Re: The Psychology of Backgammon
Jason911
"Nige M" <acu...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:ypLug.2213$5B3...@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> We are all looking for an edge in a game that has no boundaries with
> regards to software, books, magazines, and articles etc.
This means nothing. The same could be said for the game of chess, yet the
average "tournament" chess player still has an elo of about 1600. Just like
everything else in life, there is a bell curve. Everyone can be "looking for
an edge", but only those with sufficient intelligence and talent will become
strong in their chosen endeavor. The main reason a guy like me can, and has,
made a living playing backgammon, is that most people are pretty simple
minded and have little ability or inclination to learn and improve the depth
of their understanding. They will keep making the same irrational and
emotionally charged decisions and will never learn.
JMR
Michael Petch
I am an easy mark. I'm one of the weakling morons who is loser. Despite
that I'd be willing to play you over the board for 50$/pt. I do the
occasional work for MTS and swing by your area occasionally. Maybe we can
meet up?
On 7/18/06 6:10 AM, in article bd4vg.208157$Mn5.199400@pd7tw3no, "Jason911"
Stick
Hell ... I don't get to play for money that often, if you want to give
it a whirl let me know. I don't play bg online for money but could if
that's the only way you can do it. I'll be leaving for Europe on
Monday and can always make a trip somewhere for some fun backgammon.
Stick -- send this smile over to you
-Jason911
misquoting people. What I said was, I "made a living playing backgammon in
the past". I didn't say I currently play professionally. If you don't
understand the difference, I'm afraid you're going to have your work cut out
for you in developing skill at games like chess or backgammon. They greatly
demand attention to detail and accuracy. And I'm totally willing to play
with you either live, or online Michael......you don't need to try to sell
me with this "I'm an easy mark" gettup. I have accounts at GammonEmpire,
Play65, PartyGammon, and I have a regulation size board with precision dice
(I'm willing to use your dice also, so long as they're precision and not
some dollar store crap). The only problem is that I haven't played for
.50/pt since I was 15. That's pretty much the same as playing for nothing to
me. I'm not in the habbit of giving lessons that cheaply. If you want to
crack open that piggy bank and play for 5.00/pt or more we're in business.
Let me know.
Regards,
Jason
"Michael Petch" <mpe...@capp-sysware.com> wrote in message
news:C0E260CA.1840E%mpe...@capp-sysware.com...
Grunty
Mike, excuse me for intervening, but this contest is getting
interesting...
The man is used to pay close "attention to detail and accuracy". So
much in fact that he sees a dot where no dot exists.
If he looks at his rolls this way, you'd be well adviced to play him
over a real board, with the "error stands at opponent discretion" rule
in effect.
-Jason911
"Grunty" <grunti...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1153260718.8...@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
OMG, are you really this pathetic? You must be one of those minimum wage
office clerks with too much time on your hands. Probably another one of
those backgammon playmoney idiots. Sorry kiddo, but I don't go over my
usenet group postings to make sure there are no spelling/grammar errors. I
concern myself with attention to detail in matters that count.
JMR
Michael Petch
On 7/18/06 3:09 PM, in article V5cvg.206240$iF6.52812@pd7tw2no, "-Jason911"
<nce_0_an...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> First of all, you should try to pay a bit more attention to detail and avoid
> misquoting people. What I said was, I "made a living playing backgammon in
> the past". I didn't say I currently play professionally.
Chuckle. Okay You played professionally for Seven years in the past. I have
played professionally for 0 years.
> If you don't
> understand the difference, I'm afraid you're going to have your work cut out
> for you in developing skill at games like chess or backgammon. They greatly
> demand attention to detail and accuracy. And I'm totally willing to play
> with you either live, or online Michael......you don't need to try to sell
> me with this "I'm an easy mark" gettup.
I prefer live. Anyone who gambles for money on the internet is asking for
trouble. Secondly, this is as much about a sociological study than a whether
I lose my shirt or not (Quite likely - but trust me you do not want to see
me without my shirt - that's pretty scary)
> I have accounts at GammonEmpire,
> Play65, PartyGammon,
Nix this. I'm not stupid.
> and I have a regulation size board with precision dice
> (I'm willing to use your dice also, so long as they're precision and not
> some dollar store crap).
I'm not sure I'm suppose to be impressed here. I said I don't play
professionally but even I have a regulation board and precision dice. You
bring your dice I'll bring mine, we can worry about the minutia when we
meet. It doesn't bother me either way. You may be a bit socially challenged
but that doesn't mean you are a cheater.
> The only problem is that I haven't played for
> .50/pt since I was 15. That's pretty much the same as playing for nothing to
>
For someone who said earlier in this post " They greatly demand attention to
detail and accuracy" I have to assume that your great attention to detail
means that you are either a) mathematically challenged or b) comprehension
challenged or c) reading challenged (or any combination there of). If you
actually took the time to read my post I never said .50/pt . Is it possible
you ended your 7 years as a professional BG player because these areas of
comprehension were beyond your capacity to learn? I don't know myself.
> me. I'm not in the habbit of giving lessons that cheaply. If you want to
> crack open that piggy bank and play for 5.00/pt or more we're in business.
> Let me know.
At 5$/pt that doesn't even make it worth my while. Please get someone with a
grade 1 education to explain what I originally posted (said).
>
> Regards,
>
> Jason
>
>
Michael
Michael Petch
On 7/18/06 4:20 PM, in article Z8dvg.206314$iF6.77711@pd7tw2no, "-Jason911"
<nce_0_an...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> OMG, are you really this pathetic? You must be one of those minimum wage
> office clerks with too much time on your hands. Probably another one of
> those backgammon playmoney idiots. Sorry kiddo, but I don't go over my
> usenet group postings to make sure there are no spelling/grammar errors. I
> concern myself with attention to detail in matters that count.
>
Hey this works for me. Since its irrelevent and actually value isn't
important. I take you up on the offer. When I win you pay me 50$/pt and when
you win I pay you .50/pt. This works for me.
> JMR
>
>
-Jason911
> Hey this works for me. Since its irrelevent and actually value isn't
> important. I take you up on the offer. When I win you pay me 50$/pt and
> when
> you win I pay you .50/pt. This works for me.
lol, what exactly is "irrelevent" there Michael? And what is this "value
isn't important" nonsense? What meanderings are going on in your tiny brain
this time buddy? FYI, $5.00/point is what is considered by backgammon
players to be a small stakes game. You can bring as little as $100 to our
live backgammon session when you come to play me in Winnipeg.
JMR
-Jason911
>
>
> On 7/18/06 3:09 PM, in article V5cvg.206240$iF6.52812@pd7tw2no,
> "-Jason911"
> <nce_0_an...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>> First of all, you should try to pay a bit more attention to detail and
>> avoid
>> misquoting people. What I said was, I "made a living playing backgammon
>> in
>> the past". I didn't say I currently play professionally.
>
> played professionally for 0 years.
I know that Michael. It wouldn't be much of a "profession" if it had a
negative cash flow, now would it. Poor kid...did your mother booze alot
while pregnant with you?
>
>> If you don't
>> understand the difference, I'm afraid you're going to have your work cut
>> out
>> for you in developing skill at games like chess or backgammon. They
>> greatly
>> demand attention to detail and accuracy. And I'm totally willing to play
>> with you either live, or online Michael......you don't need to try to
>> sell
>> me with this "I'm an easy mark" gettup.
>
> I prefer live. Anyone who gambles for money on the internet is asking for
> trouble.
I partially agree with that statement. I find the online rakes atrocious.
But the results speak for themself. I'm up a significant amount of money
from my online play. And as I said before....I have no problem meeting you
live. We can use my set or yours.
>Secondly, this is as much about a sociological study than a whether
> I lose my shirt or not (Quite likely - but trust me you do not want to see
> me without my shirt - that's pretty scary)
I'll trust you on that one.
>
>> I have accounts at GammonEmpire,
>> Play65, PartyGammon,
>
> Nix this. I'm not stupid.
I dont' get it. Are those sites supposed to be bad?
>
>> and I have a regulation size board with precision dice
>> (I'm willing to use your dice also, so long as they're precision and not
>> some dollar store crap).
>
> I'm not sure I'm suppose to be impressed here.
Not at all. Just stating fact. In the past beginners like you have tried to
get me to play with dollar store dice. I would like you to know in advance
that is a no go.
Now I know you're pretty dumb Michael. You've made that fact 100% clear by
your previous postings. But try to pull it together for once in your mogrel
existance so we can make the necessary arrangements.
Michael Petch
LMAO, you know there are probably a lot of people just laughing at this. I
don't think you realize what mistake you have made.
> lol, what exactly is "irrelevent" there Michael? And what is this "value
> isn't important" nonsense? What meanderings are going on in your tiny brain
You declared spell checking and grammar errors irrelevant when its something
that doesn't count. You are out here whining about the Stake I set and how
childish it was. Go back and get a grade 1 student to explain my post to
you. I didn't set the stake at 50 cents, I didn't set the stake at 5$. I set
the stake where it was worth my while.
> this time buddy? FYI, $5.00/point is what is considered by backgammon
> players to be a small stakes game. You can bring as little as $100 to our
> live backgammon session when you come to play me in Winnipeg.
>
Read My post. PLEASE. Then get back to me and agree on MY Stake. And I'll be
willing to cap it at 1k for the session.
> JMR
>
>
Michael
Grunty
( LOL )
Not even.....taking him by hand....
(( LMAO ))
And I warned him.....in the other thread....don't make a.....oh my....
((( ROFLMAO )))
I'm pathetic....playmoney idiot.....kiddo....!
(((( ROFLMFAO ))))
Ohh..ohh...side hurts.....!!!
-Jason911
before the numbers, and not after, that's your problem. It is the в sign
that goes after the numbers, as in 50в/point, not 50$/point. Was that simple
enough for you to understand little Mikey? I hope I didn't use any words too
big for you to grasp. I believe they teach these sort of concepts around
grade 3 or 4. Did you even get that far?
I would love nothing better than to play open points backgammon with an
IMBECILE like yourself for the stake of $50.00/point, but for those stakes I
would expect my opponent to have a minimum of $1,000.00 and I highly doubt a
guy like you has ever seen $1,000.00 let alone had that much money at one
time. But in the event I'm wrong and you inherited some money from your
crack whore mother's insurance policy or such, I will agree to meet you on
the condition you show up alone, ie; no stepmothers or boyfriends,(I will be
alone also) and the willingness to show me that you've got at least a grand
to play with (I will show that much as well).
I am 99% sure you're just a mouthpiece punk loser that likes to bullshit on
the internet while hiding behind your keyboard, but I have all day this
Saturday to play and i'm willing to arrange a session then. If, or much more
likely, when, you don't show up, you'll have to change your account name on
this usenet to avoid further embarassment.
Otherwise, get your fat ass down to the Green Briar Hotel at 2:00 Saturday
July 22 on the conditions I stipulated.
-Jason911
this guy is an out of work factory monkey that lives in his mother's
basement!
Adam
-Jason911 wrote:
> Does this "<substitute arbitrary rgb poster>" faggot realize how incredibly stupid he appears? I bet
Michael Petch
On 7/19/06 1:04 AM, in article PPkvg.213917$IK3.64038@pd7tw1no, "-Jason911"
<nce_0_an...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> Michael, if you're too fucking retarded to understand that the $ sign goes
> before the numbers, and not after, that's your problem. It is the в sign
> that goes after the numbers, as in 50в/point, not 50$/point. Was that simple
> enough for you to understand little Mikey? I hope I didn't use any words too
> big for you to grasp. I believe they teach these sort of concepts around
> grade 3 or 4. Did you even get that far?
>
Chuckle. You can not face that you can not tell the difference between CENTS
and DOLLARS. Not only that you even appended a PERIOD in front of my value.
And in case you didn't know. Placing currency value at the end is perfectly
acceptable. In some countries its the default to put it at the end. Some at
the beginning.
Typical rant from you. DOLLARS - CENTS there is a difference. Putting a
period in front of my value was even worse.
> I would love nothing better than to play open points backgammon with an
> IMBECILE like yourself for the stake of $50.00/point, but for those stakes I
> would expect my opponent to have a minimum of $1,000.00.
LMAO Wow we agree. I already said I'd play for 1k (More if you wish). Just
check my last post yesterday.
> and I highly doubt a
> guy like you has ever seen $1,000.00 let alone had that much money at one
> time. But in the event I'm wrong and you inherited some money from your
> crack whore mother's insurance policy or such,
If you think insulting myself or my family is going to turn me off - you are
mistaken. Clearly my 50$/pt stake is a little rich for your blood. Its
ironic how you want to dictate all the terms when you realize my stake was
10 times what you were suggesting. The difference between where I live
(Calgary) is that we make more than the average dirt farmer (assuming the
Red River didn't wash the dirt away).
> I will agree to meet you on
> the condition you show up alone, ie; no stepmothers or boyfriends,(I will be
> alone also) and the willingness to show me that you've got at least a grand
> to play with (I will show that much as well).
>
Heck I have to fly out there. I'm not bringing anyone. But I'm glad to know
you won't have your associates and friends there. However I may ask someone
working at the locale to verify the results.
> I am 99% sure you're just a mouthpiece punk loser that likes to bullshit on
> the internet while hiding behind your keyboard, but I have all day this
> Saturday to play and i'm willing to arrange a session then. If, or much more
> likely, when, you don't show up, you'll have to change your account name on
> this usenet to avoid further embarassment.
>
Now you are setting the time and place. No negotiation? May I ask why? I
think the answer to all this is very simple. First off my name is Michael
Petch, I live at Suite 1002, 1140-15th AVE SW, Calgary Alberta, T2R-1K6. My
home number is (403)209-1628, cell phone (403)804-5700. I'm not an anonymous
person, and neither are you Mr Repa.
> Otherwise, get your fat ass down to the Green Briar Hotel at 2:00 Saturday
> July 22 on the conditions I stipulated.
>
>
This isn't going to work. You want to set a schedule that is convenient only
to yourself. I am willing to work this so it is in BOTH our interests and to
cover some of your metaphorically colored issues. In my original post I said
I occasionally to into your area for work at MTS. Right up front when you
engaged in all this you KNEW my situation and have not mentioned any issue
with it - until now.
I have the money, and 1,000 is peanuts. What I suggest is we use an Escrow
mechanism. We mutually agree upon a 3rd party (and there are companies that
will do this, but I would accept an individual that we can mutually agree on
as well) to act as escrow agent.
Prior to playing we both transfer the maximum value of our session. At the
moment it seems to be 1k (And I am willing to put 1k in escrow prior to
July 22nd and keep it in escrow for 6 months). We come up with an agreement
that is given to our escrow agent on how the money will be paid out (based
on results). We set a date and time that is mutually agreed upon in the
Winnipeg area in the 6 month time frame.
After we get a result from our money session escrow pays us out base don
result.
So you will know that my money exists, I know your money exists, and a 3rd
party is retained to broker collection and payout.
I don't see where any of my proposal is unfair to you or burdensome. I am
willing to listen to any other plan that is fair for both parties.
Michael
On a side note we can find an escrow agency or find someone we can mutually
agree upon. For instance maybe we could pick one of the top 50 players in
the world (who would be willing to act as escrow). Unfortunately I don't
think you like #50 in the world since you claimed he was a "a broke loser
with too much time on your hands, and too little talent for anything".
-Jason911
>
>
>
> On 7/19/06 1:04 AM, in article PPkvg.213917$IK3.64038@pd7tw1no,
> "-Jason911"
> <nce_0_an...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>> Michael, if you're too fucking retarded to understand that the $ sign
>> goes
>> before the numbers, and not after, that's your problem. It is the в sign
>> that goes after the numbers, as in 50в/point, not 50$/point. Was that
>> simple
>> enough for you to understand little Mikey? I hope I didn't use any words
>> too
>> big for you to grasp. I believe they teach these sort of concepts around
>> grade 3 or 4. Did you even get that far?
>>
>
> Chuckle. You can not face that you can not tell the difference between
> CENTS
> and DOLLARS.
Michael you fetal-alcohol-syndrome imbecile.....I just proved, and in a way
that a 6 year old could understand, that it is YOU that can't tell the
difference between CENTS and DOLLARS. Your self-depricating humour is really
quite entertaining.
Not only that you even appended a PERIOD in front of my value.
> And in case you didn't know. Placing currency value at the end is
> perfectly
> acceptable. In some countries its the default to put it at the end. Some
> at
> the beginning.
>
>> I would love nothing better than to play open points backgammon with an
>> IMBECILE like yourself for the stake of $50.00/point, but for those
>> stakes I
>> would expect my opponent to have a minimum of $1,000.00.
>
> LMAO Wow we agree. I already said I'd play for 1k (More if you wish). Just
> check my last post yesterday.
>
>> and I highly doubt a
>> guy like you has ever seen $1,000.00 let alone had that much money at one
>> time. But in the event I'm wrong and you inherited some money from your
>> crack whore mother's insurance policy or such,
>
> If you think insulting myself or my family is going to turn me off - you
> are
> mistaken. Clearly my 50$/pt stake is a little rich for your blood.
I agreed to play you for $50.00/point my illiterate friend. And that was the
stake that YOU chose. I could have requested a higher amount, but I really
want this match to happen so I am willing to go for the amount that YOU
chose. And I never suggested we play for $5.00/point you braindead punk.
Because of your inability to understand where a dollar sign goes, I thought
you were asking for a 50 cent/point match. I said the MINIMUM I would play
for is $5.00/point. I didn't SUGGEST $5.00/point. Can you grasp this concept
yet idiot? Re-read my posts a few times until this concept sinks into your
skull.
It looks as though you're now BACKING DOWN as I predicted you would. Like I
said, I was 99% sure you were nothing more than a bullshitting jackass
mouthpiece that hides behind a keyboard. Now everyone can see that it's
true. I agree to your stake without hesitation and when I make concrete
arrangements for this session you go running with your tail between your
legs, making excuses why you can't play. So predictable!
And If I wanted to be "anonymous" kiddo, I would make my posts through proxy
servers and certainly not use my real name, as I've always done. I even
freely circulate my photos on the internet. I would love nothing more than
some frustrated loser like yourself to get worked up from some internet
quarral and come to Winnipeg to committ suicide.
and ps; I didn't know they fly janitors from Calgary to Winnipeg.
Jason Repa
Michael Petch
Jerry Springer so here we go:
On 7/19/06 5:28 PM, in article uezvg.214909$IK3.128724@pd7tw1no, "-Jason911"
<nce_0_an...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>
> I agreed to play you for $50.00/point my illiterate friend. And that was the
> stake that YOU chose. I could have requested a higher amount, but I really
> want this match to happen so I am willing to go for the amount that YOU
> chose. And I never suggested we play for $5.00/point you braindead punk.
> Because of your inability to understand where a dollar sign goes, I thought
> you were asking for a 50 cent/point match. I said the MINIMUM I would play
> for is $5.00/point. I didn't SUGGEST $5.00/point. Can you grasp this concept
> yet idiot? Re-read my posts a few times until this concept sinks into your
> skull.
>
Actually you agreed to play for 50$/pt which I stated right at the
beginning. Its higher than the blathering you did about 50cent stakes and 5$
stakes for half a day.My view on it being too rich for you was because you
imposed a deadline of this Saturday and in my opinion this is because you
are afraid given any more time, I will show up, and you might actually lose
your money to a moron. I can read between the lines just as badly as you do
:)
> It looks as though you're now BACKING DOWN as I predicted you would. Like I
> said, I was 99% sure you were nothing more than a bullshitting jackass
> mouthpiece that hides behind a keyboard. Now everyone can see that it's
> true.
Hardly, The funny thing is that people in this NG know my offer is serious.
So much so (and I would hope that some of the people who have contacted me
might step in) that they are willing to act as escrow, AND in one case is
willing to go to Winnipeg to ensure that any table disputes are handled. Not
only am I taking this seriously Jason, but so are others here.
You talk about Backing down. The only thing you have done is indicate that
the only offer is a take it or leave it "July 22nd" where I have to trust
that YOU are even good for the money. Better chance Albertans have cash
laying around than a manitoban. Heck we transfer money to your Province so I
guess I help with your social assistance - in some strange way I'm getting a
chance to get back some of the money I have sent your way :)
Here is my counter proposal. If you want to meet July 22nd we meet in the
middle. We both fly to Regina and play there (even if its in the airport).
The problem there is - I'm pretty sure you wouldn't show up. And I'd take my
video camera etc. Unfortunately I do not think you would fly to Regina and
you will post back that I am an imbecile and retard for suggesting that for
July 22nd - You would have to do anything.
> I agree to your stake without hesitation and when I make concrete
> arrangements for this session you go running with your tail between your
> legs, making excuses why you can't play. So predictable!
>
You agree to my stake but the hesitation is that you want to set a deadline
this weekend because you know I'm the one who has to fly a 3rd of a
continent to play a match against someone who may nt show up himself, and
may not even have the money. The fact is right up front you knew I only make
occasional trips your way. I never said I would go out and play you in 3
days. Had I not mentioned it originally then you would have had an argument.
When you got into this, you were fully aware of that :)
> And If I wanted to be "anonymous" kiddo, I would make my posts through proxy
> servers and certainly not use my real name, as I've always done. I even
> freely circulate my photos on the internet. I would love nothing more than
> some frustrated loser like yourself to get worked up from some internet
> quarral and come to Winnipeg to committ suicide.
>
The funny thing is you got this far and you didn't make one negative
observation about MY idea for escrow to prove that YOU are good for the
money AND I am good for it. You yammered away in your post about me PROBABLY
not having the money yet funny thing is we don't know you are good for it
either, and you have not given a counter proposal that would validate your
financial situation.
I asked you for a better proposal and you neither had any counterpoints
against mine, nor did you have one. And I asked you to suggest something
better. It seems like any idea where you would have to put your money
upfront (and I would to) is not amicable to you. Not sure why that is but
you got to wonder why Mike would give his money to a 3rd party but you would
not.
Remember I am looking to you - my intellectual superior, and a man of vastly
more knowledge and intellectual capability to pick my idea a part and
propose a plan that is fair and far better than anything a moron could
propose. Simply put if you thought this was an easy $1,000 you'd be more
reasonable unless you are afraid you could lose it as well.
> and ps; I didn't know they fly janitors from Calgary to Winnipeg.
>
I guess you don't know how much janitors in Calgary get paid ;-).
> Jason Repa
>
I won't end it there. Here is my accounting of this. I am the one who
proposed going out to Winnipeg on one of the few occasions. I proposed
50$/pt and I am the first one to set a value at 1,000$. These values you
ultimately agreed with. So the stakes are not an issue.
You are demanding I fly from Calgary to Winnipeg 2 days from now to play
against a person who has no plan to prove that a) he is good for the 1,000$
or will even show up. I'm the one at risk. You can sit back and do nothing
and spend negligible money, and not bother showing up - and it won't hurt
you in the slightest. You can screw me from the comfort of your own
cardboard box.
Your response is indication that you are backing down. For the superior
intellect you have not provided and means to know you are good for the
money, nor do you want to make it fair for me to make it out your way.
Anyone reading this would see that you are afraid of something, and you may
be doing your best to ensure you don't have to play.
So I ask again. Provide counterpoints to my escrow idea which will force us
to put our money up front and then we play and get paid out of escrow at the
end. Why is this Backing out? Why is this a bad idea? And what does
superior intellect think is better? And can you explain what is so special
about July 22nd?
In the end if anyone is backing down - it MAY be you.
A) you are the superior player
B) I am a moron
C) my IQ is lucky to be higher than a Pacostamus
With such an easy target and your far more skilled backgammon playing, I'm
wondering why you wouldn't want to accommodate the person who is even
willing to put his money up front? What do you have to lose? Or is
potentially losing to a moron with the IQ of a Pacostamus - within the realm
of possibility and you couldn't fathom handing money over to a mere janitor
whose job it is to clean the inside of some fat ugly woman's fish tank?
Give this forum a proposal that proves you are not trying to dodge playing
an idiot. Cause right now all indicators are you don't want to play me.
Michael
Michael Petch
An an addendum to my escrow idea I am more than willing to do this. Once the
money is in escrow we must use this forum to arrange a MUTUAL agreed upon
date time and place (In Winnipeg - NOT Calgary). The arrangement
(contract/agreement) with escrow would be that once place/time/date is set -
If I fail to show up I forfeit all my cash in escrow. If you fail to show up
you forfeit all your cash.
At the very least I will capture to video the entire money session (If no
party is allowed to watch from the outside).
Some other things are how we intend to handle any dispute regarding
cheating, misthrown rolls etc. One individual has contacted me to at least
suggest they would come out to Winnipeg to arbitrate. This was a suggestion,
and I am presenting ideas. I am not proposing this is acceptable to you.
Right now I'd rather be constructive about playing you.
On 7/19/06 6:25 PM, in article C0E429B0.1AD92%mpe...@capp-sysware.com,
-Jason911
because you're too FUCKING DUMB to understand that a dollar sign goes BEFORE
the numbers, not after. Even after all this explanation I've given
you....you still don't understand. Are you really this dumb or is this an
act?
You clearly backed down when I started to make concrete details to play.
Everyone following this thread saw it with their own two eyes. You started
to make excuses right away, demanding escrow, etc. Why would I want to give
money to an escrow service for nothing? That makes no logical sense. And you
know that. This is just a pretense to your BACKING DOWN from playing. You're
even so bold as to suggest some fudge-packer buddy of yours to hold the
money. You couldn't make stuff up this funny. I agreed to meet you for a
backgammon session, at your stake, and you backed right down. Everyone saw
that.
Not only did you back down from from meeting me for a live session, but you
backed down from my offer to play you on the internet. That would solve any
possible security or payment concerns, but alas, you never did really have
any intention to play in the first place. I have $687.00 in my Play65
account right now and I could easily make that $1,000 or $1,500 for a
$50.00/point session. But again, you never did have any intention (nor do
you have the money) to play. Paying Play65 house commissions would be
cheaper than flying to Winnipeg so your nonsense doesn't have a leg to stand
on.
All you can do is mouth off while hiding behind your computer. You never did
have any intention of actually playing. You've made that very obvious. The
amazing thing is that you continue to embarass yourself by posting. I
expected you to change your mail server ID by now.
And I never said anything is so special about July 22. Not only are you a
snivelling coward, you're a complete BULLSHITER. It is simply a Saturday
that I am free to play backgammon on. I also made that quite clear. Unlike
you, have more going on in my life than a 37.5 hr a week janitor job. And
also unlike you, I actually was prepared to meet you to play, so I set a
concrete date, and as expected, you started making excuses why you can't
play. As I've said before....you are so predictable.
JMR
-Jason911
play you. This escrow pretense is getting really tiring.
Michael Petch
On 7/19/06 7:25 PM, in article kYAvg.209165$iF6.11079@pd7tw2no, "-Jason911"
<nce_0_an...@shaw.ca> wrote:
We can dispense with all the nonsensical clutter that everyone knew we'd
have to wade through to find something to work with to this position (You
are predictable that way so we'll ignore it)
>
> And I never said anything is so special about July 22.
-----
GREAT. Nothing Special about July 22nd. How about Saturday August 26th. But
you need to agree to some form of escrow (and its funny you still haven't
come up with any counter argument against it). You AND I need to prove we
are BOTH good for the money. And I will go to Winnipeg if I knew you (And I)
get the others money in the event of a no show and that an independent
person (or company) that we BOTH agree on. This ensures that we will get
paid (You claim you don't trust me to have the money and I claim I don't
trust you). Anyone who can't concede there is merit here is not interested
in playing a match legitimately.
Up until you must assume that morons wouldn't want to ensure you were good
for the money. Any professional player out there who plays live matches (and
hasn't been totally bored yet)- feel free to give Jason and I advice :).
------
More noosense rambling that has no bearing on this below and we can ignore.
>Not only are you a
> snivelling coward, you're a complete BULLSHITER. It is simply a Saturday
> that I am free to play backgammon on. I also made that quite clear. Unlike
> you, have more going on in my life than a 37.5 hr a week janitor job. And
> also unlike you, I actually was prepared to meet you to play, so I set a
> concrete date, and as expected, you started making excuses why you can't
> play. As I've said before....you are so predictable.
>
> JMR
>
>
Michael
Michael Petch
And Jason before you go all Ballistababe again:
> trust you). Anyone who can't concede there is merit here is not interested
> in playing a match legitimately.
>
This should have been "Money Session" - Not match.
Michael Petch
On 7/19/06 7:29 PM, in article j0Bvg.209184$iF6.176489@pd7tw2no, "-Jason911"
<nce_0_an...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> Stop the nonsense Michael. Every can see you backed down from my offer to
> play you. This escrow pretense is getting really tiring.
>
>
Lmao "escrow pretense". Yeah that would be a bad pretense (If I were in your
shoes) if you weren't good for the money or you might not be that much
smarter than the moron. You mean you don't want the moron to collect his
money if he happens to win :). Or you want the moron to go to Winnipeg where
you don't intend to show up?
I am willing to forgo escrow on a few conditions. That we play our money
session at some (prearranged) neutral venue with other Backgammon players.
One such Idea would be that we both go to some Canadian (I would accept an
American one too) backgammon event outside of Calgary, and Winnipeg. If one,
the other (or both) don't show then there are a pile of people to witness
the no show, and the other person will be ridiculed in this forum. In my
case if there is a no show by you then I have not wasted the trip.
A second method of forgoing escrow is that you fly out to Calgary and play
me. If you come here I won't need to worry if you don't show up. You would
do the same thing in my shoes. You'd want proof I was legite before flying
here.
I have been very gracious about this whole thing. And I know I am fighting a
losing battle (But I will not give up) because everyone in this forum knows
whatever equitable and amicable arrangement a moron comes up with you don't
intend to find any merit in it, nor will you find any amicable mechanism
YOURSELF. I want to play you. Do you want to play me? The forum isn't supid,
and honestly - neither am I ;-)
Michael
-Jason911
Escrow service. There is no need for that. I am prepared to show you $1,000
cash (actually, I'd probably bring more). I know this is your pretense for
backing out of the session and you're really starting to bore the heck out
of me. We've been over this again and again. And I also agreed to play you
online. I also made it clear that I wasn't married to the date of this
Saturday, your other pretense for backing down. You backed down to both
offers so stop wasting my time. Everyone here can see you're a bullshitter
and a coward.
JMR
-Jason911
time to time you bullshitting jackass so stop this crap about how you would
be "risking a plane trip to come to play me" You have proven over and over
again that you're a liar and a coward. You always have an excuse for why you
won't play. And you won't even acknowledge my REPEATED offers to play you
online. Go and find so sand to bury your head in moron
JMR
"Michael Petch" <mpe...@capp-sysware.com> wrote in message
news:C0E4464A.1ADAA%mpe...@capp-sysware.com...
-Jason911
Another nonsense post from the bullshitting coward where he refused to
acknowledge the fact that i've REPEATEDLY offered to meet him for a live
MONEY SESSION and even at THE EXACT STAKES HE REQUESTED. He also won't
acknowledge the fact that i've REPEATEDLY offered to meet him online at the
EXACT STAKES HE REQUESTED. How much more obvious can it be what this guy is
about?
JMR
Michael Petch
But lets take another angle. I promise that if you fly to Calgary (I'll
accept any reasonable date and time where westjet has a reasonable rate) I
will pay for your airline flight (return) on top of any session payment
after the money session is complete.
The session is 50$/pt to a maximum of 1,000$.
No escrow. Seems like a fair deal.
Michael
On 7/19/06 8:46 PM, in article o8Cvg.215742$IK3.125354@pd7tw1no, "-Jason911"
Michael Petch
On 7/19/06 8:50 PM, in article fcCvg.215782$IK3.82671@pd7tw1no, "-Jason911"
<nce_0_an...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> You already said repeatedly that you have to come to Winnipeg ANYWAY from
> time to time you bullshitting jackass so stop this crap about how you would
AHA. Now we have got somewhere! I was waiting for you to ask this very
question. And I am glad you admit I said that! I mean this is just awesome
you asked.
I deliberately let that off as an option so either you'd ignore it or
challenge me on it! (I bet against the challenge so you surprised me)
HOWEVER, I am fully committed to play you with NO ESCROW - When I happen to
be IN Winnipeg on business! The problem with what you did is to demand that
my business trip be July 22nd!
I am not flying to Winnipeg without a reason. It was your demand it occur on
July 22nd that was THE ISSUE. Not sure where "On Occasion" meant I had a
business trip on July 22nd???
SO YES, I am willing to go to Winnipeg without ESCROW involved to play you
when my business trip takes me there. I am all for it! Had you not put July
22nd down as "The Date/Place/Time" and demanded that I agree to it I would
have been more than happy to arrange a get together when I was in town.
I AM ALL FOR playing you 50$/pt to a maximum of $1000 when my next business
trip takes me to Winnipeg this year. When that business trip is scheduled I
will contact you here. If you demand ANY other date then I need a reason to
go out there, and you have to put money in escrow.
WOW THANKS. Finally, we got through to the heart of the matter. Wow, long
couple days but glad we are all settled.
Michael
Michael Petch
the table.
On 7/19/06 9:08 PM, in article C0E44FE5.1ADAF%mpe...@capp-sysware.com,
-Jason911
The problem with what you did is to demand that
> my business trip be July 22nd!
You're a blatant liar Michael. Nowhere in any of my posts did I once demand
we play on July 22. This is also the fourth or fifth time you refused to
even acknowledge my offer to play at YOUR SUGGESTED STAKES at an online
site. You've made it 100 % clear to everyone here you're nothing but a
mouthpiece usenet troll and have no intention whatsoever of playing me. I'm
bored of this cat and mouse game with you so i'm going to do something I
probably should have done a couple of days ago when it was already clear to
me you had no intention of playing. [PLONK]
JMR
Michael Petch
quote him here. Man lucky this is a quiet evening so I can re
On 7/19/06 10:17 PM, in article XtDvg.210005$iF6.1210@pd7tw2no, "-Jason911"
<nce_0_an...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> The problem with what you did is to demand that
>> my business trip be July 22nd!
>
> You're a blatant liar Michael. Nowhere in any of my posts did I once demand
> we play on July 22.
Okay this is just getting comical. I don't even think any of this needs my
commentary so I'll let your words stand for themselves:
---
I would love nothing better than to play open points backgammon with an
IMBECILE like yourself for the stake of $50.00/point, but for those stakes I
would expect my opponent to have a minimum of $1,000.00
[snip]
Otherwise, get your fat ass down to the Green Briar Hotel at 2:00 Saturday
July 22 on the conditions I stipulated.
---
The full context of the message is here:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.backgammon/msg/62d55ec15f7fad04
> This is also the fourth or fifth time you refused to
> even acknowledge my offer to play at YOUR SUGGESTED STAKES at an online
> site.
The moron (me) requested a live match (and my reason is to avoid accusations
both ways of internet cheating - help from a bot Gnubg/JellyFish/ A real
life world class player playing as one of us etc etc.). I'm a bit surprised
the professional player of 7 years has a problem with playing for money
live. But onto some quotes. I said I wanted over the board right from the
start. Legitimate request by any means:
---
[snip]
I am an easy mark. I'm one of the weakling morons who is loser. Despite
that I'd be willing to play you OVER THE BOARD for 50$/pt
Quote from:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.backgammon/msg/79662058fbce3dc1?as_
umsgid=C0E260CA.1840E%25mp...@capp-sysware.com
My Response:
I prefer live. Anyone who gambles for money on the internet is asking for
trouble. Secondly, this is as much about a sociological study than a whether
I lose my shirt or not.
Qupte from:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.backgammon/browse_frm/thread/9caace
0840f2ef18/f0c65736b807aa95?lnk=gst&q=mpetch&rnum=1#f0c65736b807aa95
Your response:
I partially agree with that statement. I find the online rakes atrocious.
But the results speak for themself. I'm up a significant amount of money
from my online play. And as I said before....I HAVE NO PROBLEM MEETING YOU
LIVE.
Quote From:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.backgammon/browse_frm/thread/9caace
0840f2ef18/f0c65736b807aa95?lnk=gst&q=mpetch&rnum=1#f0c65736b807aa95
> You've made it 100 % clear to everyone here you're nothing but a
> mouthpiece usenet troll and have no intention whatsoever of playing me. I'm
> bored of this cat and mouse game with you so i'm going to do something I
> probably should have done a couple of days ago when it was already clear to
> me you had no intention of playing. [PLONK]
>
Lmao, and anyone who was reading this is probably on the floor kicking
themselves.
I wanted an over the board match. I tell him its foolish to play for money
online. He agrees he will play me live. He then gets the stakes all wrong
and goes on a 12 hour tirade, and then has to blame someone else for him not
paying attention. When he finds out the stake he stipulates the time place
and date and issued it as a demand. Rather than challenge him I use his onne
dimensional approach to online posting by getting him to argue my "time to
time" comment in my original post. So how he can dictate when I am suppose
to travel is beyond me. Considering the fact the guy doesn't have to lift a
finger except to play when I arrive there suggests he really doesn't want to
play live. And he has an escrow option if he wants me to play at any other
"Reasonable" date - so that I know I won't travel across the country to find
out he's a no show.
Now I guess I wonder. The moron (me) wants to play live(and requested live
up front and was adament why I don't play online for money!). The
professional agrees and then when he's losing the fight demand online play.
Why would a professional throw away the opportunity to play live against a
moron. The thing that concerns me now is Jason's remark about how well he
does playing online for money.
Is he afraid that if someone plays him over the board in Winnipeg that he
might not be the same caliber as online. Is there something we don't know.
My opinion is. I won't risk it. If he is a cheater (and I don't have any
evidence that he is) then he'll have to cheat harder in real life. I think
it was valid to request the match be recorded (videocam etc)
> JMR
>
>
My offer still stands. I will play him over the board for 50$/pt (1,000$
limit that he found acceptable) without escrow when my business trip next
quarter takes me past there again. It will cost him nothing but some time.
My offer still stands that I am willing to go to Winnipeg on a mutually
agreed upon time outside of business as long as money is in escrow so that I
don't go out and have him renege or not show up.
I will not play online as I said right from the start because gambling for
money on the net is foolish if you don't know your opponent is a cheater,
and this was acceptable to him.
My original offer has not changed, and he has more options to play me than
when this all started. It is up to Jason to decide if he wants avoid
playing. Only one person here who isn't interested in playing, isn't
interested in amicable ad fair conditions and has and is still trying to
bend over backwards to appease the other.
On the side note. The cat and mouse game isn't fun for him anymore because
he was hoping to get me embroiled ina war of words and abuse. When Iabused
myself more than anything it didn't play into the game he has played in the
chess NG's, the GO ng's. I will always remember Jason for his unprovoked
attack on Patti Beadles. That's his legacy. I chose to be better than that.
Jason on a final note about abuse. You play to win at arguments with verbal
abuse (95% of all your internet posts seem like they come from some hate
template you have). You believe if you attack people on the net that their
goal will to do the same thing back and play with the same goal in mind. The
reason you have no interest in me now is because I didn't play to win. I
played your game for a stalemate (with regards to attacks and abuse).
Reverse psychology works quite well.
And in the end you are walking away from an offer that costs you nothing
because you are not man enough to admit that there is a legitimate challenge
where you question your own ability to prevail. No one likes losing money to
a moron, especially in a bar.
Michael
-Jason911
> Jerry Springer would be proud. I'm surprised I have to state the obvious
> and
> quote him here. Man lucky this is a quiet evening so I can re
>
>
> On 7/19/06 10:17 PM, in article XtDvg.210005$iF6.1210@pd7tw2no,
> "-Jason911"
> <nce_0_an...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>>
>> The problem with what you did is to demand that
>>> my business trip be July 22nd!
>>
>> You're a blatant liar Michael. Nowhere in any of my posts did I once
>> demand
>> we play on July 22.
>
> Okay this is just getting comical.
It really is. You've proven to the entire group that you're a liar and a
snivelling coward. I can't believe you're still here!
> Otherwise, get your fat ass down to the Green Briar Hotel at 2:00 Saturday
> July 22 on the conditions I stipulated.
Looks to me like a proposed date for the session. In what way shape or form
did I state....or even remotely imply...that I "demand" you play on that
date and that date alone? This is even worse than your earlier blatant lying
when you stated that I "suggested" we play for $5.00/point when I said that
the MINIMUM I would play for is $5.00/point.
Seriously Michael...I've asked you this before but you didn't answer.....ARE
YOU REALLY THIS FUCKING STUPID OR IS THIS AN ACT?
Since you have made it patently clear that you have no intention of playing
backgammin with me......
[PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK]
[PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK]
[PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK]
[PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK]
[PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK]
[PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK]
[PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK]
[PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK]
JMR
Michael Petch
On 7/20/06 12:28 AM, in article ZnFvg.216299$IK3.10765@pd7tw1no, "-Jason911"
<nce_0_an...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>
>> Otherwise, get your fat ass down to the Green Briar Hotel at 2:00 Saturday
>> July 22 on the conditions I stipulated.
>
>
> Looks to me like a proposed date for the session.
That wasn't a proposal. It was a demand. There wa sn date for an optiion. In
fact you admit that I said I am in Winnipeg from "time to time - an argument
I got you to fight for ME. Where did you think that you'd be the one
proposing the date? Heck Time and Place I don't mind.
The Specific Time Date and Place ARE part of the Stipulation (Along with the
Stakes which I quoted from the same post).
Any person can see what happened here. The moment you found out what the
stake really was you all of a sudden got defensive and wanted to dictate all
the terms. No choice. This wasn't a negotiation. It was a demand. You not
only gave the stipulations of Date/Time/Place with no option but to get my
sorry ass down there indicates that your objective was to simply state a
Date that you knew I wouldn't go down for, so that you could claim "Oh look
he refuses to play".
Sorry, this NG may not be made of the same morons you seem to fight over in
chess. Maybe we are a higher caliber of moron.
And I told you, if you want me to go out there when its not a business trip
I am all for it. You just have to put up the money in escrow (I would to) so
that I know your intention is to have me fly out there with no intention of
playing. You want me to go out there with no assurances YOU are legite. At
least on business if you don' show up I'm only out a bit of time. And then I
can come back here and tell everyone how you were a no show.
> In what way shape or form
> did I state....or even remotely imply...that I "demand" you play on that
> date and that date alone?
Sure you have. I have said I'll play you without escrow when I am there on
business, as I indicated from my first post on the matter. July 22nd is the
ONLY time you have accepted as being legitimate. Ever since I challenged you
on it you have now refused to even play at all.
> This is even worse than your earlier blatant lying
> when you stated that I "suggested" we play for $5.00/point when I said that
> the MINIMUM I would play for is $5.00/point.
>
The problem for you is that you know you probably ran across someone who was
going to show up. And I figured you would have realized I had other motives
(besides playing) for meeting you in person. The "sociological study" - Lets
just put it this way. My main goal is to meet you in real life. And if I
lose $1000 - so be it. I am collecting anecdotal evidence for a book about
internet personas and hw they relate to real life character :). On the other
hand, I may not be the complete newbie moron loser player that I have
painted myself to be (and that you have exclaimed for 24hours+) ;-)
> Seriously Michael...I've asked you this before but you didn't answer.....ARE
> YOU REALLY THIS FUCKING STUPID OR IS THIS AN ACT?
>
Oh of course more vulgarities and abuse. We'll just skip over that. At least
you are predictable.
> Since you have made it patently clear that you have no intention of playing
> backgammin with me......
>
> [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK]
> [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK]
> [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK]
> [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK]
> [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK]
> [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK]
> [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK]
> [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK] [PLONK]
>
Do you need me to help you get your killfile working? I noticed you plonked
the previous message to this and it appears you saw my message after.
Filters aren't too difficult to create. I would be more than happy to hold
your hand and step you through the process if you wish cause clearly yours
isn't working.
> JMR
>
>
I would never PLONK you - you are too much entertainment. I don't have to
pay for cable TV :)
When you pull your head out of your lower orifice let me know, and we'll
arrange to play. My challenge stands.
Michael
Derek Ray
Hash: SHA1
- -Jason911 wrote:
> Another nonsense post from the bullshitting coward where he refused to
> acknowledge the fact that i've REPEATEDLY offered to meet him for a live
> MONEY SESSION and even at THE EXACT STAKES HE REQUESTED.
Actually, from what I see, he's going out of his way to arrange to play
you. And he's even willing to put all the money in escrow, so there's
no confusion about who has what or if the payment will take place.
You're the one who is spewing random noise in an effort to distract from
Michael's very reasonable offers.
> How much more obvious can it be what this guy is about?
Well, it's obvious what Jason Repa is about -- you're a scared l'il
pussy who talked a lot of crap, and then when someone called your bluff,
you're frantically backing down.
Typical.
- --
Derek
insert clever quotation here
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org
iD8DBQFEv26btQZlu3o7QpERAv4SAJ9n18bsEkIEHVJ9ZrOpIjKzMPFgBACgsTvB
7AwFudiO+JHp2Hn/csyY2t8=
=I5YH
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
-Jason911
the Moron himself, or else it's his gay lover. Everyone saw my repeated
attempts to make this session happen and Michael's repeated excuses and
bullshit. So pathetic! I won't be reading any more posts in this thread.
JMR
Derek Ray
Hash: SHA1
- -Jason911 wrote:
> What is obvious here is that "Derek Ray" is either a psuedonym for Michael
> the Moron himself, or else it's his gay lover. Everyone saw Michael's repeated
> attempts to make this session happen and my repeated excuses and
> bullshit. So pathetic! I won't be reading any more posts in this thread.
Good riddance, pussy.
- --
Derek
insert clever quotation here
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org
iD8DBQFEv5a5tQZlu3o7QpERAiTjAKDfOYyRoMJFjbW12t7JpTG4fmeGIACdHBLW
D6r7z6eSgHblU9O7UYwqTyY=
=gnBK
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Michael Petch
You knew that he would come back and claim you and I were the same person.
He'll go on an on about how I am using internet proxies / anonymous servers
etc and that any post that is in my favor was written by me using an alias
etc.
It is typical smokescreen tactic to deflect the fact he really doesn't want
to play me. I have to admit he is persistent and if he thinks I'm going to
cave in he is far from it.
I am not giving up. I posted conditions that were originally acceptable to
him. And he won't budge from July 22nd, or he demands that I play online
(And I want to eliminate the BS about internet cheating).
I have found something else of interest that I believe has a direct bearing
on all this (And I know when I post the info he will find every excuse to
claim its not him OR he'll claim that his posts are not accurate and can not
be applied). It is a connect the dots, What quacks like a duck is usually a
duck situation.
Michael
On 7/20/06 5:52 AM, in article
A5idnaUep-sA8yLZ...@giganews.com, "Derek Ray"
Michael Petch
With people like this, I also have to be a bit careful. I only weigh about
130 pounds and if he ever got mad at me over the board he would easily take
me out in a fight. Even given that fact I'd be willing to play him.
On the other hand I figure in a fight even a guy of my small stature might
have a chance if I manage to get the first hit in and pop his bad shoulder
out of its socket - if he ever tried.
Michael
-Jason911
minutes after it appeared. Quite a "coincidence" indeed! Hey Mikey
boy....why do you use a crappy Mac? If I didn't already know you are a
chicken shit, chronic lying, mouthpiece with no intention of playing me, I
would have thought that was the reason you won't play online......ie;
compatibility problem.
JMR
Grunty
I guess there are many people of your kind out there.
Big and even insulting words but, when firmly confronted, eventually
their inner cowardice (their self-repressed nature) does show up.
At this stage I believe your case is pathological. The gratuitous
offense to Patti reveals it. Your whole sterile insulting style reveals
it. Just give up and crawl back to your hole.
You're a juicy piece of meat for Michael's essay (and I suspect a juicy
piece of meat for him over the board as well).
PS: I left you greetings at BGSnowie forum, where you had recently
gotten advice from Gregg. Yes, your friend Gregg.
Michael Petch
AND NO "Gambling online is foolish" and I will not play anyone a money
session. You agreed to play me live right up front. I told you I don't
gamble online - its dumb. You did not have a problem when you thought th
stake was 1/100th of what I actually asked for.
------
You are talking in circles. I forced you into a confrontation yesterday
where you challenged me about my own wording of "time to time" work down
your way (MTS). In response I posted the challenge (quoted further down)
which is exactly what I originally envisioned AND meets your requirements.
The ONLY thing in it for me is that since I will make it around my business
trip - You have to agree to my dates. And I will publish it here in advance.
You have everything to gain, and according to you nothing to lose (You are
the superior intellect, and I freely bow to you backgammon greatness and
mathematical aptitude)
So rather than declare I am backing out. How about you answer yes or no as
to whether what I posted in this message yesterday is acceptable to you
(because you have refused to state what was wrong with it). You have been
trying all along to change my original mind about playing online. I told you
right up front NO. You may be a cheater and I'd rather a level playign field
in real life. And guess what - I may be a cheater to, so it fair either way
to play Live.
"I AM ALL FOR playing you 50$/pt to a maximum of $1000 when my next business
trip takes me to Winnipeg this year. When that business trip is scheduled I
will contact you here. If you demand ANY other date then I need a reason to
go out there, and you have to put money in escrow."
If you accept that we play when I am in town on business this year (and I
will be there at least once more) - THERE IS NO ESCROW. It is my trip, not
yours. If you want me to go out there outside of a business trip ESCROW is
required. I am giving you TWO options. The FIRST one is inline with my
original proposal that started all this, the second is required if you want
me to go out at your convenience (And this is to accommodate a situation
where you feel you should have the ability to set the date).
And if you decide to beat around the bush in answering, or you decide to
ignore the direct question (Yes or No) then you are finding every reason not
to take this challenge seriously.
I'd even accept (although I would not agree - but it would be an interesting
statement to make in this forum) "I don't like your terms because I (me) get
to set the date and that is unfair".
WHEN we play is the ONLY issue left to solve.
Michael
[ps: I know the true agenda is to make me go in circles, but I have the time
to outplay this game of tag, and get this match played]
On 7/20/06 9:28 AM, in article piNvg.216729$IK3.20214@pd7tw1no, "-Jason911"
Nale
I'm stupid for doing so. Believe methe only connection to Michael I
have is that I have seen him on MSN Zone a few years ago. I also think
(not sure) you can see that I'm writing this from Sweden, so It's not
Michael in another nick.
I have to say I can't understand that Michael have been able to take
this much crap and bad mouthing from you Jason without answering the
same way. He has also done more than I think anyone could expect in
terms of making this money session happen. I would be glad if 25% of
the player in the Euroleague I'm director of would make half Michaels
effort to even make a match happen online.
I also have to take Michaels side about you trying to dictate that he
had to come to you the 22nd. You made it pretty clear that if he did
not show up at 2.00 in the place you demanded there, it would be proof
that Michael bailed out from the bet.
On a last note I have read this newsgroup for many years and i have
never read any posts that have been close to yours when it comes to bad
language and spewing crap over other persons, not even from angry
pissed off teenagers. Tragical...
/Micke