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Gammonfever BG Quiz - Position #7

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Micke Nilsson

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Sep 17, 2005, 4:11:57 AM9/17/05
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O on roll, Cube or no Cube? And please, no bot solutions right away :o)


Money session. Score X-O: 0-0

O on roll, cube action
+-1--2--3--4--5--6--------7--8--9-10-11-12-+
| X O | | O O X X |
| X O | | O O X |
| O | | X | S
| O | | | n
| O | | | o
| |BAR| | w
| X | | O | i
| X | | X O | e
| X | | X O |
| X | | X O |
| O X | | X O |
+24-23-22-21-20-19-------18-17-16-15-14-13-+
Pipcount X: 164 O: 149 X-O: 0-0/Money (1)
CubeValue: 1


paulde...@att.net

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Sep 17, 2005, 8:26:38 AM9/17/05
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I see this as a hold. It's dangerous to double these types of
positions with just a one point board. Why not at least wait and see
if O can hit the blot? Surely most exchanges with O hitting the blot
lead to takes. With very few (if any) market losers, this is a hold.

Paul Epstein

Grunty

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Sep 17, 2005, 3:37:03 PM9/17/05
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Micke Nilsson wrote:

> no bot solutions right away

No bot solutions needed, neither right away nor later.
(Are you sure this is one of the positions that raised controversy?)

Micke Nilsson

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Sep 17, 2005, 4:29:17 PM9/17/05
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3-ply Instant evaluation

Money session. Score X-O: 0-0

O on roll, cube action
+-1--2--3--4--5--6--------7--8--9-10-11-12-+
| X O | | O O X X |
| X O | | O O X |
| O | | X | S
| O | | | n
| O | | | o
| |BAR| | w
| X | | O | i
| X | | X O | e
| X | | X O |
| X | | X O |
| O X | | X O |
+24-23-22-21-20-19-------18-17-16-15-14-13-+
Pipcount X: 164 O: 149 X-O: 0-0/Money (1)
CubeValue: 1

3-Ply Money equity: 0,367
1,0% 18,2% 63,4% 36,6% 8,8% 0,4%
1. No double 0,534
2. Double, take 0,467 (-0,067)
3. Double, pass 1,000 (+0,466)
Proper cube action: No double, take 13%
------------------------------ End ----------------------------------

Money session. Score X-O: 0-0

O on roll, cube action
+-1--2--3--4--5--6--------7--8--9-10-11-12-+
| X O | | O O X X |
| X O | | O O X |
| O | | X | S
| O | | | n
| O | | | o
| |BAR| | w
| X | | O | i
| X | | X O | e
| X | | X O |
| X | | X O |
| O X | | X O |
+24-23-22-21-20-19-------18-17-16-15-14-13-+
Pipcount X: 164 O: 149 X-O: 0-0/Money (1)
CubeValue: 1


Rollout Money equity: 0,388
1,4% 17,6% 64,0% 36,0% 7,9% 0,3%
95% confidence interval:
- money cubeless eq.: 0,388 ą0,023,
- live cube no double: 0,603 ą0,041,
- live cube double take: 0,507 ą0,056.
Rollout settings:
Full rollout,
324 games (equiv. 10524 games),
played 3-ply (standard), cube 3-ply,
settlement 0,550 at 16 pts,
seed 1, without race database.
Evaluations
1. No double 0,566
2. Double, take 0,513 (-0,054)
3. Double, pass 1,000 (+0,434)
Proper cube action: No double, take 11%
Live cube
1. No double 0,603
2. Double, take 0,507 (-0,096)
3. Double, pass 1,000 (+0,397)
Proper cube action: No double, take 19%

------------------------------ End ----------------------------------


Micke Nilsson

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Sep 17, 2005, 4:32:27 PM9/17/05
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I agree this seemed pretty clear. All I know is that this position was one
of the 18 that was reviewed. Once again, this single position (or any other
single postition) certainly did not raise controversy, it was the fact that
there was not one single cube error. I'm pretty sure the accuser could find
a more borderline position in the 32 matches.

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