1D-(X)-?

No Body

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Apr 2, 2012, 10:18:28 PM4/2/12

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Partner opens 1D, RHO doubles, what would you respond with this hand
(IMPs, red vs. green):

1042
952
Q
AQ10732

You are playing a basically natural system, 2C response to 1D usually
shows 10+ HCP and is not game forcing.

Cheers!

Adam Beneschan

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Apr 2, 2012, 11:42:16 PM4/2/12

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Most players play a 2/1 response after a takeout double as a weaker hand, non-forcing. (With a better hand you redouble, make some sort of conventional raise, bid a new suit at the 1 level which is more commonly played as forcing, or bid some number of notrump.) So 2C is probably about right with this hand, although if I were non-vul I'd probably bid 3C (weak) to put even more pressure on the opponents. About 50 years ago, 2C in this position would have shown 10+ or so, just as it would be without the double. Not any more.

Also, there are lots of players who use some sort of conventional responses over the opponents' takeout doubles, such as transfers or Cappelletti (but the latter may be only over a major-suit opening, I'm not sure) or something else. With my regular partner, I would bid 1NT showing clubs and 6-10.

-- Adam

Henry Lockwood

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Apr 3, 2012, 3:10:18 AM4/3/12

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On Apr 3, 3:18 am, No Body <hopeitsanoriginalusern...@gmail.com>
wrote:

In my regular partnership, a jump in a new suit is weak - so this hand
is ideal for a 3C bid. Colours are a little unhelpful, but there you
go.

dak...@aol.com

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Apr 3, 2012, 9:14:07 AM4/3/12

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***
Agree.
Weak, but not disappointing if partner tries 3NT to run clubs.
Really want to get above opponents' easy Major bids
yet have some suit for partner being the one preempted out of space.

Eric Leong

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Apr 3, 2012, 11:26:20 AM4/3/12

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On Apr 2, 7:18 pm, No Body <hopeitsanoriginalusern...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Well if you can't bid 2C then I bid a non forcing 3C. 3C keeps 3NT in
play and makes it more difficult for the opponents to find the right
major suit fit.

Eric Leong

vsp...@hotmail.com

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Apr 3, 2012, 12:22:08 PM4/3/12

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On Monday, April 2, 2012 7:18:28 PM UTC-7, No Body wrote:

Bid 2C. Change your agreement to 2C shows
11 or less after 1Y - (X).

tivojohn

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Apr 4, 2012, 3:18:34 PM4/4/12

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On Apr 2, 7:18 pm, No Body <hopeitsanoriginalusern...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Start with 2C over the double, planning to compete again in clubs. I
think this hand is much too good for a weak jump to 3C. The potential
upside on offense is fairly high.

I would be more concerned about obstructing the opponents if I were
very short in at least one major suit.

-- john

Fred.

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Apr 6, 2012, 12:51:22 PM4/6/12

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If 2C after the double is constructive, non-forcing, showing
a good suit bid it. If partner is going to take you for
10 HCP you should bid it anyhow. Your hand is more valuable
than if RHO had not doubles because the most likely spot for
club honors is on your right.

If your partner has some club fit and the controls for 3NT,
your hand should produce more than half the tricks. And,
your diamond queen is likely to be worth something. A key
point on the hand is that the club suit povides its own entry
so the opponents can't knock it out.

Fred.

Player

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Apr 6, 2012, 11:28:33 PM4/6/12

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On Apr 3, 9:18 am, No Body <hopeitsanoriginalusern...@gmail.com>
wrote:

1NT - transfer to C.
Ron

Stu Goodgold

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Apr 7, 2012, 2:17:16 AM4/7/12

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Of course; so obvious. A part of every basically natural system.

-Stu Goodgold
San Jose, CA

Lorne

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Apr 7, 2012, 6:59:12 AM4/7/12

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"No Body" wrote in message
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...............

In my experience this hardly ever gets passed out so I just pass and hope I
can describe my hand perfectly with a NF bid of 2C later. If the club suit
was a tad better (make the 2 a J) I would bid 2C followed by 3C assuming
that was to play.

Steve Willner

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May 18, 2012, 9:27:47 PM5/18/12

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[old thread but a historical note might be amusing]

On 2012-04-02 11:42 PM, Adam Beneschan wrote:
> About 50 years ago, 2C in this position [see subject line] would have

> shown 10+ or so, just as it would be without the double.

I haven't played bridge for quite 50 years yet, but I did learn from a
certified Goren teacher and a 1950's text. Even 50 years ago, the 2C
response was weaker than a normal 2/1. So was 1M, for that matter;
anything other than redouble was limited to at most 10 points.

I have no idea how far back one would have to go to find 2C strong in
this sequence, but I suspect 1940's or earlier. _Goren's Bridge
Complete_ or a similar book would probably indicate.

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Adam Beneschan

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May 21, 2012, 12:25:54 PM5/21/12

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On Friday, May 18, 2012 6:27:47 PM UTC-7, Steve Willner wrote:
> [old thread but a historical note might be amusing]
>
> On 2012-04-02 11:42 PM, Adam Beneschan wrote:
> > About 50 years ago, 2C in this position [see subject line] would have
> > shown 10+ or so, just as it would be without the double.
>
> I haven't played bridge for quite 50 years yet, but I did learn from a
> certified Goren teacher and a 1950's text. Even 50 years ago, the 2C
> response was weaker than a normal 2/1. So was 1M, for that matter;
> anything other than redouble was limited to at most 10 points.
>
> I have no idea how far back one would have to go to find 2C strong in
> this sequence, but I suspect 1940's or earlier. _Goren's Bridge
> Complete_ or a similar book would probably indicate.

My first bridge book was the "New 1944 Edition!" of one of Goren's books that my mom had lying around for some reason (she never actually learned to play). I guess my math was a bit off.

-- Adam

Player

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May 21, 2012, 8:07:10 PM5/21/12

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A lot of serious pairs play transfers after a double. Don't you?
Ron