Can "Help Bot" beat the stronger Baby level [2 sec/move] now?
Sanny
Today as I promised last year (Dec 2009) that I will be giving good
news about GetClub, As I have a few ideas to improve GetClub Chess.
I used 80% of my new ideas and now GetClub plays 3-4 times stronger
moves.
GetClub now finds same moves by thinking in "4 times" less time. Here
is a sample game played against Jester.
Jester at [30 sec / move] Vs Baby Level at [2 sec / move].
The game was a good fight. GetClub got its queen trapped by knight &
bishop. There was no way to escape from the trap. This game was played
very nicely by GetClub. Despite being Queen down it tried to protect
itself till 45th move.
White: Jester [30 sec/move]
Black: GetClub - Baby Level [2 sec/move]
Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
1.e2-e4 c7-c6
2.d2-d4 d7-d5
3.e4xd5 c6xd5
4.c2-c4 Ng8-f6
5.Nb1-c3 e7-e6
6.a2-a3 Nb8-c6
7.c4-c5 Bc8-d7
8.Ng1-f3 Bf8-e7
9.Bf1-d3 Ke8-g8
10.Ke1-g1 Qd8-c7
11.Rf1-e1 Nf6-g4
12.h2-h3 Ng4-f6
13.b2-b4 Ra8-c8
14.b4-b5 Nc6xd4
15.Nf3xd4 Be7xc5
16.Nd4-e2 Qc7-e5
17.Bc1-f4 Qe5-h5
18.Qd1-d2 Kg8-h8
19.Nc3-a4 Bc5-e7
20.Bf4-e3 b7-b6
21.Ne2-f4 Qh5-h4
22.g2-g3 Qh4-g5
23.Nf4-g6+ Qg5xg6
24.Bd3xg6 h7xg6
25.Na4-c3 Be7-c5
26.Be3xc5 Rc8xc5
27.a3-a4 Rf8-c8
28.Ra1-c1 Rc5-c4
29.f2-f4 Rc8-c5
30.Qd2-b2 Kh8-g8
31.Re1-d1 Kg8-f8
32.Kg1-h2 Nf6-h5
33.Qb2-a3 Nh5-f6
34.Nc3-e2 Rc4xc1
35.Rd1xc1 Nf6-e4
36.Rc1xc5 b6xc5
37.Ne2-c3 Ne4xc3
38.Qa3xc5+ Kf8-e8
39.Qc5xc3 Ke8-e7
40.Qc3xg7 Bd7-e8
41.Qg7-d4 a7-a6
42.Qd4-c5+ Ke7-d8
43.Qc5-d6+ Be8-d7
44.b5-b6 a6-a5
45.b6-b7
Below is the Analysis of the game by Baby Level giving scores & time
taken for each move.
Game Played between Jester [30 sec/move] and baby Level [2 sec/move]
at GetClub.com
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Jester [30 sec/move]: (White)
baby [2 sec/move]: (Black)
Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM55246&game=Chess
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White -- Black
(Jester [30 sec/move]) -- (baby [2 sec/move])
[ Analyse by higher Level: http://www.GetClub.com/Analyze.php?id=1768
]
Analysed by Baby Level: (E): Excellent move, (G): Good move, (B): Bad
move
White move stats: (E): 26, (G): 7, (B): 12 Quality Marks[%]: 60.0%
Black move stats: (E): 42, (G): 1, (B): 2 Quality Marks[%]: 90.0%
Best Move - White: 37. Ne2-c3, Black: 44 ... Pa6-a5
Worst Move - White: 23. Nf4-g6,Black: 34 ... Rc4xc1
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=> White(Time1) Black(Time2) . . . . . [Best-White(Score1) Best-Black
(Score2)]
=> Original Moves White/ Black . . . . . [Best Moves with Scores
White/ Black]
1. Pe2-e4(2) Pc7-c6(0) . . . . . [1. (E) Nb1-c3(-0.53) (E) Pd7-d6
(-0.53)]
2. Pd2-d4(10) Pd7-d5(0) . . . . . [2. (E) Nb1-c3(-0.35) (E) Ng8-f6
(-1.16)]
3. Pe4xd5(6) Pc6xd5(0) . . . . . [3. (E) Pe4xd5(-0.55) (E) Qd8xd5
(-1.55)]
4. Pc2-c4(6) Ng8-f6(0) . . . . . [4. (E) Nb1-c3(-0.78) (E) Pd5xc4
(-0.64)]
5. Nb1-c3(6) Pe7-e6(0) . . . . . [5. (E) Nb1-c3(-0.8) (E) Nf6-e4
(-0.52)]
6. Pa2-a3(6) Nb8-c6(4) . . . . . [6. (E) Ng1-f3(-0.73) (E) Nb8-c6
(-0.1)]
7. Pc4-c5(38) Bc8-d7(0) . . . . . [7. (E) Ng1-f3(-0.23) (E) Bc8-d7
(-0.6)]
8. Ng1-f3(32) Bf8-e7(10) . . . . . [8. (E) Ng1-f3(-0.76) (E) Nf6-e4
(-0.43)]
9. Bf1-d3(56) Ke8-g8(0) . . . . . [9. (E) Bc1-f4(-1.22) (E) Ke8-g8
(-1.53)]
10. Ke1-g1(32) Qd8-c7(4) . . . . . [10. (E) Ke1-g1(-0.76) (E) Qd8-c7
(-0.5)]
11. Rf1-e1(38) Nf6-g4(0) . . . . . [11. (E) Bc1-e3(-0.4) (E) Nf6-g4
(-0.49)]
12. Ph2-h3(38) Ng4-f6(2) . . . . . [12. (G) Bc1-g5(0.26) (E) Ng4-f6
(-0.64)]
13. Pb2-b4(38) Ra8-c8(6) . . . . . [13. (G) Bc1-g5(-0.21) (E) Ra8-c8
(-0.68)]
14. Pb4-b5(42) Nc6xd4(4) . . . . . [14. (G) Bc1-g5(0.12) (E) Nc6xd4
(-2.21)]
15. Nf3xd4(40) Be7xc5(0) . . . . . [15. (E) Nf3xd4(0.57) (E) Be7xc5
(-0.68)]
16. Nd4-e2(40) Qc7-e5(0) . . . . . [16. (G) Nd4-b3(0.72) (E) Qc7-e5
(-1.84)]
17. Bc1-f4(40) Qe5-h5(0) . . . . . [17. (E) Bc1-f4(1.18) (E) Qe5-h5
(-1.28)]
18. Qd1-d2(40) Kg8-h8(0) . . . . . [18. (E) Ra1-a2(1.16) (E) Kg8-h8
(-2.47)]
19. Nc3-a4(42) Bc5-e7(2) . . . . . [19. (E) Bf4-g5(1.08) (E) Bc5-e7
(-1.42)]
20. Bf4-e3(40) Pb7-b6(0) . . . . . [20. (E) Na4-b2(1.24) (E) Pb7-b6
(-1.4)]
21. Ne2-f4(38) Qh5-h4(2) . . . . . [21. (B) Na4-b2(1.1) (E) Qh5-h4
(-1.54)]
22. Pg2-g3(38) Qh4-g5(2) . . . . . [22. (B) Na4-b2(1.32) (E) Qh4-g5
(-1.4)]
23. Nf4-g6(40) Qg5xg6(2) . . . . . [23. (B) Na4-b2(3.2) (E) Qg5xg6
(-4.77)]
24. Bd3xg6(2) Ph7xg6(6) . . . . . [24. (E) Bd3xg6(3.73) (E) Ph7xg6
(-3.76)]
25. Na4-c3(120) Be7-c5(0) . . . . . [25. (E) Qd2-b2(3.1) (E) Be7-c5
(-4.38)]
26. Be3xc5(42) Rc8xc5(0) . . . . . [26. (E) Be3xc5(2.66) (E) Rc8xc5
(-3.5)]
27. Pa3-a4(78) Rf8-c8(0) . . . . . [27. (B) Qd2-d4(3.46) (E) Rf8-c8
(-3.84)]
28. Ra1-c1(64) Rc5-c4(0) . . . . . [28. (E) Ra1-c1(2.46) (E) Rc5-c4
(-3.34)]
29. Pf2-f4(44) Rc8-c5(4) . . . . . [29. (B) Pa4-a5(2.95) (E) Rc8-c5
(-3.24)]
30. Qd2-b2(56) Kh8-g8(4) . . . . . [30. (B) Re1-e5(3.5) (E) Kh8-g8
(-4.42)]
31. Re1-d1(42) Kg8-f8(4) . . . . . [31. (E) Nc3-e2(2.84) (E) Kg8-f8
(-4.2)]
32. Kg1-h2(42) Nf6-h5(22) . . . . . [32. (B) Nc3-e2(3.5) (E) Rc5-c8
(-3.82)]
33. Qb2-a3(42) Nh5-f6(0) . . . . . [33. (G) Qb2-b3(3.36) (E) Nh5-f6
(-3.31)]
34. Nc3-e2(42) Rc4xc1(2) . . . . . [34. (B) Qa3-a1(3.88) (B) Rc4xc1
(-3.46)]
35. Rd1xc1(48) Nf6-e4(4) . . . . . [35. (B) Ne2xc1(3.84) (E) Nf6-e4
(-3.7)]
36. Rc1xc5(50) Pb6xc5(0) . . . . . [36. (G) Rc1xc5(3.86) (E) Pb6xc5
(-8.33)]
37. Ne2-c3(42) Ne4xc3(0) . . . . . [37. (E) Qa3-e3(4.94) (E) Ne4xc3
(-4.86)]
38. Qa3xc5(42) Kf8-e8(0) . . . . . [38. (B) Qa3xc3(5.81) (E) Kf8-e8
(-5.94)]
39. Qc5xc3(42) Ke8-e7(0) . . . . . [39. (E) Qc5xc3(5.32) (E) Ke8-e7
(-5.82)]
40. Qc3xg7(46) Bd7-e8(0) . . . . . [40. (G) Qc3-c5(5.9) (E) Bd7-e8
(-6.03)]
41. Qg7-d4(42) Pa7-a6(0) . . . . . [41. (B) Pg3-g4(6.66) (G) Pa7-a5
(-6.52)]
42. Qd4-c5(38) Ke7-d8(0) . . . . . [42. (E) Qd4-c5(6.14) (E) Ke7-d8
(-6.35)]
43. Qc5-d6(32) Be8-d7(0) . . . . . [43. (B) Qc5-d6(6.98) (B) Be8-d7
(-6.56)]
44. Pb5-b6(8) Pa6-a5(4) . . . . . [44. (E) Qd6xa6(5.06) (E) Pa6-a5
(-104.82)]
45. Pb6-b7(6) Bd7xa4(0)
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Jester [30 sec/move]: (White)
baby [2 sec/move]: (Black)
Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM55246&game=Chess
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Do you feel now GetClub playing very strong moves?
I have a few more ideas that will make GetClub even more stronger.
I hope I am able to improve GetClub Chess a bit more with the new
ideas.
Now Baby Level will give tough competition to Strong players.
I have doubt if "Help Bot" & "Taylor Kingston" are able to defeat the
Baby level [2 sec/move] or not.
Where is Help Bot. I am missing his games at GetClub Chess.
Please analyze this game and let me know how to improve GetClub game
further, So that it avoids the Traps Just like the Queen trap in the
above game.
Bye
Sanny
Sanny
I have analyzed this game with Baby Level. But I want it analyzed by
stronger engines as well Like: Fritz/ Rybka
Bye
Sanny
Simon Krahnke
> I have analyzed this game with Baby Level. But I want it analyzed by
> stronger engines as well Like: Fritz/ Rybka
Then, why don't you do it?
mfg, simon .... l
Sanny
> > stronger engines as well Like: Fritz/ Rybka
>
> Then, why don't you do it?
I will soon, I played a game between Easy Level and Fritz[5 sec /
move] and Fritz won in 20 moves only.
I have corrected the problem of posting wrong moves.
Now, When a move is posted twice. It will disconnect your game So that
you restart the game and the game is recorded properly.
Why it happens in your game that a Move is recorded twice.
Are you playing 2 instances of the same program on your computer. Are
you doing some experiments?
I find games of others are recorded correctly. It happens only on your
system.
I hope the problem is partially solved as now the game will be
disconnected when a move is recorded twice.
Play a game with Rybka Let me know how Rybka [1 sec / move] plays
against the Easy Level?
Bye
Sanny
chip...@gmail.com
thousands of times better than in the beginning if you concatenate all
your claims), it still loses to a second tier engine like Jester?
micky
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This is suitable work for the bonded-class
Sanny (The Towel)... is Brahmin ! ........
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Simon Krahnke
>>> I have analyzed this game with Baby Level. But I want it analyzed by
>>> stronger engines as well Like: Fritz/ Rybka
>>
>> Then, why don't you do it?
>
> I will soon, I played a game between Easy Level and Fritz[5 sec /
> move] and Fritz won in 20 moves only.
>
> I have corrected the problem of posting wrong moves.
>
> Now, When a move is posted twice. It will disconnect your game So that
> you restart the game and the game is recorded properly.
No, your applet talks to your server via http get operations on every
move. When the server doesn't like the move, it answers "error" and your
applet somehow deals with that.
> Are you playing 2 instances of the same program on your computer. Are
> you doing some experiments?
No, I start Getclub the regular quirky way. It's your applet that sends
some moves twice.
> I find games of others are recorded correctly. It happens only on your
> system.
How do you know that?
mfg, simon .... l
Sanny
>
> > Now, When a move is posted twice. It will disconnect your game So that
> > you restart the game and the game is recorded properly.
>
> No, your applet talks to your server via http get operations on every
> move. When the server doesn't like the move, it answers "error" and your
> applet somehow deals with that.
I think, now you are not facing this problem. Now you can complete the
game without errors.
Are you still facing problems in playing at GetClub Chess?
Bye
Sanny
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
Simon Krahnke
>>> I have corrected the problem of posting wrong moves.
>>>
>>> Now, When a move is posted twice. It will disconnect your game So that
>>> you restart the game and the game is recorded properly.
>>
>> No, your applet talks to your server via http get operations on every
>> move. When the server doesn't like the move, it answers "error" and your
>> applet somehow deals with that.
>
> I think, now you are not facing this problem. Now you can complete the
> game without errors.
>
> Are you still facing problems in playing at GetClub Chess?
Of course. It just ends the game, when it is supposed to be winning, it
sometimes lamely gives up on the last instant, there are no real timing
constraints, no chance to do automatic interengine-play, and the ugly
website keeps popping up new windows, when one should be enough.
The most annoying pop-up is the last one, it's totally irrelevant to the
game, which shows up on the previous window. That actually took me some
time to notice.
mfg, simon .... l