Wind" and tell me animation can never be
anything other than kid's stuff. Even the kids stuff need not be mindless
toy promoting sludge. Watch "My neighbor Totoro" or even "Kiki's Delivery
Service" and tell what they have to do with Happy Meals.

Animation is a vast and exciting medium, and wonderful for portraying
stories with complex themes and ideas, and Americans are finally beginning
to realize this I think...

>-Ophidian, who was "affected" by these cartoons for no real reason he can
>fathom...it's weird....also pretty damn lucky that I saw the exact cartoon
I
>wanted to see just after thinking "Oh, I hope they show that one..." ;-)
In
>fact, I had thought about that cartoon a lot recently, hmmm....
>

Yup, I saw an "Oh Canada" show on Cartoon Network once before... some pretty
out there stuff... very artistic and avant guarde... it's good to see
independant work tho!

A.D.D.

Ophidian

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Well last night I watched both "Late Night Black and White" and "Oh Canada"
on Cartoon Network.

The former featured a Betty Boop cartoon titled, "Goin to Grandpa's House"
and centered around drinking booze, dancing, and showing off her garters. I
kinda sat there with my jaw hanging down the entire show, trying to figure
out WTF this was all about ;-)

The latter, a show featuring Canadian animation, was more interesting. I


recall one cartoon that I really liked for some reason, allI remembered was
that it had a woman who shook her eyes. I was hoping it would be on
tonight--and by sheer luck it was! AMazing. Anyway,it's titled "The Big
Snit" and is about a weird couple who get mad, then fall in love again just
as a nuclear explosion kills them. It's a rather sweet little cartoon; I
liked it for some reason. I am unsure why, actually...

The next was titled "The Man Who Stole Dreams" which was a weird,
surrealistic cartoon, with lots of line drawings and flashing flourescent
colors. It reminded me quite a bit of the city of Gorlab in Serpent Isle
and the man who stole the dreams. It's too hard to explain, you kinda have
to see it for yourself....In order to punish the man, the people who got
their dreams back gave him all of their nightmares...Many of them contained
fairly disturbing imagery, inlcuding witch-burnings, and nazi-esque
line-drawn imagry of a decaying corpse w/soldiers matching nearby. The
scenes were not graphic at all (they were multicolored-line drawings!) but
they were very emotionally charged, IMO. Quite impressive, actually. Based
on a book, apparently.

It was interesting in that both these cartoons seemed as if they were
targeted towards adults. There was a lot of content for the kids, but it
seems there were a lot of deeper messages intended for the parents/adults in
the audience. Is this a common theme in Canadian animation?

-Ophidian, who was "affected" by these cartoons for no real reason he can

Dalboz Dragon

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On Tue, 04 Apr 2000 02:58:09 GMT, "Ophidian" <zacw...@hotmail.com>
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<snip cartoon stuff>

I occassionally watch cartoons, but more the action ones like
Dragonball Z or Batman/Superman. I've been trying to watch Gundam
Wing, but I keep getting lost, probably because I'm always working on
the computer or doing something else while I'm trying to watch it.

In terms of entertainment from the Great White North, I try to watch
Kids in the Hall on a regular basis on Comedy Central. I particularly
love the Police Department sketches with Mark McKinney and Bruce
McCullough. The best one is where they are in the restaurant and spot
some escaped convicts.

"Should we move?"

"Yeah, let's."

At the same time the convicts spot the police, so they decided to
"move" also. So both the police and the convict start nervously and
quickly eating their food. Frantically spreading the cream cheese on
the bagel, quickly cutting the meat, and then arguing over who picks
up the check, before both parties finally get out of there.

I heard that "Braincandy" was pretty bad though.

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ciotog

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Lickity split, Ophidian trick!

>It was interesting in that both these cartoons seemed as if they were
>targeted towards adults. There was a lot of content for the kids, but it
>seems there were a lot of deeper messages intended for the parents/adults in
>the audience. Is this a common theme in Canadian animation?

Many of these were created when an old "movie network" (called First
Choice, IIRC) had animation contests. They showed these between
movies, instead of the trailers they show now. Many of them were
indeed aimed at an adult audience, although some were for kids, and
some for both - you've seen "The Cat Came Back", haven't you?

Part of the reason is also that many of the shorts come from students
in a world-reknowned course in animation at Sheridan College in
Toronto (well, Oakville/Brampton). There's quite a lot of competition
amongst the students to be innovative.

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Ophidian the Steely Loud Hat Pin of Excellence wrote:
> It was interesting in that both these cartoons seemed as if they were
> targeted towards adults. There was a lot of content for the kids, but
it
> seems there were a lot of deeper messages intended for the
parents/adults in
> the audience. Is this a common theme in Canadian animation?

I think it is the kind of thing you see in a National Film Board
cartoon, a government (sponsored?) agency that funds films (often
short), including animation (look for their name and little logo at the
end of the cartoon). Their are a lot of weird little Canadian cartoons
(and occassionaly some weird big ones), due in part no doubt to that
organization. Personally my favorite is the log driver's waltz.

Of course in reality a large number of mass market American cartoons are
really Canadian because Canada does a fair bit of animation production.
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Ophidian wrote:

<snip>


>
> -Ophidian, who was "affected" by these cartoons for no real reason he can
> fathom...it's weird....also pretty damn lucky that I saw the exact cartoon I
> wanted to see just after thinking "Oh, I hope they show that one..." ;-) In
> fact, I had thought about that cartoon a lot recently, hmmm....

Can you think about my winning a million dollars? =)

Z. Bond

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Attentive Dragon <dex...@gate.net> wrote in message
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Yikes. Well, the one I saw was basically rather wimpy. I am not sure what
the point was. They went to Grandpa's house, danced, and fell asleep.
OK....:-P

> Lots of the old Tom and Jerry cartoons have the same thing... often when
> Cartoon Network shows those nowadays, they cut out the bits with Jerry or
> Tom in "blackface" after an explosion, or falling into a bottle of ink, or
> getting dirty or whatever, which were in MANY of their shows.

Hmm. What's racist about this? Did they do something afterwards? I mean,
even live action shows today use the "blackface" after an explosion or
something like that.

Something I thought was interesting in the Three Stooges was the lack of
racially offensive content, and I do not THINK anything has beencensored
from the versions I have on tape. There were few black characters in the
shows, but there were some. One particular one I recall had him acting like
a bufoon, but you can hardly complain about a black guy acting like a bufoon
when you have the trio of white guys being even more stupid ;-) I believe
there were some ethnic stereotypes in the show (namely of foreigners), but
overall they seemed pretty "clean".

> Yup, I saw an "Oh Canada" show on Cartoon Network once before... some
pretty
> out there stuff... very artistic and avant guarde... it's good to see
> independant work tho!

It's decidedly more interesting than just another toy commercial. I am
interested in how culture influences the cartoons (and other entertainment)
of a particular time, though. In a civil rights museum in Alabama, I recall
seeing a display on early 20th century black stereotypes in advertising in
elsewhere; it was actually rather disturbing.

-Ophidian


Z. Bond

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ciotog <ccr...@cgNocable.net> wrote in message
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> Lickity split, Ophidian trick!

>
> >It was interesting in that both these cartoons seemed as if they were
> >targeted towards adults. There was a lot of content for the kids, but it
> >seems there were a lot of deeper messages intended for the parents/adults
in
> >the audience. Is this a common theme in Canadian animation?
>
> Many of these were created when an old "movie network" (called First
> Choice, IIRC) had animation contests. They showed these between
> movies, instead of the trailers they show now. Many of them were
> indeed aimed at an adult audience, although some were for kids, and
> some for both - you've seen "The Cat Came Back", haven't you?

Yes, i found that one quite hilarious and bizarre.

> Part of the reason is also that many of the shorts come from students
> in a world-reknowned course in animation at Sheridan College in
> Toronto (well, Oakville/Brampton). There's quite a lot of competition
> amongst the students to be innovative.


I wonder if it is possible to obtain collections of the shorts that were
entered into these competitions; I'd be interested in watching them.

-Ophidian

Attentive Dragon

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Z. Bond wrote in message ...

>> Lots of the old Tom and Jerry cartoons have the same thing... often when
>> Cartoon Network shows those nowadays, they cut out the bits with Jerry or
>> Tom in "blackface" after an explosion, or falling into a bottle of ink,
or
>> getting dirty or whatever, which were in MANY of their shows.
>

>Hmm. What's racist about this? Did they do something afterwards? I mean,
>even live action shows today use the "blackface" after an explosion or
>something like that.


I haven't seen any live action shows nowadays that do that, at least not in
the US... they'd be taken off the air faster than you could say "PC."
Actually what was supposedly "offensive" was not so much the black ink/soot
or whatever on the face, but that their hair was suddenly done up in these
really TIGHT bows, and they start singing in this stereotyped "black"
vaudville voice. I'm not very familiar with the specifics of the time, or
why it is considered offensive, but I know that it IS considered very
offensive by African-Americans.

>Something I thought was interesting in the Three Stooges was the lack of
>racially offensive content, and I do not THINK anything has beencensored
>from the versions I have on tape. There were few black characters in the
>shows, but there were some. One particular one I recall had him acting
like
>a bufoon, but you can hardly complain about a black guy acting like a
bufoon
>when you have the trio of white guys being even more stupid ;-) I believe
>there were some ethnic stereotypes in the show (namely of foreigners), but
>overall they seemed pretty "clean".


I once saw an old "Our Gang" little rascals cartoon, where in one scene a
woman (maybe their teacher, or an aunt, or mother or something) was driving,
and she kept backfiring, and stalling the car, and nearly crashing, and the
man driving with her was basically agreeing that "Women aren't meant to
drive, since they aren't capable of doing it as well as men." I think I saw
it on AMC (american movie classics cable channel)


>> Yup, I saw an "Oh Canada" show on Cartoon Network once before... some
>pretty
>> out there stuff... very artistic and avant guarde... it's good to see
>> independant work tho!
>

>It's decidedly more interesting than just another toy commercial. I am


Iterestingly enough, Japan is probably WORSE than the US when it comes to
cartoons made specifically to sell toys (Transformers had its origins in
Japan, and just look at Pokeman.) However, unlike US, they ALSO produce
many great artistic works, and somehow keep the two seperate. They don't
lump all animation into the one category, they use it for widely different
purposes. Most manga (comics) are aimed at the 20-40 business man who reads
the weekly comics (a huge book with one week strip of several different
comics, put out every sunday) who reads it on the train to work all week,
and leaves it on his seat in the train when finished with it.

We generally only get either the worst examples of marketing fluff (Pokeman,
which I still think is so damn cute) or the best of the genre (Mononoke,
Nausicca, I'll even lump Ranma in there, don't kill me <g>.) The main
difference I believe is that serious filmmakers aren't afraid to tackle
animation as a medium over there, because it lacks the social "stigma" that
we give it as being "kids only" fare.


>interested in how culture influences the cartoons (and other entertainment)
>of a particular time, though. In a civil rights museum in Alabama, I
recall
>seeing a display on early 20th century black stereotypes in advertising in
>elsewhere; it was actually rather disturbing.
>

nod... the historical aspect is fascinating... you can watch any old Loony
Tunes or Merry Melodies cartoon, and see some sort of pro-war propaganda,
supporting the soldiers in Europe. Even the old Popeye cartoons had World
War II propoganda (the whole reason behind his "spinich" was to remind
people to plant their "victory gardens.") Disney too... Donald Duck was in
the Navy. They reflected their times.

Culture really does influence the shows though... generally everything was
resolved back then with a large mallet or explosion. ;) Watch most standard
children's fare nowadays (though still filled with lots of violence) but
they generally end with a hastily constructed moral and feel good ending, to
keep the parent groups at bay.

A.D.D.

ciotog

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Lickity split, Ophidian trick!

>
>ciotog <ccr...@cgNocable.net> wrote in message
>news:38ea2274...@news.unb.ca...
>> Many of these were created when an old "movie network" (called First
>> Choice, IIRC) had animation contests. They showed these between
>> movies, instead of the trailers they show now. Many of them were
>> indeed aimed at an adult audience, although some were for kids, and
>> some for both - you've seen "The Cat Came Back", haven't you?
>
>Yes, i found that one quite hilarious and bizarre.

That would be in my top ten, if I were to make such a list :) There's
a fairly interesting one, which (I believe) was made on a Cray called
"Si Seulement". It showed a couple of guys lying on a beach, drinking
beer. I'd like to see that one again.

>> Part of the reason is also that many of the shorts come from students
>> in a world-reknowned course in animation at Sheridan College in
>> Toronto (well, Oakville/Brampton). There's quite a lot of competition
>> amongst the students to be innovative.
>
>
>I wonder if it is possible to obtain collections of the shorts that were
>entered into these competitions; I'd be interested in watching them.

Actually many of the "shorts" that were in the contest were
live-action. Just as Saint George's Dragon said, they're supported by
a Government Program, which means there'd be a lot of red tape
involved in getting them. You may be able to order some from some of
the cable channels up here, but then they'd prolly be pretty expensive
as well.

The ones made by the Sheridan students would also be owned by the
College, so they'd be hard to get, but they show them more often here
so if you had access to WTN (Women's Television Network), Showcase,
TeleToon, Vision (I think they show some sometimes...) you could tape
them. I wish I had made a tape of some of them from First Choice, but
I didn't think I'd be too interested in them later. Here's a link to
the Sheridan College web site, in case you'd like to look around
there: http://www.sheridanc.on.ca/

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Singing Dragon

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ciotog, you shouldn't talk with your mouth full...

>Actually many of the "shorts" that were in the contest were
>live-action. Just as Saint George's Dragon said, they're supported by
>a Government Program, which means there'd be a lot of red tape
>involved in getting them. You may be able to order some from some of
>the cable channels up here, but then they'd prolly be pretty expensive
>as well.

I assume that would be the National Film Board - you could check
www.nfb.ca and see what can be found...

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Z. Bond

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Attentive Dragon <dex...@gate.net> wrote in message
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>
> Z. Bond wrote in message ...
>
> >> Lots of the old Tom and Jerry cartoons have the same thing... often
when
> >> Cartoon Network shows those nowadays, they cut out the bits with Jerry
or
> >> Tom in "blackface" after an explosion, or falling into a bottle of ink,
> or
> >> getting dirty or whatever, which were in MANY of their shows.
> >
> >Hmm. What's racist about this? Did they do something afterwards? I
mean,
> >even live action shows today use the "blackface" after an explosion or
> >something like that.
>
>
> I haven't seen any live action shows nowadays that do that, at least not
in
> the US... they'd be taken off the air faster than you could say "PC."
> Actually what was supposedly "offensive" was not so much the black
ink/soot
> or whatever on the face,

That would not seem to be offensive...

> but that their hair was suddenly done up in these
> really TIGHT bows, and they start singing in this stereotyped "black"
> vaudville voice. I'm not very familiar with the specifics of the time, or
> why it is considered offensive, but I know that it IS considered very
> offensive by African-Americans.

OK, now *THAT* might be pretty offensive :-P I've never seen that done
before, any show that uses "blackface" in terms of soot/ink/etc. does so and
stops there, there's no singing or anything.

> I once saw an old "Our Gang" little rascals cartoon, where in one scene a
> woman (maybe their teacher, or an aunt, or mother or something) was
driving,
> and she kept backfiring, and stalling the car, and nearly crashing, and
the
> man driving with her was basically agreeing that "Women aren't meant to
> drive, since they aren't capable of doing it as well as men." I think I
saw
> it on AMC (american movie classics cable channel)

I suppose that is to be expected; women being intended to be housewives is
seen in virtually every TV show on early television.

> We generally only get either the worst examples of marketing fluff
(Pokeman,
> which I still think is so damn cute) or the best of the genre (Mononoke,
> Nausicca, I'll even lump Ranma in there, don't kill me <g>.) The main
> difference I believe is that serious filmmakers aren't afraid to tackle
> animation as a medium over there, because it lacks the social "stigma"
that
> we give it as being "kids only" fare.

I tend not to watch too much Japanese cartoons, mostly because of the oddly
colored hair :-P

> nod... the historical aspect is fascinating... you can watch any old Loony
> Tunes or Merry Melodies cartoon, and see some sort of pro-war propaganda,
> supporting the soldiers in Europe. Even the old Popeye cartoons had World
> War II propoganda (the whole reason behind his "spinich" was to remind
> people to plant their "victory gardens.") Disney too... Donald Duck was
in
> the Navy. They reflected their times.

I saw a Popeye cartoon just recently involving WWII propoganda, and i know
the Three Stooges did a number of shorts mocking Hitler and the Nazis.

> Culture really does influence the shows though... generally everything was
> resolved back then with a large mallet or explosion. ;) Watch most
standard
> children's fare nowadays (though still filled with lots of violence) but
> they generally end with a hastily constructed moral and feel good ending,
to
> keep the parent groups at bay.

Yes, it reminds me of the Power Rangers....Or even worse, Captain Planet.
Uggh. Cartoon Network even makes fun of that show on some of their ads,
LOL....

-Ophidian


Attentive Dragon

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Z. Bond wrote in message

>I tend not to watch too much Japanese cartoons, mostly because of the oddly
>colored hair :-P
>


heheh... yea... what's with that anyway?

>Yes, it reminds me of the Power Rangers....Or even worse, Captain Planet.
>Uggh. Cartoon Network even makes fun of that show on some of their ads,
>LOL....
>

My favorite was one they did making fun of the Budwieser commercials...
someone actually sent me a video file of it too :)

Exterior Shot: Hall of Justice
Superman "So wassup B?"
AquaMan: "Watching the game, havin a bud!"
Superman "True, true..."
Batman "WASSSAAAAAAAP"
Superman: WAAAAAASSAAAAAAP
Aquaman : whos dat?
superman: YO pick up da phone!
Batman: Hello?
Aquaman: WAASAAAAIIIIIIIIIIP
Batman: WAASSSSSAAAAAAAP
superman: SSSAAAAAAP
batman: yo, where's dookie?
aquaman: yo dookie!
wonderwoman: Yo?
Batman: WASSSAAAAp
wonderwoman: (in this really deep man's voice) WUSSSSUUUUUUUP
aqua: SSAAAAAAA...
super: AAAAAAAAAA
batman: AAAAAPPPP <beep> hold on...
<click> hello?
Robin: WASSAAAAAAAPP!!!
batman: AAAAAAAAA
superman: AAAAAAAAA
wonderwoman: AAAAAAAA
auqaman AAAAAAAAIIIIIII
everyone hanging up...
Superman: So wassup B?
Aquaman: Watchin the game, havin a bud!
Superman: True....
blackout, Logo looks like the Budwieser one but says "Superfriends"

Superman: True.

It's just hilarious, cause they're all doing their own thing (Aquaman
holding his test tubes in his underwater city, wonder woman in her invisible
jet) and they just splice it all together... I like the thing they did with
the smurfs too (We're not blue, we're green! ADJUST YOUR TV!!!) not to
mention the "Race Bannon's love affair with Betty Rubble" and the "Parking
Lot" commercial they keep doing...

Paulon

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> Z. Bond wrote in message

> >I tend not to watch too much Japanese cartoons, mostly because of the oddly
> >colored hair :-P

> heheh... yea... what's with that anyway?

Ease if character recognition I think. If every major character has a
unique hair colour then they'll be a lot easier to tell apart by a new
watcher.

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ciotog

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Apr 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/8/00
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Lickity split, jo...@redowl.penguinpowered.com (Singing Dragon) trick!

>ciotog, you shouldn't talk with your mouth full...
>>Actually many of the "shorts" that were in the contest were
>>live-action. Just as Saint George's Dragon said, they're supported by
>>a Government Program, which means there'd be a lot of red tape
>>involved in getting them. You may be able to order some from some of
>>the cable channels up here, but then they'd prolly be pretty expensive
>>as well.
>
>I assume that would be the National Film Board - you could check
>www.nfb.ca and see what can be found...

Hey, thanks! That's great! It never occured to me to check there.
Here's the film I was looking for before, "Si Seulement":

http://www.onf.ca/FMT/E/MSN/18/18353.html

Now I remember what I thought was so good about it before. I have to
go to the CineRobotheque now!

Oh yeah, to Phid, here's where you can see a list of titles that are
available for purchase:

http://www.nfb.ca/E/4/1/2/index.html

They're a lot cheaper than I would have thought.

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Ophidian

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Apr 11, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/11/00
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Attentive Dragon <dex...@gate.net> wrote in message
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> It's just hilarious, cause they're all doing their own thing (Aquaman

> holding his test tubes in his underwater city, wonder woman in her


invisible
> jet) and they just splice it all together... I like the thing they did
with
> the smurfs too (We're not blue, we're green! ADJUST YOUR TV!!!) not to
> mention the "Race Bannon's love affair with Betty Rubble" and the "Parking
> Lot" commercial they keep doing...

One of my favorites....

"The great Papa Smurf...corrupted by his own power....WILL ANY LEADER GO
UNTAINTED!?!?"

-Ophidian, who only saw the Superman "WASSUP" commercial once.

I also enjoyed the Droopy/Shaggy commercial taking off of Pulp Fiction
THen there is the one at the Legion of Doom HQ where Lex Luther is
describing his plans for world domination--
"But you all have powers--Braniac, you are a genius; Solomon Grundy, you are
powerfully strong; Scarecrow, you're....ummm.....made out of straw!..."

:-P I love CN

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