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BobChess  
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From: bobch...@aol.com (BobChess)
Date: 05 Jul 2003 00:00:18 GMT
Local: Fri, Jul 4 2003 8:00 pm
Subject: Don Schultz the Best
My recent endorsement of Don Schultz as the most outstanding and qualified
candidate for the Executive Board, was attacked and criticized  by a guy named
Richard Peterson.

If I were running for office, I would want Peterson to be against me !!!!. . I
can't think of anyone whose opposition would make a greater a contribution to
any campaign.

We all recall that he was sued by USCF for his twenty five thousand dollar debt
to USCF,  and we cannot forget his SECOND Bankruptcy that defeated the claim.

Look at Don's record of service. Note the people who SUPPORT Don Schultz, and
look at his many contributions to chess and to USCF. Draw your own conclusions.

Please be sure to vote !.

Very best regards,

Bob Smith
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Date: 05 Jul 2003 00:35:59 GMT
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Subject: Re: Don Schultz the Best

Bob wanted Peterson to oppose him.  I did  and he had to resign the USCF
Presidency in disgrace.  One major cause was the number of lies where the proof
was Smith's own signature.

Bob can no longer claim insanity as his defense.  
He knows all that he wrote is a lie.

Bob Smith, an attorney and member of the bar, hid the evidence which confirms
that no such claimed debt ever existed.  
In USCF's name and as USCF President, he signed a settlement agreement which he
had no intention of honoring.  This caused the bankruptcy.
Bear in mind, Smith himself hid the evidence, made a settlement deal which he
signed in my pressence, and then did not live up to the settlement agreement.

In other words, Bob Smith is lying right down the line.
Bob, why didn't you produce the John L White report that you commissioned as
USCF President when it was subpoenaed?

Why can't you answer?
Is it because you are the second biggest liar to ever have held the office of
USCF President?  Isn't that why you had to resign in disgrace after just one
year of office?

Before I forgave you because I believed there was something badly mentally
wrong with you.  It looks as if I was too kind.

Richard Peterson


 
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From: no...@gw.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: 5 Jul 2003 00:23:08 GMT
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Subject: Re: Don Schultz the Best
Bob, as the Secretary you are in charge of the election.  Don't you see
it as inappropriate for you to be endorsing any candidates?
--
Mike Nolan

 
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From: bobch...@aol.com (BobChess)
Date: 05 Jul 2003 01:20:43 GMT
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Subject: Re: Don Schultz the Best
First of all, Peterson's animosity toward me has nothing to do with the
candidacy of Don Schultz. Don's record and achievements stand for themselves.

Peterson owed $25,000 to USCF and  managed to beat it with his SECOND
bankruptcy.

Peterson accuses me of having mental instability. Now let's look at the record.

Peterson may not be mentally changelled,. but we all know from postings on RGCF
and anyone who has reviewed the court records in Phoenix, that Peterson was
unable to recall the name of his third wife. Maybe it was his fourth wife, but
whatever.

Without further comment, I apologize for this digression.  Peterson is
certainly not a candidate in this or any other race. He is certainly not to be
taken seriously.

We need strong leadership. John McCrary and his Board have fulfilled their
promises and now  need strong support for the future..

DON SCHULTZ  IS THE MAN FOR THE JOB.

Very best to all members,

Bob Smith
USCF Secretary
Past President


 
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Date: 05 Jul 2003 01:23:09 GMT
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Subject: Re: Don Schultz the Best
"Bob, as the Secretary you are in charge of the election.  Don't you see
it as inappropriate for you to be endorsing any candidates?
--
Mike Nolan"

I agree with this statement!  It's also inappropriate that the Co-chair of the
Election Committee, Bill Goichberg is endorsing and campaigning for some of the
candidates.

Regardless of the outcome of the election, I would like to request an
evaluation of the procedures and regulations in connection with the USCF
Executive Board's election, specially in regard of the ethical responsibilities
and obligations of the people directly involve in handling the technical
aspects of the election.

Yours for Chess,

WIM Beatriz Marinello


 
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Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2003 03:47:37 +0200
Local: Fri, Jul 4 2003 9:47 pm
Subject: Re: Don Schultz the Best

______________________________________

Rp:

I have no first hand knowledge of any of the facts or defenses of the
USCF's claim against you, or your claims against it.  It just strikes me
that with the minimal legal budget the USCF must have had, if your case
was as strong as you claim it is, you could/should have litigated and
won rather than liquidating/avoiding your debt in bankruptcy.

KidDon

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Date: 05 Jul 2003 02:20:56 GMT
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Subject: Re: Don Schultz the Best

>I have no first hand knowledge of any of the facts or defenses of the
>USCF's claim against you, or your claims against it.  It just strikes me
>that with the minimal legal budget the USCF must have had, if your case
>was as strong as you claim it is, you could/should have litigated and
>won rather than liquidating/avoiding your debt in bankruptcy.

>KidDon

The evidence withheld by Bob Smith did not appear until the summer of 2000.

But I do have to agree with your first point, you do know nothing.
Further, by approaching the USCF and through the USCF Secretary obtaining an
"extraordinary ballot" where both you and the USCF Secretary are announced
supporters of Don Schultz, let me be the first to accuse the two of you of
cheating in this election.

Richard Peterson


 
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From: chess...@aol.com (Don Schultz)
Date: 05 Jul 2003 02:25:13 GMT
Local: Fri, Jul 4 2003 10:25 pm
Subject: Re: Don Schultz the Best
Mike Nolan said:

>Bob, as the Secretary you are in charge of the election.  Don't you see
>it as inappropriate for you to be endorsing any candidates?
>--

Mike, what USCF secretaries have not endorsed candidates?

In the great tradition of the USCF Secretaries - Rachel Lieberman, Randy Hough,
Marshall Rohland, Leroy Dubeck, Bob Karch etc. , I cannot think of any that
didn't at one time or another support candidates.  


 
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Date: 05 Jul 2003 02:25:00 GMT
Subject: Re: Don Schultz the Best

>Bob, as the Secretary you are in charge of the election.  Don't you see
>it as inappropriate for you to be endorsing any candidates?
>--
>Mike Nolan

Mike,
While I agree with you, (Bob Smith is once again stepping all over the ethics
rules as he did in the Goichberg/Dorsch matter) you still have not answered the
questions regarding your consulting contract with the office which would
preclude you from being the parliamentarian for the same reasons you cite for
the demented Mr. Smith.

This would be a good time to come forward.  
Otherwise, you are not the one to be making the complaint.

Richard Peterson


 
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Date: 05 Jul 2003 02:34:47 GMT
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Subject: Re: Don Schultz the Best

>Mike, what USCF secretaries have not endorsed candidates?

>In the great tradition of the USCF Secretaries - Rachel Lieberman, Randy
>Hough,
>Marshall Rohland, Leroy Dubeck, Bob Karch etc. , I cannot think of any that
>didn't at one time or another support candidates.  

"The great tradition" LOL

Don Schultz falls into another ethical chasm.

This USCF Secretary (Bob Smith), who has never been able to get the minutes out
in any reasonable form or time period, is granting additional late ballots to
your supporters without the benefit of a written rule supporting this cheating.
In addition, the USCF Secretary is supporting the candidacy of Don Schultz.

Does it take a genius to connect the dots?

Richard Peterson


 
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From: bobch...@aol.com (BobChess)
Date: 05 Jul 2003 03:13:53 GMT
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Subject: Re: Don Schultz the Best
Richard Petrson, as we all know, was unable or unwilling to pay USCF some
$25,000.00 from his tournament in Phoenix. He chose Bankrutcy instead. y
parrots Doris Barry, his political ally, who resigned from the Executive Board.

My work as Secretary? He simply parrots the sour grapes of Doris Barry, former
Secretary.

Is this politics?  I wish I could say that Peterson's diatribes are just
politics, but they are merely an insight into what he  really is.

He just caught his hand in the cookie jar.

Bob Smith


 
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From: no...@gw.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: 5 Jul 2003 02:47:29 GMT
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Subject: Re: Don Schultz the Best

chess...@aol.com (Don Schultz) writes:
>>Bob, as the Secretary you are in charge of the election.  Don't you see
>>it as inappropriate for you to be endorsing any candidates?
>>--
>Mike, what USCF secretaries have not endorsed candidates?

And that makes it proper?  I believe that the Secretary has a duty to
remain impartial, and endorsing a candidate might give the appearance
of favoring that candidate should an issue arise upon which the Secretary
has to rule.  In point of fact, the Secretary has already ruled on several
points in this year's election, and at least one of those rulings could be
seen as favoring some of the candidates.  
--
Mike Nolan

 
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Date: 05 Jul 2003 03:39:02 GMT
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Subject: Re: Don Schultz the Best

I heartily endorse Mike Nolan's position here.

Past practices of USCF officers have not always been examples to follow in
avoiding the appearance of partiality or impropriety.

If nothing else, the OMOV changes should prompt us to look at the
organization's past practices with an eye to improvement.

Wick Deer

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Date: 05 Jul 2003 03:59:24 GMT
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Subject: Re: Don Schultz the Best

A review of the Google postings of the period would show that this
interpretation of the facts is subject to question.  Frankly, neither the posts
of Mr. Peterson or Mr. Smith are very informative, as they are two busy chewing
on each other like Rotweillers with the munchies.

A more objective brief summary of the facts would be as follows:

1.  Richard Peterson is awarded a bid to conduct the 1999 National Elementary
in Pheonix.

2.  Peterson is later awarded the bid for the 2000 National Elementary in
Dallas.

3.  A dispute arises between Peterson and USCF about the accounting for the
National Elementary.  Frankly, neither side has documented the transaction in a
remotely businesslike way.  The parties don't even agree what the contract
says, and the contract is silent on several points which are later in dispute.
USCF claims Peterson owes over $25,000, despite the fact that USCF, not
Peterson, collected the vast majority of the entry fees.

4.  USCF sues Peterson

5.  USCF board revokes the bid for the 2000 National Elementary.

6.  Despite the revocation, Peterson signs a contract with a hotel for the 2000
tournament in Dallas.

7.  USCF sets up a simultaneous event at a different Dallas Hotel.

8.  Smith and Peterson (and their lawyers)  reach an oral agreement to settle
the case against Peterson.  Terms of the oral agreement include holding the
National Elementary at Peterson's hotel, thus eliminating Peterson's obligation
to the hotel.

9.  The oral agreement falls through.

10.  Peterson declares bankruptcy.  His stated reason for the bankruptcy is to
cancel the hotel contract (a claim that is one of the few statements made by
either side about this entire affair that makes any sense logically.)

This is a simplified summary of a very complicated affair.  I have tried to be
concise and accurate to the best of my memory.  I think an objective observer
with a sense of humor could find hours of entertainment in researching the
Google records for the various details.

Paging Dr. Blair, paging Dr. Blair....

Wick Deer
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From: wickde...@cs.comKillSpam (Wickdeer3)
Date: 05 Jul 2003 04:10:27 GMT
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Subject: Re: Don Schultz the Best

KidDon wrote:
>Rp:

>I have no first hand knowledge of any of the facts or defenses of the
>USCF's claim against you, or your claims against it.  It just strikes me
>that with the minimal legal budget the USCF must have had, if your case
>was as strong as you claim it is, you could/should have litigated and
>won rather than liquidating/avoiding your debt in bankruptcy.

>KidDon

Don:

Please see my summary of events posted elsewhere in this thread.  The
bankruptcy may well have had a lot more to do with cancelling an executory
contract than with this litigation.

Also, USCF was in better fianancial shape at the time (or at least they were
claiming to be in better financial shape.)

If you are interested contact me for a lawyer to lawyer chat on some of the
details.  Suffice it to say that no one concerned would have made their lawyers
very happy with the way this affair was handled.

Wick Deer


 
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Date: 05 Jul 2003 05:16:32 GMT
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Subject: Re: Don Schultz the Best

>6.  Despite the revocation, Peterson signs a contract with a hotel for the
>2000
>tournament in Dallas.

The contract for the hotel in Dallas was signed a full year before USCF
cancelled the contract.

>8.  Smith and Peterson (and their lawyers)  reach an oral agreement to settle
>the case against Peterson.  Terms of the oral agreement include holding the
>National Elementary at Peterson's hotel, thus eliminating Peterson's
>obligation
>to the hotel.

The agreement was not oral it was in writing and if you check the dejas, you
can find a verbatim copy.  A copy was distributed to all the delegates at St
Paul.

>9.  The oral agreement falls through.

Smith does not act on the written agreement.

When the delegate packets come out, I discover that Mr. John L White has done a
management study at the request of Mr. Smith which is presented to Smith in
September of 1999.  This study is subject to subpoena, but Smith withholds it.

The White report states in no uncertain terms that no one in the office has
done any tournament accounting and that no one seemed to care.
Since the basis for the lawsuit was supposed to be a debt, Smith's withholding
the White report was a deliberate fraud on the part of the USCF President.

Richard Peterson


 
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Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 23:14:27 -0700
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Subject: Re: Don Schultz the Best
Beatrice,

I don't know you at all. If you think that this election (or any othe USCF
election) is on the up and up, you have another think coming. Watch the
ballot box security procedures, who has the key, and any othe custodial
issues you can think of.

USCF is famous for this sort of necrophilia.

Jane
http://www.lvcm.com/jadams

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Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 23:16:16 -0700
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Subject: Re: Don Schultz the Best

"Don Schultz" <chess...@aol.com> wrote in message

> Mike, what USCF secretaries have not endorsed candidates?

That's exactly like saying, what criminals don't commit crimes?

Jane


 
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From: chess...@aol.com (Don Schultz)
Date: 05 Jul 2003 06:35:04 GMT
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Subject: Re: Don Schultz the Best
Somebody whom apparently is afraid to use her/his real name said:

>That's exactly like saying, what criminals don't commit crimes?

My reply: Throughout the USA election supervisors are political and endorse
candidates. Now there may be good arguments against them doing this, BUT that
is the way it is and has been both in USA national elections and in the USCF.
To jump all over Bob for following this tradition is not at all like asking
what criminals don't commit crimes let alone exactly like it.

 
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Date: 05 Jul 2003 07:19:02 GMT
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Subject: Re: Don Schultz the Best

>My reply: Throughout the USA election supervisors are political and endorse
>candidates. Now there may be good arguments against them doing this, BUT that
>is the way it is and has been both in USA national elections and in the USCF.
>To jump all over Bob for following this tradition is not at all like asking
>what criminals don't commit crimes let alone exactly like it.

Another absurdity from Chessdon.

USCF Secretary Smith is issuing ballots to people who support Don Schultz when
there is no written basis for this preferential treatment.

A reasonable person would doubt that these rules would have been ignored if the
person asking was one of your opponents.

Kiddon makes a big point of telling us that he requested his ballot before July
1.  Of course, he said this one July 3 when no one else would qualify under
this supposed rule.

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Date: 05 Jul 2003 11:02:39 GMT
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Subject: Re: Don Schultz the Best

>I heartily endorse Mike Nolan's position here.

>Past practices of USCF officers have not always been examples to follow in
>avoiding the appearance of partiality or impropriety.

>If nothing else, the OMOV changes should prompt us to look at the
>organization's past practices with an eye to improvement.

>Wick Deer

Wick,

Dons improper appeal to practice is clearly not sufficient to justify or excuse
the conduct being criticized.

It is time to change the lack of results, poor business practice, wretched
accountability, and weak ethics that have plagued the USCF leadership for the
last two decades.

Those who argue for more of the same demonstrate most strongly the need for
term limits.

A vision for what we want the organization to be, and a road map of how we want
to get from here to there, is absolutely essential if we are to be a good
steward of our organizations resources. Let's take the opportunity to learn
from past mistakes and continue working towards building a better USCF.

Regards,
Wayne Praeder


 
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Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 08:50:35 -0400
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"Beatchess" <beatch...@aol.com> wrote in message

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> Regardless of the outcome of the election, I would like to request an
> evaluation of the procedures and regulations in connection with the USCF
> Executive Board's election, specially in regard of the ethical
responsibilities
> and obligations of the people directly involve in handling the technical
> aspects of the election.

You may be interested to know that an informal poll at the World Open has
you winning along with Schultz and Wagner.

StanB


 
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> But I do have to agree with your first point, you do know nothing.

Next time don't beat around bush.

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Date: 05 Jul 2003 13:21:34 GMT
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Subject: Re: Don Schultz the Best
"From: chess...@aol.com  (Don Schultz)
Date: 7/5/2003 2:35 AM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <20030705023504.23775.00000132@mb-m04.aol.com>

Somebody whom apparently is afraid to use her/his real name said:

>That's exactly like saying, what criminals don't commit crimes?

My reply: Throughout the USA election supervisors are political and endorse
candidates. Now there may be good arguments against them doing this, BUT that
is the way it is and has been both in USA national elections and in the USCF.
To jump all over Bob for following this tradition is not at all like asking
what criminals don't commit crimes let alone exactly like it. "

Don,

I agree that there may be good arguments to chance the historical and current
handle of the people directly involve with the election.

Mr. Bob Smith as a USCF Secretary had access to confidential information, such
as reviewing a copy of the ballot.  I know for a fact that he shared this
information with you, one of the candidates, since you sent a e-mail suggesting
some revisions.  This is a not acceptable, I respect loyalty and friendship,
but this is strictly business.

At the same time, Mr. Bill Goichberg, who is the co-chair of the Election
Committee had access to an electronic copy of the labels prepared specially for
the election, I do not this for a fact, but there was a rumor that he shared
with confidential information with other people.  I called the office in
relation to this matter and the solution was to offer similar information to
all candidates.  Mr. Mike Nolan sent a e-mail to all the candidates offering
this information.

On a positive side, I trust the other poeple envolve in handling the election,
specially Mr. Glen Peterson, who will be the Chief teller of this year's
election.

In conclusion, yes I agree with you about making some chances for future
elections.

Yours for Chess,

Beatriz Marinello


 
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From: liamtoo...@yahoo.com (Liam Too)
Date: 5 Jul 2003 08:05:04 -0700
Local: Sat, Jul 5 2003 11:05 am
Subject: Re: Don Schultz the Best

wickde...@cs.comKillSpam (Wickdeer3) wrote in message <news:20030704235924.25647.00000114@mb-m21.news.cs.com>...

>>Paging Dr. Blair, paging Dr. Blair.... Wick Deer<<

Sorry but Dr. Blair is busy right now with the Hanke proceedings.

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