Good news: ...
Ingo Althoefer
Matthias Wuellenweber wrote:
>When the German magazine CSS wrote about a Hydra engine before
>christmas, it was pure bullshit and highly counter productive. CSS is
>for ChessBase a "loose cannon" - I learned that nice term recently in
>CCC. ...
Maybe, if we allow him to call it "K" instead of "c" Komputer Korner will
organize the awarding of "Loose Kannons of the week" ?
We might also allow him to give the title to himself from time to time ...
>The Junior engine for Fritz5 runs stable, fast and *devastatingly
>strong*. I expect it to go to the CD factory next week. It will be the
>first Fritz-engine to have its own specialized openings book!
This weekend I learned that not only Fritz5 but also other Engines (Fritz 4.01,
Doctor2.01, Hiarcs6) work under the annotation feature of Fritz. They seem all
to use the same dictionary, but the contents of their comments differ, depen-
ding on what the engines themselves find in the positions. I am just starting
to think about an application of the 3-Hirn principle to the annotation
outputs of different engines. Maybe a more or less simple human controlling
would lead already to annotations which might pass every Turing test...
For me this compatibility of the Fritz annotation feature with other engines
makes it a very hot contender for the 97 ICCA award for best automatic
annotations !
Now the question: Will the annotation feature also work with Junior ?
Ingo Althoefer.
Ingo Althoefer
Thorsten Czub wrote:
>Wuelle...@t-online.de (ChessBase GmbH) wrote:
>>When the German magazine CSS wrote about a Hydra engine before
>>christmas, it was pure bullshit and highly counter productive.
>Ahhhh ! Speaking out of my soul !
>Thans Matthias. The Editorial of CSS 5/97 was also counter-productive...
>>CSS is for ChessBase a "loose cannon" -
>...
>E.g. Karsten wrote a nice article about the championship, but in no
>word he wrote about the technical problems there.
>I know why not, in the same way liebert is brainwashed, Karsten is
>automatically PRO CSS brainwashed.
>...
I share your bad opinion on Christian Liebert. And in my eyes he is not only
biased but also incompetent. Sometimes it only helps to laugh about his strange
understanding of the ways chess programs are working...
However, Karsten Bauermeister is not in this category. For instance, when you
read his report on the Paris Championships carefully you will find lots of
detailed information, positive and negative ones, which were not given in the
CCC covering. And of course he is free to perceive certain events in a way
that is different from yours. I really like his report.
Ingo Althoefer.
mclane
alth...@mipool.uni-jena.de (Ingo Althoefer) wrote:
>However, Karsten Bauermeister is not in this category. For instance, when you
>read his report on the Paris Championships carefully you will find lots of
>detailed information, positive and negative ones, which were not given in the
>CCC covering. And of course he is free to perceive certain events in a way
>that is different from yours. I really like his report.
>Ingo Althoefer.
Look, the question is not if I like it or not. Karstens prefers to
write about the fact that ChessTiger was followed by 2 nice dark
colored beauties, he likes to tell us that Walter (Bannermann =
ANANSE) came together with his NICE daughter Sonja, he told us in
words and picture about the nice Estelle Giron, always trying to help
anybody in any kind of problems, he told us about Alexander Kure's
girl-friend Margo and their friend Magdalena. I am really wondering
why ? Is this a computer-chess tournament or the beauty-queen election
of paris ? Also his list is not complete. He forgot Mr.Gellner's nice
girl-friend and also the very friendly girl friend of the Woodpusher
programmer.
On the other hand he wrote about Peter as LONG JOHN SILVER (PETER) and
told us he had a motorbike accident. I have heard he fall to the floor
when he showed youngsters how to play soccer. Also he implied between
the sentences that the game between CST-Mchess was arranged.
I know better that this is not true. And Peter also, because he
thought he could win.
He also writes about the dinner in the eiffel-tower and in the bourse
in a very detailed way. I do not wonder why, I know Karstens
preferences for fast cars, young and beuatiful-looking girls and
masses of food.
These are very nice "detail" and his article is to be read very
sympathically, but I have the fear that in a few years
Karsten develops in another copy of Mr.Rehburg and his home-stories...
Please understand: Karsten can write whatever he wants, but the
contrast between the relevant information and the chauvinistic point
of view he choses is often very tough to stand for me.
Har...@t-online.de
quoting a mail from alth...@mipool.uni-jena.de
> >>When the German magazine CSS wrote about a Hydra engine before
> >>christmas, it was pure bullshit and highly counter productive.
>
> >Ahhhh ! Speaking out of my soul !
> >Thans Matthias. The Editorial of CSS 5/97 was also counter-productive...
>
> >>CSS is for ChessBase a "loose cannon" -
> >E.g. Karsten wrote a nice article about the championship, but in no
> >word he wrote about the technical problems there.
> >I know why not, in the same way liebert is brainwashed, Karsten is
> >automatically PRO CSS brainwashed.
> >...
>
> I share your bad opinion on Christian Liebert. And in my eyes he is not only
> biased but also incompetent. Sometimes it only helps to laugh about his
> strange understanding of the ways chess programs are working...
Right. I saw games in the disk service engine-vs-engine that obviously had
a bug for they weren't longer than 10 moves but were rated (1-0 or 0-1)!
These results were certainly taken for the standings in his
"tournament"... I asked him about this, and, what a wonder, he didn't
answer. :-)
Harald Faber
Karsten Bauermeister
Hi Thorsten,
its always the same thing! Someone tells you, that he likes the way you
write an article, (of course) another one will come an tell you exactly the
opposite! I always write articles, like I would like to read them.
Certainly, there is no other way. Even Günther Rehburg has his "Fans"!
So, I thank all the guys, who like my article and wrote this, but the other
ones are not really important, because they are not the readers of the
magezine, the article is written for.
Another point is: My notices about the feminen Parts in this tournament are
not chauvinistic. I like girls, of course...! And it's not a shame to feel
like that.
But I am ashame for forgetting another part of the Austrian team. I forget
mentioning Mrs Donninger, who was also there. Please forgive me, Chrilly!
I also forgot the nice girlfriend of Reinhold Gellner. Sorry for that, too.
Because up to this time I got no negative responses of the readers of the
magazine, I will go on writing in this way, although I am getting serious
with Thorstens point of view!
A little correction: I wrote, that Peter had an accident when playing
soccer. But Dieter Steinwender, publisher of CSS, "corrected" this ?! That
was not my fault!!
Another thing was, I DID NOT write, that the game between M-Chess and CS Tal
was arranged. When this came to your intention, I am sorry, but I only
wrote, that this programs playes a short game of 25 moves, in which end the
game became a draw, what nobody of the two operators gives an advantage.
Karsten Bauermeister
Har...@t-online.de
quoting a mail from car...@uni-muenster.de
> Hi Thorsten,
> its always the same thing! Someone tells you, that he likes the way you
> write an article, (of course) another one will come an tell you exactly the
> opposite!
Absolutely right.
> So, I thank all the guys, who like my article and wrote this, but the other
> ones are not really important, because they are not the readers of the
> magezine, the article is written for.
Oh, didn't you hear of constructive criticism?
> Another point is: My notices about the feminen Parts in this tournament are
> not chauvinistic. I like girls, of course...! And it's not a shame to feel
> like that.
Right, and it is not bad at all.
So this is no article only about the games. Good!
> A little correction: I wrote, that Peter had an accident when playing
> soccer. But Dieter Steinwender, publisher of CSS, "corrected" this ?! That
> was not my fault!!
Probably the motorbike-accident sounds more spectacular. :-)
> Karsten Bauermeister
Harald Faber
Andreas Mader
Har...@t-online.de wrote:
> quoting a mail from alth...@mipool.uni-jena.de
>
> > I share your bad opinion on Christian Liebert. And in my eyes he is
> not only
> > biased but also incompetent. Sometimes it only helps to laugh about
> his
> > strange understanding of the ways chess programs are working...
>
> Right. I saw games in the disk service engine-vs-engine that obviously
> had
> a bug for they weren't longer than 10 moves but were rated (1-0 or
> 0-1)!
> These results were certainly taken for the standings in his
> "tournament"... I asked him about this, and, what a wonder, he didn't
> answer. :-)
Approx. one page in the CSS article about Nimzo98 is simply a copy of
the online help. I must know this, because I wrote it. Now I'm waiting
for my money from Mr. Friedel or Mr. Steinwender... :)
Andreas
Rolf Tueschen
Andreas Mader <ma...@p6.gud.siemens.at> wrote:
>Approx. one page in the CSS article about Nimzo98 is simply a copy of
>the online help. I must know this, because I wrote it. Now I'm waiting
>for my money from Mr. Friedel or Mr. Steinwender... :)
__N o b o d y__ ever received money for an article or
quote in CSS. I had to know that. But KK, confirmed that too...
____A l l____ cooperators are poor and absolute amateurs.
See Tony Marsland, Robert Hyatt, Andreas Mader, to name only a few.
Hope that helps.
Greetings
Rolf Tueschen, Pope of All Free Contributors in Chess Publications
(AFCCP)
Karsten Bauermeister
Rolf Tueschen schrieb in Nachricht <66jnmp$jpi$3...@news01.btx.dtag.de>...
N O B O D Y ever got some money for writing an Article in CSS ?? And
espacially Y O U must know that?
Really interesting, that someone, who N E V E R wrote an article for this
magazine, ist so deeply informed.
I must tell you and all the others, that is completely wrong! Ever, I wrote
an article, I got some money.
E V E R Y B O D Y, who is assigned to write an article, gets a fee for that,
of course! So Andreas should ask sometimes more.... (or aren't you assigned
to write the manuel ?)
Karsten
Rolf Tueschen
"Karsten Bauermeister" <car...@uni-muenster.de> wrote:
>N O B O D Y ever got some money for writing an Article in CSS ?? And
>espacially Y O U must know that?
>Really interesting, that someone, who N E V E R wrote an article for this
>magazine, ist so deeply informed.
>I must tell you and all the others, that is completely wrong! Ever, I wrote
>an article, I got some money.
Good to know that. Let me explain my point. Which was by the way a
reason for another famous German author to feel/pretend insulted.
Here's the story.
I once read a page in EuropaRochade a ChessBase announcement with a
quote from Alan Tomalty. Also in CSS the same "on the internet well
known author" was mentioned.
My question here in rgcc to KK -- tongue in cheeck -- what, you too on
the payroll of CB? -- KK stated he never got a penny from ChessBase.
I was confused. So I asked pitters (Peter Schreiner) for information, if
for instance authors of longer reports woudn't get NO recompensation at
all for their important contributions. I have to admit that these
articles in the two mentioned mags were the only source for me before I
came by chance to this online service international newsgroup...
Now, hold yourself, I got never an answer by pitters. In reaction I
honoured his democratic policy with my Gold Medal for Best Communication
of the Week. Since that time comrade Czub finds it helpful to count
pitters as one of my many German enemies...
Although I did never do anything but trying to find out what you
helpfully stated now as a triviality. Funny.
But let me tell you this. The double "funny" is this: I got information
from a serious source, that no one gets paid for an article...
Now Karsten, please try to explain this apparently contradictious
situation. Public quotings of experts like Alan don't cost money??
Longer reports about new software, which costed the author many long
hours get no recompensation at all??
It's not the need to be informed about the _exact_ numbers. I want to be
informed which information was right and which was wrong? And why
pitters behaved as if he had to hide something dishonest?? At least you
are the first prominent author without this arrogance I could observe
many times in the last year. Here on usenet...
Greetings
Rolf Tueschen
Har...@t-online.de
quoting a mail from ma...@p6.gud.siemens.at
> > > I share your bad opinion on Christian Liebert. And in my eyes he is
> > not only
> > > biased but also incompetent. Sometimes it only helps to laugh about
> > his
> > > strange understanding of the ways chess programs are working...
> >
> > Right. I saw games in the disk service engine-vs-engine that obviously
> > had
> > a bug for they weren't longer than 10 moves but were rated (1-0 or
> > 0-1)!
> > These results were certainly taken for the standings in his
> > "tournament"... I asked him about this, and, what a wonder, he didn't
> > answer. :-)
>
> Approx. one page in the CSS article about Nimzo98 is simply a copy of
> the online help. I must know this, because I wrote it. Now I'm waiting
> for my money from Mr. Friedel or Mr. Steinwender... :)
> Andreas
Best computer chess magazine... ;-)))
A pity we don't have a competitor here in Germany. Should be a
"Marktluecke"...
Hope you're getting your money before Xmas 1998. :-)
Harald Faber
Komputer Korner
I never got paid for letting them publish my article on CM5000 version 1.
--
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Komputer Korner
The inkompetent komputer
If you see a 1 in my email address, take it out before replying.
Please do not email both me and the r.g.c.c. at the same time. I read all
the postings on r.g.c.c.
Karsten Bauermeister <car...@uni-muenster.de> wrote in article
<66lsh9$f...@majestix.uni-muenster.de>...
> Really interesting, that someone, who N E V E R wrote an article for this
> magazine, ist so deeply informed.
>
> I must tell you and all the others, that is completely wrong! Ever, I
wrote
> an article, I got some money.
>
mclane
"Karsten Bauermeister" <car...@uni-muenster.de> wrote:
>Hi Thorsten,
>its always the same thing! Someone tells you, that he likes the way you
>write an article, (of course) another one will come an tell you exactly the
>opposite! I always write articles, like I would like to read them.
And I have nothing against you writing whatever article you want to
write.
>Certainly, there is no other way. Even Günther Rehburg has his "Fans"!
I am not one of his fans (referring to his articles).
>So, I thank all the guys, who like my article and wrote this, but the other
>ones are not really important, because they are not the readers of the
>magezine, the article is written for.
???? The ones who do not like you article are not readers of the
magazin ??
The other ones are not important ?
I do not understand your point. Sorry.
>Another point is: My notices about the feminen Parts in this tournament are
>not chauvinistic. I like girls, of course...! And it's not a shame to feel
>like that.
??? Girls are not designed to get comments by you in a
computer-chess-article. Otherwise I would like to see comments of the
girls how they saw you in the next article. Maybe they can give
remarks for your best parts in the next edition ?
>But I am ashame for forgetting another part of the Austrian team. I forget
>mentioning Mrs Donninger, who was also there. Please forgive me, Chrilly!
aha ! As I said, it was NOT the fact that they are females and you are
a man.
>I also forgot the nice girlfriend of Reinhold Gellner. Sorry for that, too.
Right. Sorry for that...
>Because up to this time I got no negative responses of the readers of the
>magazine, I will go on writing in this way, although I am getting serious
>with Thorstens point of view!
I don't understand your sentence. Sorry.
>A little correction: I wrote, that Peter had an accident when playing
>soccer. But Dieter Steinwender, publisher of CSS, "corrected" this ?! That
>was not my fault!!
Dieter CORRECTED this ????
You wrote Peter had an accident when playing soccer and Dieter made
his famous "small changes" (others would call it censorship changes)
and made a motobike-accident out of it ? Brilliant !
This gives me some deeper insights and confirms to some of my major
prejudices.
>Another thing was, I DID NOT write, that the game between M-Chess and CS Tal
>was arranged. When this came to your intention, I am sorry, but I only
>wrote, that this programs playes a short game of 25 moves, in which end the
>game became a draw, what nobody of the two operators gives an advantage.
In the original sentence you said something like the 2 roommates
Thorsten and Peter got a 25th theory-line on the board. You did not
said that the 2 programs played this line !! I see a difference in the
sentences and would say this somehow implies indirectly that Thorsten
and Peter , not the 2 programs, have influenced the outcome of the
game. Do you see the difference when I say YOU played something on the
board and the 2 programs played this and that ?
But - as I said - it is not that important. And it has nothing to do
with you. If you would have written the article in Europa-Rochade you
would get my compliments and he would get my critics.
>Karsten Bauermeister
mclane
Har...@t-online.de wrote:
>> A little correction: I wrote, that Peter had an accident when playing
>> soccer. But Dieter Steinwender, publisher of CSS, "corrected" this ?! That
>> was not my fault!!
>Probably the motorbike-accident sounds more spectacular. :-)
Probably better results of Fritz5 sound also always more spectacular
:-)
Now I know how these strange good results of this program come into
the magazin. it is not chessBase or Frederics fault. It is the
imagination of Dieter. Oh men. In all the years I attacked the wrong
guys... :-)
mclane
Har...@t-online.de wrote:
>These results were certainly taken for the standings in his
>"tournament"... I asked him about this, and, what a wonder, he didn't
>answer. :-)
>Harald Faber
The normal way to answer people asking THESE KIND OF QUESTIONS you do,
is throwing them out of the organisation. :-)
mclane
Andreas Mader <ma...@p6.gud.siemens.at> wrote:
>Approx. one page in the CSS article about Nimzo98 is simply a copy of
>the online help. I must know this, because I wrote it. Now I'm waiting
>for my money from Mr. Friedel or Mr. Steinwender... :)
>Andreas
They have always a very very low budget. Most of the money is spent
for Frederics flights and the video-tapes he makes for ChessBase.
Sorry Andreas, but there will not much money be left for you, maybe 50
,- DM and the rest gets Karsten.
Maybe he will invite you to a dinner ?
mclane
TUESCHEN.MEDIZ...@t-online.de (Rolf Tueschen) wrote:
>Andreas Mader <ma...@p6.gud.siemens.at> wrote:
>__N o b o d y__ ever received money for an article or
>quote in CSS. I had to know that. But KK, confirmed that too...
This is a lie. I have still my checks. And you don't know anything !
KK cannot get anything. It is a computer. They don't need money.
Also I still have the taper where Dieter and Fred tell me about the
budget ! Very funny tapes.
Andreas Mader
Har...@t-online.de wrote:
> quoting a mail from ma...@p6.gud.siemens.at
>
> > > > I share your bad opinion on Christian Liebert. And in my eyes he
> is
> > > not only
... and so on.
I did NOT write this. As far as I know it was Thorsten Czub. Please
quote in a correct way.
Andreas
Andreas Mader
mclane wrote:
> TUESCHEN.MEDIZ...@t-online.de (Rolf Tueschen) wrote:
>
> >Andreas Mader <ma...@p6.gud.siemens.at> wrote:
>
> >__N o b o d y__ ever received money for an article or
> >quote in CSS. I had to know that. But KK, confirmed that too...
>
It seems to be a bad habit nowadays to quote incorrect. If you have
nothing to quote what I said then please let my name out. I did NOT
write that nobody ever got money for an article in CSS. Please quote in
a correct way.
Andreas
Rolf Tueschen
Andreas Mader <ma...@p6.gud.siemens.at> wrote:
>Har...@t-online.de wrote:
>> quoting a mail from ma...@p6.gud.siemens.at
>>
>> > > > I share your bad opinion on Christian Liebert. And in my eyes he
>> is
>> > > not only
>... and so on.
>I did NOT write this. As far as I know it was Thorsten Czub. Please
>quote in a correct way.
But Andy, please, Czub once told me that he is used to write with
different names/personalities. So I took you, Faber, Czedak,
Wuellenweber, Ossi and Tussi as reincarnations of the same guy in
question... Czub/madeleine...
He even tried to be *me* in an email he wrote to me under _your_ name.
Now could you please help to identify _your_ original identity? I think
this could bring us a step forward. "Are you living most of the year
more nothern or eastern to the Alpes." "Grandmother?" "A Polish
primaballerina?" "Slight squint?" "Abilities??" "Arian?!!?" "Chess ELO
_under_ 1600?" [...]
>Andreas
mclane
Har...@t-online.de wrote:
>Best computer chess magazine... ;-)))
>A pity we don't have a competitor here in Germany. Should be a
>"Marktluecke"...
There is "Rochade Europa" and it IS a competitor, it has computerchess
+ chess (and also sometimes very weird stuff) and is pluralistic, has
more pages, more data and does not censor. It has a higher edition,
costs 1/3 of the CSS and is published 2x more than CSS. The reader
letters are not "selected" and the quality of the
computerchess-writers in Rochade-Europa is much higher.
So what ?
I would say it is
11:0 in points for Rochade-Europa.
I really don't how you can oversee this.
>Hope you're getting your money before Xmas 1998. :-)
I doubt this. Friedel has used the money for bying Kasparov some
lobbsters.
>Harald Faber
Har...@t-online.de
quoting a mail from mcl...@prima.ruhr.de
> Har...@t-online.de wrote:
> >> A little correction: I wrote, that Peter had an accident when playing
> >> soccer. But Dieter Steinwender, publisher of CSS, "corrected" this ?!
> >> That was not my fault!!
>
> >Probably the motorbike-accident sounds more spectacular. :-)
>
> Probably better results of Fritz5 sound also always more spectacular
> :-)
I admit I was sometimes amazed of Fritz' results in Bad Godesberg i.e. but
the latest tourneys aren't as good as one expected...
> Now I know how these strange good results of this program come into
> the magazin. it is not chessBase or Frederics fault. It is the
> imagination of Dieter. Oh men. In all the years I attacked the wrong
> guys... :-)
Learning a whole life... ;-)
Harald Faber
Har...@t-online.de
quoting a mail from mcl...@prima.ruhr.de
:-)
But I was not in his "organisation" :-)
So he probably threw it through the basket over the wastepaper-basket. :-)
A shame.
Harald Faber
Har...@t-online.de
quoting a mail from mcl...@prima.ruhr.de
> >Best computer chess magazine... ;-)))
> >A pity we don't have a competitor here in Germany. Should be a
> >"Marktluecke"...
> There is "Rochade Europa" and it IS a competitor, it has computerchess
> + chess (and also sometimes very weird stuff) and is pluralistic, has
> more pages, more data and does not censor. It has a higher edition,
> costs 1/3 of the CSS and is published 2x more than CSS. The reader
> letters are not "selected" and the quality of the
> computerchess-writers in Rochade-Europa is much higher.
> So what ?
It isn't exclusive for computerchess, the amount of pages for
computerchess are only few, the info isn't always as detailed etc. You can
compare Rochade Europa with SM64 but not with a computerchess magazine.
And the special game played and published by C.Carstens are a shame.
> I would say it is
> 11:0 in points for Rochade-Europa.
> I really don't how you can oversee this.
I know and read it, but often there is information missing about
computerchess.
> >Hope you're getting your money before Xmas 1998. :-)
> I doubt this. Friedel has used the money for bying Kasparov some
> lobbsters.
:-)
Harald Faber