Come Watch Me Play On My Webcam
Hank Youngerman
Zone. I have set up a webcam that has a view of my screen and hands.
This will verify that I do not have any improper programs open on my
computer, and that I am not manipulating another computer with my
hands. (I reserve the right to move my hands briefly to scratch my
nose or the like.) Further, prior to the match, I will take my other
two computers (many people know that I have 3) and hold them up to the
webcam so that it can be seen they are not on, then put them on the
table beside me.
I will play anyone available. If I play someone who deliberately plays
ridiculous moves to create unfamiliar positions, I reserve the right to
terminate the match and find a new opponent. I will probably just go
sit at a table and play the first person who sits down with me.
I am not saying that I can play at a particular Snowie error rate. I
am also not saying that I will play at breakneck speed. I expect to be
extremely nervous and I have the right to think, but I am not going to
spend interminable amounts of time after the dice are rolled and before
moving - not that this should matter. We have all seen players in
important live matches (or even unimportant ones) think for minutes
about plays; I am entitled to a few seconds, with my hands in full
view.
Anyone who wishes may view the webcam by using the Yahoo Messenger
address redtopswebcam. I will allow all who wish to watch, unless
there are computer limitations I am unaware of. (I have only tested
this with up to two viewers at once.) The only applications that will
be open on my computer while playing are the MSN Zone and Yahoo
Messenger. Toward the end of each match, I will open the Capture Log
program to capture the match record.
My webcam ID is online now and I will add anyone who asks to my contact
list. Around 1:50 I will come online, go into the Doubling Cube room
on the Zone, and invite the webcam viewers, planning to start around
2:00. I am not going to respond to any messages other than to add
people to my webcam. If I get any Yahoo messages or add requests while
I am playing, I will just cancel them. Viewers should be aware that
they might see a Yahoo box pop up on my webcam screen - I don't
know how to prevent this. If someone messages me, I will close it, and
if they message me twice, I will terminate the conversation with them.
Let the chips fall where they may. I have no doubt that there will be
people who, no matter what they see, will hold to a prior bad opinion
of me. I will not expect a silly little thing like facts to change
some people's minds, one they are already made up.
Gregg Cattanach
> Today, Sunday, March 26, I will play two 9pt matches on the MSN Gaming
> Zone. I have set up a webcam that has a view of my screen and hands.
When you begin the match, please launch your task manager so viewers can
review the names of programs running on your computer.
Raccoon
Hank Youngerman wrote:
> Today, Sunday, March 26, I will play two 9pt matches on the MSN Gaming
> Zone.
> I will not expect a silly little thing like facts to change
> some people's minds, one they are already made up.
Anyone who has already made up his mind already has facts on which to
base an opinion, including these three:
1. Of all the players in my database of recorded matches that Hank
played for money on TMG and GamesGrid, his GNUBG error rate is an
astoundingly low -0.0032, that is, lower than anyone else in the
database with more than 3 or 4 games recorded.
2. In 15 matches Hank played against Robi on TMG for money, Hank's
Snowie error rate is an astoundingly low 1.728. Robi is a very frequent
player in TMG tournaments and match play for money and has recorded
many matches. Among other players in Robi's database with at least 5
matches played, the second lowest error rate is higher than 3.0.
3. In 10 matches Hank played against a friend of Robi's on TMG for
money, Hank's Snowie error rate is an astoundingly low 2.124.
> Let the chips fall where they may. I have no doubt that there will be
> people who, no matter what they see, will hold to a prior bad opinion
> of me.
The question was never whether, as Hank put it once, he is a "good
player" when he's not using a bot to assist him; the question is
whether he's one of the best players in the world, if not the very best
online player! Playing two matches on MSN Zone now isn't going to make
these three facts go away.
ri...@notyahoo.com
What is the point? Hank obviously already thought of that. Notice how
he spoke about how he is not going to play quickly. I bet that he has
arranged to have someone watching the match from afar and calling the
moves to him. It would be very easy to set this up. He may have been
using the past few weeks to practice this technique.
Of course if he does this it will slow his play down. For those who
are watching (He conveniently has timed it in the middle of March
Madness NCAA playoffs so I won't be watching) take note whether Hank
plays the obvious moves lightening fast as he should. The speed at
which he plays will be the key to whether he is likely cheating.
Paul Weaver has offered to personally monitor his match at his
expense. Why not go with Paul Weaver since that would prevent *any*
cheating.
I predicted earlier that Hank was going to try to figure out a way to
cheat while being monitored. What do you want to bet that he is
planning to do just that in this case with the web cam. Never
underestimate the psychopath.
Rich
Robi
What time is it in GMT?
Your match records of this two matches, where can we download it after it?
From your website? Or you send it
by email?
Robi
"Hank Youngerman" <hankyou...@redtopbg.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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ri...@notyahoo.com
<hankyou...@redtopbg.com> wrote:
>Today, Sunday, March 26, I will play two 9pt matches on the MSN Gaming
>Zone. I have set up a webcam that has a view of my screen and hands.
>This will verify that I do not have any improper programs open on my
>computer, and that I am not manipulating another computer with my
>hands.
How do we know you don't have another person assisting you in your
cheating? Why not get Paul Weaver to monitor you?
> (I reserve the right to move my hands briefly to scratch my
>nose or the like.) Further, prior to the match, I will take my other
>two computers (many people know that I have 3) and hold them up to the
>webcam so that it can be seen they are not on, then put them on the
>table beside me.
Oh, that is convincing. I guess those are the only two computers on
the face of the earth that you and someone else could be using.
>
>I will play anyone available. If I play someone who deliberately plays
>ridiculous moves to create unfamiliar positions, I reserve the right to
>terminate the match and find a new opponent. I will probably just go
>sit at a table and play the first person who sits down with me.
Wonder if this first person is someone that Hank happens to have
arranged to play.
>
>I am not saying that I can play at a particular Snowie error rate.
No surprise there.
> I
>am also not saying that I will play at breakneck speed.
But how about the obvious moves? Those should be played at breakneck
speed.
> I expect to be
>extremely nervous and I have the right to think, but I am not going to
>spend interminable amounts of time after the dice are rolled and before
>moving - not that this should matter.
Interminable? Actually it should matter quite a bit how quickly you
move. It would be nice if someone like Robi could watch so that he
could compare the speed with the speed that Hank usually plays.
His bringing up nervousness is likely a preemptive explanation for his
poor play.
> We have all seen players in
>important live matches (or even unimportant ones) think for minutes
>about plays; I am entitled to a few seconds, with my hands in full
>view.
Wonder why he is making such a big deal about how much time he is
going to take? Maybe because in his practice sessions he realizes that
slow play will likely give him away.
>
>Anyone who wishes may view the webcam by using the Yahoo Messenger
>address redtopswebcam. I will allow all who wish to watch, unless
>there are computer limitations I am unaware of. (I have only tested
>this with up to two viewers at once.) The only applications that will
>be open on my computer while playing are the MSN Zone and Yahoo
>Messenger. Toward the end of each match, I will open the Capture Log
>program to capture the match record.
>
>My webcam ID is online now and I will add anyone who asks to my contact
>list. Around 1:50 I will come online, go into the Doubling Cube room
>on the Zone, and invite the webcam viewers, planning to start around
>2:00.
Does not give much advance notice. I think he should set up a test
session today or some other time and allow many players to watch. Then
give enough notice to allow more players to watch the actual session
which should be more than two nine point matches. I would like to see
at least five nine point matches.
>
>Let the chips fall where they may. I have no doubt that there will be
>people who, no matter what they see, will hold to a prior bad opinion
>of me. I will not expect a silly little thing like facts to change
>some people's minds, one they are already made up.
The *fact* is that your Snowie equivalent error rate in a long series
of on line matches is astonishingly low. Hard to get around that fact.
You are either one of the best players in the world or one of the
luckiest. The only other possibility is that you cheated. This
"demonstration" will not be sufficient to exonerate you.
Rich
Robi
The Snowie Analzysis of this two matches I've seen on
http://www.steveworld.net/bg/snowie/hank1.html and
http://www.steveworld.net/bg/snowie/hank2.html
show Hank played at a world class level. In match 2 his error rate was below
3, in fact at 2.2! Well done.
"Hank Youngerman" <hankyou...@redtopbg.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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Stick
almost didn't read this post until I saw "Hank Youngerman" had posted
it.
Stick
Hank Youngerman
on topic?
GeoffA
camera showing your hands. It took 3 weeks for this? How about you
explain all your past Lying? Waiting.....
Waiting.....Waiting.......When you play live over a board or play bg
with a witness in the room (someone the bg world can trust). Then
perhaps I might admit your not a bot cheat. But you will always be a
lying sack of ****. Sorry to rain on your little ego parade.
Zorba
> I watched 1 1/2 matches on the Zone and also the webcam.
>
> The Snowie Analzysis of this two matches I've seen on
> http://www.steveworld.net/bg/snowie/hank1.html and
> http://www.steveworld.net/bg/snowie/hank2.html
> show Hank played at a world class level. In match 2 his error rate was below
> 3, in fact at 2.2! Well done.
And in match 1 it was 4.4, just to be complete.
FWIW, the opponents played in a different league, 10.5 and 11.2
respectively, "intermediate".
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