A Game/No Game Decision
Will in New Haven
North: KJT8X - AX - XX - AJXX
South: X - KJT9XX - AXX - QXX
Xes are all very low.
North deals and you have a free run.
How do you bid it?
What contract do you reach?
What contract do you WANT to be in?
--
Will in New Haven
axm...@hotmail.com
1S-2H-2S-3H
If N the contract will probably be 3H
if S then probably 4H
Eric Leong
<bill.re...@taylorandfrancis.com> wrote:
> IMP, not vulnerable in a short match.
>
> North: KJT8X - AX - XX - AJXX
>
> South: X - KJT9XX - AXX - QXX
>
> Xes are all very low.
>
> North deals and you have a free run.
>
> How do you bid it?
> What contract do you reach?
1S 2H
2S 3H
Pass
> What contract do you WANT to be in?
3H. In 4H, you have five potential losers and you need a little luck
to end up with only three losers.
At best, I would be indifferent to being in 3H or 4H. But I would
prefer my opponents go to marginal contracts and put themselves under
the gun not to lose imps.
Eric Leong
Andrew
>
> North: KJT8X - AX - XX - AJXX
>
> South: X - KJT9XX - AXX - QXX
>
> Xes are all very low.
>
> North deals and you have a free run.
>
> How do you bid it?
1S-3H
P
> What contract do you WANT to be in?
3H
axm...@hotmail.com
axm...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Will in New Haven wrote:
> > IMP, not vulnerable in a short match.
> >
> > North: KJT8X - AX - XX - AJXX
> >
> > South: X - KJT9XX - AXX - QXX
> >
> > Xes are all very low.
> >
> > North deals and you have a free run.
> >
> > How do you bid it?
> > What contract do you reach?
> > What contract do you WANT to be in?
> >
> > --
> > Will in New Haven
Got zapped by the touchpad <ouch>
> 1S-2H-2S-3H
>
> If I'm N the contract will probably be 3H
> if I'm S then probably 4H
3H, A D lead may force a H loser, a second H loser is possible via a C
ruff, possible C loser, if pull H then one if not 2 D losers, and SAQ
may be wrong preventing a useful pitch. Even is everyone else bids
game, they haven't made it yet...
regards
axman
paul
1S-1NT (forcing)
2C-2H
pass
I'm pretty happy with this contract.
dranon
wrote:
You really think 2H describes the hand?
Will in New Haven
Oddly enough, or not so oddly, that was exactly our auction. I take it
you play 3H game-invitational with six and no Spade fit.
We picked up an IMP for +230 versus +200, 3H making five at the other
table. The defense at our table was awful. Heart lead and then leap up
with the Spade Ace when I lead toward the board. From AXXXX, so that
pickled all their other possible winners. Our teammates defended one
trick less badly, although their defense also featured the same play
in Spades. Declarer at the other table told our teammates that she
would have gone up King if the Ace had not been played. Everyone says
that but mostly they are lying.
I think 3H is fine NV or at matchpoints but I would want to be in four
if vulnerable at IMP.
jonathan23
Looking at both hands I don't really want to be in game, but if my
partnership were bidding we might end up there through fault of our
own.
1S 2H
2NT(1) 3H(2)
P(3)
1) Bidding "Standard" (whatever that happens to be), this 5422 with Ax
in partner's suit is balanced enough that I would rather bid 2NT than
2S or 3C.
2) Non-forcing and natural
3) Depending on which member of our partnership was in which seat on
this auction, this might be an optimistic 4H instead but I freely
admit that it really _shouldn't_ be.
- Jon Campbell
Ottawa CANADA
Raija D
"Will in New Haven" <bill....@taylorandfrancis.com> wrote in message
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Playing 2/1,
1S-1NT (forc)
2C-3H (inv)
N probably passes but I wouldn't consider it completely crazy to raise. He
has 5 controls and Ax support when he could have had somewhat - or even
muc - worse hand. 3H looks like the place to be.
Raija D
"paul" <paul...@infi.net> wrote in message
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1S-1NT (forcing)
2C-2H
pass
=======
I think 2H is extremely pessimistic.
There isn't a typo, is there?
henry...@yahoo.com
1s 2h 2s 3h 4h
the 2s rebid is neutral, denying the ability to make a more
descriptive bid. It does not promist 6 spades (i.e., is Lawrence
style not Bergen style).
3h is not forcing.
4h is a game try.
It is probably very close between 3h and 4h. On a trump lead, you
most likely have 6 hearts, 1 diamond, and 2 clubs. You probably need
to guess spades to make it.
Still, you won't always get a trump lead, so I'd rather be in game
than not.
Henrysun909
Nick France
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In 2/1 isn't 2H rebid an underbid. Seems more like a 3H rebid to me.
Nick France
Nick France
Playing 2/1
1S 1NT
2C 3H
Pass
But I could see North bidding 4H and not sure where I'd actually want
to be.
Nick France
jogs
> "paul" <paulh...@infi.net> wrote in message
2H is my first choice.
4H is my second choice.
Hate being in 3H. Only should be one trick short
of game in contested auctions. Never in uncontested
auctions.
Will in New Haven
That's nice theory but it means you bid X - QTXXXX - AXX - XXX the
same as the example hand.
Alan Malloy
I reach 2H via:
1S(1) 1N(2)
2C(3) 2H(4)
pass(5)
1) 10-15, 5+ spades
2) Semi-forcing. Opener only passes with a 5(332) 10-13
3) Forcing: any sound opening (this qualifies, barely) OR a weak opening
with clubs (I wouldn't quarrel if partner called this weak with clubs)
4) Denies 11 HCP; very often 0-1 spades; at least 5 hearts, usually 6
5) Game will be marginal at best opposite 10 HCP, hearts seem like a fit
Playing a more standard 2/1 structure I reach at least 3H, maybe even 4H
(responder invites with 3H instead of 2H, opener might accept). NV at
teams I don't mind being in 4H, since at a glance it seems to have
reasonable play, but 2H rates to win 4-6 IMPs against 3H fairly often,
so I think I'm happy to be there. At pairs I am delighted to be in 2H.
--
Cheers,
Alan (San Jose, California, USA)
David W.
1S - 3H
4H - p
I play 3H invitational with no spade fit. N has some pluses (5
controls, ruffing value), and some minuses (7 LTC). The LTC can be
adusted down given the aces and the lack of queens so I would go with
the North hand. I realize the odds are against making this one but
I'd still want to be there vulnerability notwithstanding.
Regards,
David W.
Will in New Haven
If you go down in 3H "fairly often" I am surprised at you. If the guys
at the other table go down in 3H, being in three making nine tricks is
no problem. There are certainly other combinations where getting to 3H
is risky but this combination will make ten tricks more often than
only eight. I would hate to miss game with these hands if vulnerable
at IMP.
boblipton
Playing our 2/1, the bidding goes 1S-1NT-2C-3H-?
This shows a limit hand woth six hearts. Whether we bid 4 is a
matter of table presence;. Obviously 4 Hearts is good unless you get
a diamond lead and all the hooks are offside.
Bob
jackie...@gmail.com
What system do you play?
Standard American, 2/1?
Either way you could/should end up in 2NT which is OK with me.
Spud
Alan Malloy
Well, all right, I admit I didn't look very hard at the contract. Still,
2H will gain against 4H perhaps half the time, and will gain against 3H
on occasion. I'd rather play 2 than 4, but either is better than 3.
peter cheung
1s 1nt(f) 2c 3h (inv to game normally if pd can play in heart we have
game if not pass for minimum 3nt if pd has extra)
you have 15 playing point if pd can play in heart so you cannot bid 2h
If pd has less than 2 hearts you cannot make 4 heart.
Looking at both hand you have about a 50% chance to make 4 heart.
OldPalooka
I agree with Henry's auction, I believe it would be a common auction
in the Big Game in the Sky. It would never occur to me to pass an
invitational 3H with the North hand. This is neither a minimum nor a
misfit. Game may be a tad less than 50%, but they are laying me 6 to
5 for compensation.
-- Bill Shutts
Bud H
1S 3H (jump shift to lower ranking suit = invitational with 6+
card suit)
4H P
or old fashioned Standard American
1S 2H
2S 3H
4H P
Bud H
Frisbieinstein
In Polish Club it is
1S 2H
2S 3H
That seems like the right contract to me.
castigamatti
<bill.re...@taylorandfrancis.com> wrote:
> IMP, not vulnerable in a short match.
>
> North: KJT8X - AX - XX - AJXX
>
> South: X - KJT9XX - AXX - QXX
>
> Xes are all very low.
>
> North deals and you have a free run.
>
> How do you bid it?
> What contract do you reach?
> What contract do you WANT to be in?
>
> --
> Will in New Haven
1S - 1N
2D - 3H
All pass
B.R.
castigamatti
Agricolo
1NT!- 3NT
All pass
1NT! = 12-14, balanced ( mostly )
B.R.
Andrew
<bill.re...@taylorandfrancis.com> wrote:
> On Nov 24, 12:41 pm, Andrew <agump...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 24, 9:13 am, Will in New Haven
>
> > <bill.re...@taylorandfrancis.com> wrote:
> > > IMP, not vulnerable in a short match.
>
> > > North: KJT8X - AX - XX - AJXX
>
> > > South: X - KJT9XX - AXX - QXX
>
> > > Xes are all very low.
>
> > > North deals and you have a free run.
>
> > > How do you bid it?
>
> > 1S-3H
> > P
>
> > > What contract do you WANT to be in?
>
> > 3H
>
> Oddly enough, or not so oddly, that was exactly our auction. I take it
> you play 3H game-invitational with six and no Spade fit.
That is exactly how I play it.
> We picked up an IMP for +230 versus +200, 3H making five at the other
> table. The defense at our table was awful. Heart lead and then leap up
> with the Spade Ace when I lead toward the board. From AXXXX, so that
> pickled all their other possible winners. Our teammates defended one
> trick less badly, although their defense also featured the same play
> in Spades. Declarer at the other table told our teammates that she
> would have gone up King if the Ace had not been played. Everyone says
> that but mostly they are lying.
>
> I think 3H is fine NV or at matchpoints but I would want to be in four
> if vulnerable at IMP.
Agreed. Actually I don't mind getting there NV either.
Andrew
dak...@aol.com
North: KJT8X - AX - XX - AJXX
South: X - KJT9XX - AXX - QXX
North deals and you have a free run.
How do you bid it?
What contract do you reach?
1S-2H-, 2H-4H.
What contract do you WANT to be in?
4H. Hefty 6-suit, S-guess or C-Kx onside or S-C squeeze or they avoid
D-attack sums to good chances.
Eric Leong
>
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Another factor to consider is time. For example, if your side is
running a little late on time maybe your side can't afford to take the
extra time to think about playing a border line contract.
Eric Leong
Will in New Haven
I had a partner who played very slowly once but usually we are done
long before the other table. When we are playing against a very slow
pair it averages out.