In article
<271747723350706024.758638dave.doran.wex-gmail....@nntp.aioe.org>, Dave
D <dave.doran....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Have any of you played on BridgeBig.com? Do you think it will lure people
> away from BBO?
Just gave it a try, plus perused their website. Whether it gains
tractions is anyone's guess, and how well their software operates is
still an open question (it is, after all, a beta that they admit
"requires care").
One group to which I think it will appeal are those who are looking for
a money-centered venue. That's something that BBO does, but (in my
opinion as a longtime rubber bridge player) doesn't do all that well.
Another group to whom it should definitely appeal are those who use
iPads, iPhones, and similar mobile devices.
The major impediment to gaining the traction is that overcoming an
entrenched competitor requires both a _significantly_ better
product/deal and for that competitor to stumble, however briefly, to
provide the window of opportunity. (You also need the funding to
continue to evolve.)
<dogbre...@chaseabone.com.invalid> wrote:
> In article
> <271747723350706024.758638dave.doran.wex-gmail....@nntp.aioe.org>, Dave
> D <dave.doran....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Have any of you played on BridgeBig.com? Do you think it will lure people
> > away from BBO?
> Just gave it a try, plus perused their website. Whether it gains
> tractions is anyone's guess, and how well their software operates is
> still an open question (it is, after all, a beta that they admit
> "requires care").
> One group to which I think it will appeal are those who are looking for
> a money-centered venue. That's something that BBO does, but (in my
> opinion as a longtime rubber bridge player) doesn't do all that well.
> Another group to whom it should definitely appeal are those who use
> iPads, iPhones, and similar mobile devices.
> The major impediment to gaining the traction is that overcoming an
> entrenched competitor requires both a _significantly_ better
> product/deal and for that competitor to stumble, however briefly, to
> provide the window of opportunity. (You also need the funding to
> continue to evolve.)
Okay, I've given it some more exercise, both on the computer and iPad.
I tried it on the iPhone, but the screen is just too blasted small.
There's a lot of "waiting" time for the table to form for a deal, but
if they get sufficient players online that should cease to be an issue
(I haven't encountered more that 9 people signed in at one time so
far).
The interface for bidding/playing is pretty good...I like it a little
(buy only a little) better than what BBO and OKB offer. With such a
small sample size, I won't give a rating to the level of play other
than to say that the very few I've played with and against are
definitely better than the random players you'll find, for example, in
a BBO individual event (what they call an Express).
At this point, the "waiting" is the biggest issue for me. One of the
main things I'm reminded that I dislike about face-to-face bridge is
how glacial the pace is (we just had a sectional here and we had to
wait for tables or opponents virtually every round and always had 15-20
minutes between matches in the Swiss...finished the last match almost a
half hour before the event ended.
The focus of the site is exclusively on their competitions. So far as I
can tell, there is no venue for partnership practice or casual play, so
that's going to kill its appeal for the multitudes. Unless that
changes, it will not offer either BBO or OKB any competition.
> In article <120220120750331281%dogbre...@chaseabone.com.invalid>, sbt
> <dogbre...@chaseabone.com.invalid> wrote:
>> In article
>> <271747723350706024.758638dave.doran.wex-gmail....@nntp.aioe.org>, Dave
>> D <dave.doran....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Have any of you played on BridgeBig.com? Do you think it will lure people
>>> away from BBO?
>> Just gave it a try, plus perused their website. Whether it gains
>> tractions is anyone's guess, and how well their software operates is
>> still an open question (it is, after all, a beta that they admit
>> "requires care").
>> One group to which I think it will appeal are those who are looking for
>> a money-centered venue. That's something that BBO does, but (in my
>> opinion as a longtime rubber bridge player) doesn't do all that well.
>> Another group to whom it should definitely appeal are those who use
>> iPads, iPhones, and similar mobile devices.
>> The major impediment to gaining the traction is that overcoming an
>> entrenched competitor requires both a _significantly_ better
>> product/deal and for that competitor to stumble, however briefly, to
>> provide the window of opportunity. (You also need the funding to
>> continue to evolve.)
> Okay, I've given it some more exercise, both on the computer and iPad.
> I tried it on the iPhone, but the screen is just too blasted small.
> There's a lot of "waiting" time for the table to form for a deal, but
> if they get sufficient players online that should cease to be an issue
> (I haven't encountered more that 9 people signed in at one time so
> far).
> The interface for bidding/playing is pretty good...I like it a little
> (buy only a little) better than what BBO and OKB offer. With such a
> small sample size, I won't give a rating to the level of play other
> than to say that the very few I've played with and against are
> definitely better than the random players you'll find, for example, in
> a BBO individual event (what they call an Express).
> At this point, the "waiting" is the biggest issue for me. One of the
> main things I'm reminded that I dislike about face-to-face bridge is
> how glacial the pace is (we just had a sectional here and we had to
> wait for tables or opponents virtually every round and always had 15-20
> minutes between matches in the Swiss...finished the last match almost a
> half hour before the event ended.
> The focus of the site is exclusively on their competitions. So far as I
> can tell, there is no venue for partnership practice or casual play, so
> that's going to kill its appeal for the multitudes. Unless that
> changes, it will not offer either BBO or OKB any competition.
I agree with you - it's going to have to offer a lot to coax people away
from BBO. I've been glancing at it over the past few months, and
although the graphics are great, I've never seen any more than a dozen
people at any one time. I believe that their aim is to have some serious
money in prizes, but to be honest, unless they get some players soon, I
can't see this taking off. Still, I wish them the best of luck; it's
always nice to see something new in online bridge.
Dave D wrote:
> On 13/02/2012 18:11, sbt wrote:
> > In article <120220120750331281%dogbre...@chaseabone.com.invalid>,
> > sbt <dogbre...@chaseabone.com.invalid> wrote:
> >> In article
> >> <271747723350706024.758638dave.doran.wex-gmail....@nntp.aioe.org>,
> Dave >> D <dave.doran....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Have any of you played on BridgeBig.com? Do you think it will
> lure people >>> away from BBO?
> >> Just gave it a try, plus perused their website. Whether it gains
> >> tractions is anyone's guess, and how well their software operates
> is >> still an open question (it is, after all, a beta that they admit
> >> "requires care").
> >> One group to which I think it will appeal are those who are
> looking for >> a money-centered venue. That's something that BBO
> does, but (in my >> opinion as a longtime rubber bridge player)
> doesn't do all that well.
> >> Another group to whom it should definitely appeal are those who use
> >> iPads, iPhones, and similar mobile devices.
> >> The major impediment to gaining the traction is that overcoming an
> >> entrenched competitor requires both a significantly better
> >> product/deal and for that competitor to stumble, however briefly,
> to >> provide the window of opportunity. (You also need the funding to
> >> continue to evolve.)
> > Okay, I've given it some more exercise, both on the computer and
> > iPad. I tried it on the iPhone, but the screen is just too blasted
> > small.
> > There's a lot of "waiting" time for the table to form for a deal,
> > but if they get sufficient players online that should cease to be
> > an issue (I haven't encountered more that 9 people signed in at one
> > time so far).
> > The interface for bidding/playing is pretty good...I like it a
> > little (buy only a little) better than what BBO and OKB offer. With
> > such a small sample size, I won't give a rating to the level of
> > play other than to say that the very few I've played with and
> > against are definitely better than the random players you'll find,
> > for example, in a BBO individual event (what they call an Express).
> > At this point, the "waiting" is the biggest issue for me. One of the
> > main things I'm reminded that I dislike about face-to-face bridge is
> > how glacial the pace is (we just had a sectional here and we had to
> > wait for tables or opponents virtually every round and always had
> > 15-20 minutes between matches in the Swiss...finished the last
> > match almost a half hour before the event ended.
> > The focus of the site is exclusively on their competitions. So far
> > as I can tell, there is no venue for partnership practice or casual
> > play, so that's going to kill its appeal for the multitudes. Unless
> > that changes, it will not offer either BBO or OKB any competition.
> I agree with you - it's going to have to offer a lot to coax people
> away from BBO. I've been glancing at it over the past few months, and
> although the graphics are great, I've never seen any more than a dozen
> people at any one time. I believe that their aim is to have some
> serious money in prizes, but to be honest, unless they get some
> players soon, I can't see this taking off. Still, I wish them the
> best of luck; it's always nice to see something new in online bridge.
Having looked at both, one advantage for BridgeBig is that it requires
neither Flash nor Java (at least one of which you need for BBO).