Odds on QJs
Jim Maac
The odds on getting QJs four times in a row in different suites are the same as
all similar idiot questions. The odds are 2-1. You either get QJs four times in
a row in different suites or you don't. It seems the majority of listings on
this thread don't make enough sense to even deserve an answer. This forum is
supposed to be about poker, and how a person can improve their play;however,
from what I read its more about group therapy in an asylum.
Steve Cozine
hands containing QJs without repeating suit is one in 128,813,937,174.
On the first deal you have a 8/52 x 1/51 chance of QJs, the second deal
you have a 6/52 x 1/51 chance of a different QJ suited, third deal 4/52
x 1/51, and fourth deal is 2/52 x 1/51. And I also dont think it is an
"idoit question". You need to be able to calculate odds to play the
game well.
Maverick
> The odds on getting QJs four times in a row in different suites are the same as
> all similar idiot questions. The odds are 2-1. You either get QJs four times in
> a row in different suites or you don't. It seems the majority of listings on
> this thread don't make enough sense to even deserve an answer. This forum is
> supposed to be about poker, and how a person can improve their play;however,
> from what I read its more about group therapy in an asylum.
You forget your meds today?
Barbara Yoon
> I seem to remember one incredible night when I was dealt
> in exactly 5 hands: Kc3d, 7s5c, Th4h, Ad8c, 2s9h!!!
> That's over 2500 times more improbable than the 4 QJs.
> I don't think I'll ever see a string like that again (or remember it)...
> :)
Truly amazing! And in that exact order too?! Jeez...if we didn't
already know your reputation, we'd never believe it... And five
hands with no matching ranks throughout all ten cards in itself is
only about one chance in 120 or 121...
Albert Wang
Kc3d, 7s5c, Th4h, Ad8c, 2s9h!!!
That's over 2500 times more improbable than the 4 QJs. I don't think I'll
ever see a string like that again ( or remember it)...
:)
Hope I'm never drawing dead,
Albert.
Jim Maac wrote in message <19980930200602...@ng110.aol.com>...
Tad Perry
>Albert Wang:
>> I seem to remember one incredible night when I was dealt
>> in exactly 5 hands: Kc3d, 7s5c, Th4h, Ad8c, 2s9h!!!
>> That's over 2500 times more improbable than the 4 QJs.
>> :)
>
>Truly amazing! And in that exact order too?! Jeez...if we didn't
>already know your reputation, we'd never believe it... And five
>hands with no matching ranks throughout all ten cards in itself is
>only about one chance in 120 or 121...
It's almost as if they were carefully selected not to match. Those
Poker Gods, I tell ya.
Tad Perry.
Maverick
> I seem to remember one incredible night when I was dealt in exactly 5 hands:
> Kc3d, 7s5c, Th4h, Ad8c, 2s9h!!!
> That's over 2500 times more improbable than the 4 QJs. I don't think I'll
> ever see a string like that again ( or remember it)...
You might be drawing dead with that 2s9h. :)
Pal-Kristian Engstad
Hehe, seems like a lot of people don't see a good joke. Perhaps most
poker players are too caught up on their game?
Listen, absolutely everything (perhaps some exceptions) in life has
odds 2-1, or 50%. For instance; what is the chance you will be struck
by lightening tomorrow? It's fifty-fifty!! You are either gonna be
hit, or you don't. Get it?
PKE.
Steve Cozine <sco...@home.com> writes:
> I gotta differ here. The odds on dealing four consecutive two card
> hands containing QJs without repeating suit is one in 128,813,937,174.
> On the first deal you have a 8/52 x 1/51 chance of QJs, the second deal
> you have a 6/52 x 1/51 chance of a different QJ suited, third deal 4/52
> x 1/51, and fourth deal is 2/52 x 1/51. And I also dont think it is an
> "idoit question". You need to be able to calculate odds to play the
> game well.
>
> Jim Maac wrote:
> >
G. M. Cooper
either, the probability of one of the events is one out of two, or
1/2, but that makes the odds 1-1, not 2-1. ;-)
Gary
Pal-Kristian Engstad wrote:
>
> Hehe, seems like a lot of people don't see a good joke. Perhaps most
> poker players are too caught up on their game?
>
> Listen, absolutely everything (perhaps some exceptions) in life has
> odds 2-1, or 50%. For instance; what is the chance you will be struck
> by lightening tomorrow? It's fifty-fifty!! You are either gonna be
> hit, or you don't. Get it?
>
> PKE.
>
> >
Perry Friedman
But seriously, for PAST events, this is true. If someone says "I have
flipped a coin, what is the probability that it is heads?", the answer
is either 1 or 0. You just don't know which. It is not .5, since it has
already occured and the outcome is fixed. It either IS heads, or is NOT.
Well, to get some quantum possibilities, let's assume that the flipper of the
coin has already looked and knows the outcome :-)
Perry
In article <m3yaqye...@khazad.hunt.inmet.com>,
Pal-Kristian Engstad <eng...@intermetrics.com> wrote:
>
>Hehe, seems like a lot of people don't see a good joke. Perhaps most
>poker players are too caught up on their game?
>
>Listen, absolutely everything (perhaps some exceptions) in life has
>odds 2-1, or 50%. For instance; what is the chance you will be struck
>by lightening tomorrow? It's fifty-fifty!! You are either gonna be
>hit, or you don't. Get it?
>
>PKE.
>
>Steve Cozine <sco...@home.com> writes:
>
>> I gotta differ here. The odds on dealing four consecutive two card
>> hands containing QJs without repeating suit is one in 128,813,937,174.
>> On the first deal you have a 8/52 x 1/51 chance of QJs, the second deal
>> you have a 6/52 x 1/51 chance of a different QJ suited, third deal 4/52
>> x 1/51, and fourth deal is 2/52 x 1/51. And I also dont think it is an
>> "idoit question". You need to be able to calculate odds to play the
>> game well.
>>
Scott Nelson
>Actually, the probability is either 1 or 0. You just don't know which!
>
>But seriously, for PAST events, this is true. If someone says "I have
>flipped a coin, what is the probability that it is heads?", the answer
>is either 1 or 0. You just don't know which. It is not .5, since it has
>already occured and the outcome is fixed. It either IS heads, or is NOT.
>Well, to get some quantum possibilities, let's assume that the flipper of the
>coin has already looked and knows the outcome :-)
>
I disagree. Probability is a measure of ignorance,
or as Caro would say, "In the beginning, everything
was even money."
If you flip a coin and look at it, then for you,
the probability of a head is either 1 or 0,
but for me it's still 0.5.
It's not whether the event is in the future or the past,
but whether it's known or unknown. How well we can
determine an event (future or past) determines what
probability we assign it.
For some, it's possible to predict with a high degree
of certainty the outcome of a coin toss.
For those who can do so, the result of a future coin
toss is only a little more in doubt than a past toss.
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BobA928674
>"In the beginning, everything
>was even money."
ive seen this quote before and it makes less sense now than it did when I first
saw it. god had to have a HUGE edge in the beginning
BobA928674 The most beloved member of R.G.P.
post...@nospam.com
wrote:
It was the edge of the universe, and yes, it was huge.
The devil didn't invent poker till several years later. At
first, poker was considered evil, but it became socially
acceptable when God started playing it. Money was
invented by both of them together, when they realized
poker was boring without it. So a better way to phrase
that would be "in the beginning, money wasn't a factor."
Alan Bostick
boba9...@aol.com (BobA928674) wrote:
>
> >"In the beginning, everything
> >was even money."
>
> ive seen this quote before and it makes less sense now than it did when I first
> saw it. god had to have a HUGE edge in the beginning
Nonsense. God does not play dice with the universe. ;-)
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Matt Treasure
>
> On 1 Oct 1998, Jim Maac wrote:
> The odds on getting QJs four times in a row in different suites are the same as
> all similar idiot questions. The odds are 2-1. You either get QJs four times in
> > a row in different suites or you don't.
Then your logic and your math are in conflict. If you either
get QJs 4 times in a row or you don't then it would be 50-50
or even money. Either you do or you don't !!
According to your logic.
Matt Treasure
Matt Treasure
>
> Hehe, seems like a lot of people don't see a good joke. Perhaps most
> poker players are too caught up on their game?
>
> Listen, absolutely everything (perhaps some exceptions) in life has
> odds 2-1, or 50%. For instance; what is the chance you will be struck
> by lightening tomorrow? It's fifty-fifty!! You are either gonna be
> hit, or you don't. Get it?
>
> PKE.
>
>
2-1 means that out of a total of 3 trials an event will occur one time.
that is not 50-50. 1-1 is 50-50.
Proper poker math is all 50-50 .
You either make your flush draw or you don't.
You either win the pot or you don't.
You either have a winning session or you don't.
You either win the tournament or you don't.
You either answer stupid posts or you don't.
Matt Treasure
Matt Treasure
Maverick
>
> Nonsense. God does not play dice with the universe. ;-)
Everyone knows God plays no-limit hold'em.
Barbara Yoon
>>> ...odds...same as all similar idiot questions. ...2-1. You either get...
>>> ...or you don't. ...majority of listings on this thread don't make...sense...
>>> This forum is supposed to be about poker, and how a person can
Pal-Kristian Engstad:
>> Hehe...people don't see a good joke. ...poker players are too caught up
>> on their game? ...everything in life has odds 2-1, or 50%. ...chance you
>> will be struck by lightening tomorrow? It's fifty-fifty!! You are either gonna
>> be hit, or you don't. Get it?
G. M. Cooper:
> You're all wrong. If it can or can't happen with a 50-50 chance of either,
> the probability of one of the events is one out of two, or 1/2, but that
> makes the odds 1-1, not 2-1. ;-)
You're disputing the top mathematicians / philosophers in their whole asylum?!
Barbara Yoon
>>> ...odds...same as all similar idiot questions. ...2-1. You either get...
>>> ...or you don't. ...majority of listings on this thread don't make...sense...
>>> This forum is supposed to be about poker, and how a person can
>>> improve their play;however...its more about group therapy in an asylum.
Pal-Kristian Engstad:
>> Hehe...people don't see a good joke. ...poker players are too caught up
>> on their game? ...everything in life has odds 2-1, or 50%. ...chance you
>> will be struck by lightening tomorrow? It's fifty-fifty!! You are either gonna
>> be hit, or you don't. Get it?
Matt Treasure:
> 2-1 means that out of a total of 3 trials an event will occur one time. that is
> not 50-50. 1-1 is 50-50. Proper poker math is all 50-50. You either win the
> pot or you don't. You either answer stupid posts or you don't.