Cuebid by advancer after inverted minor sequence by opponents

metobillc

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Feb 9, 2010, 6:07:49 PM2/9/10

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Without discussion, what would you take as the meaning for the
following 3D call by unpassed hand?

1D-(P)-2D-(3D)?

How would you prefer to play it? How about by a passed hand? Would
the meaning change if all of the diamond bids were club bids?

Thanks,

Bill Campbell

Andrew

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Feb 9, 2010, 6:18:23 PM2/9/10

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Majors and no.

A.

metobillc

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Feb 9, 2010, 6:33:25 PM2/9/10

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What kind of playing strength, and how would it differ from a 4D bid?

Bill

Andrew

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Feb 9, 2010, 7:15:27 PM2/9/10

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The min is enough to feel comfortable forcing to the three level--
approximately a king more than a direct 2D would show. The exact
amount is a matter of vulnerability conditions and the risk tolerance
of the player. 4D shows more playing strength and guarantees diamond
shortness. 3D might be bid on a doubleton (or even a tripleton).

Andrew

Kieran Dyke

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Feb 9, 2010, 7:45:34 PM2/9/10

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"metobillc" <meto...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Without discussion, what would you take as the meaning for the
> following 3D call by unpassed hand?
>
> 1D-(P)-2D-(3D)?
>
> How would you prefer to play it?

5/5 or longer in the majors.

> How about by a passed hand?

5/5 or longer in the majors.

> Would the meaning change if all of the diamond bids were club bids?

5/5 or longer in the majors.

Tiggrr

>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill Campbell

alvin

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Feb 9, 2010, 8:41:51 PM2/9/10

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Bill:

If you are playing Michaels, that is what this bid means. Even if you
are not otherwise playing Michaels, there is no way that this bid
could be strong (a one-suiter say, forcing to game) because opener and
responder are close to game. themselves (because you have them playing
inverted minors.) There should be close-to-unanimous agreement aboiut
that.

Having said that, please note that the bidder of 3D is not "advancer."
The 3D bidder is "overcaller," "cue bidder," or "intervenor,"
depending on your p;reference. His partner is "advancer."

Alvin P. Bluthman
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henry...@yahoo.com

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Feb 9, 2010, 9:09:13 PM2/9/10

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A major two suiter, regardless of which minor was opened.

An interesting question is how 1m (p) 2m (3m) differs from 1m (p) 2m
(4m); is the former the same two suiter, just weaker and freakier? My
guess is that would be the sort of standard approach.

Henrysun909

Derek Broughton

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Feb 10, 2010, 10:17:18 AM2/10/10

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Kieran Dyke wrote:

Ah! You reverse the suits...
--
derek

Andrew

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Feb 10, 2010, 11:13:29 AM2/10/10

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Upon further reflection, I think 4D promises a very high offense-to-
defense ratio. 4D should be a strong suggestion to sacrifice in 5M
over 5D. 3D is either a weaker hand that can not risk the 4-level
opposite a misfit or a hand with reasonable defense in addition to 5-5
in the majors. In either case, overcaller is less eager to bid at the
5-level.

Andrew

Lorne

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Feb 10, 2010, 12:56:28 PM2/10/10

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"metobillc" <meto...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Both majors regardless of which minor is bid or being a passed hand.

4D would show 6-5 or 5-6 and strongly suggest a sacrifice if they bid 5D
whereas 3D is just a normal 2-suiter so partner should only bid to the 5
level with little defence and a good fit.