OT - Poor Rudy Giuliani
thepixelfreak
Watching the CNN IOWA returns yesterday with the wife. I'm off at the
fridge getting a beer and I hear my wife say
"Giuliani didn't even make it into the pie-chart!"
Hilarious!
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>Hilarious!
He skipped Iowa. It's not obligatory.
ChrisRobin
Did you see the headline of the most recent Onion? "Giuliani To Run For
President of 9/11." Ha!
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mo_charles
> > fridge getting a beer and I hear my wife say
> >
> > "Giuliani didn't even make it into the pie-chart!"
> >
> > Hilarious!
>
> Did you see the headline of the most recent Onion? "Giuliani To Run For
> President of 9/11." Ha!
i had stated i would never vote for giuliani, but i'll have to retract if
you liberals keep crying about him.
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Schmedley
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His strategy is to skip the two early matches and go all out later,
particularly in Florida. This is well off the conventional wisdom and seems
to me to be completly crazy. But if it works . . .
WuzYoungOnceToo
What's really funny is that neither of you bothered to notice that he
wasn't even participating.
I didn't finish in the money in any '07 WSOP events. But since I wasn't
even in Vegas at the time I don't feel too bad about it.
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JerseyRudy
On Jan 4 2008 3:48 PM, WuzYoungOnceToo wrote:
> On Jan 4 2008 1:36 PM, thepixelfreak wrote:
>
> > Watching the CNN IOWA returns yesterday with the wife. I'm off at the
> > fridge getting a beer and I hear my wife say
> >
> > "Giuliani didn't even make it into the pie-chart!"
> >
> > Hilarious!
>
> What's really funny is that neither of you bothered to notice that he
> wasn't even participating.
>
> I didn't finish in the money in any '07 WSOP events. But since I wasn't
> even in Vegas at the time I don't feel too bad about it.
He participated in Iowa and he is participating in New Hampshire, he just chose
not to compete all-out in either place so that he can stay viable until Florida
which is a must-win for him. He actually decided a few weeks ago to spend
additional time in Iowa hoping to finish in 3rd place, but right before New
Years his campaign concluded that this was not possible so he immediately went
to Florida. He is still hoping to finish 3rd in New Hampshire, and has spent a
decent amount of time there over the past few months.
It was actually a good result for Guiliani that Huckabee won. Guiliani is not
worried about Huckabee in the states that Guiliani is strong. the bad result
for Guiliani would have been if Romney won Iowa and then New Hampshire. Now it
appears that McCain will win New Hampshire, which means Romney is toast. In the
end it will be between McCain and Guiliani.
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da pickle
> In the end it will be between McCain and Guiliani.
Gosh you guys know some stuff!
WuzYoungOnceToo
>
> He participated in Iowa and he is participating in New Hampshire, he just
chose
> not to compete all-out in either place so that he can stay viable until
Florida
> which is a must-win for him.
I guess you're using a looser definition of "participate" than I am. He
skipped the Straw Poll completely, and didn't even show up in Iowa for the
Caucus.
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ChrisRobin
On Jan 4 2008 2:17 PM, mo_charles wrote:
> > > Watching the CNN IOWA returns yesterday with the wife. I'm off at the
> > > fridge getting a beer and I hear my wife say
> > >
> > > "Giuliani didn't even make it into the pie-chart!"
> > >
> > > Hilarious!
> >
> > Did you see the headline of the most recent Onion? "Giuliani To Run For
> > President of 9/11." Ha!
>
> i had stated i would never vote for giuliani, but i'll have to retract if
> you liberals keep crying about him.
Sounds great! Wouldn't want to interrupt your streak of voting for the absolute
worst candidate for the third straight election.
Of course when the dust settles, you can lecture us about how you're going to do
us all a favor by getting it right in 2012... finally.
Will in New Haven
> > > Watching the CNN IOWA returns yesterday with the wife. I'm off at the
> > > fridge getting a beer and I hear my wife say
>
> > > "Giuliani didn't even make it into the pie-chart!"
>
> > > Hilarious!
>
> > Did you see the headline of the most recent Onion? "Giuliani To Run For
> > President of 9/11." Ha!
>
> i had stated i would never vote for giuliani, but i'll have to retract if
> you liberals keep crying about him.
I guess it's ok that he regards the Second Amendment as an unfortunate
inconvenience only bothers liberals. He was a prosecutor, he is a
prosecutor and he will always BE a prosecutor. He will never take an
individual's rights seiously against the state. It is not that he
would use power for evil purposes. He just doesn't believe his use of
power, albeit for good purposes, should ever be checked. Now that is
someone who ought to worry conservatives.
Will in New Haven
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>> i had stated i would never vote for giuliani, but i'll have to
>> retract if
>> you liberals keep crying about him.
But that would mean you can't vote for the guy who believes Jesus is
going to return to Earth at a yet to be built temple in Missouri.
Choices are hard, huh mo?
BillB
>>> i had stated i would never vote for giuliani, but i'll have to
>>> retract if
>>> you liberals keep crying about him.
Sorry Chris, I was responding to mo. I made it look like you said
that. Ouch!
WuzYoungOnceToo
That's OK, Bill. I don't think anyone really expects your replies to
accurately (or honestly) reflect who/what you're replying to.
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mo_charles
> > > President of 9/11." Ha!
> >
> > i had stated i would never vote for giuliani, but i'll have to retract if
> > you liberals keep crying about him.
>
> I guess it's ok that he regards the Second Amendment as an unfortunate
> inconvenience only bothers liberals. He was a prosecutor, he is a
> prosecutor and he will always BE a prosecutor. He will never take an
> individual's rights seiously against the state. It is not that he
> would use power for evil purposes. He just doesn't believe his use of
> power, albeit for good purposes, should ever be checked. Now that is
> someone who ought to worry conservatives.
a great complaint. my major bitch with him is that he appointed a crook
as the chief law enforcement officer of new york city. he even
recommended the guy for a national post of similar scope. giuliani's a
piece of shit who shouldn't even be considered, but if the libs of this ng
wanna cry about him.....
mo_charles
mo_charles
> > > President of 9/11." Ha!
> >
> > i had stated i would never vote for giuliani, but i'll have to retract if
> > you liberals keep crying about him.
>
> Sounds great! Wouldn't want to interrupt your streak of voting for the
absolute
> worst candidate for the third straight election.
the absolute worst candidate the last umpteen elections has been dennis
kucinich; i didn't vote for him. ralph nader's a dumper too; i didn't
vote for him either. i did, however, vote for the green party last
election - over and over and over - to support the concept of more
political options. that's depite thinking they actually ARE the worst
party ever conceived. bush is STILL better than kerry, and i'd STILL vote
for bush before edwards (though i'd likely abstain).
> Of course when the dust settles, you can lecture us about how you're going
to do
> us all a favor by getting it right in 2012... finally.
i'm currently only lecturing a dumb filly who can't do math. i admitted
regretting my first vote for bush because i felt gore wouldn't have made
the same catastrophic blunders. who knows, he may have made worse
blunders. but not asserting my general perfection was a big leap for me,
and i think you should applaud my efforts. even a tiny dash of humility
ain't easy for a fucking genius like me.
mo_charles
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"mo_charles" <harry...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> >> i had stated i would never vote for giuliani, but i'll have to
>> >> retract if
>> >> you liberals keep crying about him.
>>
>> But that would mean you can't vote for the guy who believes Jesus
>> is
>> going to return to Earth at a yet to be built temple in Missouri.
>> Choices are hard, huh mo?
>
> did an
> angel shove his wing up your ass?
I am very much against irrationality in general, especially in
government. Why is that hard to understand?
mo_charles
> >> retract if
> >> you liberals keep crying about him.
>
> But that would mean you can't vote for the guy who believes Jesus is
> going to return to Earth at a yet to be built temple in Missouri.
> Choices are hard, huh mo?
what's hard is understanding your hatred of everything religious. did an
angel shove his wing up your ass?
mo_charles
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ChrisRobin
On Jan 4 2008 5:09 PM, mo_charles wrote:
> > >> i had stated i would never vote for giuliani, but i'll have to
> > >> retract if
> > >> you liberals keep crying about him.
> >
> > But that would mean you can't vote for the guy who believes Jesus is
> > going to return to Earth at a yet to be built temple in Missouri.
> > Choices are hard, huh mo?
>
> what's hard is understanding your hatred of everything religious. did an
> angel shove his wing up your ass?
Do you believe in angels?
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Palooka
>
>
> On Jan 4 2008 1:36 PM, thepixelfreak wrote:
>
>> Watching the CNN IOWA returns yesterday with the wife. I'm off at the
>> fridge getting a beer and I hear my wife say
>>
>> "Giuliani didn't even make it into the pie-chart!"
>>
>> Hilarious!
>
> Did you see the headline of the most recent Onion? "Giuliani To Run For
> President of 9/11." Ha!
>
away.
Palooka
raven1
<harry...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Watching the CNN IOWA returns yesterday with the wife. I'm off at the
>> > fridge getting a beer and I hear my wife say
>> >
>> > "Giuliani didn't even make it into the pie-chart!"
>> >
>> > Hilarious!
>>
>> Did you see the headline of the most recent Onion? "Giuliani To Run For
>> President of 9/11." Ha!
>
>i had stated i would never vote for giuliani, but i'll have to retract if
>you liberals keep crying about him.
If Giuliani's term as Mayor of NYC had ended on 9/10/2001, he would be
vaguely remembered today as one of the most unpopular, polarizing New
York politicians in recent memory. That he somehow managed to be
canonized as "America's Mayor" for simply doing his job in the
aftermath of 9/11 is a mystery to most New Yorkers; that this somehow
transforms him into some sort of expert on National Security matters
would be laughable (one might also note his earlier decision to put
the city's emergency response bunker right in the middle of the only
site in the city that had ever been a previous terrorist target,
rendering it useless when the site was attacked again) if it wasn't so
serious a matter.
Moreover, the reduction in crime so highly touted as his chief
accomplishment as Mayor, came as a direct result of policies
instituted by Police Commissioner Ray Kelly, who was appointed by his
predecessor David Dinkins, and whom current Mayor Mike Bloomberg
immediately re-appointed on taking office to replace Rudy's corrupt
flunkie Bernie Kerick (currently under indictment on a variety of
felony charges for abusing his office), leading to even more
spectacular reductions in the crime rate than under Giuliani.
Of course, there are things for liberals to like about Rudy: he's
pro-gun control, pro-choice, and lived with gay friends while his
marriage was breaking up. On the other hand, that, and his very public
adultery will hardly endear him to the Republican Party base...
Still thinking about voting for him? ;-)
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RazzO
Rudy has the best lisp of the candidates, Rep and Dem.
On Jan 4 2008 9:07 PM, raven1 wrote:
>
> Still thinking about voting for him? ;-)
raven1
>
>Rudy has the best lisp of the candidates, Rep and Dem.
He's also the only one who has repeatedly appeared in public in drag.
A Man Beaten by Jacks
>If Giuliani's term as Mayor of NYC had ended on 9/10/2001, he would be
>vaguely remembered today as one of the most unpopular, polarizing New
>York politicians in recent memory. That he somehow managed to be
>canonized as "America's Mayor" for simply doing his job in the
>aftermath of 9/11 is a mystery to most New Yorkers; that this somehow
>transforms him into some sort of expert on National Security matters
>would be laughable (one might also note his earlier decision to put
>the city's emergency response bunker right in the middle of the only
>site in the city that had ever been a previous terrorist target,
>rendering it useless when the site was attacked again) if it wasn't so
>serious a matter.
Don't forget that he also built a massive fuel tank right into the building,
as if they needed more flammable shit in there. An unprotected 6,000
gallon fuel tank. Kaboom. Fuckin mental wizard.
Way to go Ghouliani.
ChrisRobin
On Jan 4 2008 4:29 PM, mo_charles wrote:
> > > > Did you see the headline of the most recent Onion? "Giuliani To Run For
> > > > President of 9/11." Ha!
> > >
> > > i had stated i would never vote for giuliani, but i'll have to retract if
> > > you liberals keep crying about him.
> >
> > Sounds great! Wouldn't want to interrupt your streak of voting for the
> absolute
> > worst candidate for the third straight election.
>
> the absolute worst candidate the last umpteen elections has been dennis
> kucinich; i didn't vote for him. ralph nader's a dumper too; i didn't
> vote for him either. i did, however, vote for the green party last
> election - over and over and over - to support the concept of more
> political options. that's depite thinking they actually ARE the worst
> party ever conceived. bush is STILL better than kerry, and i'd STILL vote
> for bush before edwards (though i'd likely abstain).
Well, that pretty much seals it. You haven't learned a damn thing.
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Lynx
> particularly in Florida. This is well off the conventional wisdom and seems
> to me to be completly crazy. But if it works . . .
I believe his concept is that it's better to not play at all (even if it
means forfeiting) than it is to play and lose. He's avoiding the early
contests where he knows he would lose anyway, with the intention of
getting off to a strong start the first time that he does play.
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Schmedley
"Lynx" <a1...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
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>> His strategy is to skip the two early matches and go all out later,
>> particularly in Florida. This is well off the conventional wisdom and
>> seems
>> to me to be completly crazy. But if it works . . .
>
> I believe his concept is that it's better to not play at all (even if it
> means forfeiting) than it is to play and lose. He's avoiding the early
> contests where he knows he would lose anyway, with the intention of
> getting off to a strong start the first time that he does play.
>
back in the race in a big way. Both of these results might have been
avoided if Rudy had put his national numbers to the test. Weak tight.
Thanks for playing.
Joe Long
> It was actually a good result for Guiliani that Huckabee won. Guiliani is not
> worried about Huckabee in the states that Guiliani is strong. the bad result
> for Guiliani would have been if Romney won Iowa and then New Hampshire. Now it
> appears that McCain will win New Hampshire, which means Romney is toast. In the
> end it will be between McCain and Guiliani.
People still keep writing Huckabee off. He's far from a shoo-in, but
just remember the Born-Again peanut farmer from Georgia in 1976,
"Niceguyin' himself to the White House." Or the Man from Hope in 1992.
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JerseyRudy
The difference is that Huckabee won Iowa based almost entirely on support from
Evangelical Christians. There just are not enough of them in most other states
to give Huckabee a chance to win the nomination. We already see in New Hampshire
that Huckabee's successs in Iowa just doesn't translate to other states.
Huckabee's success in Iowa is more analogous to Pat Robertson's success in Iowa
in 1988 (finishing ahead of George H.W. Bush).
The Reamer
Americans described themselves as "born again christians".
Lynx
> > means forfeiting) than it is to play and lose. He's avoiding the early
> > contests where he knows he would lose anyway, with the intention of
> > getting off to a strong start the first time that he does play.
> >
> The Iowa results indicate Thompson is still alive. NH polls show McCain is
> back in the race in a big way. Both of these results might have been
> avoided if Rudy had put his national numbers to the test. Weak tight.
> Thanks for playing.
Polls of this nature are fickle. If Giuliani does start playing,, and
gets off to a strong start, everyone will be singing a different song.
At any rate, I HATE Giuliani. I've been very put off by the guy, from
well BEFORE 9/11.
I've stated that this is what I think his strategy is, and that it may
well work. That is all.
If you thank me for playing, with the assumption that the game is over,
then you're not smart enough to even be a player.
If you think that McCain is going to go anywhere, given his policies on
Iraq, you're even more stupid than I gave you credit for being.
But, thanks for playing.
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> > > I believe his concept is that it's better to not play at all (even if it
> > > means forfeiting) than it is to play and lose. He's avoiding the early
> > > contests where he knows he would lose anyway, with the intention of
> > > getting off to a strong start the first time that he does play.
> > >
> > The Iowa results indicate Thompson is still alive. NH polls show McCain
is
> > back in the race in a big way. Both of these results might have been
> > avoided if Rudy had put his national numbers to the test. Weak tight.
> > Thanks for playing.
>
> Polls of this nature are fickle. If Giuliani does start playing,, and
> gets off to a strong start, everyone will be singing a different song.
>
> At any rate, I HATE Giuliani. I've been very put off by the guy, from
> well BEFORE 9/11.
>
> I've stated that this is what I think his strategy is, and that it may
> well work. That is all.
>
> If you thank me for playing, with the assumption that the game is over,
> then you're not smart enough to even be a player.
>
> If you think that McCain is going to go anywhere, given his policies on
> Iraq, you're even more stupid than I gave you credit for being.
>
> But, thanks for playing.
A more reasonable and intelligent interpretation of his "Thanks for
playing" comment would likely have taken into account the use of the word
"playing" by you with regard to Giuliani's campaign decisions, as well as
the poster's own clear wording. Your response indicates that you are
being neither reasonable nor intelligent in your reading of his post.
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"Lynx" <a1...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
No, Rudy, Tx for playing. Sry 4 the misunderstanding.
Lynx
> playing" comment would likely have taken into account the use of the word
> "playing" by you with regard to Giuliani's campaign decisions, as well as
> the poster's own clear wording. Your response indicates that you are
> being neither reasonable nor intelligent in your reading of his post.
Is there something that you are actually attempting to say? If so, it is
not coming across. But then, I'm used to that, in your case.
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WuzYoungOnceToo
>
> > A more reasonable and intelligent interpretation of his "Thanks for
> > playing" comment would likely have taken into account the use of the word
> > "playing" by you with regard to Giuliani's campaign decisions, as well as
> > the poster's own clear wording. Your response indicates that you are
> > being neither reasonable nor intelligent in your reading of his post.
>
> Is there something that you are actually attempting to say?
Yes. Exactly what I did say.
> If so, it is not coming across.
Considering your inability to correctly interpret the readily apparent
meaning of Schmedly's comment, I'm not surprised that another easily
understandable bit of text is completely eluding you.
> But then, I'm used to that, in your case.
And in most others as well, it would seem.
Lynx
Okay, I guess I don't really understand what you're saying. If you
meant/mean that it's over for Rudy... I would have no problem with that.
But I don't think it is. I think we have to wait and see what does happen
once he does start to play.
Again, I'm not a fan of his. I just think we have to wait and see where
all of this goes.
If I took your post as being sarcastic toward me, when that was not your
intent, I'm "Sry 4 the misunderstanding", also.
Schmedley
"Lynx" <a1...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
>> No, Rudy, Tx for playing. Sry 4 the misunderstanding.
>
> Okay, I guess I don't really understand what you're saying. If you
> meant/mean that it's over for Rudy... I would have no problem with that.
> But I don't think it is. I think we have to wait and see what does happen
> once he does start to play.
I think his failure to contest the early primaries has been a huge blunder.
It seems he was trying to avoid getting beat by Romney, did not like his
chances in the venues, and was more comfortable with the wholesale races
down the line.
But he has sacrificed two weeks or more off the front pages. He had a
chance to bury the second tier candidates and damage McCain. The latter is
especially ominous as McCain is the most credible national security
candidate after Rudy.
Rudy does not have a big following with the superdelegates and back room
boys, so needs to run a string of wins and arrive at the convention with, at
the very least, the lead.
Now, even with some wins, it looks like he can at best hang the convention.
And he will NOT be the compromise candidate. Amazingly, Rudy, Huckabee, and
McCain are not traditional Republican candidates. Romney had the look, but
probably can't win with the evangelicals, and even now looks dead in the
water.
Which leaves Fred! WAKE UP FRED.
Or Rudy could scoop. Let it begin.
Boise
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WuzYoungOnceToo
> On Jan 4 2008 4:26 PM, WuzYoungOnceToo wrote:
>
> Just a boot licker for the establishment folks.... nothing to see here
> ...remember... no more Bushit...
You really need to learn how to read what you're responding to.