Turkish Women Dissed?
ChessFire
formally responded yet. Therefore, let's not jump into any conclusion
until all the facts are available. I will post the response from the
organizers as soon as I have it.
Scandal in Turkey
This letter was yesterday sent to FIDE, Ilyumzhinov and Gelfer.
Dear Mr. President,
I write to you with great concern following what seems as a serious
incident that occurred. Today during the closing ceremony of the world
junior championships held in Turkey. Happily our girl junior player,
Marcel Efroymsky, has won the world title and the gold medal. As
costumed in such events, the delegations prepared to stand and salute
the national anthem of the winner's country.
Astonishingly and without any warning, the organizers decided to
cancel the playing of the winners anthem . The Turkish organization
has offered a ridiculous explanation that they do not have the time to
spend on such event.
This excuse is absurd in light of the same venue hosting this event
two years ago where all winner anthems were played! In there actions,
the organizers demonstrated disrespect to the junior winners, their
federation and their countries.
As chairman of the Israeli chess federation, I herby urge you to
investigate this incident. I must say that this kind of boycott (if
such occurred) strikes as a another example of how politics interferes
with chess. I call you as president of the FIDE, for which the
tournament carried your flag, to investigate this issue and if the
information appeared to be accurate, then to denounce this
disrespectful conduct if the information.
My feeling is, that such events hurt chess in general and send the
wrong message the children who dream to become chess champions taking
pride in representing their countries.
Yours truly,
Aviv Bushinsky
Chairman of the Israeli chess Federation
Taylor Kingston
Based on this letter, shouldn't the subject heading be "Israeli
Player Dissed by Turkey"?
None
wrote:
"Based on this letter, shouldn't the subject heading be "Israeli
Player Dissed by Turkey"?"
ChessFraud asked me to respond to your statement:
He did in another issue but we must take into account that other if
you would just pay attention you would know and not have to make such
a bizarre accusation because he didn't state it before you see/saw.
Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)
wrote:
It's rather
"Israel and Israeli junior world champion offended by Turkey"
Wlod
Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)
Or still more precise:
"Turkey discriminates against Israel and Israeli junior world
champion"
Wlod
Offramp
> As
> costumed in such events,
"As customary in such events..."
It should be "Turkey shows huge disrespect to Israeli players..."
SAT W-7
Did you hear the interview with the director of the new movie 20I2 ,
the movie has the world pretty much blowing up .. He has stuff from
around the world but not the site of the big black cube they walk around
because he said he did not want a Fatwa put on his head ....
Those people do not under stand it is just a movie ......
he has a lot of Western and Christian stuff getting destroyed but no
muslim .....
Taylor Kingston
That's OK. They blew up enough Muslims in "Team America: World
Police."
madams
.
> > > On Nov 23, 2:37 pm, ChessFire <onech...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > I would like to note that the Turkish Chess Federation has not
> > > > formally responded yet. Therefore, let's not jump into any conclusion
> > > > until all the facts are available.
> Or still more precise:
>
> "Turkey discriminates against Israel and Israeli junior world
> champion"
>
> Wlod
Might be Bull-shinsky !
...
SAT W-7
Went to the chess mall today and played a good game up until i made a
bad move and ended up losing the game..
I sacrificed my bishop for a pawn opening up the King and i had lots of
pressure on him but he played good defense then came my knight move and
i hit my clock and that was the bad move that ended up costing me the
game.
I lost a WON game ......I hate that because i rarley ever win there ...
Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)
Going back to the topic of this thread:
SAT W-7, you're such a turkey.
Wlod
SAT W-7
Hey Wold how did you like it when Obama threw Poland under the bus and
cut the missile defence system ? Personally i hated it..
I wish Poland would build their own because i do not like Russia , i
assume you do not either.
What was it like growing up their under the thumb of the Russian Bear ?
Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)
> I was talking to Mr K , not you Wold ..But hey that is OK ....
Indeed, next time keep your private shit private.
You talk like a Soviet tank went over your poor brainy.
(Did you ever had one? No, not a tank!)
Wlod
SAT W-7
private id send it to Mr K's personal e mail.....I do not care who
reads it..
I ask you a serious question and you can not answer it...
I am with you on not liking Russia , i do not like them now ..
Did you see the large French transport ship that pulled into a
Russian port ? Troop carrier for the Black Sea Fleet , they are
thinking of buying a few of them..Russian nabbers are worried about that
..
Well Mr Wold have a nice Thanksgiving , and every one else too........
when i look into the eyes of Mr Putin i see 3 letters , KGB........
madams
>
> Obviously what i talk about is not private because if i wanted it
> private id send it to Mr K's personal e mail.....I do not care who
> reads it..
Hey Frank ! when you get a real-computer you can "plonk" people too :)))
.......
parrt...@cs.com
TURKISH REPLY
Dear ChessBase,
2009 World Youth Chess Championships, were organised in Antalya with
very good conditions. We did not get any complaint for the event – on
the contrary we got much positive feedbacks.
Let me explain you that in the 2009 World Youth Chess Championships
closing ceremony, after consultation with FIDE authorities in Antalya
in advance, a long time before the final round, we decided not to play
any national anthems. You should understand that, as you mentioned on
your website, twelve anthems would last at least 50 minutes, and
considering the very young players and many guests it would have been
torture to them.
So no anthems were played, not even the national anthem of Turkey, or
the anthem of FIDE.
Today when I read your website, and this scandalous letter of ICF, I
was shocked. This kind of news may get attention, but it does not
contribute to our eminent sport. On the contrary, such as approach can
only help to get politics into chess, which all we are afraid and very
far. We had always excellent relations with Israel Chess Federation
without any problem, we do not share the comment on the official
protest of their chairman. We think that also that scandalous letter
does not have any base on the board of Israel Chess Federation. We
will make official explanation to related diplomatic missions.
However, I should say that by listening a parent, and not a good
friend, the chairman of Israel Chess Federation went very far passing
all limits. That is a shame for chess which tries to make world a
peaceful place.
Best regards,
Ali Nihat YAZICI
President
SAT W-7
I belive at the Olympics they just play the gold medal winners anthem ..