some varied problems from atlanta appeals
Barry Rigal
Atlanta.
Since I know there are many people out there who like to consider the
implications of the appeals, and since most of the following come from the
Regional events --which were not written up, this may test everyone's
mettle.
There were 24 regional appeals. I'm only going to highlight challenging
decisions for the moment.
Pairs
Dlr: West
Vul: None
West
ªQJ5
©Q73
¨KQ65
§986
West North East South
Pass Pass 1¨ 1©
2© (1) 4© Pass Pass
??
Is partner's pass forcing? What would you bid?
2. Teams
Dealer South Both Vul. You are East
ª A 7
© 10 8 6 5 3 2
¨ --
§ K J 8 5 2
West North East South
1ª
Pass 2ª 2NT Pass
3§ Pass ??
3.
Pairs
Dlr: West
Vul: Both
South
ª 7
© A K
¨ A 9 8 7 4
§ K 10 9 6 4
West North East South
Pass Pass 2ª 3¨
4ª Pass Pass ??
4.
Dlr: East
Vul: EW
West
ªAJ106
©K1053
¨AJ6
§K3
West North East South
1NT(1) Dbl (2)
2ª (3) Pass 2NT(4) 3§ (5)
4§ (6) Pass 4¨ (7) Pass
4NT (8) Pass 5© (9) Pass
??
(1) 15-17 HCP
(2) minor one-suiter or both majors
(3) artificial size ask, usually minor suit oriented hand
(4) minimum
(5) confirms club one-suiter
(6) Gerber
(7) 0 or 4 aces
(8) intended as natural sign off
(9) ??
Barry Rigal
Jon Siegel
> Pairs
> Dlr: West
>
> Vul: None
>
> West
>
> ªQJ5
>
> ©Q73
>
> ¨KQ65
>
> §986
>
> West North East South
>
> Pass Pass 1¨ 1©
>
> 2© (1) 4© Pass Pass
>
> ??
>
> Is partner's pass forcing? What would you bid?
In my system, the bid of 2 copyrights, after an opening bid of 1
quotation mark and an overcall of 1 copyright, is a transfer to section
symbol. Obviously you are playing something else. I might take a stab
at 5 quotation marks, but perhaps double would be safest.
David J. Grabiner
> I've just received a batch of hands on which to write commentaries from
> Atlanta.
>
> Since I know there are many people out there who like to consider the
> implications of the appeals, and since most of the following come from the
> Regional events --which were not written up, this may test everyone's
> mettle.
>
> There were 24 regional appeals. I'm only going to highlight challenging
> decisions for the moment.
(Suit symbols corrected to ASCII, and tables lined up; please make
Usenet postings in a monospaced font.)
> Pairs
> Dlr: West
>
> Vul: None
>
> West
>
> SQJ5
>
> HQ73
>
> DKQ65
>
> C986
>
>
>
> West North East South
>
> Pass Pass 1D 1H
>
> 2H (1) 4H Pass Pass
>
> ??
>
> Is partner's pass forcing? What would you bid?
The footnote is missing, but I assume 2H is a limit raise or better.
The pass is not forcing because E-W have not shown that they own the hand;
they were forced only to 2NT or 3D.
I pass, as I have just about what partner expects of me, and I don't
have the defensive values to expect to beat 4H.
> 2. Teams
> Dealer South Both Vul. You are East
>
>
> S A 7
>
> H 10 8 6 5 3 2
>
> D --
>
> C K J 8 5 2
>
>
>
> West North East South
>
> 1S
>
> Pass 2S 2NT Pass
>
> 3C Pass ??
Pass, as I don't have much extra for my vulnerable bid. Yes, I have six
hearts rather than five, but I don't have honors in the suit, and the
diamond void is less valuable than a spade void.
> 3.
>
> Pairs
> Dlr: West
>
> Vul: Both
>
> South
>
> S 7
>
> H A K
>
> D A 9 8 7 4
>
> C K 10 9 6 4
>
>
>
> West North East South
>
> Pass Pass 2S 3D
>
> 4S Pass Pass ??
Double and 5C are logical alternatives; I choose to double because this
hand is defensively oriented and has a good lead.
> 4.
>
>
> Dlr: East
>
> Vul: EW
>
> West
>
> SAJ106
>
> HK1053
>
> DAJ6
>
> CK3
>
>
>
>
>
> West North East South
>
> 1NT(1) Dbl (2)
>
> 2S (3) Pass 2NT(4) 3C (5)
>
> 4C (6) Pass 4D (7) Pass
>
> 4NT (8) Pass 5H (9) Pass
>
> ??
>
>
>
> (1) 15-17 HCP
>
> (2) minor one-suiter or both majors
>
> (3) artificial size ask, usually minor suit oriented hand
>
> (4) minimum
>
> (5) confirms club one-suiter
>
> (6) Gerber
>
> (7) 0 or 4 aces
>
> (8) intended as natural sign off
>
> (9) ??
I know that partner has misunderstood my bid, and I'll guess that he
took 4C as a cue-bid and 4NT as quantitative, so he accepted with 5H to
show slam interest and a heart suit. I have a great hand for a heart
slam, so I will bid 6H. 6NT is also a logical alternative, particularly
at pairs; no matter how partner has misinterpreted my bid (was 4NT
Blackwood?), 6NT is a reasonable contract, and it will probably outscore
6H if it makes.
--
David Grabiner, grab...@alumni.princeton.edu, http://remarque.org/~grabiner
Baseball labor negotiations FAQ: http://remarque.org/~grabiner/laborfaq.html
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Gerben Dirksen
> "Barry Rigal" <barry...@mindspring.com> writes:
>
> > I've just received a batch of hands on which to write commentaries from
> > Atlanta.
> >
> > Since I know there are many people out there who like to consider the
> > implications of the appeals, and since most of the following come from the
> > Regional events --which were not written up, this may test everyone's
> > mettle.
> >
> > There were 24 regional appeals. I'm only going to highlight challenging
> > decisions for the moment.
>
> (Suit symbols corrected to ASCII, and tables lined up; please make
> Usenet postings in a monospaced font.)
Thanks! I wouldn't know my copyrights from my quotations marks
otherwise.
> > Pairs
> > Dlr: West
> >
> > Vul: None
> >
> > West
> >
> > SQJ5
> >
> > HQ73
> >
> > DKQ65
> >
> > C986
> >
> >
> >
> > West North East South
> >
> > Pass Pass 1D 1H
> >
> > 2H (1) 4H Pass Pass
> >
> > ??
> >
> > Is partner's pass forcing? What would you bid?
>
> The footnote is missing, but I assume 2H is a limit raise or better.
Pass is not forcing, and I pass.
I consider double another logical alternative.
> > 2. Teams
> > Dealer South Both Vul. You are East
> >
> >
> > S A 7
> >
> > H 10 8 6 5 3 2
> >
> > D --
> >
> > C K J 8 5 2
> >
> >
> >
> > West North East South
> >
> > 1S
> >
> > Pass 2S 2NT Pass
> >
> > 3C Pass ??
You asked partner to choose. He chose. Happily passing now.
> > 3.
> >
> > Pairs
> > Dlr: West
> >
> > Vul: Both
> >
> > South
> >
> > S 7
> >
> > H A K
> >
> > D A 9 8 7 4
> >
> > C K 10 9 6 4
> >
> >
> >
> > West North East South
> >
> > Pass Pass 2S 3D
> >
> > 4S Pass Pass ??
>
> Double and 5C are logical alternatives; I choose to double because this
> hand is defensively oriented and has a good lead.
Double would be Take out so I can't bid that.
Logical alternatives are Pass and 5C. I bid 5C.
> > 4.
> >
> >
> > Dlr: East
> >
> > Vul: EW
> >
> > West
> >
> > SAJ106
> >
> > HK1053
> >
> > DAJ6
> >
> > CK3
> > West North East South
> >
> > 1NT(1) Dbl (2)
> >
> > 2S (3) Pass 2NT(4) 3C (5)
> >
> > 4C (6) Pass 4D (7) Pass
> >
> > 4NT (8) Pass 5H (9) Pass
> >
> > ??
> >
> >
> >
> > (1) 15-17 HCP
> >
> > (2) minor one-suiter or both majors
> >
> > (3) artificial size ask, usually minor suit oriented hand
> >
> > (4) minimum
> >
> > (5) confirms club one-suiter
> >
> > (6) Gerber
> >
> > (7) 0 or 4 aces
> >
> > (8) intended as natural sign off
> >
> > (9) ??
Looks like partner didn't understand my natural sign off and reasonably
took 4NT as ace asking, not 4C. Since I fear he won't pass 5NT at this
point, I'll bid 6NT and hope for the best.
Can I ask what I was thinking when I made bids (3) and (6)?
Gerben
vida
Barry Rigal wrote:
> I've just received a batch of hands on which to write commentaries from
> Atlanta.
>
> Since I know there are many people out there who like to consider the
> implications of the appeals, and since most of the following come from the
> Regional events --which were not written up, this may test everyone's
> mettle.
>
> There were 24 regional appeals. I'm only going to highlight challenging
> decisions for the moment.
>
> Pairs
> Dlr: West
>
> Vul: None
>
> West
>
> ªQJ5
>
> ©Q73
>
> ¨KQ65
>
> §986
>
>
>
> West North East South
>
> Pass Pass 1¨ 1©
>
> 2© (1) 4© Pass Pass
>
> ??
>
> Is partner's pass forcing? What would you bid?
I don't think it is.
I would double.
> 2. Teams
> Dealer South Both Vul. You are East
>
>
> ª A 7
>
> © 10 8 6 5 3 2
>
> ¨ --
>
> § K J 8 5 2
>
>
>
> West North East South
>
> 1ª
>
> Pass 2ª 2NT Pass
>
> 3§ Pass ??
3H. I cannot have too many points, and I cannot have hearts and
diamonds (I'd bid diamonds). Partner should get the message. As little
as the cA and 3 hearts gives me fair play for game, so I want to be
there.
> 3.
>
> Pairs
> Dlr: West
>
> Vul: Both
>
> South
>
> ª 7
>
> © A K
>
> ¨ A 9 8 7 4
>
> § K 10 9 6 4
>
>
>
> West North East South
>
> Pass Pass 2ª 3¨
>
> 4ª Pass Pass ??
This is tough. They are probably going off, but how do I double and
keep partner from bidding hearts, all at the same time?
I think I'll just pass here.
> 4.
>
>
> Dlr: East
>
> Vul: EW
>
> West
>
> ªAJ106
>
> ©K1053
>
> ¨AJ6
>
> §K3
>
>
>
>
>
> West North East South
>
> 1NT(1) Dbl (2)
>
> 2ª (3) Pass 2NT(4) 3§ (5)
>
> 4§ (6) Pass 4¨ (7) Pass
>
> 4NT (8) Pass 5© (9) Pass
>
> ??
>
>
>
> (1) 15-17 HCP
>
> (2) minor one-suiter or both majors
>
> (3) artificial size ask, usually minor suit oriented hand
>
> (4) minimum
>
> (5) confirms club one-suiter
>
> (6) Gerber
>
> (7) 0 or 4 aces
>
> (8) intended as natural sign off
>
> (9) ??
Too many missunderstandings.
The only sure way to close the auction now is 6NT, so that's what I'll
bid. And who knows? It might also make.
> Barry Rigal
Mike Preston
>Barry Rigal wrote:
>
>> Pairs
>> Dlr: West
>>
>> Vul: None
>>
>> West
>>
>> =AAQJ5
>>
>> =A9Q73
>>
>> =A8KQ65
>>
>> =A7986
>>
>> West North East South
>>
>> Pass Pass 1=A8 1=A9
>>
>> 2=A9 (1) 4=A9 Pass Pass
>>
>> ??
>>
>> Is partner's pass forcing? What would you bid?
>
>In my system, the bid of 2 copyrights, after an opening bid of 1
>quotation mark and an overcall of 1 copyright, is a transfer to section
>symbol. Obviously you are playing something else. I might take a stab
>at 5 quotation marks, but perhaps double would be safest.
Most play that 2 copyrights shows a limit raise or better in quotation
marks. I think that 5 quotation marks on a balanced hand invites
disaster. A double is only slightly less disastrous as 4 copyrights
is probably frigid. Pass seems best.
mike
Rik ter Veen
"Barry Rigal" <barry...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:toY2f.13521$q1....@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> I've just received a batch of hands on which to write commentaries from
> Atlanta.
>
> Since I know there are many people out there who like to consider the
> implications of the appeals, and since most of the following come from the
> Regional events --which were not written up, this may test everyone's
> mettle.
>
> There were 24 regional appeals. I'm only going to highlight challenging
> decisions for the moment.
>
> Pairs
> Dlr: West
>
> Vul: None
>
> West
>
> ªQJ5
>
> ©Q73
>
> ¨KQ65
>
> §986
>
>
>
> West North East South
>
> Pass Pass 1¨ 1©
>
> 2© (1) 4© Pass Pass
>
> ??
>
> Is partner's pass forcing? What would you bid?
No. I would pass.
>
> 2. Teams
> Dealer South Both Vul. You are East
>
>
> ª A 7
>
> © 10 8 6 5 3 2
>
> ¨ --
>
> § K J 8 5 2
>
>
>
> West North East South
>
> 1ª
>
> Pass 2ª 2NT Pass
>
> 3§ Pass ??
>
>
Pass (pretty obvious).
>
> 3.
>
> Pairs
> Dlr: West
>
> Vul: Both
>
> South
>
> ª 7
>
> © A K
>
> ¨ A 9 8 7 4
>
> § K 10 9 6 4
>
>
>
> West North East South
>
> Pass Pass 2ª 3¨
>
> 4ª Pass Pass ??
>
A little more complicated: Pass. If I would have considered this hand good
enough to play in 5m, I would have bid 4NT the previous round. Since "I"
didn't bid 4NT, I didn't think that it was good to force to 5m then and I
don't see what in the auction could change my mind. (Dbl is for take out, so
that is not an option either.)
>
> 4.
>
>
> Dlr: East
>
> Vul: EW
>
> West
>
> ªAJ106
>
> ©K1053
>
> ¨AJ6
>
> §K3
>
>
>
>
>
> West North East South
>
> 1NT(1) Dbl (2)
>
> 2ª (3) Pass 2NT(4) 3§ (5)
>
> 4§ (6) Pass 4¨ (7) Pass
>
> 4NT (8) Pass 5© (9) Pass
>
> ??
>
>
>
> (1) 15-17 HCP
>
> (2) minor one-suiter or both majors
>
> (3) artificial size ask, usually minor suit oriented hand
>
> (4) minimum
>
> (5) confirms club one-suiter
>
> (6) Gerber
>
> (7) 0 or 4 aces
>
> (8) intended as natural sign off
>
> (9) ??
>
>
It is clear that the wheels have come off, probably with my 4C bid. I'll
make the sensible bid: 6NT.
Rik
>
> Barry Rigal
>
>
Rik ter Veen
"Gerben Dirksen" <gerb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1129105780....@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
> > > 3.
> > >
> > > Pairs
> > > Dlr: West
> > >
> > > Vul: Both
> > >
> > > South
> > >
> > > S 7
> > >
> > > H A K
> > >
> > > D A 9 8 7 4
> > >
> > > C K 10 9 6 4
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > West North East South
> > >
> > > Pass Pass 2S 3D
> > >
> > > 4S Pass Pass ??
> >
> > Double and 5C are logical alternatives; I choose to double because this
> > hand is defensively oriented and has a good lead.
>
> Double would be Take out so I can't bid that.
> Logical alternatives are Pass and 5C. I bid 5C.
But wouldn't "you" have bid 4NT the previous round if "you" thought that you
wanted to force to 5m?
Rik
>
> Gerben
>
vida
Why? What are you afraid of if you bid 3 hearts *in this context*?
Gerben Dirksen
Rik ter Veen schrieb:
True but this "I" didn't know at that point that partner didn't have
many spades. If 4S is based on something other than insanity partner
will have at most 3 spades (but realistically only 2) and 5 hearts (no
weak two), thus having a fit in a minor, wheras when "I" bid 3D this
was not yet certain.
Gerben
Lorne
for suits.
"Barry Rigal" <barry...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:toY2f.13521$q1....@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> I've just received a batch of hands on which to write commentaries from
> Atlanta.
>
> Since I know there are many people out there who like to consider the
> implications of the appeals, and since most of the following come from the
> Regional events --which were not written up, this may test everyone's
> mettle.
>
> There were 24 regional appeals. I'm only going to highlight challenging
> decisions for the moment.
>
> Pairs
> Dlr: West
>
> Vul: None
>
> West
>
> ªQJ5
>
> ©Q73
>
> ¨KQ65
>
> §986
>
>
>
> West North East South
>
> Pass Pass 1¨ 1©
>
> 2© (1) 4© Pass Pass
>
> ??
>
> Is partner's pass forcing? What would you bid?
It is not forcing since it only shows the values to go to 3D. Pass and
double are possible so if partner hesitated I think I must pass.
>
> 2. Teams
> Dealer South Both Vul. You are East
>
>
> ª A 7
>
> © 10 8 6 5 3 2
>
> ¨ --
>
> § K J 8 5 2
>
>
>
> West North East South
>
> 1ª
>
> Pass 2ª 2NT Pass
>
> 3§ Pass ??
>
4C. I am surprised the oppo did not bid but I do not want to let them back
in now with 3S and it is still possible we can make 4H or 5C. 3H is
possible if partner can work out it shows C + H (I would bid 3D with D+H).
I presume West bid 3C slowly in which case I am not sure if 4C is still
allowed. I would not pass this hand but many others in this forum have so I
guess you can't bid if West hesitated.
>
> 3.
>
> Pairs
> Dlr: West
>
> Vul: Both
>
> South
>
> ª 7
>
> © A K
>
> ¨ A 9 8 7 4
>
> § K 10 9 6 4
>
>
>
> West North East South
>
> Pass Pass 2ª 3¨
>
> 4ª Pass Pass ??
Pass, 5C and double are possible. If North hesitated I think you have to
pass though you may justify 5C on the basis that you can't tell if partner
was about to double or bid 5D so your UI does not help if you intend to bid
whereas you obviously can't double as partner can pass or bid depending on
why he hesitated so the UI does help.
> 4.
>
>
> Dlr: East
>
> Vul: EW
>
> West
>
> ªAJ106
>
> ©K1053
>
> ¨AJ6
>
> §K3
>
>
>
>
>
> West North East South
>
> 1NT(1) Dbl (2)
>
> 2ª (3) Pass 2NT(4) 3§ (5)
>
> 4§ (6) Pass 4¨ (7) Pass
>
> 4NT (8) Pass 5© (9) Pass
>
> ??
>
>
>
> (1) 15-17 HCP
>
> (2) minor one-suiter or both majors
>
> (3) artificial size ask, usually minor suit oriented hand
>
> (4) minimum
>
> (5) confirms club one-suiter
>
> (6) Gerber
>
> (7) 0 or 4 aces
>
> (8) intended as natural sign off
>
> (9) ??
>
Pass and hope.
The fact that East bid over the 4N sign off makes it clear he thought it was
a continuation of Gerber or some asking bid so West can already deduce what
is going on even if 4N was alerted or some unnecessary question asked that
got a reply about 4N not being to play. I think any UI is irrelevant and
West should be able to use common sense and pass.
However if the UI allowed him to bid a NF 5N I would not allow it.
Lorne
news:434d3e79$0$744$5fc...@dreader2.news.tiscali.nl...
>
> "Barry Rigal" <barry...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:toY2f.13521$q1....@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>> I've just received a batch of hands on which to write commentaries from
>> Atlanta.
But you are missing 2 aces !
Rik ter Veen
"vida" <facun...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Rik ter Veen wrote:
> "Barry Rigal" <barry...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:toY2f.13521$q1....@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> >
> > 2. Teams
> > Dealer South Both Vul. You are East
> >
> >
> > S A 7
> >
> > H 10 8 6 5 3 2
> >
> > D --
> >
> > C K J 8 5 2
> >
> >
> >
> > West North East South
> >
> > 1S
> >
> > Pass 2S 2NT Pass
> >
> > 3C Pass ??
> >
> >
>
> Pass (pretty obvious).
* Why? What are you afraid of if you bid 3 hearts *in this context*?
How about a partner with a misfit and nothing useful (leading to 4C X -n) or
a partner with something useful (leading to 4H X -n or 6C X -n)?
You have more than shown your hand. Partner says he isn't interested in
anything. If you bid again, you show extra values. You don't have those, so
you pass.
Rik
>
>
> Rik
> >
> > Barry Rigal
> >
> >
Rik ter Veen
"Lorne" <Lorne_A...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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showed 2 aces and then 6NT might still be a good contract.
Rik
nige1
>> Suit symbols corrected to ASCII and tables
>> lined up; please make Usenet postings in a
>> monospaced font.
> There were 24 regional appeals. I'm only
> going to highlight challenging decisions
> for the moment.
> P (P ) 1D (1H)
> 2H (4H) P ( P)
> ? Pass Pass
> 1a. Is partner's pass forcing?
> 1b. What would you bid?
> 2. Teams Both S:A7 H:T86532 D- C:KJ852
> - - - (1S)
> P (3S) 2N (P)
> 3C ( P) ?
> 3. Pairs Both S:7 H:AK D:A9874 CKT964
> ( P) P (2S) 3D
> (4S) P ( P) ?
> 4. We vul S:AJT6 H:KT53 D:DAJ6 C:K3
> - - 1N ( X)
> 2S ( P) 2N (3C)
> 4C ( P) 4D ( P)
> 4N ( P) 5H ( P)
> ?
> 1N = 15-17 HCP
> X = Minor one-suiter or both majors
> 2S = Art size ask, usually minor suit oriented.
> 2N = Minimum
> 3C = Confirms club one-suiter
> 4C = Gerber
> 4D = 0 or 4 aces
> 4N = intended as natural sign off
[nige1] IMO ...
1a. If 2H is a UCB, then P is forcing; but if,
as is more likely, it promised D support, then
it isn't forcing
1b. P=10 X=3 5D=1
2. Delighted to have found what seems like a
playable resting spot. Hence P=10 3H=3.
3. I don't think 4S makes so X=10 5C=7 P=4
4. I seem to have the right cards in the
right place so 6H=10 P=7.
Adam Beneschan
> PS - Usenet posts get converted to ASCII so you have to use boring old SHDC
> for suits.
Not ASCII, exactly; more like ISO-8859-1. The problem is, I think,
that while the original ASCII only defined the meanings of characters
in the 0-127 range, Microsoft (or perhaps IBM?) came up with their own
characters to fill in the 128-255 range. Unfortunately (for them), the
official ISO standards went in a different direction when it assigned
characters to this range, so those Microsoft characters are
incompatible with everything else. The funny characters we're seeing
are actually the ISO-8859-1 characters assigned the same numeric values
that Microsoft assigned to the suit symbols.
Barry appears to be using Outlook Express to post. I don't know
anything about OE (in fact, I use a Linux host to post and read news),
so I'm wondering: Is there an option in Outlook Express to suppress
sending of the non-standard characters [and perhaps warn the user when
they're about to send something like that, so that they can go back and
edit]; or (even better) to convert them to ISO standard values (i.e.
Unicode, ISO-10646) so that newsreaders that know how to handle Unicode
can actually display these characters correctly? If so, that
information would be useful for those rgb'ers who use OE.
-- Adam
Herb
>
> ªQJ5
>
> ©Q73
>
> ¨KQ65
>
> §986
Semi-off topic reply:
What font are you using when you compose messages? I assume it has the
appropriate symbols in those non-standard locations?
- Herb
David Stevenson
>"Gerben Dirksen" <gerb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> > > 3.
>> > >
>> > > Pairs
>> > > Dlr: West
>> > >
>> > > Vul: Both
>> > >
>> > > South
>> > >
>> > > S 7
>> > >
>> > > H A K
>> > >
>> > > D A 9 8 7 4
>> > >
>> > > C K 10 9 6 4
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > West North East South
>> > >
>> > > Pass Pass 2S 3D
>> > >
>> > > 4S Pass Pass ??
>> >
>> > Double and 5C are logical alternatives; I choose to double because this
>> > hand is defensively oriented and has a good lead.
>>
>> Double would be Take out so I can't bid that.
>> Logical alternatives are Pass and 5C. I bid 5C.
>
>But wouldn't "you" have bid 4NT the previous round if "you" thought that you
>wanted to force to 5m?
No. When you make your first call in an auction you often have little
idea where you are going and it s normal bridge to allow for as many
alternatives as possible. Here you have a hand that will play
excellently in 4H or 3NT if partner has the right hand - and bidding 4NT
will make sure you do not reach either of those.
--
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Barry Rigal
i think you are right -- I apologised before, but what happened was that i
downloaded the ACBL file and iot looked fine to me -- only realized the
mistake when i sawe my sent maessage and got hate mail.
Will try to do better (but I've said that before)
Barry
"Adam Beneschan" <ad...@irvine.com> wrote in message
news:1129236628.5...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Barry Rigal
> >> Suit symbols corrected to ASCII and tables
> >> lined up;
> > There were 24 regional appeals. I'm only
> > going to highlight challenging decisions
> > for the moment.
> > 1. Pairs None S:QJ5 H:Q73 D:KQ65 C:986
> > P (P ) 1D (1H)
> > 2H (4H) P ( P)
> > ? Pass Pass
> > 1a. Is partner's pass forcing?
> > 1b. What would you bid?
some votes for FP. the player at the table doubled and collected 300 -facing
a 10-count. TD ruled pass forcing so player could do what he liked.
Overturned by panel.
> > 2. Teams Both S:A7 H:T86532 D- C:KJ852
> > - - - (1S)
> > P (2S) 2N (P)
> > 3C ( P) ?
At the table 2NT described as minors; player bid 3H and was raised to 4H. TD
let score stand. Panel gave a complex split score.
> > 3. Pairs Both S:7 H:AK D:A9874 CKT964
> > ( P) P (2S) 3D
> > (4S) P ( P) ?
Facing a slow pass the player bid 5C and played 5D* making. partner has an
automatic 5D call. TD ruled pass was an LA. The panel consulted peers who
all bid --so they had no option but to restore 5D.
(you can come to your own conclusions as to whether this is a rousing vote
in favor of the system!)
> > 4. We vul S:AJT6 H:KT53 D:DAJ6 C:K3
> > - - 1N ( X)
> > 2S ( P) 2N (3C)
> > 4C ( P) 4D ( P)
> > 4N ( P) 5H ( P)
> > ?
> > 1N = 15-17 HCP
> > X = Minor one-suiter or both majors
> > 2S = Art size ask, usually minor suit oriented.
> > 2N = Minimum
> > 3C = Confirms club one-suiter
> > 4C = Gerber
> > 4D = 0 or 4 aces
> > 4N = intended as natural sign off
> [nige1] IMO ...
Partner misexplained 4C; at the table West bid 6NT over 5H.
TD let score stand. As in (3) the players consulted came up with a disparate
collection of answers that persuaded the panel to force West to pass 5H....
no further comment necessary.
Barry Rigal