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Tom Klem

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Jul 13, 2005, 5:37:59 AM7/13/05
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Natrol detractors take heart (sic)

<http://www.thisislondon.com/news/articles/PA_NEWA69691121104201A0000?source
=PA%20Feed>

Your European Union Vitamin Force is watching.


--
Tom Klem

"What's that humming?"
---Susan, "What Planet are you from?"

SloanSam

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Jul 15, 2005, 8:07:35 PM7/15/05
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I vote to ban all bulldykes.

Clark Barr

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Jul 16, 2005, 12:47:35 PM7/16/05
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Those who bitch, moan and piss the most about Gays and Lesbians are
those who hide in the deepest part of the closet.

So Sam, tell us, when are you coming out of the closet?

C'mon Sam, once you're out all those bad bad feelings will go away!

Clark

Sam Sloan

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Jul 16, 2005, 7:47:59 PM7/16/05
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On 16 Jul 2005 09:47:35 -0700, "Clark Barr" <clar...@comcast.net>
wrote:

I do not know who you are but you seem to be new here.

The above posting was not by me. You can tell that because the return
address is:
From: "SloanSam" <sl...@journalist.com>

Thaty is not my address. That it the address of a fake poster. He also
posts as StanB and I imagine that the Real StanB is as mad about this
as I am.

I have been out all day. I left very early this morning for my TV
editing class which I take every Saturday. I have just arrived home to
find about 20 fake postings under my name.

I have never used the terms bulldyke or gay in any of my postings
ever, so if you see somebody using those terms you can be sure that it
is not me.

The Real Sam Sloan

Tom Klem

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Jul 17, 2005, 12:11:40 AM7/17/05
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What a riot.

Sam, I have some bad news for you. The fake poster lives in your
neighborhood, or very close.


--
Tom Klem

"The very act of observation, changes the outcome.", said ______ "Imagine
what would happen if we asked a question?"


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Niemand

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Jul 17, 2005, 10:52:42 AM7/17/05
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Tom Klem wrote:
> What a riot.
>
> Sam, I have some bad news for you. The fake poster lives in your
> neighborhood, or very close.

On what do you base that conclusion?

Message has been deleted

Catalan

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Jul 17, 2005, 11:51:54 AM7/17/05
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"Sam Sloan" <sl...@journalist.com> wrote in message
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> Because he's a jackass.
>
> Who am I? Multiple choice for you:
>
> Larry P?
> George M?
> Jason R?
> Ray G?
> Kevin B?
> Richard P?
> Sam S.
> Stan B.
> John F?
> Don S?
> Peter A.S?
>

Paul T


Tom Klem

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Jul 17, 2005, 11:53:23 AM7/17/05
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The latitude and longitude of the Posting NNTPs involved with the real and
the 'fake' Sam Sloan.

Tom Klem
"Elementary ..."

"Niemand" <nie...@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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Niemand

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Jul 17, 2005, 12:09:35 PM7/17/05
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Tom Klem wrote:
> The latitude and longitude of the Posting NNTPs involved with the real and
> the 'fake' Sam Sloan.

Where do you see that information? I know how to see the
NNTP-Posting-Host, but how do you determine the latitude/longitude from
that, and relate that to the physical location of the person sending
the post?

Sam Sloan

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Jul 17, 2005, 1:11:50 PM7/17/05
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I am also very curious to know the answer to this question.

Do you know where I post from? What is that latitude and longitude?

I posted five times from Chicago. Did the latitude and longitude
change when I posted there?

Sam Sloan

Catalan

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Jul 17, 2005, 1:40:12 PM7/17/05
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http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm?GetLocation


"Niemand" <nie...@adelphia.net> wrote in message

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Duncan Oxley

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Jul 17, 2005, 2:04:23 PM7/17/05
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Sam Sloan

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Jul 17, 2005, 2:06:14 PM7/17/05
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On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 13:40:12 -0400, "Catalan" <Cat...@comXXXcast.net>
wrote:

>http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm?GetLocation

OK. This is mildly interesting but does not prove much.

sloan @ journalist.com (one of the fake posters) posts at 4.237.41.136

According to the above website, that is in Flushing, NY.

I post through Verio from 68.237.245.115

According to trhe above website, that is in Brooklyn NY.

How do you conclude that we are the same person?

If it narrows it down, it narrows it down to the about ten million
people who live between or around Brooklyn New York and Flushing New
York.

Sam Sloan

Catalan

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Jul 17, 2005, 2:46:13 PM7/17/05
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"Sam Sloan" <sl...@ishipress.com> wrote in message
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I don't; I think its your good buddy PT.


Sam Sloan

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Jul 17, 2005, 3:39:11 PM7/17/05
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On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 14:46:13 -0400, "Catalan" <Cat...@comXXXcast.net>
wrote:

Possible. I would be very disappointed if that is the case, but I
cannot rule it out.

What we have is somebody who hates Beatriz, dislikes Stan and dislikes
me but dislikes me less than he dislikes Beatriz or Stan.

Knows a lot of Internet tricks.

Possibly lives in Flushing New York.

Probably knew that I was in Chicago for a chess match and would not be
posting then.

I think we might be getting somewhere. There are at least two fake
posters but we might have one of them.

The Historian

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Jul 17, 2005, 4:18:33 PM7/17/05
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Sam Sloan wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 13:40:12 -0400, "Catalan" <Cat...@comXXXcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> >http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm?GetLocation
>
> OK. This is mildly interesting but does not prove much.
>
> sloan @ journalist.com (one of the fake posters) posts at 4.237.41.136
>
> According to the above website, that is in Flushing, NY.

Doesn't a well-known female GM (recently praised in a press release by
an alleged co-worker as one of the three top GMs in the world) run a
chess school near Flushing? Didn't the male half of Trollgar like to
post under assumed names?

Matt Nemmers

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Jul 17, 2005, 7:52:44 PM7/17/05
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All this IP address speculation is worthless. We all know Parr lives
in Malaysia, but if you look up his IP address (207.200.116.132) they
point to Los Angeles, CA.

For once, I agree with Sloan. This is mildly interesting but does not
prove anything.

Regards,

Matt

Matt Nemmers

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Jul 17, 2005, 7:55:30 PM7/17/05
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Ahhh, yes. Internet Grandmaster Goran Tomic's favorite tool...

Regards,

Matt

The Historian

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Jul 17, 2005, 7:56:58 PM7/17/05
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Matt Nemmers wrote:
> The Historian wrote:
> > Sam Sloan wrote:
> > > On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 13:40:12 -0400, "Catalan" <Cat...@comXXXcast.net>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm?GetLocation
> > >
> > > OK. This is mildly interesting but does not prove much.
> > >
> > > sloan @ journalist.com (one of the fake posters) posts at 4.237.41.136
> > >
> > > According to the above website, that is in Flushing, NY.
> >
> > Doesn't a well-known female GM (recently praised in a press release by
> > an alleged co-worker as one of the three top GMs in the world) run a
> > chess school near Flushing? Didn't the male half of Trollgar like to
> > post under assumed names?
>
> All this IP address speculation is worthless. We all know Parr lives
> in Malaysia, but if you look up his IP address (207.200.116.132) they
> point to Los Angeles, CA.

As do "Cynic" and "Jr". All three have the same address. Isn't that
odd?

Sam Sloan

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Jul 17, 2005, 8:05:34 PM7/17/05
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On 17 Jul 2005 08:16:44 -0700, "Sam Sloan" <sl...@journalist.com>
wrote:

>Because he's a jackass.
>
>Who am I? Multiple choice for you:
>
>Larry P?
>George M?
>Jason R?
>Ray G?
>Kevin B?
>Richard P?
>Sam S.
>Stan B.
>John F?
>Don S?
>Peter A.S?
>

Interesting list. To this you have to add Jurgen R. because he has
posted three of four times over my name from Germany, but his posts
are harmless and not maliceous like the others.

Definitely you have to add Tim Hanke to the list. He is known to post
under fake names. He also does not like me.

You have to take my son off this list. He lacks the technical
knowledge to do this. Also, he cannot write or spell.

Another candidate is Jim Eade who is known to post fake and malicious
messages. Eade has been outed as both SlamStoan and "The Old
Professor".

Neil Brennen certainly is a very likely candidate. Also, Tim Just.

I can think of several other possible additions to this list.

The Real Sam Sloan

The Historian

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Jul 17, 2005, 8:17:48 PM7/17/05
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I think it very unlikely I'd write such crude and humorless postings;
they don't even approach, let alone come near, my best work.

Sam Sloan

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Jul 17, 2005, 10:39:29 PM7/17/05
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On 17 Jul 2005 17:17:48 -0700, "The Historian" <Spam...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Sam Sloan wrote:

>> Neil Brennen certainly is a very likely candidate.
>
>I think it very unlikely I'd write such crude and humorless postings;
>they don't even approach, let alone come near, my best work.

I do not believe that you are the fake poster. However, you have been
spoofing me by posting under "Spam Scone" for years. Therefore you
canmnot be excluded as a candidate.

I believe that there are two and possibly three fake posters who use
my name. One, we just caught. I have my opinion as to who the other
two might be.

Sam Sloan

The Historian

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Jul 17, 2005, 10:51:10 PM7/17/05
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Sam Sloan wrote:
> On 17 Jul 2005 17:17:48 -0700, "The Historian" <Spam...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Sam Sloan wrote:
>
> >> Neil Brennen certainly is a very likely candidate.
> >
> >I think it very unlikely I'd write such crude and humorless postings;
> >they don't even approach, let alone come near, my best work.
>
> I do not believe that you are the fake poster.

Then can you explain why you claimed me as a "very likely candidate?"

However, you have been
> spoofing me by posting under "Spam Scone" for years. Therefore you
> canmnot be excluded as a candidate.

I realize that you are insane, but are you so insane that you can't
tell the difference between mocking and a deliberate attempt to
deceive?

> I believe that there are two and possibly three fake posters who use
> my name. One, we just caught.

Who was just caught? Truong?

Catalan

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Jul 17, 2005, 11:13:31 PM7/17/05
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"Matt Nemmers" <qcc...@mchsi.com> wrote in message
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>> "Catalan" wrote
>> > http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm?GetLocation
>> >
>> >
>
> Ahhh, yes. Internet Grandmaster Goran Tomic's favorite tool...

I thought his favorite tool was four inches and blunt at the end.


Tom Klem

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Jul 18, 2005, 12:52:06 AM7/18/05
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I'm not saying that it is you.

However, I think it possible that you wander off to the library and think
you're covering your tracks by posting from there.

Flushing, as I recall, ain't that far from where you live.


--
Tom Klem

"The very act of observation, changes the outcome.", said ______ "Imagine
what would happen if we asked a question?"


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Bruce Leverett

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Jul 19, 2005, 10:01:28 AM7/19/05
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I am replying to a posted message, quoted below. In that message, the
"real" Sam Sloan, s...@ishipress.com, replies to a message posted by
the "fake" Sam Sloan, sl...@journalist.com. The "fake" Sloan wrote,
"Who am I?", and then gave a list of familiar names. Presumably his
real identity is not on the list.

The "fake" Sloan removed his message from the Google archive. So you
can't see the original message if you read this newsgroup via Google.
But if you read this newsgroup via some other NNTP server, such as the
one provided by your ISP, of course you can still see the original
message.

I think there has been at least one other anonymouse who used to remove
his messages from the Google archive.

Message has been deleted

Sam Sloan

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Jul 19, 2005, 10:26:09 AM7/19/05
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On 19 Jul 2005 07:01:28 -0700, "Bruce Leverett"
<blev...@spinnakernet.com> wrote:

>I think there has been at least one other anonymouse who used to remove
>his messages from the Google archive.

Good clue !!!

Thank you.

I believe that it was a fake Beatriz that did that.

Sam Sloan

Catalan

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Jul 19, 2005, 4:17:21 PM7/19/05
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"Sam Sloan" <sl...@ishipress.com> wrote in message
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No you don't.


Sam Sloan

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Jul 30, 2006, 8:36:14 PM7/30/06
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On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 14:46:13 -0400, "Catalan" <Cat...@comXXXcast.net>
wrote:

>

By Jove, you've got it!!! You had it all along. Just, we paid no
attention to you.

Paul Truong is the Fake Sam Sloan. Suddenly, it is obvious.

The Fake Sam Sloan was somebody who did not like Sam Sloan, did not
like Stan Booz and did not like Beatriz Marinello and had an IP
Address that pointed to Flushing, Queens, New York.

It had to be Paul Truong all along. We should have known.

Sam Sloan

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