Paul Troung is Bob Bennett
John Dough
Here is an email that I received from another person. His post is more
detailed than the proof that I had provided. I reprint this with his
permission:
Over the past few days, I followed the discussion between John Dough
and Bob Bennett quite anxiously because I wanted to know the answer to
the question asked - Are Paul Truong and Bob Bennett the same person?
I had the pleasure of meeting Paul Truong in Nashville earlier this
year. We chatted a bit about scholastic chess and he seemed like a
nice guy. I even had my picture taken with him and Susan Polgar. So
when I read that he was the new Director of Marketing and Public
Relations for the USCF, I thought that he could the one that finally
turns the USCF around. It was a very noble gesture for him to
volunteer for position. You couldn't pay me enough to deal with the
crap at the USCF.
But Bob Bennett is a completely different story. He is an obnoxious,
immature, vulgar, know-it-all that seems to take great pleasure in
lashing out at those who disagree with him. His recent victims include
Hanke, Fernandez, Hahn, Friedman, Paschall, Yermolinsky and now John
Dough. Rather than debate the facts presented, he just insults people.
I spent the past few hours comparing the r.g.c.p. posts of both Paul
Truong and Bob Bennett. What I discovered, to my disappointment, is
that the preponderance amount of evidence leads me to believe that
Paul Truong and Bob Bennett are the same person! Which leads me to the
next question, which I do not have an answer to - Who is the real Paul
Truong?
Here is the evidence that I collected which lead me to reach this
conclusion. Please feel free to draw your own conclusion.
#1) Although Bob Bennett uses AOL to connect to the Internet, he
attempts to hide his identity by using a generic email address from a
free email provider. All of the other AOL users who post on r.g.c.p.,
including JimEade, Rhaas, ASCAChess, JFernandez71, Drahmiel, Miriling,
LeModernCaveman and Recmate, do not go through this much trouble to
hide who they are. Why didn't he just create a new AOL screen name to
hide his identity? My guess is that he is trying to hide the fact that
he uses AOL. It didn't work.
#2) All of the other AOL users who post on r.g.c.p, including those
listed above, use AOL's newsgroup system to post, except for Paul
Truong and Bob Bennett. They both use Google to access the newsgroups.
I could understand why Bob Bennett wouldn't, since AOL wouldn't let
him hide who he is. But I don't understand why Paul would, considering
that Google's newsgroups postings are often delayed 3-12 hours. This
is quite a coincidence.
#3) Because Paul Truong and Bob Bennett use Google, the IP address of
the AOL dialup bank that they connect to is stored in the header of
the postings. Paul Truong and Bob Bennett always seem to be in the
same place, at the same time, even when those places can be as far
apart as New York City and Los Angeles! In one of his most recent
postings, Bob Bennett said that he lives `a few states away from`
California and has no reason to go to the US Open. So unless Bob has
been calling long distance to Los Angeles to dial in, there is no way
he could have the same IP!
FROM LOS ANGELES, DURING THE US OPEN
From: Pault...@aol.com (Paul Truong)
Subject: Re: The new EB is moving quickly with decisions
Organization: http://groups.google.com/
NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.81.26.103 <---- cache-ntc-ad02.proxy.aol.com
From: ch...@japan.com (Bob Bennett)
Subject: Re: Paul Truong - Background Interview
Organization: http://groups.google.com/
NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.81.26.103 <---- cache-ntc-ad02.proxy.aol.com
FROM NEW YORK CITY, DURING THE SUMMER
From: Pault...@aol.com (Paul Truong)
Subject: Re: Susan Polgar, let's see some analysis!
Organization: http://groups.google.com/
NNTP-Posting-Host: 152.163.252.163 <-- cache-rh03.proxy.aol.com
From: ch...@japan.com (Bob Bennett)
Subject: Re: Susan Polgar- USCF Grandmaster of the Year
Organization: http://groups.google.com/
NNTP-Posting-Host: 152.163.252.163 <-- cache-rh03.proxy.aol.com
#4) Bob Bennett rarely posts to rec.games.chess.politics, but when he
does, it is always to praise/defend Susan Polgar and Paul Truong. He
was the only person that defended Susan Polgar when she was named the
2003 USCF Grandmaster of the Year. He defended Susan Polgar regarding
her questionable use of the title `World Champion` in Chess Life . He
defended Paul Truong's decision to exclude the 2003 US Women's
Champion Anna Hahn from the US Women's Olympiad team. He defended Paul
Truong's decision regarding WGM Elena Donaldson and the US Women's
Olympiad team. It's an amazing coincidence that he and Paul have the
same opinion on everything.
#5) He claims that he never met Paul Truong but seems to know very
intimate details about Susan Polgar, including details about her
divorce and her financial situation. In his posting on 2/18/2003, he
implies that he does know Susan. So how can he know Susan without
having met Paul? Anyone who has even been to a tournament with Susan
Polgar present knows that Paul Truong hovers over her like a hawk. It
is impossible to meet Susan without meeting Paul. As a matter of fact,
I met Paul because I was trying to meet Susan!
#6) Are we supposed to believe that Bob Bennett, a self-described `red
neck American` that doesn't consider `chess to be a passion` and `is a
successful restaurant owner` who `owns a chain of 16 restaurants in
the tri-state area` while `living a few states from California` would
know the following things:
"WGM Elena Donaldson didn't get along with the 2002 US Women's
Olympiad Team Captain Ilya Gurevich."
"Susan Polgar could have made 20-30x the money to play for the
Hungarian Olympiad Team, instead of the US Team."
"WGM Dembo is a member of the Hungarian Women's Olympiad Team."
"That Susan Polgar brought in Gary Kasparov and OTHER World Class
Grandmasters to train the US Women's Olympiad Team."
"That Susan Polgar and Frederic Friedel (of ChessBase) have been
friends for 20 years"
"That Goletiani moved to the United States in 2000"
"That Susan Polgar's husband was both mentally and emotionally abusive
towards her for years"
"That Susan was very unhappy with her first book and it was one of the
reasons she divorced her husband"
"According to FIDE rules, the minimum prize funds for the women's
world championship are $200,000."
"The Grandmaster of the Year award is awarded to GMs who promote chess
in America, and not those that play it."
"Anna Hahn's friend's attacked the squad, the sponsors and the USCF in
an effort to get her a spot on the Women's Olympiad Team"
#7) Judge for yourself by looking at actual quotes from Bob Bennett's
postings to r.g.c.p. I cite the date and subject of the postings if
you wish to verify their authenticity. Please pay particular attention
to the details and facts he cites. I can't imagine there is anyone who
could know this level of details about Susan Polgar, Olympiad Team
guidelines, Eligibility rules, Polgar vs. FIDE and Grandmaster of the
Year other than Paul Truong, who is Susan's agent/business manager and
the Women's Olympiad Team's Captain, Business Manager and Training
Coordinator.
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IN REGARDS TO BEATRIZ MARINELLO, NEWLY ELECTED USCF PRESIDENT
2nd Lowest Rating - On the border! - "too much scholastic, too one
dimensional"
Bob Bennet - "Best Candidates - Comments" - June 12, 2003
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IN REGARDS TO TIM HANKE, NEWLY ELECTED USCF VICE PRESIDENT OF FINANCE
"Lowest Rating - No no no no way! - 'too radical, too negative'"
Bob Bennet - "Best Candidates - Comments" - June 12, 2003
"Mr. Tim Hanke, That clearly means that you have not been following US
chess and therefore you are not qualified to run for a board seat."
Bob Bennett - Yes!!!! Susan Polgar -- USCF GM of the year!!! -
06/05/2003
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IN REGARDS TO THE PAUL TRUONG
"USCF is lucky to have someone like that (Paul Truong) help them."
Bob Bennett - "Re: Paul Truong - Background Interview" - 8/13/2003
"I have never met Truong. He just seems to be a very mannerly person.
I cannot attack mannerly people."
Bob Bennett - "New Boards 2nd Mistake" - 8/14/2003
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IN REGARDS TO THE US WOMEN'S OLYMPIAD:
"Anna Hahn should be crowned as the US Women's Blitz Chess Champion
not US Women's Chess Champion. The two types of chess have nothing to
do with each other. Shahade and Krush clearly were superior to Anna."
Bob Bennet - Re: Is Anna Hahn Eligible to play in the next US
Championship - 4/13/2003
"The 2004 US Women's Olympiad training squad was selected purely by
ratings. After the team have been training together for months, Anna
Hahn's friends used their positions to push the sponsors to give her a
spot. Her friends attacked the squad, the sponsors and USCF along the
way. "
Bob Bennett - "Should Anna Hahn do it?" - 4/13/2003
"Finally, they include her. Should Anna Hahn, as the US Women's
Champion humiliate herself knowing that there are so many conflicts
and bitterness between her and others? Should she degrade and
embarrass herself by attend this session knowing that she only got the
invitation because her friends bully everybody?"
Bob Bennett - "Should Anna Hahn do it?" - 4/13/2003
"When her rating is 2400 or when she wins another few major
tournament, then I would consider putting her in the same level.
Getting lucky in 1 Swiss tournament does not put you in the same
level. "
Bob Bennett - "Re: Is it equal?" - 4/6/2003
"Does anyone really consider Anna Hahn the same caliber player as
Irina Krush, Jenn Shahade, Elena Donaldson, etc.?"
Bob Bennett - "Is it equal?" - 4/6/2003
"In the Olympiad, the Captain has the right to have his/her own
strategy and he/she can tell each player to go for the win or draw. "
Bob Bennett - "Sam's point about the Russian Women's Team in 1988" -
4/3/2003
"Another fact is she (WGM Elena Donaldson) did not get along with her
captain Ilya Gurevich while all the other members did."
Bob Bennett - "Elena Akhmilovskaya Donaldson at the 1988 World Chess
Olympiad" - 4/3/2003
"Now the USCF is lucky enough to finally have somebody like Polgar,
Kasparov and Truong helping them, everyone should be thankful that US
team has a chance to do something special."
Bob Bennett - "US Women's Team Democratic Player Selection??" -
3/30/2003
"Both Polgar (1994-2003) and Goletiani (2000-2003) qualify under 2 or
3 year rule. And Goletiani was not allowed to play under the old rule
so she lost 3 years as a Junior player (18-21)."
Bob Bennett - "John Fernandez and Yermonlinsky, long lost brothers? -
3/29/2003
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IN REGARDS TO BOB BENNETT:
"And if it makes you happy, I live a few states away from CA, not the
east coast."
Bob Bennett - "Eric Johnson is John Dough" - 8/16/2003
"Why the hell should I go to the US Open?"
Bob Bennett - "Eric Johnson is John Dough" - 8/16/2003
"I am a redneck American and I don't like people who are racist or
sexist."
Bob Bennett - "Re: US Women's Team Democratic Player Selection??" -
3/29/2003
"I am a novice chess player and playing chess is not my passion. My
son is the one who is into chess."
Bob Bennett - "Re: US Women's Team Democratic Player Selection??" -
3/29/2003
"I am a successful restaurant owner. I own 16 of them in the tri-state
area."
Bob Bennett - "Re: US Women's Team Democratic Player Selection??" -
3/29/2003
"(I am) A good old red neck American-born who supports the best team
possible regardless if they are Americans or not. "
Bob Bannett - "Re: US Women's Team Democratic Player Selection??" -
3/29/2003
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IN REGARDS TO SUSAN POLGAR AND USCF GRANDMASTER OF THE YEAR:
"She helped created the Women's Olympiad Training Program, the best
training program for our top women in America. She brought in Garry
Kasparov and other world-class GMs to help out."
Bob Bennett - Yes!!!! Susan Polgar -- USCF GM of the year!!! -
06/05/2003
"No GM has done much more this year to promote Chess in America for
USCF than Zsuzsa Polgar. She gave up 20-30 times more money to play
for the US in the upcoming Olympiad instead of Hungary with her
sisters Judit, Sofia and WGM Dembo."
Bob Bennett - Yes!!!! Susan Polgar -- USCF GM of the year!!! -
06/05/2003
"She has also done so many other things for USCF to help promote chess
in America that the public does not even know about since she is quite
humble and modest."
Bob Bennett - Yes!!!! Susan Polgar -- USCF GM of the year!!! -
06/05/2003
"Secondly, Frederic (Friedel) is a friend of Zsuzsa for 20 years, that
is why he wrote about her."
Bob Bennett - Re: Susan Polgar- USCF Grandmaster of the Year -
06/05/2003
"The Grandmaster of the Year award is for the works of these GMs to
promote chess in America. It has nothing to do with tournament play.
No GM in America has done more for USCF this year than Zsuzsa."
Bob Bennett - Re: Susan Polgar- USCF Grandmaster of the Year -
06/05/2003
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IN REGARDS TO SUSAN POLGAR AND THE WORLD CHAMPION TITLE
"According to FIDE rules, the minimum prize funds for the women's
world championship are $200,000. "
Bob Bennett - Re: if you think Polgar is still world champion -
02/18/03
"She took them to court and FIDE lost on ALL counts. The problem was
she was only rewarded $25,000 due to the fact the Kirsan claimed that
FIDE was broke."
Bob Bennett - Re: if you think Polgar is still world champion -
02/18/03
"After expenses and lawyer's fees, there was nothing left of this
money except a moral victory that she was right all along."
Bob Bennett - Re: if you think Polgar is still world champion -
02/18/03
"She was very unhappy with the book herself. If anyone knows Zsuzsa
personally, you would understand that it was not the same person who
wrote the book "
Bob Bennett - Re: if you think Polgar is still world champion -
02/18/03
"In fact, that was one of her reasons for the divorce beside emotional
and mental abuse by him for many years, etc."
Bob Bennett - Re: if you think Polgar is still world champion -
02/18/03
What do you think now Bob?
JD
Joshua B. Lilly
Is John Dough the combined essence of both?
I mean, some people have personality problems, who knows for sure that Bob
Dough Truong wouldn't post under two names, and then expose himself out of
personal spite against himselves.
"John Dough" <chess...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:76f75d0.03081...@posting.google.com...
Frisco Del Rosario
> What do you think now Bob?
Pretty damning, and a fine piece of detective work, especially the bit
about the AOL use and Google headers.
Now get to work on James B. Shearer.
maxi
Bruce Leverett
Relations has been using pseudonyms to discuss USCF matters on RGCP,
it's a scandal.
It's as if the CFO had been shoplifting.
Tim Hanke suggests that the pseudonym should just "fade away". But
this isn't right. The accusation is too serious to just fade away.
Am I the only one who thinks so?
chess...@yahoo.com (John Dough) wrote in message news:<76f75d0.03081...@posting.google.com>...
John Fernandez
>From: blev...@spinnakernet.com (Bruce Leverett)
>Date: 8/26/2003 5:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <600a9530.03082...@posting.google.com>
>
>Well, if the newly appointed USCF Director of Marketing and Public
>Relations has been using pseudonyms to discuss USCF matters on RGCP,
>it's a scandal.
>
>It's as if the CFO had been shoplifting.
>
>Tim Hanke suggests that the pseudonym should just "fade away". But
>this isn't right. The accusation is too serious to just fade away.
>Am I the only one who thinks so?
Well, if true, yes. I have to admit, that "evidence" is a bit spooky.
John Fernandez
Sam Sloan
Fernandez) wrote:
It woiuld not be a scandal. Many, and I suspect most, USCF officials
have posted to this group under a fake name at one time or another.
It would be surprising however because the two persons in question
seem to have the opposite personalities and if they turn out to be the
same person that would be noteworthy.
Sam Sloan
John Fernandez
>Date: 8/27/2003 8:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <3f4ca4d8...@ca.news.verio.net>
Perhaps. But some people have been very vicious in their postings.
John Fernandez
Bruce Leverett
[snip]
> It would not be a scandal. Many, and I suspect most, USCF officials
> have posted to this group under a fake name at one time or another.
At the risk of repeating myself: those "other USCF officials" were
not the Director of Marketing and Public Relations. Disinformation is
to marketing and public relations, as embezzlement is to accounting.
Moreover, once the readership thinks that your Director of Marketing
and Public Relations is into disinformation, they stop believing your
marketing and public relations, and then, you might as well not have
any marketing and public relations.
I agree with John Fernandez that the evidence needs to be carefully
evaluated.
Spam Scone
Bruce,
Did you notice that Mr. Troung joined the Cramer Committee this year?
Guess what chess column won the Chess Column of the Year Award? Susan
Polgar's column in Chess Life, co-written with Paul Troung!
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Sam Sloan
Fernandez) wrote:
It woiuld not be a scandal. Many USCF officials have posted to this
group under a fake name at one time or another.
It would be surprising however because the two persons in question