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parrt...@cs.com

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May 25, 2005, 8:32:49 PM5/25/05
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OPEN NOTE TO THE NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, WHOEVER YOU ARE

You will know when your time is up at the Federation when the Executive
Board holds its first overwhelmingly favorable vote of confidence in
your leadership. That is the precise moment to begin job-hunting and
skedaddle.

Remember: votes of confidence are fatal to EDs.

In a message dated 5/25/2005 6:02:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
halt...@yahoo.com writes:

You are right but not one word about a new ED was mentioned during
the Sunday afternoon open session. I believe Don Schultz posted that
a brief, unannounced, open session was held on Sunday morning to take
a vote on the new ED. However, he did not mention who was chosen. I
have not seen any announcement elsewhere either.

-- Hal Terrie

Dear Chess People: I did not mention who was chosen. The reason is that
he has not yet accepted the job.

I did place his job and educational experience in the open record. For
the time being, I would prefer not leaving it on an open bulletin board
but as an active member of one of our important committees, I would be
glad to email it to you or any other official USCF delegate. Simply
request it.

I expect the candidate will likely accept our generous offer in a
couple of days and will be able to start on the job within a few days
after that. The audio of the open session voting him an offer will be
available on the Internet shortly.

I wish the man well and will do all I can to help him. I consider him
smart but unqualified for the job. In fairness to him, only I felt this
way - all other Board members have no doubt in their mind that he will
succeed.

Aside from qualifications of the applicant, I believe this EB should
have left the choice of the new ED up to the next EB whom he will work
under and whose members will be known in about seven weeks - July 22.

Don Schultz


ChessMa...@aol.com writes:

I am confused. Why would someone apply for the position then think
about it when the position was offer to him/her?

Dear Chess Marketing:

The turn over of USCF EDs has been high so I would expect someone
seeking the job would want some protection that he would have an
opportunity to prove himself especially since he will be hired to work
under a different EB than the one that chooses him which in fact is one
of the reasons why I felt it would be wiser for this EB to wait the
seven weeks.

Political? Let's not forget that this EB refused to give USCF's biggest
sponsor ever (the AF4C) two weeks to develop together with Allen Gerry
one the wealthiest persons in the world a bid on hosting the USCF.
There certainly is something to be said for decisiveness but decisions
on moving and hiring new EDs are special and should involve special
consideration in exceptional circumstances.

Don Schultz

Taylor Kingston

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May 25, 2005, 8:48:46 PM5/25/05
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parrt...@cs.com wrote:
> OPEN NOTE TO THE NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, WHOEVER YOU ARE

Larry, whoever the new executive director may be, he/she will expect
you to answer those "3 Simple Questions for Larry Parr." Don't keep him
waiting.

TR

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May 25, 2005, 10:48:00 PM5/25/05
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>
> ChessMa...@aol.com writes:
>
> I am confused. Why would someone apply for the position then think
> about it when the position was offer to him/her?
>

This is routine for professional and executive positions. Successful
candidates typically want to negotiate some specifics and after that
discussion ends, may still need some time to judge the final offer. I
hope that the person to whom the ED position has been offered is
thinking about whether the way the job is structure will allow him or
her a reasonable chance of succeeding.

TR

Mike Nolan

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May 25, 2005, 11:22:30 PM5/25/05
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"TR" <trpubli...@yahoo.com> writes:


>This is routine for professional and executive positions. Successful
>candidates typically want to negotiate some specifics and after that
>discussion ends, may still need some time to judge the final offer. I
>hope that the person to whom the ED position has been offered is
>thinking about whether the way the job is structure will allow him or
>her a reasonable chance of succeeding.

Given the USCF's history with EDs over the last decade, perhaps the
candidate wants to negotiate key parts of his employment contract before
accepting it, like a severance clause and performance criteria.
--
Mike Nolan

parrt...@cs.com

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May 26, 2005, 1:41:24 AM5/26/05
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SOUND FAMILIAR?

A secret "public" meeting on Sunday morning to hire a new Executive
Director No details on the ED beyond rumors he
knows little about chess. Possibly a multi-year deal with severance
package.

Kinda sounds familiar. One already has that
old queasy feeling.

One already figures that when the first big
blunders come, those who voted to hire will defend the
indefensible.

This does not make the current Board majority
uniquely evil. It is actually old Federation hat and
should be greeted with a smile of recognition.

parrt...@cs.com

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May 26, 2005, 1:41:44 AM5/26/05
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Randy Bauer

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May 26, 2005, 6:58:19 AM5/26/05
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<parrt...@cs.com> wrote in message
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> SOUND FAMILIAR?
>
> A secret "public" meeting on Sunday morning to hire a new Executive
> Director No details on the ED beyond rumors he
> knows little about chess. Possibly a multi-year deal with severance
> package.

2100 rating, multiple times scholastic champion. Is that your definition of
someone who "knows little about chess?"

>
> Kinda sounds familiar. One already has that
> old queasy feeling.

When it comes to Parr's writing, it sure does. He's missed just about
everything that has actually been happening. At various times he's focused
on Beatriz becoming ED (since we're hiring a permanent ED, that one looks
pretty lame), a major cash crunch this fiscal year (instead we're still
holding the proceeds from the sale of the previous building and set to
finish a second consecutive year in the black after 7 years in the red),
$60,000 in annualized expenses for Beatriz (nowhere close), and the hundres
of thousands it will cost to move to Crossville (try a single hundred
thousand). Now he's fixated on the cost of the new building, which will not
be much more than what we sold our old, in need of repair building in New
Windsor. No doubt the ED will also get some of his, ahem, attention.

Randy Bauer


Taylor Kingston

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May 26, 2005, 7:06:40 AM5/26/05
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parrt...@cs.com wrote:
> Kinda sounds familiar. One already has that
> old queasy feeling.

Perhaps that explains why Larry Parr has still not answered my "3
Simple Questions for Larry Parr." The prospect gives him a queasy
feeling.

Ray Gordon

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May 26, 2005, 7:28:07 AM5/26/05
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>> A secret "public" meeting on Sunday morning to hire a new Executive
>> Director No details on the ED beyond rumors he
>> knows little about chess. Possibly a multi-year deal with severance
>> package.
>
> 2100 rating, multiple times scholastic champion. Is that your definition
> of someone who "knows little about chess?"

I was rated 2000 at one time and they say that about me!

Chess One

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May 26, 2005, 7:45:59 AM5/26/05
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<parrt...@cs.com> wrote in message
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> SOUND FAMILIAR?
>
> A secret "public" meeting on Sunday morning to hire a new Executive
> Director No details on the ED beyond rumors he
> knows little about chess. Possibly a multi-year deal with severance
> package.

Wild guess: 3 years at $75k a year

Which makes the unattended meeting responsible for spending $225k.

Phil

RSH...@aol.com

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May 26, 2005, 10:15:03 AM5/26/05
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"No details on the ED beyond rumors he
knows little about chess." (Parr)
===========
They must have picked me, Old Haasie. I can hardly wait to take that
11 AM to 2 PM job. The rest of the time you could find me down at the
Crossville Cafe & Taxidermy Shop jawboning with the boys from the
Frontloader club.

Old Haasie

Larry Tapper

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May 26, 2005, 2:16:07 PM5/26/05
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Chess One wrote:
> <parrt...@cs.com> wrote in message
> news:1117086104.5...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
> > SOUND FAMILIAR?
> >
> > A secret "public" meeting on Sunday morning to hire a new Executive
> > Director No details on the ED beyond rumors he
> > knows little about chess. Possibly a multi-year deal with severance
> > package.
>
> Wild guess: 3 years at $75k a year
>
> Which makes the unattended meeting responsible for spending $225k.
>
> Phil

Yeah, if only they had had a _real_ public meeting they probably could
have gotten Lee Iacocca to do the job for free.

Randy Bauer

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May 26, 2005, 3:15:27 PM5/26/05
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"Larry Tapper" <larry_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1117131367....@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

The important part of the meeting being public is that it was taped and will
eventually make its way onto the USCF website. Then all can take a look at
the discussion surrounding the selection.

One of the problems with USCF executive board sessions is they run way over
the allotted time. In this case, we had hoped to have a decision and
publicly introduce the new ED Saturday evening. We had not yet made that
decision, however, so it spilled well into Sunday. At the point where we
had made a decision, we opened the meeting up (made it public). Nobody was
waiting around in the hall for this momentous news, so nobody witnessed it
in person. Likewise, it was not discussed in the open forum on Sunday
evening because the candidate to whom we offered the position wanted some
time to consider the offer.

Randy Bauer


Chess One

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May 26, 2005, 4:11:45 PM5/26/05
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"Larry Tapper" <larry_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
>

Larry, I never suspected you had /such/ a sense of humor. Of course, what
will the poor future incumbent be looking at for the next 3 years? What a
bloody miserable scenario! Lee would be as appropriate for the post as
George Soros.

I am still unsure of the brief for this quarter million dollar contract -
your insiders tell you anything? Mine are of tree minds.

Cordially, Phil


halt...@worldnet.att.net

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May 26, 2005, 4:38:32 PM5/26/05
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Randy Bauer wrote:
>
> The important part of the meeting being public is that it was taped and will
> eventually make its way onto the USCF website. Then all can take a look at
> the discussion surrounding the selection.
>
> One of the problems with USCF executive board sessions is they run way over
> the allotted time. In this case, we had hoped to have a decision and
> publicly introduce the new ED Saturday evening. We had not yet made that
> decision, however, so it spilled well into Sunday. At the point where we
> had made a decision, we opened the meeting up (made it public). Nobody was
> waiting around in the hall for this momentous news, so nobody witnessed it
> in person.

The EB told me that the next open session would be at 3:00 PM Sunday,
so that's when I showed up. Larry Parr suggests that a good reporter
would have waited outside the door all day but there was not one single
chair anywhere in the hallway. I was not going to stand there all day
when I could go watch GM Ashley's game analysis (sitting down!) from
the tournament instead.

I have to say that I'm not at all sure that just opening the doors at
some random, unannounced moment satisfies the requirement for an open
session. That the session was taped is irrelevant.

I also remain deeply suspicious of the closed vs. open session
durations. I have seen again and again EB meetings of two days in which
open sessions total maybe two hours per day or less. There are supposed
to be written guidelines about what can be discussed in closed session;
I'm not convinced that they are being followed.

-- Hal Terrie

ches...@aol.com

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May 26, 2005, 4:57:12 PM5/26/05
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Now that Bill Hall has accepted the ED job, I see no reason not to post
his experience here:

August, 2002 to Present: Teacher, Cumberland High school

Summer 2004 Uplands Retirement Village, Computer Consultant

Feb. 1995 to Sept. 2001, Nikken Independent Distributor

Spring and Summer 2001 Roan State Comminity College, MS Access
Instructor

Summer 2001: Staples, Inc.. Electronics Lead and Computer Technician

Jan 96 to Dec 99: Keck Masonry, Accounting Consultant

Ted's Country Diner, Accounting Consultant

Sept. 1993 to Jan 1995: Vector Marketing

************************************************

Here is the job history of the other candidate:

2001 to Present: Subcommittee Staff Director for a Standing Committee
of the United States Congress

2001 to Present: Adjunct Professor, MBA Program Norwich University,
Vermont

2000 to 2001: Deputy Asst. Secretary of Defense for Manpower &
Personnel , Reserve Affairs

1998-1999: Consultant: Strategic Planning and Performance Management

1997-1998; Analyst, Executive Office of the U. S. President

Tyrone Slothrop

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May 26, 2005, 5:01:11 PM5/26/05
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I'm speechless.

ches...@aol.com

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May 26, 2005, 5:31:00 PM5/26/05
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I inadvertently left off the military career of the candidate above who
did not get the job.
Here it is:

20 years as an Air Force Command Pilot with 2800 flying hours many of
which were with highly sensitive surveillance aircraft.

Mike Murray

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May 26, 2005, 5:38:35 PM5/26/05
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On 26 May 2005 13:57:12 -0700, ches...@aol.com wrote:

>Now that Bill Hall has accepted the ED job, I see no reason not to post
>his experience here:
>
>August, 2002 to Present: Teacher, Cumberland High school
>
>Summer 2004 Uplands Retirement Village, Computer Consultant
>
>Feb. 1995 to Sept. 2001, Nikken Independent Distributor
>
>Spring and Summer 2001 Roan State Comminity College, MS Access
>Instructor
>
>Summer 2001: Staples, Inc.. Electronics Lead and Computer Technician
>
>Jan 96 to Dec 99: Keck Masonry, Accounting Consultant
>
>Ted's Country Diner, Accounting Consultant
>
>Sept. 1993 to Jan 1995: Vector Marketing

Jesus H Christ! You're pullin' our leg, right? ... right ? ... right
?

ches...@aol.com

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May 26, 2005, 5:44:17 PM5/26/05
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This is why I am so upset. I did also inadvertently leave off Hall's
resume that he graduated from MIT in 2002 but I said that on the
Internet already.

Mike Murray

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May 26, 2005, 6:28:42 PM5/26/05
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Is he the one with a 2098 rating ?

ches...@aol.com

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May 26, 2005, 6:35:15 PM5/26/05
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Hall has the 2098 rating, the other fellow isabout 1850 I think.

Don

parrt...@cs.com

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May 26, 2005, 9:02:32 PM5/26/05
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TYRONE SLOTHROP IS SPEECHLESS

<Likewise, it was not discussed in the open forum on Sunday evening
because the candidate to whom we offered the position wanted some
time to consider the offer.> Randy Bauer

The pro-power claque will tell you that Honest Randy Bauer's
explanation is true. It is a planned lie, of course. They shelled
out about a quarter million without spectators present and without
having to worry about questions and debate, which might get out of
hand.

Federation history is filled with such instances. Randy Bauer is
in the grand tradition.

Sam Sloan

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May 26, 2005, 9:05:19 PM5/26/05
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This makes it obvious why he was selected over the other candidates..

Bill Hall is a local boy from the Crossville area. If the good guys
win the forthcoming election, they will almost certainly want to move
the USCF headquarters back to civilized territory. Knowing this, the
incumbent board will probably offer Bill Hall an employment contract
which gives him some kind of golden parachut so as to make it
prohibitively expensive for the USCF to move away from Crossville.
Then we can have a nice lawsuit to see whether such an employment
contract is valid and authorized.

Sam Sloan

On 26 May 2005 13:57:12 -0700, ches...@aol.com wrote:

Randy Bauer

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May 26, 2005, 9:41:08 PM5/26/05
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In article <1117139912....@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
halt...@worldnet.att.net says...

>
>Randy Bauer wrote:
>>
>> The important part of the meeting being public is that it was taped and will
>> eventually make its way onto the USCF website. Then all can take a look at
>> the discussion surrounding the selection.
>>
>> One of the problems with USCF executive board sessions is they run way over
>> the allotted time. In this case, we had hoped to have a decision and
>> publicly introduce the new ED Saturday evening. We had not yet made that
>> decision, however, so it spilled well into Sunday. At the point where we
>> had made a decision, we opened the meeting up (made it public). Nobody was
>> waiting around in the hall for this momentous news, so nobody witnessed it
>> in person.
>
>The EB told me that the next open session would be at 3:00 PM Sunday,
>so that's when I showed up. Larry Parr suggests that a good reporter
>would have waited outside the door all day but there was not one single
>chair anywhere in the hallway. I was not going to stand there all day
>when I could go watch GM Ashley's game analysis (sitting down!) from
>the tournament instead.
>
>I have to say that I'm not at all sure that just opening the doors at
>some random, unannounced moment satisfies the requirement for an open
>session. That the session was taped is irrelevant.

I would disagree here. There are very few people who actually attend the
physical meeting. The opportunity to view the open sessions on the website is
very relevant.


>
>I also remain deeply suspicious of the closed vs. open session
>durations. I have seen again and again EB meetings of two days in which
>open sessions total maybe two hours per day or less. There are supposed
>to be written guidelines about what can be discussed in closed session;
>I'm not convinced that they are being followed.

I'm also not thrilled by this. I think the benefit of the doubt should be for
open sessions, and I have suggested this as a member of the Executive Board.

Randy Bauer
>
>-- Hal Terrie
>

Randy Bauer

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May 26, 2005, 9:55:02 PM5/26/05
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In article <1117141032.8...@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
ches...@aol.com says...

>
>Now that Bill Hall has accepted the ED job, I see no reason not to post
>his experience here:

Don wouldn't seek to, perchance, make one of the candidates look better and one
worse, would he? Of course not, he probably just forgot some of the details,
which I will provide below.


>
>August, 2002 to Present: Teacher, Cumberland High school

Bill is a graduate of MIT and teaches Physics and Math as well as ACT prep. He
is a tenured teacher and about to receive his MA in education.


>
>Summer 2004 Uplands Retirement Village, Computer Consultant

Bill converted their accounting software from SBT to ACCPAC. He also
reorganized their financial reporting and reconciled existing errors.


>
>Feb. 1995 to Sept. 2001, Nikken Independent Distributor

Bill recruited and trained distributors, developing an organizatino of over 800
distributors nationwide. This included many speaking engagements, sales and
sales training.


>
>Spring and Summer 2001 Roan State Comminity College, MS Access
>Instructor

He conducted training seminars on MS Access 2000, including training in database
management.


>
>Summer 2001: Staples, Inc.. Electronics Lead and Computer Technician

He supervised 7 employees and the organizatino of the electronics department for
a successful store opening.


>
>Jan 96 to Dec 99: Keck Masonry, Accounting Consultant

He established a bookkeeping system for this business.


>
>Ted's Country Diner, Accounting Consultant

He established and maintained a bookkeeping system, calculated payroll and
developed a computerized inventory tracking system.


>
>Sept. 1993 to Jan 1995: Vector Marketing

He managed over 300 sales representatives and 3 assistant managers. he received
the fastest promotion in company history from office manager to district
manager. He received national recognition for having the highest per
representative productivity out of 250 offices nationwide. Broke multiple
Southern Zone office sales records.

Meanwhile, Bill is a 2100 player and a scholastic champion. He is from the
Crossville area and should be a big help with moving our operation to his
hometown.

Randy Bauer

Randy Bauer

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May 26, 2005, 9:57:17 PM5/26/05
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In article <1117143060....@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
ches...@aol.com says...

I'm sure that would prove particularly useful as Executive Director of the USCF.
On the other hand, you forgot to mention that Bill Hall is a 2100 player, a
scholastic chess champion, and well connected with the Tennessee chess
community.

Randy Bauer

Sam Sloan

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On 26 May 2005 18:55:02 -0700, Randy Bauer <Randy_...@newsguy.com>
wrote:

I am glad to hear that he has all these qualifications. In that case,
we certainly do not George John, who has not shown his ugly face here
lately anyway.

Sam Sloan

Randy Bauer

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May 26, 2005, 10:37:09 PM5/26/05
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In article <1117146915.2...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
ches...@aol.com says...

>
>Hall has the 2098 rating, the other fellow isabout 1850 I think.
>
>Don
>
Yes, and the other fellow wanted $120,000. I assume Don would have paid it.
It's amazing that some people raise every possible concern about spending except
when they want to do the spending.

Randy Bauer

StanB

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May 26, 2005, 11:34:28 PM5/26/05
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<parrt...@cs.com> wrote in message
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> A secret "public" meeting on Sunday morning to hire a new Executive
> Director

To use a term like secret instaed of closed is to lie about the proper way
to discuss matters of personnel.

> No details on the ED beyond rumors he
> knows little about chess.

Rumors or innuendo? So hard for a good reporter to research.
http://www.uschess.org/msa/MbrDtlMain.php?12397673

> Possibly a multi-year deal with severance
> package.

I doubt it.


Sam Sloan

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May 26, 2005, 11:48:15 PM5/26/05
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At 02:08 AM 5/27/2005 -0000, randybauer2300 wrote:
>--- In fide-...@yahoogroups.com, "Fidelis" <fidelis@t...> wrote:
>> Gentlemen:
>>
>> The translation of this exchange: Don Schultz's response was
>100
>> percent accurate. The point was that Randy Bauer endeavored to
>suggest that
>> Mr. Schultz was somehow derelict, when both Mr. Schultz and other
>members of
>> the Board were in expectation that the job would be done by Mr.
>Bauer, who
>> says that he did it.
>
>I did exactly what was requested of me, which is an employer's standard
>background check. I have done several of these, and I did the same one
>for the USCF that is done for the State of Iowa. Perhaps Parr has more
>experience here?
>
>Randy Bauer

I am certainly glad you did this.

I strongly suspect that George DeFeis had almost none of the
qualifications he claimed to have.

Unfortunately, nobody bothered to check them and the USCF lost a
million dollars as a result.

Sam Sloan

StanB

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May 27, 2005, 12:03:54 AM5/27/05
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<ches...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Not what he told me. He said he flew the KC-135. A flying gas can.


StanB

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May 27, 2005, 12:06:28 AM5/27/05
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<parrt...@cs.com> wrote in message
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> The pro-power claque will tell you that Honest Randy Bauer's
> explanation is true. It is a planned lie, of course. They shelled
> out about a quarter million

Nowhere near that amount.


StanB

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May 27, 2005, 12:10:12 AM5/27/05
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"Randy Bauer" <Randy_...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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> Yes, and the other fellow wanted $120,000. I assume Don would have paid
> it.

He said we could get funding for it. I didn't know he was gonna put up the
money. I never would have quipped about Don's famous vapor funding.


RSH...@aol.com

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May 27, 2005, 12:15:43 AM5/27/05
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My guess would be they hired a local boy so HQ wouldn't have to pay
moving expenses.
I wonder why a 2002 graduate of MIT would vegetate around
Crossville for several years and vegetate further as Chess HQ's ED?
Running HQ is somewhat on the same order as being the manager of a 7-11
convenience store.

Old Haasie

StanB

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<RSH...@aol.com> wrote in message
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I wonder why he keeps hopping from job to job.


Jürgen R.

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May 27, 2005, 3:45:58 AM5/27/05
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>>
>>Sept. 1993 to Jan 1995: Vector Marketing
>
>He managed over 300 sales representatives and 3 assistant managers. he received
>the fastest promotion in company history from office manager to district
>manager. He received national recognition for having the highest per
>representative productivity out of 250 offices nationwide. Broke multiple
>Southern Zone office sales records.

LOL - This is unbelievable. Sounds like Sam Sloan's resume.You sure
You arent't making a sall mistake?


Read this and tell me if Honest Randy is pulling your leg.

http://consumeraffairs.com/news03/save.html

<quote>
Vector Marketing is a company that targets students nationwide to sell
Cutco kitchen knives with in-home demonstrations. ...

David Tatar, a supervisor with the Wisconsin Consumer Protection Dept.
was quoted in 1996 by the Washington Post as saying "that state
surveyed 940 Vector recruits in 1992 and found that almost half either
earned nothing or lost money working for Vector" and "workers in that
state earned less than $3 a day on average selling cutlery for
Vector."
<end quote>

etc. etc.


Jürgen R.

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May 27, 2005, 4:16:55 AM5/27/05
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[...]

>>
>>August, 2002 to Present: Teacher, Cumberland High school
>
>Bill is a graduate of MIT and teaches Physics and Math as well as ACT prep. He
>is a tenured teacher and about to receive his MA in education.

So his main achievement is that he is a high school teacher?
Impressive.

[...]


>>Feb. 1995 to Sept. 2001, Nikken Independent Distributor
>
>Bill recruited and trained distributors, developing an organizatino of over 800
>distributors nationwide. This included many speaking engagements, sales and
>sales training.

Why are you trying to make this sound like employment? Have you looked
up Nikken? This is just another 'network marketing' scheme with
worthless products.

[...]
>Randy Bauer

The guy evidently never held on to any kind of job. How old is he?

Randy Bauer

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"StanB" <stan...@comXXXcast.net> wrote in message
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Several of his jobs were summer positions while he was a teacher. I got the
impression he likes to keep busy.


TR

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May 27, 2005, 8:33:31 AM5/27/05
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Did the board set any specific performance expectations for the new ED?
Would it be appropriate to share them if so?

When does Mr. Hall start work?

TR

StanB

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May 27, 2005, 10:04:18 AM5/27/05
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"TR" <trpubli...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> When does Mr. Hall start work?

As soon as he finishes with the spring plowing and puts up the first hay of
the year.


parrt...@cs.com

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May 27, 2005, 10:04:52 AM5/27/05
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BUDDING DISASTER

<So his main achievement is that he is a high school teacher?

Impressive.> Jurgen

I don't trust Randy Bauer in the least. And I shall continue
explaining what could be happening with that budding disaster: the
new, small planned USCF building in Cross-to-Bear.

Having said that, perhaps the job hopping and the teaching stint
are products of AMBITION on Mr. Hall's part. Perhaps they are a sign
of restlessness. Perhaps taking a job at the USCF is an example of
human weakness: a chess player who just can't resist the Siren's call
to get involved in chess full-time. Reasonable men have fallen for that
lure.

I suggest we give Mr. Hall this a chance before dipping him
unremittingly like some prisoner at Guantanamo in giant vats of rgcp
vitriol: let us see whether he acts as a manly Executive Director who
is not a cipher Randy Bauer Beatriz Marinello. Perhaps he will set
about doing a decent job, obeying orders but also trying to shape those
orders to make sense.

parrt...@cs.com

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May 27, 2005, 10:05:19 AM5/27/05
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Sam Sloan

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May 27, 2005, 10:18:44 AM5/27/05
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On 26 May 2005 19:37:09 -0700, Randy Bauer <Randy_...@newsguy.com>
wrote:

>In article <1117146915.2...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,

This certainly convinces me. We cannot afford $120,000, especially for
an executive director who might be in office only three months.

Sam Sloan

Mike Murray

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May 27, 2005, 10:36:54 AM5/27/05
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On Fri, 27 May 2005 09:45:58 +0200, Jürgen R. <jur...@web.de> wrote:


>Vector Marketing is a company that targets students nationwide to sell
>Cutco kitchen knives with in-home demonstrations. ...

>David Tatar, a supervisor with the Wisconsin Consumer Protection Dept.
>was quoted in 1996 by the Washington Post as saying "that state
>surveyed 940 Vector recruits in 1992 and found that almost half either
>earned nothing or lost money working for Vector" and "workers in that
>state earned less than $3 a day on average selling cutlery for
>Vector."
><end quote>

>etc. etc.

Jesus, we've hired the Fuller Brush Man.

StanB

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May 27, 2005, 11:21:38 AM5/27/05
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<parrt...@cs.com> wrote in message
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> I don't trust Randy Bauer in the least.

Why? he is probably the most straight-forward guy on the board.

> And I shall continue
> explaining what could be happening with that budding disaster: the
> new, small planned USCF building in Cross-to-Bear.

I think it might be more accuarate to write: ...small USCF planned building
...


StanB

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May 27, 2005, 11:28:03 AM5/27/05
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"Mike Murray" <mikem...@despammed.com> wrote in message
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> Jesus, we've hired the Fuller Brush Man.

Yea, visions of professor Harold Hill come to mind. Let's see if he wants to
start a band. A boy's band. That wouldn't be too swell.


Sam Sloan

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May 27, 2005, 12:03:58 PM5/27/05
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On Fri, 27 May 2005 14:18:44 GMT, sl...@ishipress.com (Sam Sloan)
wrote:

I just thought of a big advantage to the new Executive Director.

Since he is a high school teacher, this means that he does not work in
the months of June, July and August.

The problem with chosing an executive director now is that a new board
will take office in August. The new board might decide to re-open the
bidding and not build a new building in Crossville, especially if I am
elected.

At that point, our new executive director can decide to go back to
teaching high school and the USCF can move to a more suitable location
with no hard feelings or loss of income on either side.

Sam Sloan

ches...@aol.com

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May 27, 2005, 12:11:33 PM5/27/05
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The reason this man wasn't accepted wasn't money. We could have
certainly offered him less and he very well might have accepted. The
reason was that the majority of the Board favored Bill Hall. I hope I
am wrong and that they made a good choice and we should certainly give
him every chance to prove himself.

Don Schultz

Randy Bauer

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May 27, 2005, 12:48:58 PM5/27/05
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In article <1117210293....@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
ches...@aol.com says...

We may have offered him less money, sure, but he was already making $120,000 a
year. Do you really think he would have accepted the amount that Bill Hall
accepted? I think not and would suggest that you don't either, since you
yourself suggested raising money to pay the difference from chess benefactors.
Personally, I don't favor that approach. I think we should tailor the salary to
the job, and with our current operation, $120,000 is just not supportable.

Randy Bauer

ches...@aol.com

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May 27, 2005, 1:41:01 PM5/27/05
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Randy Bauer said:

Randy Bauer said:

"We may have offered him less money, sure, but he was already making
$120,000 a
year. Do you really think he would have accepted the amount that Bill
Hall
accepted? I think not and would suggest that you don't either, since
you
yourself suggested raising money to pay the difference from chess
benefactors.
Personally, I don't favor that approach. I think we should tailor the
salary to
the job, and with our current operation, $120,000 is just not
supportable."

Yes, $120,000 is not supportable but that was NOT the reason this man
was rejected.

Don Schultz


Don Schultz

Sam Sloan

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May 27, 2005, 1:57:44 PM5/27/05
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On 27 May 2005 09:48:58 -0700, Randy Bauer <Randy_...@newsguy.com>
wrote:

>In article <1117210293....@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,

I completely agree wiuth Randy Bauer this time.

Sam Sloan

Randy Bauer

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May 27, 2005, 1:58:36 PM5/27/05
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In article <1117215661.1...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
ches...@aol.com says...

Actually, Don is being very restrained in this discussion, and I appreciate
that. As he knows -- and has not brought up -- I also spoke in favor of the
candidate he supported. However, unlike Don, I thought both candidates were
qualified and could do a good job.

That said, I see no way that we could have gotten the other candidate for less
than $100,000, and I'm uncertain whether that would have been sufficient. I
have my doubts that the USCF executive director position is, as it currently
stands, worthy of a six figure salary.

As to Don's point that the individual was rejected for reasons not to do with
salary: I recall one of the Board members mentioning at the meeting in Berkeley
that we could not afford him. However, I think he hurt his chances this time by
coming across as arrogant and unresponsive to questions. I believe he turned
off at least two Board members based on this second interview. As Don knows, I
had to basically apologize for his poor interview while still supporting him.
As a consequence, I'm not surprised he didn't get the job.

Randy Bauer
>
>Don Schultz
>

parrt...@cs.com

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May 28, 2005, 1:16:10 AM5/28/05
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GIVE THE GUY A CHANCE

I say give this poor bastard Hall a chance to follow orders
intelligently and to show he can influence those orders by being
suitably independent as a successful executive director must be.

This discussion over "tenure" for a public high school teacher is
meaningless. If the guy is smart, he will overcome having an MA in
Education, which is the degree of the brain dead. If the guy is smart
he will show us that he never belonged in an American public school to
begin with. I assume that he has jumped out of the public school fire
into the USCF fryng pan.

They hired him. Period. We will have plenty of chances in a few months
to horsewhip him after the style of those Regency bucks of the 1820s.
For the time being, I intend to leave him alone even as I attack the
decisions and direction of the Board majority.

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