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Rolf Tueschen

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Oct 30, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/30/97
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alth...@mipool.uni-jena.de (Ingo Althoefer) wrote:

>Have some patience. You can not expect to get a perfect forum within a few
>days.

Of course, especially because there is no such thing like a perfect
forum, you jerk. :)

>Ingo Althoefer.

>PS: Please, help to set up rec.games.chess.programmer .

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Oct 31, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/31/97
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So you are back to name calling eh. Rolf, true Popes don't behave this way.
They are benevolent. When they stop becoming benevolent, the unwashed
masses rise up against them. Remember that.
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Peter Herttrich

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Oct 31, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/31/97
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Rolf Tueschen <TUESCHEN.MEDIZ...@t-online.de> wrote:
: alth...@mipool.uni-jena.de (Ingo Althoefer) wrote:

: >Have some patience. You can not expect to get a perfect forum within a few
: >days.

: Of course, especially because there is no such thing like a perfect
: forum, you jerk. :)

Whow... welch weltbewegende Erkenntnis!
Nur was die Beleidigung am Ende soll, will mir nicht einleuchten.
Daran aendert auch der daemliche Smiley nichts.


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Andreas Mader

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Oct 31, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/31/97
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Peter Herttrich wrote:

> Rolf Tueschen <TUESCHEN.MEDIZ...@t-online.de> wrote:
> : alth...@mipool.uni-jena.de (Ingo Althoefer) wrote:
>
> : >Have some patience. You can not expect to get a perfect forum
> within a few
> : >days.
>
> : Of course, especially because there is no such thing like a perfect
> : forum, you jerk. :)
>
> Whow... welch weltbewegende Erkenntnis!
> Nur was die Beleidigung am Ende soll, will mir nicht einleuchten.
> Daran aendert auch der daemliche Smiley nichts.

I can only see two possibilities:

1) He _really_ thinks this is funny.
2) It is his normal way to communicate.

And this leads us back to the topic:
Why we currently need the Computer Chess Club News Board!

Andreas


Rolf Tueschen

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Oct 31, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/31/97
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Peter Herttrich <dh1...@inss1.etec.uni-karlsruhe.de> wrote:

>Rolf Tueschen <TUESCHEN.MEDIZ...@t-online.de> wrote:
>: alth...@mipool.uni-jena.de (Ingo Althoefer) wrote:

>: >Have some patience. You can not expect to get a perfect forum within a few
>: >days.

>: Of course, especially because there is no such thing like a perfect
>: forum, you jerk. :)

>Whow... welch weltbewegende Erkenntnis!
>Nur was die Beleidigung am Ende soll, will mir nicht einleuchten.

Which insult did you observe? :)

The problem is --- I can't always write 'impostor'.

But because you saw no special knowledge, let me explain. :)

It's a simple one. Please try to differentiate what IA *does* since his
early youth. Playing with chess computers. Then playing as operator with
combined multiple machines against human players...

Don't confuse that. This is absolutely ok. And Ingo did find a lot of
interesting details.

BUT.

And that's the other ugly side of the medal. IA seems to use his
academical title to pretend something more with his nice hobby activity
as if he -- the simple operator -- *is* the real good chessplayer.

Suddenly he jumps in here on rgcc to teach the world about *his* playing
against GMs. Lately he tooted that he could even help Deep Blue to play
better ....

But he never answered the simplest questions about the exact conditions
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
of his multi-brain operator experiments. The last event against a GM was

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
in the closet without a single watcher...

What he does is publishing his material in ICCAJ. Well, what
organisation the fishy ICCA really is with the actual officials, can
nowhere better be observed than in Paris at the actual WMCCC.

And who gets his head into that again? Our IA. He gets applause from
North to southpole for what? For receiving pieces of info-bits from Czub
by handy from the Bourse. Since then he posted important messages like.
"Thorsten didn't call yet. My secretary assured not to have received
one" or "I made clear that Stefan MK paid all the beer. I will give it
back to him..." (NB: Stefan is the scientifical slave called doctorand
of IA. :))

Folks, let's forget for a moment all the title blabla. Let's be
democratic and take Ingo's posts like everybody else's posts.
I would never had written a single commentary about them.

But as long as this jerk posts from the official server of the
university of Jena, and behaves like a pocket-sized expert, I've allowed
me to take a closer look at all the stupid crap he posts here on the
net.

Especially because he was the first last year to ask for emergency help
for a killing possibility of a certain poster...

This jerk who uses the university server acts in a mean political show
full of prepositions and undemocratical tendencies.

That is the reason why I attack him and his stupid postings.


Actually he acted again in a political cheat. Insinuating that this rgcc
is in danger wheras the ccc is the holy land. This is, as you yourself
have noticed, a lie. A censored forum could never be better than a free,
open, democratic one.

The only poster who ran away from rgcc in despair was Ed Schröder. Who
had insulted me as pig because I had attacked Czub for his nazi-like
postings. It was Schröder who went to Zwolle to receive a bloody nose in
his sueing attempt...

What is my mistake? That I had attacked Czub for nazi-like propagation?
That I wrote the truth about the liar Ed Schröder, author of REBEL??

Why did nobody analyse the reasons for my postings. Instead of
ridiculous attempts to censor me?

Why we had to create a censored forum? To protect nazis and their
supporters?

Did you want to make and support this statement?

>Daran aendert auch der daemliche Smiley nichts.

Why is a friendly smiley "stupid"?
you wrote here more than once that you have now finished your studies. ?
Don't you see a way to discuss the topics itself? Are you only acting as
another political figure? To support this and to bash the other side?
How primitive. Why did you never post something out of your own
experience? :)


Anyway. Special friendly greetings

Rolf Tueschen

Rolf Tueschen

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Oct 31, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/31/97
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Andreas Mader <ma...@p6.gud.siemens.at> wrote:

>Peter Herttrich wrote:

>> Rolf Tueschen <TUESCHEN.MEDIZ...@t-online.de> wrote:
>> : alth...@mipool.uni-jena.de (Ingo Althoefer) wrote:
>>
>> : >Have some patience. You can not expect to get a perfect forum
>> within a few
>> : >days.
>>
>> : Of course, especially because there is no such thing like a perfect
>> : forum, you jerk. :)
>>
>> Whow... welch weltbewegende Erkenntnis!
>> Nur was die Beleidigung am Ende soll, will mir nicht einleuchten.

>> Daran aendert auch der daemliche Smiley nichts.

>I can only see two possibilities:

>1) He _really_ thinks this is funny.
>2) It is his normal way to communicate.

You seem to have forgotten your own mean act last year. Do you remember?
There you had to apologize in the end and then you left us for almost 2
months. Because you was ashamed that you had attacked me without a
reason.

I was the one who begged you to come back.

Now it seems as if you wanted to fight the old war again with new
material. How mean. And especially also wrong again.

You start your argument on the base that Althoefer and me had a normal
base of communication. Which is now completely without a reason destroid
by insultings like this. You are completely wrong again. We already had
a disturbed communication. Simply because I gave evidence for a lot of
spooky happenings in Ingo's brain-experiments. And he never gave
correction...

Since that time I take a closer look at his postings. And in that last
one I detected his tendency to censor again. And because he posts from
an university server playing games with his own titles, I wanted to make
clear what crap he really posted as university member...

What is wrong with that?

(But you're quite right assuming that it's also a lot of fun. :))

>And this leads us back to the topic:
>Why we currently need the Computer Chess Club News Board!

See that? You also try to favour the elitarian censored group. Because
you suppose that then you are really in sort of expert's paradise, no?

Did you ever think about the need of average people like me to let you
act like a real expert? Among real progrmmers for instance you have no
place at all, no? You are an expert on the base of your longer
experience in difference to the many newbies :) like me.

So I would recommend you to favor this group here. Here we need your
advice. No joke.

Wheras in a censored elitarian group you would be a nobody, no? We could
see this more than once when you discussed with Hyatt. First you see
something which seems to refutate his position, but then at the end you
usually leave the battlefield rather mute... :)

Don't take this as an offense. I like your style and would prefer much
more posts from your special view. About the different micros.


>Andreas


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