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Bill Lentz

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Nov 17, 2003, 12:08:23 PM11/17/03
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A new partner has suggested we play a convention that he calls
"Adjunct Stayman". Basics are:

1NT opener is 15-18
2C reponse is Stayman
2D reply is 15-16 points, both majors,
2H is 15-16, hearts
2S is 15-16, spades,
2NT is 15-16, no major
3D is 17-18, both majors,
3H is 17-18, hearts,
etc.

I haven't been able to find, either in books or on-line, the
convention under this name. I've seen a couple of Stayman
modifications that seem close. Does anyone recognize the convention
as named, or, as described, under another name?

Thanks
Bill

Stephen Pickett

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Nov 17, 2003, 1:20:52 PM11/17/03
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Bill Lentz wrote:

Try "Crowhurst"

I use a variant of this to handle unlimited 1NT response to 1C (16+). It
works especially well when the responder has about the same as opener!
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Tony T. Warnock

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Nov 17, 2003, 4:19:40 PM11/17/03
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Stephen Pickett wrote:

> Bill Lentz wrote:
>
> > A new partner has suggested we play a convention that he calls
> > "Adjunct Stayman". Basics are:
> >
> > 1NT opener is 15-18
> > 2C reponse is Stayman
> > 2D reply is 15-16 points, both majors,
> > 2H is 15-16, hearts
> > 2S is 15-16, spades,
> > 2NT is 15-16, no major
> > 3D is 17-18, both majors,
> > 3H is 17-18, hearts,
> > etc.
> >
> > I haven't been able to find, either in books or on-line, the
> > convention under this name. I've seen a couple of Stayman
> > modifications that seem close. Does anyone recognize the convention
> > as named, or, as described, under another name?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Bill
>
> Try "Crowhurst"
>
> I use a variant of this to handle unlimited 1NT response to 1C (16+). It
> works especially well when the responder has about the same as opener!

Might it be more efficient to swap the point ranges? As one is already
forced to game then:

2D: both, 17-18
2H: H, 17-18
2S: S, 17-18
2N: neither, 17-18
3D: both 15-16,
etc.
3NT neither, 15-16.

Possible swapping 2D to mean neither and 2N to mean both with 17-18 points
may be useful. (Probably the 3D both and 3NT neither should be kept.)

Adam Beneschan

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Nov 17, 2003, 8:21:46 PM11/17/03
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Bill Lentz <chip11...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<4qvhrv83dufahj5af...@4ax.com>...

I've played this as "Extended Stayman" when I've used a 4-point 1NT
opening range (our ranges were 10-13 or 13-16). The above structure
appears to use 3NT for the maximum range when there is no major; I
think it's silly to force opener to use this much space while leaving
a perfectly good 3C bid unused.

-- Adam

Kieran Dyke

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Nov 18, 2003, 6:09:41 AM11/18/03
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In Australia it's known as "Extended Stayman" and is played by a large
number of very bad club players around Sydney. Among good players it's
primarily regarded as a subject for jokes. A crucial skill in individuals is
to be able to say "I don't know Extended Stayman".

Tiggrr

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Gordon Rainsford

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Nov 18, 2003, 8:16:58 AM11/18/03
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Adam Beneschan <ad...@irvine.com> wrote:

The version I play (under pressure) uses 3C as the maximum with no
major, and 3NT is max with a 5-card minor.


--
Gordon Rainsford

London UK

Gordon Rainsford

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Nov 18, 2003, 8:16:57 AM11/18/03
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Stephen Pickett <sf...@microtopia.net> wrote:

> Bill Lentz wrote:
>
> > A new partner has suggested we play a convention that he calls
> > "Adjunct Stayman". Basics are:
> >
> > 1NT opener is 15-18
> > 2C reponse is Stayman
> > 2D reply is 15-16 points, both majors,
> > 2H is 15-16, hearts
> > 2S is 15-16, spades,
> > 2NT is 15-16, no major
> > 3D is 17-18, both majors,
> > 3H is 17-18, hearts,
> > etc.
> >
> > I haven't been able to find, either in books or on-line, the
> > convention under this name. I've seen a couple of Stayman
> > modifications that seem close. Does anyone recognize the convention
> > as named, or, as described, under another name?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Bill
>
> Try "Crowhurst"

No, this is not Crowhurst, which is form of Checkback/range enquiry
after a wide-ranging 1NT rebid.

As described above (with adjustments for a weak NT) this arrangement
goes under the name of "Ritter" in England (mostly Essex and surrounds).
I have a partner who likes to play it so that she can use a 12-15 NT in
Precision, and keep her 1D opening as 4+ cards.

>
> I use a variant of this to handle unlimited 1NT response to 1C (16+). It
> works especially well when the responder has about the same as opener!
>

Yes, she does the same in the context of an 8-13 1NT response to 1C.

Gordon Rainsford

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Nov 18, 2003, 8:18:53 AM11/18/03
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Kieran Dyke <tig...@idx.com.au> wrote:

> In Australia it's known as "Extended Stayman" and is played by a large
> number of very bad club players around Sydney. Among good players it's
> primarily regarded as a subject for jokes. A crucial skill in individuals is
> to be able to say "I don't know Extended Stayman".
>
> Tiggrr

Over here, Extended Stayman is the term used to describe the sequence
1NT-2C-2D-3D as an enquiry for opener's longer major.

>
> "Bill Lentz" <chip11...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4qvhrv83dufahj5af...@4ax.com...
> > A new partner has suggested we play a convention that he calls
> > "Adjunct Stayman". Basics are:
> >
> > 1NT opener is 15-18
> > 2C reponse is Stayman
> > 2D reply is 15-16 points, both majors,
> > 2H is 15-16, hearts
> > 2S is 15-16, spades,
> > 2NT is 15-16, no major
> > 3D is 17-18, both majors,
> > 3H is 17-18, hearts,
> > etc.
> >
> > I haven't been able to find, either in books or on-line, the
> > convention under this name. I've seen a couple of Stayman
> > modifications that seem close. Does anyone recognize the convention
> > as named, or, as described, under another name?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Bill

Kieran Dyke

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Nov 18, 2003, 3:40:57 PM11/18/03
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"Gordon Rainsford" <r...@gordonrainsford.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1g4mfjv.dsnpgfcevearN%r...@gordonrainsford.co.uk...

> Kieran Dyke <tig...@idx.com.au> wrote:
>
> > In Australia it's known as "Extended Stayman" and is played by a large
> > number of very bad club players around Sydney. Among good players it's
> > primarily regarded as a subject for jokes. A crucial skill in
individuals is
> > to be able to say "I don't know Extended Stayman".
> >
> > Tiggrr
>
> Over here, Extended Stayman is the term used to describe the sequence
> 1NT-2C-2D-3D as an enquiry for opener's longer major.

If 3D shows 5/5, isn't that called Weissburger or something?

Tiggrr

Gordon Rainsford

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Nov 19, 2003, 8:23:34 AM11/19/03
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Kieran Dyke <tig...@idx.com.au> wrote:

> "Gordon Rainsford" <r...@gordonrainsford.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1g4mfjv.dsnpgfcevearN%r...@gordonrainsford.co.uk...
> > Kieran Dyke <tig...@idx.com.au> wrote:
> >
> > > In Australia it's known as "Extended Stayman" and is played by a large
> > > number of very bad club players around Sydney. Among good players it's
> > > primarily regarded as a subject for jokes. A crucial skill in
> individuals is
> > > to be able to say "I don't know Extended Stayman".
> > >
> > > Tiggrr
> >
> > Over here, Extended Stayman is the term used to describe the sequence
> > 1NT-2C-2D-3D as an enquiry for opener's longer major.
>
> If 3D shows 5/5, isn't that called Weissburger or something?
>
> Tiggrr

Not here, though maybe somewhere else. Incidentally, it can be used on
5/4 hands too, as long as you play it as game forcing. Then you can play
a jump to 3H/S as 5/4 and invitational.

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