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Paul Hightower

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May 3, 2012, 11:40:49 AM5/3/12
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If this posts, I've successfully configured Outlook Express to work with
eternal-september.


Derek Turner

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May 4, 2012, 12:43:31 PM5/4/12
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On Thu, 03 May 2012 11:40:49 -0400, Paul Hightower wrote:

> If this posts, I've successfully configured Outlook Express to work with
> eternal-september.

Outhouse Distress? Now there's a blast from the past. Do you particularly
like viruses?

Paul Hightower

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May 4, 2012, 3:59:30 PM5/4/12
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"Derek Turner" <frd...@cesmail.net> wrote in message
news:a0if9i...@mid.individual.net...
I was using Google Groups, which was convenient becuase I could access this
newsgroup (and the one for Reds baseball) from any PC. However, Google has
become so flaky that I had to find an alternative, and someone here
mentioned that OE could be used as a newsreader. Before trying that I
remember downloading Grabbit or some such and it was not suitable.


Derek Turner

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May 5, 2012, 4:41:38 AM5/5/12
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On Fri, 04 May 2012 15:59:30 -0400, Paul Hightower wrote:

> someone here mentioned that OE could be used as a newsreader.

Just because it can be doesn't mean it should be :)

If you want an all-in-one, easy-to-configure email and usenet client for
windows then you could do a lot worse than Mozilla's Thunderbird. OE is
so full of security holes that even Microsoft has abandoned it. Opera's
suite is also highly regarded but not my personal choice.

Bertel Lund Hansen

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May 5, 2012, 11:22:05 AM5/5/12
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Derek Turner skrev:

> If you want an all-in-one, easy-to-configure email and usenet
> client for windows then you could do a lot worse than
> Mozilla's Thunderbird.

I do not like Thunderbird as usenet client. It is quite obvious
in several connections that it has been developed solely for
e-mail, and that the usenet part only was pasted on because of
heavy pressure from the user group.

I am not even happy with it as an e-mail client, but has found no
better alternative. I would use Agent version 1.93 if I could,
but there are moderne security issues that it cannot handle.

I much prefer Dialog for usenet.

--
Bertel, Denmark
http://bridge.lundhansen.dk/

Herb

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May 5, 2012, 7:33:40 PM5/5/12
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T-bird is more than adequate for text groups. The only minor drawback
I've found is that you can't delete newsgroup headers (although you can
delete e-mail).

Outlook Express' vulnerabilities lie mostly in its historically poor
protection of your address book. But if you're only using it for
newsgroups, it's actually somewhat better than Thunderbird in that it
can, albeit awkwardly, handle multi-part binary attachments.

- Herb

Bertel Lund Hansen

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May 6, 2012, 2:43:48 AM5/6/12
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Herb skrev:

> T-bird is more than adequate for text groups.

Not for me. It's been a while since I used it, so I don't
remember all its flaws, but a daily annoyance in my mail writing
sessions is that the text jumps uncontrollably while I'm editing
it. This means that unrelated lines are combined into one, and
this may result in quotes being mixed with my own text. This is
so bad that I have chosen to edit mails in Dialog (which can't
send them) and then copy the finished result into the Thunderbird
editor so I can send the mail.

Apart form that I do not want to have to do without Dialogs
automatic reformatting of a section.

Example:

Raw quote:

> The only minor drawback
> I've found is that you can't delete newsgroup headers (although you can
> delete e-mail).

Reformatted (mark section and press Ctrl-R)

> The only minor drawback I've found is that you can't delete
> newsgroup headers (although you can delete e-mail).


> newsgroups, it's actually somewhat better than Thunderbird in that it
> can, albeit awkwardly, handle multi-part binary attachments.

Binary attachments are of no use to me on usenet. No Danish
provider handles binary groups any more - and good riddance.

Steve Foster

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May 6, 2012, 5:12:23 AM5/6/12
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Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:

> Herb skrev:
>
> > T-bird is more than adequate for text groups.
>
> Not for me. It's been a while since I used it, so I don't
> remember all its flaws, but a daily annoyance in my mail writing
> sessions is that the text jumps uncontrollably while I'm editing
> it. This means that unrelated lines are combined into one, and
> this may result in quotes being mixed with my own text. This is
> so bad that I have chosen to edit mails in Dialog (which can't
> send them) and then copy the finished result into the Thunderbird
> editor so I can send the mail.

I've noticed minor inconsistencies in where the cursor is initially
placed when TB generates a composition window (for email), but other
than that, I've not experienced any problems. But I guess the
composition window for NNTP _could_ be different (would seem an odd way
to write the application, but it's possible).


> Apart form that I do not want to have to do without Dialogs
> automatic reformatting of a section.
>
> Example:
>
> Raw quote:
>
> > The only minor drawback
> > I've found is that you can't delete newsgroup headers (although you
> > can delete e-mail).
>
> Reformatted (mark section and press Ctrl-R)
>
> > The only minor drawback I've found is that you can't delete
> > newsgroup headers (although you can delete e-mail).
>

I do this all the time in TB when reformatting emails.

--
Steve Foster
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