I just got screwed over by Stars again.....
OrlandoCuse
Playing a 7card Stud H/L MTT - down to final 12 players - top 8 get paid. I have
below average stack (about T3000), but I play tight, so I have enough to make
the final table as long as I play solid. But then I get royally SCREWED by the
stars RNG.......I got the bring in low bet 7 out of 12 times (and the bring in
was 120 + the 80 ante). Not only did I keep getting the bring in bet, but my
hands ALWAYS stunk - barely 1 playable H/L and in them - I would get (K9)2,
(QT)3, (J8)2 - total crap - half of my stack got depleted in the matter of 2
orbits.
FWIW, Stars changed their Stud structure to escalate the ante/bring-ins, and
escalate the structure at a quicker pace - they suck now, but you can make money
by playing tight, as long as you don't get the bring-in bet to clock you over
the head like I did.
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> Playing a 7card Stud H/L MTT - down to final 12 players - top 8 get paid. I have
> below average stack (about T3000), but I play tight, so I have enough to make
> the final table as long as I play solid. But then I get royally SCREWED by the
> stars RNG.......I got the bring in low bet 7 out of 12 times (and the bring in
> was 120 + the 80 ante). Not only did I keep getting the bring in bet, but my
> hands ALWAYS stunk - barely 1 playable H/L and in them - I would get (K9)2,
> (QT)3, (J8)2 - total crap - half of my stack got depleted in the matter of 2
> orbits.
I busted out of a Razz SNG the other night on FTP in 4th place after
having a commanding chip lead. I was dealt the high card among four
players 13 of 16 times! It crippled my stack.
I got nailed by the low card in a stud match on Stars the other night
in a similar fashion near the money bubble.
So maybe Stars and FTP use the same RNG, designed exclusively to screw
the two of us over.
The question then becomes: Do I play more hands because of the antes
and bring ins or do I play tighter? The antes are there to induce
action, like that's even really needed online.
When things start going bad on Stars for you, just roll your mouse
around a lot and that should solve your problem.
E
DaVoice
"OrlandoCuse" <4308...@recpoker.com> wrote in message
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>
> Playing a 7card Stud H/L MTT - down to final 12 players - top 8 get paid.
> I have
> below average stack (about T3000), but I play tight, so I have enough to
> make
> the final table as long as I play solid. But then I get royally SCREWED by
> the
> stars RNG.......I got the bring in low bet 7 out of 12 times (and the
> bring in
> was 120 + the 80 ante). Not only did I keep getting the bring in bet, but
> my
> hands ALWAYS stunk - barely 1 playable H/L and in them - I would get
> (K9)2,
> (QT)3, (J8)2 - total crap - half of my stack got depleted in the matter of
> 2
> orbits.
>
> FWIW, Stars changed their Stud structure to escalate the ante/bring-ins,
> and
> escalate the structure at a quicker pace - they suck now, but you can make
> money
> by playing tight, as long as you don't get the bring-in bet to clock you
> over
> the head like I did.
I guess the STARS RNG must be a live dealer in Biloxi ,too. My personal
best (or worst) in a full 8 handed stud ring game was 23 consecutive
bring-ins. It's poker, it happens.
Rick "ADB DaVoice" Charles
OrlandoCuse
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Smorgass Bored
Elvis Henry wrote:
> When things start going bad on Stars for you, just roll your mouse
> around a lot and that should solve your problem.
LOL That didn't work for either one of us last night.......
Doug
( I ended up poisoning my mouse )
mo_charles
> best (or worst) in a full 8 handed stud ring game was 23 consecutive
> bring-ins. It's poker, it happens.
was that the same day carson got a job?
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Sorry Rick but I CALL BULLSHIT.
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BillB
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>> I guess the STARS RNG must be a live dealer in Biloxi ,too. My personal
>> best (or worst) in a full 8 handed stud ring game was 23 consecutive
>> bring-ins. It's poker, it happens.
>>
>> Rick "ADB DaVoice" Charles
>
>
> Sorry Rick but I CALL BULLSHIT.
>
Why would you call bullshit? The odds are only 590,000,000,000,000,000,000:1
sng
Did this really happen to you, or are you quoting another email from
your mother?
arlo payne
On Sep 14 2006 3:43 PM, BillB wrote:
> "arlo payne" wrote in message
DAMN!
Sorry I was thinking it had higher odds :)
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>> Why would you call bullshit? The odds are only
>> 590,000,000,000,000,000,000:1
>
>
> DAMN!
> Sorry I was thinking it had higher odds :)
well, my math is probably wrong...it almost always is.
BillB
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by the way, what comes after quadrillion anyway?
Scott W
590,295,810,358,705,651,712 to 1
But I am sure it happened.
Scott
DaVoice
Arlo, it was at the Biloxi Belle (one of the first 3 casinos on the MS
Coast, long gone now.) but one of the dealers in this horrible string was
Cincere Mason who seven or eight years later became the swing shift Manager
at the Biloxi Grand. In fact, I spoke to her about that the last time I saw
her in person because we were talking about when she was a "break-in"
dealer and stuck me EVERY hand she dealt in that down with the bring-in. I
can't remember for certain who the other dealer was, but trust me it
happened. I know the odds are astronomical, and I would have posted a
question to RGP when it happened for one of the math geeks, but there wasn't
an R.G.P. back then, it was '92
Rick "ADB DaVoice" Charles
DaVoice
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I knew I'd get that response somewhere. But it actually happened. I don't
know where people are pulling the figures out that they've "calculated"
here. How would you even start when every card from the Kc down to the 2c
inclusive can be the low card in an 8 handed game. I know the odds are huge
against it happening, but it actually did.
RC
arlo payne
On Sep 14 2006 6:18 PM, DaVoice wrote:
> "arlo payne" wrote in message
Rick:
You I trust but the odds are crazy
mo_charles
> know where people are pulling the figures out that they've "calculated"
> here. How would you even start when every card from the Kc down to the 2c
> inclusive can be the low card in an 8 handed game. I know the odds are huge
> against it happening, but it actually did.
the card combos don't matter since there's only one lowest up per hand.
there are eight total players at the table. what are the odds you'll be
dealt the lowest card of the eight dealt? now, what are the odds of this
happening 23 times in a row?
the answer?
Russ G. was dealing.
mo_charles
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RNG. It really was nice of them to rig it for me to win.
yay!!!!11111111111111
also i would like to thank the RNG of Party Poker, Full Tilt, Ultimate
Bet, Absolute Poker, and the automatic card shufflers at casinos as
well as the dealers at casinos in las vegas, oklahoma, and louisiana.
thanks guys. I have a warm spot in my heart for these fellows.
hanks
On Sep 14 2006 6:30 PM, mo_charles wrote:
> > I knew I'd get that response somewhere. But it actually happened. I don't
> > know where people are pulling the figures out that they've "calculated"
> > here. How would you even start when every card from the Kc down to the 2c
> > inclusive can be the low card in an 8 handed game. I know the odds are huge
> >
> > against it happening, but it actually did.
>
> the card combos don't matter since there's only one lowest up per hand.
> there are eight total players at the table. what are the odds you'll be
> dealt the lowest card of the eight dealt? now, what are the odds of this
> happening 23 times in a row?
>
> the answer?
>
> Russ G. was dealing.
>
> mo_charles
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On Sep 14 2006 6:30 PM, mo_charles wrote:
> > I knew I'd get that response somewhere. But it actually happened. I don't
> > know where people are pulling the figures out that they've "calculated"
> > here. How would you even start when every card from the Kc down to the 2c
> > inclusive can be the low card in an 8 handed game. I know the odds are huge
> >
> > against it happening, but it actually did.
>
> the card combos don't matter since there's only one lowest up per hand.
> there are eight total players at the table. what are the odds you'll be
> dealt the lowest card of the eight dealt? now, what are the odds of this
> happening 23 times in a row?
>
> the answer?
>
> Russ G. was dealing.
>
> mo_charles
HA HA!!! Very good.
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RazzO
I would say the odds are better that Stars is rigged in some way.
Come on, Rick! 23 in a row? So basically you were low for an entire dealer
down?
When it's all said and done, I will play my message to Washington
(Senators Ensign and Reid). Yes, I recorded it.
On Sep 14 2006 1:36 PM, DaVoice wrote:
> I guess the STARS RNG must be a live dealer in Biloxi ,too. My personal
> best (or worst) in a full 8 handed stud ring game was 23 consecutive
> bring-ins. It's poker, it happens.
RazzO
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BillB axed:
by the way, what comes after quadrillion anyway?
I think it's a googol (that's a 1 followed by 100 zeroes)
Doug
BillB
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>
> BillB axed:
> by the way, what comes after quadrillion anyway?
>
>
> I think it's a googol (that's a 1 followed by 100 zeroes)
> Doug
>
No, I looked it up. It goes billion, trillion, quadrillion, quintillion (Da
Voice's odds), sextillion, septillion, octillion, etc, etc...
http://www.uni-bonn.de/~manfear/numbers_names.php
FellKnight
> BillB axed:
> by the way, what comes after quadrillion anyway?
>
>
> I think it's a googol (that's a 1 followed by 100 zeroes)
> Doug
quadrillion, qunitillion, sextillion, septillion, octillion, nontillion,
dectillion etc.
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RazzO wrote:
> What is the mathematic probability for this to occur?
>
> I would say the odds are better that Stars is rigged in some way.
>
> Come on, Rick! 23 in a row? So basically you were low for an entire dealer
> down?
>
> When it's all said and done, I will play my message to Washington
> (Senators Ensign and Reid). Yes, I recorded it.
>
play with 8 at a table and they played one hand a minute non stop 24/7
it would on average take over a million years to get 23 bring ins by
the same person.
Scott
Smorgass Bored
On Sep 15 2006 11:40 AM, FellKnight wrote:
> On Sep 15 2006 5:14 AM, Smorgass Bored wrote:
>
> > BillB axed:
> > by the way, what comes after quadrillion anyway?
> >
> >
> > I think it's a googol (that's a 1 followed by 100 zeroes)
> > Doug
>
> quadrillion, qunitillion, sextillion, septillion, octillion, nontillion,
> dectillion etc.
>
> Fell
Then, I guess that googol is the highest unit you can go...
Doug
Smorgass Bored
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Googol
> Then, I guess that googol is the highest unit you can go...
> Doug
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> by the way, what comes after quadrillion anyway?
Quintillion.
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Michael Sullivan
> On Sep 15 2006 11:40 AM, FellKnight wrote:
> > On Sep 15 2006 5:14 AM, Smorgass Bored wrote:
> > > BillB axed:
> > > by the way, what comes after quadrillion anyway?
> > > I think it's a googol (that's a 1 followed by 100 zeroes)
> > > Doug
> > quadrillion, qunitillion, sextillion, septillion, octillion, nontillion,
> > dectillion etc.
> > Fell
> Then, I guess that googol is the highest unit you can go...
> Doug
Don't forget the googleplex (10^googol)
Or better yet, Ackermann(googleplex, googleplex)
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>
>
> On Sep 15 2006 11:40 AM, FellKnight wrote:
>
>> On Sep 15 2006 5:14 AM, Smorgass Bored wrote:
>>
>>> BillB axed:
>>> by the way, what comes after quadrillion anyway?
>>>
>>>
>>> I think it's a googol (that's a 1 followed by 100 zeroes)
>>> Doug
>> quadrillion, qunitillion, sextillion, septillion, octillion, nontillion,
>> dectillion etc.
>>
>> Fell
>
>
> Then, I guess that googol is the highest unit you can go...
> Doug
No sir, you clearly have never heard of the googolplex! That is a
googol googols.
Fell
Smorgass Bored
Well, that might have been my next answer, but I lost count when I stopped to
read your post........ dammit
Now, I have to start over.
Doug
(one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven,
twelve.......
Michael Sullivan
> Smorgass Bored wrote:
> > Then, I guess that googol is the highest unit you can go...
> > Doug
> No sir, you clearly have never heard of the googolplex! That is a
> googol googols.
No, a googolplex is not a googol googols, it is *much* bigger. So much
bigger that a googol googols is but an insignificant error in the
googolth place compared to a real googolplex, which would be 10^googol.
FellKnight
> FellKnight <fellk...@REMOVETHISgmail.com> wrote:
>> Smorgass Bored wrote:
>
>>> Then, I guess that googol is the highest unit you can go...
>>> Doug
>
>> No sir, you clearly have never heard of the googolplex! That is a
>> googol googols.
>
> No, a googolplex is not a googol googols, it is *much* bigger. So much
> bigger that a googol googols is but an insignificant error in the
> googolth place compared to a real googolplex, which would be 10^googol.
>
>
> Michael
I stand corrected.
Fell
Erik Max Francis
> Don't forget the googleplex (10^googol)
It's googolplex.
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Erik Max Francis
> No sir, you clearly have never heard of the googolplex! That is a
> googol googols.
No, it's 10 to the power google. A googol googols would just be a
googol squared.
Erik Max Francis
> No, it's 10 to the power google.
That should be googol, obviously.
Eric Lindholm
made up to be cute and give his nephew a giggle (not googol). No one cares
what the definition is.
Palooka
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> Michael Sullivan wrote:
>
> > Don't forget the googleplex (10^googol)
>
> It's googolplex.
>
Palooka