OT : chinese food and illegal immigration
Beldin the Sorcerer
anyone else notes the same thing.
There are 4 "all you can eat" chinese places that we frequent. Herself and I
often wonder how they can make a profit, given what they charge.
Except, perhaps. if they save a LOT on labor.
We've observed that the entire waitstaff arrives together.
They never seem to have a day off, and work the entire day.
That turnover is slow, but steady... and in order of first appearance.
One might infer that people are working off a debt.
Anyone have any similar observations?
Paul Popinjay
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>
> There are 4 "all you can eat" chinese places that we frequent. Herself and
> I often wonder how they can make a profit, given what they charge.
>
Maybe their meat bill is really low. Figure it out!
And is it just coincidence that you posted this a mere seven minutes after
my Fortune Cookie Post? What is your fucking problem, Beldin. Quit
following me, you freak.
-PP
Beldin the Sorcerer
"Paul Popinjay" <paulpo...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>>
>> There are 4 "all you can eat" chinese places that we frequent. Herself
>> and I often wonder how they can make a profit, given what they charge.
>>
>
>
> Maybe their meat bill is really low. Figure it out!
Sushi and crablegs ain't cheap.
It looks a LOT like a servitude system.
>
> And is it just coincidence that you posted this a mere seven minutes after
> my Fortune Cookie Post?
Haven't read it yet, let alone posted THIS thread because of ANY idiot post
you make.
What is your fucking problem, Beldin. Quit
> following me, you freak.
Popinfresh, I don't want to be behind you.
Stop fantasizing.
Paul Popinjay
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>> "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> There are 4 "all you can eat" chinese places that we frequent. Herself
>>> and I often wonder how they can make a profit, given what they charge.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Maybe their meat bill is really low. Figure it out!
>
> Sushi and crablegs ain't cheap.
>
Yeah right, like you're going to take your little girlfriend to somewhere
expensive. Get real, Beldin! You already told us about your FOUR favorite
all-you-can-eat places in town. That's right, FOUR OF THEM! We get the
idea, Beldin. You're a bargain-hunting, coupon-clipping, penny-pinching
cheap ass. Mister Bigshot, the cat's out of the bag. Oops, did I say
'cat'?
Monty Burns
hmmm, do you think it's possible they might all be part of the same
extended family? Just a wild ass guess.
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You forgot FAT FUCK!
Beldin the Sorcerer
"A Man Beaten by Jacks" <nob...@fool.foo> wrote in message
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Uh, retard boy, I'm 150 pounds, 30" waist.
Paul Popinjay
>
>
> Uh, retard boy, I'm 150 pounds, 30" waist.
>
We all know that, Beldin. There's not a poster on this newsgroup that
doesn't think you are 13 years old.
Beldin the Sorcerer
"Monty Burns" <ac6...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
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The entire waitstaff.
A surprise visit from federal officers to one San Francisco Chinatown
restaurant and arrest of a handful of illegal restaurant workers has rattled
the Chinese immigrant community, reports the Chinese-language Sing Tao
Daily. The motive for the visit is still unclear, but the FBI insists that
they were not there on a hunt for illegal immigrants.
Federal officials, including FBI agents, arrived at the "Chinatown
restaurant" on Sept. 21 and asked staff and customers for identification.
This led to the arrest of four undocumented Chinese workers. While the
officials said the purpose of their visit was classified, the article
speculates that it may be tied to labor violations by the restaurant's
former owner, Anna Wang, who is under investigation for failing to pay
workers at her garment factory.
Word of the incident spread rapidly throughout the community and many
workers have been afraid of going to their jobs, according to the report.
"Federal officials instilled fear in the community which must trust agencies
that are supposed to protect their rights no matter what their legal status
is," says Theodore Wang, acting executive director of Chinese for
Affirmative Action in San Francisco. He says employers who hire illegal
immigrants frequently threaten workers with reporting them and this incident
only reinforces employers' threats and this can lead to abuse of the
workers. "We want officials to enforce the laws, but they must figure out a
better way to do it," says Wang.
>
Beldin the Sorcerer
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>> "Paul Popinjay" <paulpo...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> There are 4 "all you can eat" chinese places that we frequent. Herself
>>>> and I often wonder how they can make a profit, given what they charge.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Maybe their meat bill is really low. Figure it out!
>>
>> Sushi and crablegs ain't cheap.
>>
>
>
> Yeah right, like you're going to take your little girlfriend to somewhere
> expensive. Get real, Beldin! You already told us about your FOUR
> favorite all-you-can-eat places in town.
No, idiot boy.
What I actually said was there were 4 of those types of restraunts we go to.
ONE is in town, 3 are outside of town.
That's right, FOUR OF THEM! We get the
> idea, Beldin. You're a bargain-hunting, coupon-clipping, penny-pinching
> cheap ass.
No, shithead.
She likes Sushi.It's cost effective there.
We also dine at nice places.
Mister Bigshot, the cat's out of the bag. Oops, did I say
> 'cat'?
That's your fucktoy, right?
>
Beldin the Sorcerer
Paulie, I haven't been a teenager for many decades
I realize YOU think everyone over 35 has to be a fat fuck.
Some of us believe in diet and exercise.
>
>
DaVoice
> "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>>
>> There are 4 "all you can eat" chinese places that we frequent. Herself
>> and I often wonder how they can make a profit, given what they charge.
>>
>
>
> Maybe their meat bill is really low. Figure it out!
The "Silk Road Buffet" at Cheyenne and Rainbow (which closed its doors for
good about a year ago was our favorite. They had changed names and
management from "Asia Buffet" and they were ALWAYS packed, served (from what
Peg, Rick, and many others I know that *know* sushi) great sushi, and crab
legs were on the buffet every day after 4 pm. This was the first Chinese
Restaurant we've frequented in 25 years that was atypical in that they
didn't have the "extended family" working there, in fact they had many
caucasians on the wait staff. This may have been why they went under.
(my Chinese Buffet in Las Vegas recommendation below)
I worked the hardest I ever worked in my life when I was a kid as a
dishwasher in a Chinese buffet in San Diego County, and there were only 3 of
us that worked there that weren't Chinese, and weren't a member of the
(supposed) family that owned the place. The owners were basically Slave
Drivers, and didn't treat us any better or worse than their "family".
Everyone busted their ass or was up shit creek. One of the younger women
that worked there had a degree in English that she got in China before
moving there, and told me that they were "friends of the family that owned
the place" and in exchange for sponsorship they had to agree to work
strictly for tips for 2 years, but didn't pay any rent or utilities in a
mansion-sized home, and all traveled to and from work in 2 white vans for
each shift.
The only Chinese buffet we frequent now is Buffet @ Asia #2 Which is on the
corner of Rainbow and Sahara right near Red Rock Harley Davidson.
http://www.usmenuguide.com/buffetatasia2.htm
I'm not sure if it is a huge extended family or "servitude" (which has
always been prevelant in big Chinese Buffets). This is by FAR the best "non
casino" Asian buffet in the City, and as you people know I KNOW my food and
by the time you're soft drink is half empty there is someone there
IMMEDIATELY filling your glass. They are extremely friendly and kid
friendly, although we haven't had any meals wrecked by "screaming babies",
probably because there are many CHEAPER Chinese buffets in the 2 mile sq
area around this one,. and when you have two or three "little ones" every $5
saved per adult price adds up.
Not that it's expensive @ $12.99 (weekdays) and $15.99 on weekends when they
add "lobster". Unfortunately we fell for the "lobster" price one time, and
they make two lobster DISHES, Ginger Lobster and another lobster dish that
ALSO covers up and destroys the flavor of the lobster. Their Mongolian BBQ
is to die for, I know between my son and I we eat at least $50-60 of crab
legs each trip and Peg eats another $10 or so worth. We haven't been for the
$8.29 lunch because we go for the Crab and mongolian BBQ, but we pay $50 for
the 3 adults and our 4 year old grandson and are never disappointed.
There is a big history of families pooling their monies when a family member
moves to the U.S., they open a restaurant and then sponsor other family
members for LEGAL immigration (as long as they work for very cheap and live
in a large house together). After they get their green cards, they then
take the Citizenship courses, pass the test, become citizens and in turn
sponsor the next family member, and so on.
I can assure you that they don't serve cat, dog or horse at the restaurant
we go to, so I'm guessing there is some sort of "Pay to Play" system with
the (nearly 100%) Chinese immigrant staff.
--
Rick "ADB DaVoice" Charles
http://www.voiceofpoker.com
Jerry Sturdivant
"DaVoice"
> The only Chinese buffet we frequent now is Buffet @ Asia
> #2 Which is on the corner of Rainbow and Sahara right near
> Red Rock Harley Davidson.
You through me for a moment with the Harley Davidson; until I remember it
moved. Again. But you are correct; it�s the best Chinese buffet in town.
I always have trouble knowing what to order when we go to Chinatown (Spring
Mountain area) because different names have different meanings to different
restraints. At the buffet, what you see is what you grab.
I can only hope they stay open, for restaurants are dropping like flies
(excuse the poor metaphor) in this town. We just lost my favorite, here in
Summerlin (Adam�s Ribs). So it�s back to Tony Roma�s.
> There is a big history of families pooling their monies
> when a family member moves to the U.S., they open a restaurant
> and then sponsor other family members for LEGAL immigration
> (as long as they work for very cheap and live in a large
> house together). After they get their green cards, they
> then take the Citizenship courses, pass the test, become
> citizens and in turn sponsor the next family member, and so on.
And not just in the restaurant business. They do take care of their own.
> I can assure you that they don't serve cat, dog or horse
> at the restaurant we go to, so I'm guessing there is some
> sort of "Pay to Play" system with the (nearly 100%) Chinese
> immigrant staff.
My son and his wife nearly lived at Osaka�s on Sahara (the only 5-star
restaurant outside Japan). One of the cooks quit and opened something around
Lake Mead or Cheyenne on the west side. He�d take my son and wife; me and
mine; and after 10 PM, when the Chinese workers themselves go out and eat,
to where the Chinese themselves eat. (No English on the menus). He would try
out various foods on us to see what �Americans� like. We�d give an honest
opinion. We�d have to; some of it was real �mystery meat.� But a dining
experience, nonetheless. If we liked it, he�d add it to his menu.
I�m sorry I can�t remember the name of the place. He�s a real international
guy in that he�s owned restaurants all over the world. He moved from Brazil
not long ago and while sitting and eating with him at his place, he�ll
converse with his employees in Portuguese, Spanish, Chinese (or Japanese,
who knows?). When I inquired, he knew 7 languages.
Ever had tea at the Tea Planet? Served with a big straw so you could suck up
the tapioca balls? Strange food, indeed.
Jerry (hungry and hour later) �n Vegas
K9way
AND A QUALITY DIET AS EXHIBITED IN THE OP
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Bea Foroni
, I'm still reading the links. But it does reenforce something I read
a while back; that Chinese immigrants use social service money at
rates higher than other ethnic groups.
ramashiva
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> "A Man Beaten by Jacks" <nob...@fool.foo> wrote in messagenews:51fqv414bpqmpp15g...@4ax.com...
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> > On Sat, 2 May 2009 21:06:35 -0700, "Paul Popinjay"
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> >>"Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> >>> "Paul Popinjay" <paulpopin...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> >>>> "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> >>>>> There are 4 "all you can eat" chinese places that we frequent. Herself
> >>>>> and I often wonder how they can make a profit, given what they charge.
>
> >>>> Maybe their meat bill is really low. Â Figure it out!
>
> >>> Sushi and crablegs ain't cheap.
>
> >>Yeah right, like you're going to take your little girlfriend to somewhere
> >>expensive. Â Get real, Beldin! Â You already told us about your FOUR
> >>favorite
> >>all-you-can-eat places in town. Â That's right, FOUR OF THEM! Â We get the
> >>idea, Beldin. Â You're a bargain-hunting, coupon-clipping, penny-pinching
> >>cheap ass. Â Mister Bigshot, the cat's out of the bag. Â Oops, did I say
> >>'cat'?
>
> > You forgot FAT FUCK!
>
> Uh, retard boy, I'm 150 pounds, 30" waist
150 pounds? LMFAO! I always thought you were a pencil-necked punk.
You've got a big fucking mouth hiding behind an anonymous screen
name. I'll tell you what. If you ever go to BARGE, you better not
announce that fact on RGP, because I will make it a point to look you
up.
I would love to see the expression on your face when a guy as big as a
Volkswagen, dressed all in black, accosted you and informed you that
he was Ramashiva.
You would probably shit your pants, fall on your knees, and beg for
mercy. In that case, Ramashiva, the compassionate and merciful, would
grant you mercy. Knowing you, you might instead insult me, thinking I
wouldn't dare resort to physical violence with security guards
around. You wouldn't be the first person to make that mistake.
William Coleman (ramashiva)
Paul Popinjay
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> I would love to see the expression on your face when a guy as big as a
> Volkswagen, dressed all in black, accosted you and informed you that
> he was Ramashiva.
I would too. Somebody please capture that on their cell phone.
Bea Foroni
> "ramashiva" <ramash...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
Before you continue to harrass and intimidate, please know it would
not be hard to find where you live too. I don't care if you're a
midget, its your attitude dude,
Pepe Papon
<rama...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Uh, retard boy, I'm 150 pounds, 30" waist
>
>150 pounds? LMFAO! I always thought you were a pencil-necked punk.
>
>You've got a big fucking mouth hiding behind an anonymous screen
>name. I'll tell you what. If you ever go to BARGE, you better not
>announce that fact on RGP, because I will make it a point to look you
>up.
>
>I would love to see the expression on your face when a guy as big as a
>Volkswagen, dressed all in black, accosted you and informed you that
>he was Ramashiva.
>
>You would probably shit your pants, fall on your knees, and beg for
>mercy. In that case, Ramashiva, the compassionate and merciful, would
>grant you mercy. Knowing you, you might instead insult me, thinking I
>wouldn't dare resort to physical violence with security guards
>around. You wouldn't be the first person to make that mistake.
You could charge admission for that.
Monty Burns
I sit corrected Beldin, you have clearly researched this quite thoroughly,
and have earned your junior G-Man star for the week. Just curious, didn't
the workers at all those restaurants get a little curious when you started
asking them all their last names?
DaVoice (recgroups)
> "DaVoice"
>
> > The only Chinese buffet we frequent now is Buffet @ Asia
> > #2 Which is on the corner of Rainbow and Sahara right near
> > Red Rock Harley Davidson.
>
> You through me for a moment with the Harley Davidson; until I remember it
> moved. Again. But you are correct; it�ｿｽs the best Chinese buffet in town.
Without question, and I think they still have 4 locations. I can't speak
to the other locations, but #2 is GREAT.
> I always have trouble knowing what to order when we go to Chinatown (Spring
> Mountain area) because different names have different meanings to different
> restraints. At the buffet, what you see is what you grab.
I know what you mean. That Chinatown is VERY good.
> I can only hope they stay open, for restaurants are dropping like flies
> (excuse the poor metaphor) in this town. We just lost my favorite, here in
> Summerlin (Adam�ｿｽs Ribs). So it�ｿｽs back to Tony Roma�ｿｽs.
Yeah, but there is a PLUS to that, the Tony Roma's at Fitzgerald's has the
Steak and Lobster special after 9 pm IIRC.
> > There is a big history of families pooling their monies
> > when a family member moves to the U.S., they open a restaurant
> > and then sponsor other family members for LEGAL immigration
> > (as long as they work for very cheap and live in a large
> > house together). After they get their green cards, they
> > then take the Citizenship courses, pass the test, become
> > citizens and in turn sponsor the next family member, and so on.
>
> And not just in the restaurant business. They do take care of their own.
Very true.
Rick "ADB DaVoice" Charles
http://www.voiceofpoker.com
Posting through recgroups because Cox
changed nntp servers and the new one SUCKS!
____________________________________________________________________�ｿｽ
Pepe Papon
Paul Popinjay
That's not me. My shoe size is smaller.
Beldin the Sorcerer
"K9way" <ad1...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
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> On May 3 2009 5:01 AM, Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:
>
>> "Paul Popinjay" <paulpo...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:qhbLl.17299$D32....@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com...
>> > "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> > news:%ebLl.2084$fy....@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...
>> >>
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Uh, retard boy, I'm 150 pounds, 30" waist.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > We all know that, Beldin. There's not a poster on this newsgroup that
>> > doesn't think you are 13 years old.
>>
>> Paulie, I haven't been a teenager for many decades
>>
>> I realize YOU think everyone over 35 has to be a fat fuck.
>> Some of us believe in diet and exercise.
>>
>>
>> >
>> >
>
> AND A QUALITY DIET AS EXHIBITED IN THE OP
>
When I go AYCE, I hit the chicken and the vegetable dishes.
While I will cop to a weakness for ice cream, the vast majority of my
calories are from sources other than fat.
I've been 150 pounds since I dieted after getting my thyroid med balanced.
What's your fat ass weigh?
K9way
You are always interested in the :"ass" thingy ...arent you ?
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A punk who was doing 100 push ups a set last year.
Had to stop them; I developed exertion headaches.
But, retard boy, I dropped my weight from 198 to 143. Then put on to 152,
while losing 2" more on my waistline.
I still do more than an hour a day on the exercycle, on average, though that
too is down lately, dealing with my beloved's illness.
I'm sure I'm in better shape than you, retard boy.
***
You've got a big fucking mouth hiding behind an anonymous screen
name. I'll tell you what. If you ever go to BARGE, you better not
announce that fact on RGP, because I will make it a point to look you
up.
***
And do what? Shit your pants in front of me and fan the smell at me?
You're over 60. Don't give yourself a heart attack.
***
I would love to see the expression on your face when a guy as big as a
Volkswagen, dressed all in black, accosted you and informed you that
he was Ramashiva.
***
Well, while I was rolling on the floor laughing my ass off, you mght get a
kick or two in.
***
You would probably shit your pants, fall on your knees, and beg for
mercy. In that case, Ramashiva, the compassionate and merciful, would
grant you mercy. Knowing you, you might instead insult me, thinking I
wouldn't dare resort to physical violence with security guards
around. You wouldn't be the first person to make that mistake.
***
Ramsitintheass, I don't resort to physical violence.
And I wouldn't insult you in person.... you're too delusional to do that to.
Beldin the Sorcerer
"Pepe Papon" <hitme...@mindspring.com.invalid> wrote in message
Pepe, you write country songs, for christ's sake.
Your whole life is about looking for things to laugh at.
And ramsitintheass falling down and shitting himself would amuse most
people.
Beldin the Sorcerer
You're both in the same body.
>
>
Beldin the Sorcerer
"Bea Foroni" <BeaF...@msn.com> wrote in message
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The Willie/Paul loonacy is nothing to fear, Bea.
Beldin the Sorcerer
"Monty Burns" <ac6...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
Amazingly, they were on their nametags.
ramashiva
wrote:
> Ramsitintheass,
Ah yes. Still another implication of faggotry used as an insult. But
you are a big supporter of gay rights.
> I don't resort to physical violence.
I do.
> And I wouldn't insult you in person....
Of course you wouldn't. You are an anonymous internet coward.
William Coleman (ramashiva)
Pepe Papon
That would explain why I read your posts except that, like so many
other things, you know nothing about country music.
Pepe Papon
IHeartWuzzy
Naw... that's not our PP, either. That guy actually has a job.
Here he is:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3219/2782136711_49364ba74a.jpg?v=0
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>
> Here he is:
> http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3219/2782136711_49364ba74a.jpg?v=0
>
Holy shit! Look at the rod that guy has!
Beldin the Sorcerer
"K9way" <ad1...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> On May 4 2009 9:43 AM, Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:
>
>> "K9way" <ad1...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:efp0d6x...@recgroups.com...
>> > On May 3 2009 5:01 AM, Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Paul Popinjay" <paulpo...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:qhbLl.17299$D32....@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com...
>> >> > "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> >> > news:%ebLl.2084$fy....@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Uh, retard boy, I'm 150 pounds, 30" waist.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > We all know that, Beldin. There's not a poster on this newsgroup
>> >> > that
>> >> > doesn't think you are 13 years old.
>> >>
>> >> Paulie, I haven't been a teenager for many decades
>> >>
>> >> I realize YOU think everyone over 35 has to be a fat fuck.
>> >> Some of us believe in diet and exercise.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >
>> > AND A QUALITY DIET AS EXHIBITED IN THE OP
>> >
>> Actually, yes.
>>
>> When I go AYCE, I hit the chicken and the vegetable dishes.
>>
>> While I will cop to a weakness for ice cream, the vast majority of my
>> calories are from sources other than fat.
>>
>> I've been 150 pounds since I dieted after getting my thyroid med
>> balanced.
>>
>> What's your fat ass weigh?
>
> You are always interested in the :"ass" thingy ...arent you ?
But you accused me of being fat, which is really stupid given I've discussed
my weight loss several times.
Beldin the Sorcerer
"Pepe Papon" <hitme...@mindspring.com.invalid> wrote in message
***
Sure I do.
Play a song backwards, you get back your truck, you get back your house, you
get back your girl.
Beldin the Sorcerer
> Ramsitintheass,
Ah yes. Still another implication of faggotry used as an insult. But
you are a big supporter of gay rights.
***
No, shithead.
There's nothing gay in that statement.
***
> I don't resort to physical violence.
I do.
***
Well, sure, you TRY.
Old fart like you might havea corinary.
***
> And I wouldn't insult you in person....
Of course you wouldn't. You are an anonymous internet coward.
***
Hell no.
Shit for brains, I'd look at your miserable face and be flooded by pity for
your poor existence.
ramashiva
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> "ramashiva" <ramash...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> news:d1ed011b-4e70-4bfd...@w35g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On May 4, 7:37 am, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Ramsitintheass,
>
> Ah yes. Â Still another implication of faggotry used as an insult. Â But
> you are a big supporter of gay rights.
> ***
> No, shithead.
> There's nothing gay in that statement.
Of course there is.
> > I don't resort to physical violence.
>
> I do.
> ***
> Well, sure, you TRY.
You might want to talk to some of the people I have put in the
hospital with broken bones and concussions. You really have no idea
who or what I am. As usual, you confuse your delusional opinions with
objective reality.
> Old fart like you might havea corinary.
Unlikely, since my blood pressure is 110/70 and my pulse is 60.
> > And I wouldn't insult you in person....
>
> Of course you wouldn't. Â You are an anonymous internet coward.
>
> ***
> Hell no.
Hell yes.
> Shit for brains, I'd look at your miserable face and be flooded by pity for
> your poor existence.
Of course you don't know what you would do. Most likely, as I said,
you would shit your pants, fall on your knees, and beg for mercy.
William Coleman (ramashiva)
Bea Foroni
Hey Bildo, do you like to be called midgets or dwarves? I just can't
keep up sometimes
ramashiva
Call me whatever you like. I am 6'2" and weigh 300.
William Coleman (ramashiva)
Pepe Papon
Q.E.D.
Beldin the Sorcerer
"Pepe Papon" <hitme...@mindspring.com.invalid> wrote in message
Doesn't change the fact that the genre tends to be depressing. Also Twangy.
Shania Twain is a real hottie, but her pop versions of videos sold really
well, and the all country versions ended up in the dollar store (my sweetie
picked it up as a gag gift)
Beldin the Sorcerer
On May 5, 5:59 am, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net>
wrote:
> "ramashiva" <ramash...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>
> news:d1ed011b-4e70-4bfd...@w35g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On May 4, 7:37 am, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Ramsitintheass,
>
> Ah yes. Still another implication of faggotry used as an insult. But
> you are a big supporter of gay rights.
> ***
> No, shithead.
> There's nothing gay in that statement.
Of course there is.
***
You think anal sex is strictly a homosexual activity?
Just how retarded are you?
***
> > I don't resort to physical violence.
>
> I do.
> ***
> Well, sure, you TRY.
You might want to talk to some of the people I have put in the
hospital with broken bones and concussions. You really have no idea
who or what I am. As usual, you confuse your delusional opinions with
objective reality.
***
Shithead, you're a guy in your 60's. According to you.
As such, right now you're not a huge threat.
Sure, you could pull out a baseball bat or a gun or something. So could most
people.
***
> Old fart like you might havea corinary.
Unlikely, since my blood pressure is 110/70 and my pulse is 60.
***
You sure your eyes can read the numbers ok?
You babbled about monetizing your time on stars playing tournaments, or
something, yet you lose money there.
***
> > And I wouldn't insult you in person....
>
> Of course you wouldn't. You are an anonymous internet coward.
>
> ***
> Hell no.
Hell yes.
***
Willie, please.
***
> Shit for brains, I'd look at your miserable face and be flooded by pity
> for
> your poor existence.
Of course you don't know what you would do. Most likely, as I said,
you would shit your pants, fall on your knees, and beg for mercy.
***
Wager on that?
ramashiva
wrote:
> "ramashiva" <ramash...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>
> news:2ba1bdb4-8ce1-434b...@f41g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
> On May 5, 5:59 am, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
> > "ramashiva" <ramash...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>
> >news:d1ed011b-4e70-4bfd...@w35g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> > On May 4, 7:37 am, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net>
> > wrote:
>
> > > Ramsitintheass,
>
> > Ah yes. Still another implication of faggotry used as an insult. But
> > you are a big supporter of gay rights.
> > No, shithead.
> > There's nothing gay in that statement.
> Of course there is.
> You think anal sex is strictly a homosexual activity?
No. Given your long history of insults suggesting I am a faggot,
while denying you think I am, my interpretation is quite reasonable.
> Just how retarded are you?
It is rather inappropriate for you to insult my intelligence, since
you declined to wager on the outcome of a comparative IQ test, on the
grounds that I would somehow rig the test in my favor. Please explain
how you rig an IQ test.
> > > I don't resort to physical violence.
> > I do.
> > Well, sure, you TRY.
> You might want to talk to some of the people I have put in the
> hospital with broken bones and concussions. Â You really have no idea
> who or what I am. Â As usual, you confuse your delusional opinions with
> objective reality.
> Shithead, you're a guy in your 60's. According to you.
> As such, right now you're not a huge threat.
LMFAO! You seriously think there are not millions of men in their
60's who could kick your ass???
> Sure, you could pull out a baseball bat or a gun or something. So could most
> people.
I would only do that with someone I thought could kick my ass. You
are a pencil-necked runt who wouldn't last 30 seconds in a physical
confrontation with me.
> > Old fart like you might havea corinary.
> Unlikely, since my blood pressure is 110/70 and my pulse is 60.
> You sure your eyes can read the numbers ok?
Yup. You simply do not understand what completing two forty-day fasts
does to the human body. My veins, arteries, and digestive system are
completely cleaned out. I have the strength, endurance, and
cardiovascular system of a world class athlete. That is FACT,
numbnuts.
> You babbled about monetizing your time on stars playing tournaments, or
> something, yet you lose money there.
Don't you ever get tired of just making shit up??? I do not lose
money on Pokerstars. I have made a consistent living playing there
for years. My primary play is cash games, not tournaments. Most of
my tournament play is the VIP freerolls, where I do quite well. If
you are looking at some Sharkscope statistics which show me losing
money in tournaments with a cash buyin, you need to understand that is
a very small part of my play.
> > > And I wouldn't insult you in person....
> > Of course you wouldn't. You are an anonymous internet coward.
> > Hell no.
> Hell yes.
> Willie, please.
You ARE an anonymous internet coward. You hide behind an anonymous
screen name, while hurling insults which you would never dare repeat
face to face.
> > Shit for brains, I'd look at your miserable face and be flooded by pity
> > for your poor existence.
> Of course you don't know what you would do. Â Most likely, as I said,
> you would shit your pants, fall on your knees, and beg for mercy.
> Wager on that?
Such trash talking bravado is meaningless, since we both know that you
would never, ever agree to meet me face to face.
William Coleman (ramashiva)
Pepe Papon
<beld...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>"Pepe Papon" <hitme...@mindspring.com.invalid> wrote in message
>news:mrf10514o0i58bdte...@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 05 May 2009 12:56:20 GMT, "Beldin the Sorcerer"
>> <beld...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>> you know nothing about country music.
>>>
>>>***
>>>Sure I do.
>>>Play a song backwards, you get back your truck, you get back your house,
>>>you
>>>get back your girl.
>>
>> Q.E.D.
>It's an old joke, Seth.
Gee, no kidding, really? This was the first time I've ever heard it.
Except for all the other times.
>Doesn't change the fact that the genre tends to be depressing. Also Twangy.
Depressing? Then why, in your original post, did you say that, as a
country songwriter, I'm only looking for things to laugh at?
I look forward to your answer, although it won't change the fact that
you know nothing about country music.
>Shania Twain is a real hottie, but her pop versions of videos sold really
>well, and the all country versions ended up in the dollar store (my sweetie
>picked it up as a gag gift)
Let me guess - you're thinking that this somehow supports your point.
Pepe Papon
<rama...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>It is rather inappropriate for you to insult my intelligence, since
>you declined to wager on the outcome of a comparative IQ test, on the
>grounds that I would somehow rig the test in my favor. Please explain
>how you rig an IQ test.
What makes this extra hilarious is that, in a previous thread, Beldin
vehemently insisted the only reason for turning down a comparative IQ
challenge was fear of losing. Isn't that right, Beldin? There's
no other possible reason, according to you.
Beldin the Sorcerer
"Pepe Papon" <hitme...@mindspring.com.invalid> wrote in message
No, idiot boy, when there's no financial incentive to cheat, there's no
reason.
I got no objection to testing.
It's the incentive he has to cheat I want removed
Beldin the Sorcerer
"Pepe Papon" <hitme...@mindspring.com.invalid> wrote in message
> On Wed, 06 May 2009 03:24:55 GMT, "Beldin the Sorcerer"
> <beld...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Pepe Papon" <hitme...@mindspring.com.invalid> wrote in message
>>news:mrf10514o0i58bdte...@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 05 May 2009 12:56:20 GMT, "Beldin the Sorcerer"
>>> <beld...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> you know nothing about country music.
>>>>
>>>>***
>>>>Sure I do.
>>>>Play a song backwards, you get back your truck, you get back your house,
>>>>you
>>>>get back your girl.
>>>
>>> Q.E.D.
>>It's an old joke, Seth.
>
> Gee, no kidding, really? This was the first time I've ever heard it.
> Except for all the other times.
>
>>Doesn't change the fact that the genre tends to be depressing. Also
>>Twangy.
>
> Depressing? Then why, in your original post, did you say that, as a
> country songwriter, I'm only looking for things to laugh at?
>
> I look forward to your answer, although it won't change the fact that
> you know nothing about country music.
month.
Damn near made me sick.
>
>>Shania Twain is a real hottie, but her pop versions of videos sold really
>>well, and the all country versions ended up in the dollar store (my
>>sweetie
>>picked it up as a gag gift)
>
> Let me guess - you're thinking that this somehow supports your point.
Of course it does.
People don't like country much. It's a much smaller market.
Beldin the Sorcerer
On May 5, 8:56 pm, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net>
wrote:
> "ramashiva" <ramash...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>
> news:2ba1bdb4-8ce1-434b...@f41g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
> On May 5, 5:59 am, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
> > "ramashiva" <ramash...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>
> >news:d1ed011b-4e70-4bfd...@w35g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> > On May 4, 7:37 am, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net>
> > wrote:
>
> > > Ramsitintheass,
>
> > Ah yes. Still another implication of faggotry used as an insult. But
> > you are a big supporter of gay rights.
> > No, shithead.
> > There's nothing gay in that statement.
> Of course there is.
> You think anal sex is strictly a homosexual activity?
No. Given your long history of insults suggesting I am a faggot,
while denying you think I am, my interpretation is quite reasonable.
***
Circular argument, shit for brains.
I call you ramsitintheass.
There's nothing gay in that statement.
You refer to it as gay anyway because, well, you're a shithead.
You then use it's repetition as a prop for your claim I call you gay
repeatedly.
I don't think your gay, Willie.
I think you're STUPID, but you demonstrate that often.
***
> Just how retarded are you?
It is rather inappropriate for you to insult my intelligence, since
you declined to wager on the outcome of a comparative IQ test, on the
grounds that I would somehow rig the test in my favor. Please explain
how you rig an IQ test.
***
You hire someone to prepare it, or you bribe the evaluation of it.
***
> > > I don't resort to physical violence.
> > I do.
> > Well, sure, you TRY.
> You might want to talk to some of the people I have put in the
> hospital with broken bones and concussions. You really have no idea
> who or what I am. As usual, you confuse your delusional opinions with
> objective reality.
> Shithead, you're a guy in your 60's. According to you.
> As such, right now you're not a huge threat.
LMFAO! You seriously think there are not millions of men in their
60's who could kick your ass???
***
Yeah.
In fact I'll wager you can't find 2 million men in their 60's I can't
outlast in a fight.
We lean, buff, agile types can run circles around you old farts.
***
> Sure, you could pull out a baseball bat or a gun or something. So could
> most
> people.
I would only do that with someone I thought could kick my ass. You
are a pencil-necked runt who wouldn't last 30 seconds in a physical
confrontation with me.
***
Shit for brains, my neck isn't as big as Arnold's, but I don't have a gut,
and I'm in good shape.
I don't sit on my ass all day.
***
> > Old fart like you might havea corinary.
> Unlikely, since my blood pressure is 110/70 and my pulse is 60.
> You sure your eyes can read the numbers ok?
Yup. You simply do not understand what completing two forty-day fasts
does to the human body.
***
Generally, it kills it.
But you're delusional, so most people assume that never really happened.
***
My veins, arteries, and digestive system are
completely cleaned out. I have the strength, endurance, and
cardiovascular system of a world class athlete. That is FACT,
numbnuts.
***
your mind is completely emptied out.
Entropy hasn't been reversed yet....
***
> You babbled about monetizing your time on stars playing tournaments, or
> something, yet you lose money there.
Don't you ever get tired of just making shit up??? I do not lose
money on Pokerstars. I have made a consistent living playing there
for years. My primary play is cash games, not tournaments. Most of
my tournament play is the VIP freerolls, where I do quite well. If
you are looking at some Sharkscope statistics which show me losing
money in tournaments with a cash buyin, you need to understand that is
a very small part of my play.
***
I'm looking at OPR, which shows you're a huge tourney donk.
If you're claiming you win at all the things we can't check, and lose big
only where we can check, you'll pardon my disbelief.
Here, look for yourself.
http://www.officialpokerrankings.com/pokerstars/ramashiva/poker/results/38B987A2AF954EDFB5C240BCCDF2E7B7.html?t=2
-49% roi
happy to do me in comparison
+66% roi
> > > And I wouldn't insult you in person....
> > Of course you wouldn't. You are an anonymous internet coward.
> > Hell no.
> Hell yes.
> Willie, please.
You ARE an anonymous internet coward. You hide behind an anonymous
screen name, while hurling insults which you would never dare repeat
face to face.
***
Willy, you're mentally defective.
I'd be happy to tell you that face to face, but you're also mentally
unstable.
You've threatened people with violence.
I've told people in newsgroups my real names. Just not the whackjobs like
you.
***
> > Shit for brains, I'd look at your miserable face and be flooded by pity
> > for your poor existence.
> Of course you don't know what you would do. Most likely, as I said,
> you would shit your pants, fall on your knees, and beg for mercy.
> Wager on that?
Such trash talking bravado is meaningless, since we both know that you
would never, ever agree to meet me face to face.
***
Wager on THAT?
DaVoice (recgroups)
> People don't like country much. It's a much smaller market.
You just made the most RIDICULOUS STATEMENT IN HISTORY. Have you ever
heard of "Billboard" or "Radio and Records". They chart airplay, album
sales, singles sales. Try going to one of their sites before you make a
statement like that. There are MORE Country Radio stations in the U.S.
than ANY OTHER FORMAT.
*****
"risky biz"wrote That's bullshit. I placed my palms together and bowed
slightly when I asked.
I replied:
> I guess you learned that trick from Mr. Obama.
lol Post of the year! Good one, Rick! You must be feeling better.
- Paul (Genarro) Popinjay 5/4/09
Rick "ADB DaVoice" Charles
http://www.voiceofpoker.com
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ramashiva
wrote:
> "ramashiva" <ramash...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>
> news:ae912b48-5fda-4c1e...@w35g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On May 5, 8:56 pm, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net>
> wrote:
> > "ramashiva" <ramash...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>
> >news:2ba1bdb4-8ce1-434b...@f41g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
> > On May 5, 5:59 am, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net>
> > wrote:
>
> > > "ramashiva" <ramash...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>
> > >news:d1ed011b-4e70-4bfd...@w35g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> > > On May 4, 7:37 am, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > Ramsitintheass,
>
> > > Ah yes. Still another implication of faggotry used as an insult. But
> > > you are a big supporter of gay rights.
> > > No, shithead.
> > > There's nothing gay in that statement.
> > Of course there is.
> > You think anal sex is strictly a homosexual activity?
>
> No.  Given your long history of  insults suggesting I am a faggot,
> while denying you think I am, my interpretation is quite reasonable.
> Circular argument, shit for brains.
Not at all.
> I call you ramsitintheass.
> There's nothing gay in that statement.
> You refer to it as gay anyway because, well, you're a shithead.
> You then use it's repetition as a prop for your claim I call you gay
> repeatedly.
Why are you lying??? I am referring to many other insults which
unambiguously suggested that I was a faggot.
> I don't think your gay, Willie.
> I think you're STUPID, but you demonstrate that often.
Then why won't you bet on the outcome of a comparative IQ test?
Because I might cheat? LMFAO! I wouldn't need to cheat. I would
crush you by many standard deviations, and you know it.
> > Just how retarded are you?
> It is rather inappropriate for you to insult my intelligence, since
> you declined to wager on the outcome of a comparative IQ test, on the
> grounds that I would somehow rig the test in my favor. Â Please explain
> how you rig an IQ test.
> You hire someone to prepare it, or you bribe the evaluation of it.
Oh please. You are assuming I would have complete control over what
test we took. You are just copping out because you know you would
lose badly.
> > > > I don't resort to physical violence.
> > > I do.
> > > Well, sure, you TRY.
> > You might want to talk to some of the people I have put in the
> > hospital with broken bones and concussions. You really have no idea
> > who or what I am. As usual, you confuse your delusional opinions with
> > objective reality.
> > Shithead, you're a guy in your 60's. According to you.
> > As such, right now you're not a huge threat.
>
> LMFAO! Â You seriously think there are not millions of men in their
> 60's who could kick your ass???
> Yeah.
> In fact I'll wager you can't find 2 million men in their 60's I can't
> outlast in a fight.
Yeah, I'm sure that's feasible.
> We lean, buff, agile types can run circles around you old farts.
Running circles around me won't win the fight. I get my hands on you,
or I land one punch, and the fight is over. I have had considerable
experience fighting young athletic types with martial arts experience,
but who were much smaller than me. It didn't end well for any of
them.
> > Sure, you could pull out a baseball bat or a gun or something. So could
> > most people.
> I would only do that with someone I thought could kick my ass. Â You
> are a pencil-necked runt who wouldn't last 30 seconds in a physical
> confrontation with me.
> Shit for brains, my neck isn't as big as Arnold's,
Mine's bigger. Dr. Sheldon Deal, who has muscle tested both Arnold
and me, says I am stronger than Arnold.
> but I don't have a gut, and I'm in good shape.
Big fucking deal. That won't help you at all against a man who weighs
twice what you do, is much stronger, and knows how to fight.
If you seriously think you can kick my ass, or even last for any
length of time against me, I invite you to pay me a visit anytime.
Of course, you won't do that. You are just an anonymous coward
indulging in trashtalking he knows he will never have to back up.
> I don't sit on my ass all day.
> > > Old fart like you might havea corinary.
> > Unlikely, since my blood pressure is 110/70 and my pulse is 60.
> > You sure your eyes can read the numbers ok?
> Yup. Â You simply do not understand what completing two forty-day fasts
> does to the human body.
> Generally, it kills it.
No it doesn't. I have come out of each fast much stronger and
measurably biologically younger. You know nothing about fasting, so
you really should just sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up.
> But you're delusional,
LMFAO! Excuse me, you think Mr. Popinjay and I are the same person.
Now that's delusional.
> so most people assume that never really happened.
Why do you claim to speak for most people? Of course the fasts
happened. Once again, you are making false assertions about matters
you know nothing about, while I have first-hand knowledge and know I
completed these fasts.
> Â My veins, arteries, and digestive system are
> completely cleaned out. Â I have the strength, endurance, and
> cardiovascular system of a world class athlete. Â That is FACT,
> numbnuts.
> your mind is completely emptied out.
True. That is the meditative state of complete enlightenment, which,
as a perfected Kundalini Yoga Master, I have achieved.
> Entropy hasn't been reversed yet....
False. A forty-day fast leaves the body stronger and biologically
younger, as measured by objective biological markers. I am a master
faster, and you know nothing of the subject.
> > You babbled about monetizing your time on stars playing tournaments, or
> > something, yet you lose money there.
> Don't you ever get tired of just making shit up??? Â I do not lose
> money on Pokerstars. Â I have made a consistent living playing there
> for years. Â My primary play is cash games, not tournaments. Â Most of
> my tournament play is the VIP freerolls, where I do quite well. Â If
> you are looking at some Sharkscope statistics which show me losing
> money in tournaments with a cash buyin, you need to understand that is
> a very small part of my play.
> I'm looking at OPR, which shows you're a huge tourney donk.
> If you're claiming you win at all the things we can't check, and lose big
> only where we can check, you'll pardon my disbelief.
I do not give a fuck what you believe. Again, you are forming
opinions about matters of which you have absolutely no knowledge,
whereas I have first hand knowledge of how much I win at Pokerstars.
> Here, look for yourself.http://www.officialpokerrankings.com/pokerstars/ramashiva/poker/resul...
Well, that information is incorrect. I just used Pokertracker to
filter my tournament results to exclude freerolls, and only include
tournaments with a cash buyin. The results --
43 tournaments with a total buyin of $501.85. Total win -- $507.47.
ROI -- +1.12%. Not impressive, but certainly not the total donk you
claim I am.
These are all the cash tournaments I have played on Pokerstars, going
back to 2005, with the possible exception of a few I played recently,
because I have been having problems importing tournament summaries,
and have not been able to import my last 36 tournaments. Maybe three
of these were small cash tournaments, and my recollection is that I
broke about even on those.
Once again, I have first hand knowledge, you have information from a
website which obviously doesn't include all the cash tournaments I
have played at Pokerstars since 2005.
> -49% roi
> happy to do me in comparison
>
> http://www.officialpokerrankings.com/fulltiltpoker/The_Sorcerer/poker...
>
> +66% roi
It says a lot about you that you feel the need to boast about your
winnings playing $1 tournaments. Again, I never claimed to be a
strong tournament player. As I said, I make most of my money in cash
games.
> > > > And I wouldn't insult you in person....
> > > Of course you wouldn't. You are an anonymous internet coward.
> > > Hell no.
> > Hell yes.
> > Willie, please.
>
> You ARE an anonymous internet coward. Â You hide behind an anonymous
> screen name, while hurling insults which you would never dare repeat
> face to face.
> Willy, you're mentally defective.
> I'd be happy to tell you that face to face,
No you wouldn't. You would never dare, and you know it. Once again,
the anonymous internet coward that you are, you are engaging in
trashtalking bravado which you know you will never have to back up.
> but you're also mentally unstable.
Nonsense.
> You've threatened people with violence.
So what?
> I've told people in newsgroups my real names. Just not the whackjobs like
> you.
Oh bullshit. You have a copout explanation for everything. You won't
bet on an IQ test because I might rig it. You won't publish your real
name on RGP because I am a whackjob. Let's see. On the one hand you
would be happy to tell me to my face that I am mentally defective. On
the other hand, you won't tell me your name because I am a whack job.
> > > Shit for brains, I'd look at your miserable face and be flooded by pity
> > > for your poor existence.
> > Of course you don't know what you would do. Most likely, as I said,
> > you would shit your pants, fall on your knees, and beg for mercy.
> > Wager on that?
>
> Such trash talking bravado is meaningless, since we both know that you
> would never, ever agree to meet me face to face.
> ***
> Wager on THAT?
Sure. I bet you $5 that you will never agree to meet me face to face
and actually do so.
I am done with you in this thread. It really gets tiresome dealing
with your lies, delusions, and trash talk. I am interested in only
three things.
If you want to bet serious money on an IQ test, let me know.
If you think you can kick my ass, please pay me a visit.
If you are willing to meet me face to face to win $5, let me know.
William Coleman (ramashiva)
mo_charles
> > other things, you know nothing about country music.
>
> ***
> Sure I do.
> Play a song backwards, you get back your truck, you get back your house, you
> get back your girl.
rofl
mo_charles
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Pepe Papon
<beld...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> I look forward to your answer, although it won't change the fact that
>> you know nothing about country music.
>Jesus, shithead, I was forced to listen to that crap 4 hours a day for a
>month.
>Damn near made me sick.
Fascinating. You listened for four hours a day and you still know
nothing about it. Or are you going to assert that you know more than
an industry professional? Go ahead, it wouldn't be the first time
you've made such a ridiculous claim.
>>>Shania Twain is a real hottie, but her pop versions of videos sold really
>>>well, and the all country versions ended up in the dollar store (my
>>>sweetie
>>>picked it up as a gag gift)
>>
>> Let me guess - you're thinking that this somehow supports your point.
>Of course it does.
>People don't like country much.
Many people don't like it, but many people do.
>It's a much smaller market.
Which proves nothing other than that it's a much smaller market. Not
only doesn't it prove the point you were trying to make, it's a very
big stretch to even imagine it as evidence.
Pepe Papon
Nice backpedal, idiot boy.
>I got no objection to testing.
>It's the incentive he has to cheat I want removed
With a lame excuse like that, you certainly are living down to
expectations.
Pepe Papon
<beld...@verizon.net> wrote:
>LMFAO! You seriously think there are not millions of men in their
>60's who could kick your ass???
>***
>Yeah.
>In fact I'll wager you can't find 2 million men in their 60's I can't
>outlast in a fight.
This has to be proof that all you're doing is trolling. Not even you
could be dumb enough that you don't understand the concept of
hyperbole.
>Don't you ever get tired of just making shit up??? I do not lose
>money on Pokerstars. I have made a consistent living playing there
>for years. My primary play is cash games, not tournaments. Most of
>my tournament play is the VIP freerolls, where I do quite well. If
>you are looking at some Sharkscope statistics which show me losing
>money in tournaments with a cash buyin, you need to understand that is
>a very small part of my play.
>
>***
>I'm looking at OPR, which shows you're a huge tourney donk.
>If you're claiming you win at all the things we can't check, and lose big
>only where we can check, you'll pardon my disbelief.
Nice troll. No one, especially a guy who professes to have a mighty
136 IQ, could be enough of an imbecile to miss the fact that he's
played in fewer than 15 tournaments in every year tracked by the
database. For a guy who plays poker for hours a day, that's not even
enough to be considered peanuts.
>Here, look for yourself.
>http://www.officialpokerrankings.com/pokerstars/ramashiva/poker/results/38B987A2AF954EDFB5C240BCCDF2E7B7.html?t=2
>
>-49% roi
>
>happy to do me in comparison
>
>http://www.officialpokerrankings.com/fulltiltpoker/The_Sorcerer/poker/results/7BF11A7A8F884483964A4C8896952326.html?t=2
>
>+66% roi
That's all? Next time you entertain the notion of insulting your
superiors, you might want to think abou the number 477. As in 477%
ROI:
I know, I know, that ranking doesn't tell the full story. I'm almost
ashamed to post my results at Full Tilt, which come to a mere 161%
ROI:
It's unfortunate that the database doesn't include Bodog and Absolute,
as I'm certain my numbers are much better at those sites.
>> > > And I wouldn't insult you in person....
>
>> > Of course you wouldn't. You are an anonymous internet coward.
>
>> > Hell no.
>I've told people in newsgroups my real names. Just not the whackjobs like
>you.
Which people have you told your real names (how many real names do you
have, anyway?)? How do you manage to post your real names to
newsgroups while making sure that no whackjobs are reading your posts?
I hope you take care to X-Noarchive your posts to negate the ability
of whackjobs to find you later on.
ramashiva
wrote:
> On Wed, 06 May 2009 09:05:56 GMT, "Beldin the Sorcerer"
>
> >LMFAO! Â You seriously think there are not millions of men in their
> >60's who could kick your ass???
> >***
> >Yeah.
> >In fact I'll wager you can't find 2 million men in their 60's I can't
> >outlast in a fight.
>
> This has to be proof that all you're doing is trolling. Â Not even you
> could be dumb enough that you don't understand the concept of
> hyperbole.
Not to mention he is demanding an outlandishly impossible standard of
proof. It would obviously be impossible for me to locate millions of
physically fit men in their 60's and convince them to fight Bell
Dingbat.
Bell Dingbat always demands an impossible standard of proof when he
knows he is wrong. One of his many delusions is that Mr. Popinjay and
I are the same person. I invited him to come to Las Vegas, and I
would try to get Paul to come at the same time and bring his notebook
computer. Paul and I would show him our drivers licenses identifying
us as Paul Gennaro and William Coleman. Paul would then make a post
on his computer which would show up as a Popinjay post on RGP. I
would then make a post on my computer which would show up as a
ramashiva post on RGP. Bell Dingbat's response was that this would
prove nothing.
When I was destroying him in our first Social Security debate, Bell
Dingbat asserted that real wages did not increase over an extended
period of time. If he was wrong about this, then he lost the whole
debate. I then produced the most recent forty years data available at
the time. These data showed that real wages after inflation had
increased at an average annual rate of 1% for the last forty years.
Bell Dingbat's response was that I was cherrypicking data. LMFAO!
There have been so many cases when I and others have shown him that he
is absolutely, unequivocably wrong, yet he stubbornly maintains he is
right, that the only possible conclusion is that he is so delusional
that he should be institutionalized.
> >Don't you ever get tired of just making shit up??? Â I do not lose
> >money on Pokerstars. Â I have made a consistent living playing there
> >for years. Â My primary play is cash games, not tournaments. Â Most of
> >my tournament play is the VIP freerolls, where I do quite well. Â If
> >you are looking at some Sharkscope statistics which show me losing
> >money in tournaments with a cash buyin, you need to understand that is
> >a very small part of my play.
>
> >***
> >I'm looking at OPR, which shows you're a huge tourney donk.
> >If you're claiming you win at all the things we can't check, and lose big
> >only where we can check, you'll pardon my disbelief.
>
> Nice troll.  No one, especially a guy who professes to have  a mighty
> 136 IQ, could be enough of an imbecile to miss the fact that he's
> played in fewer than 15 tournaments in every year tracked by the
> database. Â For a guy who plays poker for hours a day, that's not even
> enough to be considered peanuts.
Not to mention which, as I said in another response in this thread, I
ran Pokertracker and filtered my tournament results to include only
tournaments with cash buyins. The results were that my ROI for all
cash tournaments played since 2005 was +1.12%. Mediocre, but not a
total donk either. The database he is referencing is either wrong or
doesn't include all the tournaments I have played.
William Coleman (ramashiva)
Beldin the Sorcerer
On May 6, 11:44 pm, Pepe Papon <hitmeis...@mindspring.com.invalid>
wrote:
> On Wed, 06 May 2009 09:05:56 GMT, "Beldin the Sorcerer"
>
> <beldin...@verizon.net> wrote:
> >LMFAO! You seriously think there are not millions of men in their
> >60's who could kick your ass???
> >***
> >Yeah.
> >In fact I'll wager you can't find 2 million men in their 60's I can't
> >outlast in a fight.
>
> This has to be proof that all you're doing is trolling. Not even you
> could be dumb enough that you don't understand the concept of
> hyperbole.
Not to mention he is demanding an outlandishly impossible standard of
proof. It would obviously be impossible for me to locate millions of
physically fit men in their 60's and convince them to fight Bell
Dingbat.
***
Well then, STFD and STFU
***
Bell Dingbat always demands an impossible standard of proof when he
knows he is wrong.
***
No, I demand a simple standard when I know YOU'RE wrong.
Then you bullshit and run and hide.
***
One of his many delusions is that Mr. Popinjay and
I are the same person
***
Not a delusion, and surely not my view alone, idiot boy.
***
. I invited him to come to Las Vegas, and I
would try to get Paul to come at the same time and bring his notebook
computer. Paul and I would show him our drivers licenses identifying
us as Paul Gennaro and William Coleman. Paul would then make a post
on his computer which would show up as a Popinjay post on RGP. I
would then make a post on my computer which would show up as a
ramashiva post on RGP. Bell Dingbat's response was that this would
prove nothing.
***
Because, shithead, it would prove nothing.
I asked for a simple MRI polygraph, where you'd be asked if you posted as
Paul or not. Naturally, you refused.
***
When I was destroying him in our first Social Security debate, Bell
Dingbat asserted that real wages did not increase over an extended
period of time. If he was wrong about this, then he lost the whole
debate. I then produced the most recent forty years data available at
the time. These data showed that real wages after inflation had
increased at an average annual rate of 1% for the last forty years.
Bell Dingbat's response was that I was cherrypicking data. LMFAO!
***
This is Willie the shithead, lying his ass off.
Government numbers proved my point exactly, with a slight statistical
abberation in a 4 year period, which Willie the shithead tried to make out
to be statistically significant.
He had his face used for a mop in that debate, but he's too delusional to
cop to being beaten senseless, which is why when the topic comes up, he
lies, then refuses to discuss it any more.
Willie is a fucked up moron.
We all know this.
***
There have been so many cases when I and others have shown him that he
is absolutely, unequivocably wrong, yet he stubbornly maintains he is
right, that the only possible conclusion is that he is so delusional
that he should be institutionalized.
***
See, willie's problem is he's too fucking ignorant to understand the
numbers.
He knows the Government numbers are ALWAYS about an order of magnitude too
conservative. SSI was "Never going to cost anyone more than $40 a year"
Yet he continues to ignore all the evidence that the actuarial tables are
FAR too conservative and the generally accepted fact is that the population
of the retired gets to 50% of the working class within the next few decades.
His stupidity and ignorance are deplorable.
***
> >Don't you ever get tired of just making shit up??? I do not lose
> >money on Pokerstars. I have made a consistent living playing there
> >for years. My primary play is cash games, not tournaments. Most of
> >my tournament play is the VIP freerolls, where I do quite well. If
> >you are looking at some Sharkscope statistics which show me losing
> >money in tournaments with a cash buyin, you need to understand that is
> >a very small part of my play.
>
> >***
> >I'm looking at OPR, which shows you're a huge tourney donk.
> >If you're claiming you win at all the things we can't check, and lose big
> >only where we can check, you'll pardon my disbelief.
>
> Nice troll. No one, especially a guy who professes to have a mighty
> 136 IQ, could be enough of an imbecile to miss the fact that he's
> played in fewer than 15 tournaments in every year tracked by the
> database. For a guy who plays poker for hours a day, that's not even
> enough to be considered peanuts.
***
For a guy who claims it.
And claims to be a wonderful, profitable tournament player.
And yet has no evidence of it.
Again, retard, pardon my disbelief.
***
Not to mention which, as I said in another response in this thread, I
ran Pokertracker and filtered my tournament results to include only
tournaments with cash buyins. The results were that my ROI for all
cash tournaments played since 2005 was +1.12%. Mediocre, but not a
total donk either. The database he is referencing is either wrong or
doesn't include all the tournaments I have played.
***
Or, far more likely, you fucked up setting up your database.
Beldin the Sorcerer
"Pepe Papon" <hitme...@mindspring.com.invalid> wrote in message
> On Wed, 06 May 2009 09:05:56 GMT, "Beldin the Sorcerer"
> <beld...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>LMFAO! You seriously think there are not millions of men in their
>>60's who could kick your ass???
>>***
>>Yeah.
>>In fact I'll wager you can't find 2 million men in their 60's I can't
>>outlast in a fight.
>
> This has to be proof that all you're doing is trolling. Not even you
> could be dumb enough that you don't understand the concept of
> hyperbole.
Pepe, try and keep up with me and Willie Spar-sessions.
I told him he was too stupid to wipe his own ass.
He denied it, offering to bet he could.
All I did was return the favor to a claim he made that isn't true either.
>
>>I've told people in newsgroups my real names. Just not the whackjobs like
>>you.
>
> Which people have you told your real names (how many real names do you
> have, anyway?)?
I have three
A first, a middle, and a last.
How do you manage to post your real names to
> newsgroups while making sure that no whackjobs are reading your posts?
I don't post using it any more.
Fortunately, Google stopped holding on to really old (back when it was
Dejanews) posts, so it doesn't matter.
I do respond to some e-mails, though, and those go out with my real name on
them.
Beldin the Sorcerer
"Pepe Papon" <hitme...@mindspring.com.invalid> wrote in message
> On Wed, 06 May 2009 08:34:31 GMT, "Beldin the Sorcerer"
> <beld...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Pepe Papon" <hitme...@mindspring.com.invalid> wrote in message
>>news:keg205hv8ctn0q0k4...@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 5 May 2009 22:07:10 -0700 (PDT), ramashiva
>>> <rama...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>It is rather inappropriate for you to insult my intelligence, since
>>>>you declined to wager on the outcome of a comparative IQ test, on the
>>>>grounds that I would somehow rig the test in my favor. Please explain
>>>>how you rig an IQ test.
>>>
>>> What makes this extra hilarious is that, in a previous thread, Beldin
>>> vehemently insisted the only reason for turning down a comparative IQ
>>> challenge was fear of losing. Isn't that right, Beldin? There's
>>> no other possible reason, according to you.
>>
>>No, idiot boy, when there's no financial incentive to cheat, there's no
>>reason.
>
> Nice backpedal, idiot boy.
How is that backpedaling?
Seriously. you drunk?
>
>>I got no objection to testing.
>>It's the incentive he has to cheat I want removed
>
> With a lame excuse like that, you certainly are living down to
> expectations.
Seth, again, are you drunk, or simply retarded?
Shithead wanted to wager money I'm not sure he has, and that I can't afford.
I have every suspicion he'd cheat.
He's an internet kook.
Beldin the Sorcerer
"Pepe Papon" <hitme...@mindspring.com.invalid> wrote in message
> On Wed, 06 May 2009 08:36:16 GMT, "Beldin the Sorcerer"
> <beld...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>> I look forward to your answer, although it won't change the fact that
>>> you know nothing about country music.
>>Jesus, shithead, I was forced to listen to that crap 4 hours a day for a
>>month.
>>Damn near made me sick.
>
> Fascinating. You listened for four hours a day and you still know
> nothing about it. Or are you going to assert that you know more than
> an industry professional? Go ahead, it wouldn't be the first time
> you've made such a ridiculous claim.
Seth, are you REALLY drunk posting.
I said the music sucks.
I also think hip-hop sucks.
"Industry professionals" of course differ with those views.
Mostly, they think whatever they're trying to sell is wonderful.
>
>>>>Shania Twain is a real hottie, but her pop versions of videos sold
>>>>really
>>>>well, and the all country versions ended up in the dollar store (my
>>>>sweetie
>>>>picked it up as a gag gift)
>>>
>>> Let me guess - you're thinking that this somehow supports your point.
>>Of course it does.
>>People don't like country much.
>
> Many people don't like it, but many people do.
Given a choice of virtually the same product, they voted with their wallets
overwhelmingly against country.
>
>>It's a much smaller market.
>
> Which proves nothing other than that it's a much smaller market. Not
> only doesn't it prove the point you were trying to make, it's a very
> big stretch to even imagine it as evidence.
Seth, your inability to think is a real hinderance to discussion.
If people bought one color of product, and didn't buy an item identical,
save a different color, would you accept that shows a bias against the
second color?
If not, then you're too retarded to discuss anything with.
If so, then explain how you fail to understand the ST example above.
Beldin the Sorcerer
"DaVoice (recgroups)" <davoi...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:el68d6x...@recgroups.com...
> On May 6 2009 1:36 AM, Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:
>
>
>> People don't like country much. It's a much smaller market.
>
>
> You just made the most RIDICULOUS STATEMENT IN HISTORY. Have you ever
> heard of "Billboard" or "Radio and Records". They chart airplay, album
> sales, singles sales. Try going to one of their sites before you make a
> statement like that. There are MORE Country Radio stations in the U.S.
> than ANY OTHER FORMAT.
There are loads of formats.
But when given a choice of two versions of something, country and not, they
invariably choose the 'not'.
Big article recently about how "non country' modern country is.
>
Beldin the Sorcerer
***
300?
How big is your gut?
That's WAY in the obese catagory.
Beldin the Sorcerer
Not at all.
***
100% yes.
***
> I call you ramsitintheass.
> There's nothing gay in that statement.
> You refer to it as gay anyway because, well, you're a shithead.
> You then use it's repetition as a prop for your claim I call you gay
> repeatedly.
Why are you lying??? I am referring to many other insults which
unambiguously suggested that I was a faggot.
***
Willie, I have never once suggested you have ever had sex with a man, or
wanted to.
Your own anti-gay [rejudic
> I don't think your gay, Willie.
> I think you're STUPID, but you demonstrate that often.
Then why won't you bet on the outcome of a comparative IQ test?
Because I might cheat? LMFAO! I wouldn't need to cheat. I would
crush you by many standard deviations, and you know it.
> > Just how retarded are you?
> It is rather inappropriate for you to insult my intelligence, since
> you declined to wager on the outcome of a comparative IQ test, on the
> grounds that I would somehow rig the test in my favor. Please explain
> how you rig an IQ test.
> You hire someone to prepare it, or you bribe the evaluation of it.
Oh please. You are assuming I would have complete control over what
test we took. You are just copping out because you know you would
lose badly.
***
No, I am stating I won't risk 10k on something you can rig.
***
> > > > I don't resort to physical violence.
> > > I do.
> > > Well, sure, you TRY.
> > You might want to talk to some of the people I have put in the
> > hospital with broken bones and concussions. You really have no idea
> > who or what I am. As usual, you confuse your delusional opinions with
> > objective reality.
> > Shithead, you're a guy in your 60's. According to you.
> > As such, right now you're not a huge threat.
>
> LMFAO! You seriously think there are not millions of men in their
> 60's who could kick your ass???
> Yeah.
> In fact I'll wager you can't find 2 million men in their 60's I can't
> outlast in a fight.
Yeah, I'm sure that's feasible.
***
You mean that was a figure of speech?
Wow!
Kinda like you being too stupid to wipe your own ass.
***
> We lean, buff, agile types can run circles around you old farts.
Running circles around me won't win the fight.
***
Asshole, you got 300 pounds to haul around.
You'll be winded and weary long before you get close to me.
***
I get my hands on you,
or I land one punch, and the fight is over.
***
That's the point, idiot boy.
You won't.
***
I have had considerable
experience fighting young athletic types with martial arts experience,
but who were much smaller than me. It didn't end well for any of
them.
***
What deca
> > Sure, you could pull out a baseball bat or a gun or something. So could
> > most people.
> I would only do that with someone I thought could kick my ass. You
> are a pencil-necked runt who wouldn't last 30 seconds in a physical
> confrontation with me.
***
Willie, I don't WANT to assault you.
I'l dodge and let your fat drag you down till you collapse.
***
> Shit for brains, my neck isn't as big as Arnold's,
Mine's bigger. Dr. Sheldon Deal, who has muscle tested both Arnold
and me, says I am stronger than Arnold.
***
Just HOW delusional are you?
***
> but I don't have a gut, and I'm in good shape.
Big fucking deal. That won't help you at all against a man who weighs
twice what you do, is much stronger, and knows how to fight.
***
You think your fat gut is an ASSET?
Shit, you are TOTALLY retarded.
***
If you seriously think you can kick my ass, or even last for any
length of time against me, I invite you to pay me a visit anytime.
***
Now SEE what an idiot you are?
Where did I claim I could kick your ass?
***
Of course, you won't do that. You are just an anonymous coward
indulging in trashtalking he knows he will never have to back up.
***
I don't want you keeling over and dying under your own fat.
***
> I don't sit on my ass all day.
> > > Old fart like you might havea corinary.
> > Unlikely, since my blood pressure is 110/70 and my pulse is 60.
> > You sure your eyes can read the numbers ok?
> Yup. You simply do not understand what completing two forty-day fasts
> does to the human body.
> Generally, it kills it.
No it doesn't. I have come out of each fast much stronger and
measurably biologically younger. You know nothing about fasting, so
you really should just sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up.
***
Fasting : not eating.
The body does quite poorly with no caloric intake for 40 days.
***
> But you're delusional,
LMFAO! Excuse me, you think Mr. Popinjay and I are the same person.
Now that's delusional.
***
Me and many other people.
That's more observational.
***
> so most people assume that never really happened.
Why do you claim to speak for most people? Of course the fasts
happened. Once again, you are making false assertions about matters
you know nothing about, while I have first-hand knowledge and know I
completed these fasts.
***
Show medical records verifying that.
***
> My veins, arteries, and digestive system are
> completely cleaned out. I have the strength, endurance, and
> cardiovascular system of a world class athlete. That is FACT,
> numbnuts.
> your mind is completely emptied out.
True. That is the meditative state of complete enlightenment, which,
as a perfected Kundalini Yoga Master, I have achieved.
***
That's the state of complete moron you have achieved.
***
> Entropy hasn't been reversed yet....
False. A forty-day fast leaves the body stronger and biologically
younger, as measured by objective biological markers. I am a master
faster, and you know nothing of the subject.
***
You are a master baiter
***
> > You babbled about monetizing your time on stars playing tournaments, or
> > something, yet you lose money there.
> Don't you ever get tired of just making shit up??? I do not lose
> money on Pokerstars. I have made a consistent living playing there
> for years. My primary play is cash games, not tournaments. Most of
> my tournament play is the VIP freerolls, where I do quite well. If
> you are looking at some Sharkscope statistics which show me losing
> money in tournaments with a cash buyin, you need to understand that is
> a very small part of my play.
> I'm looking at OPR, which shows you're a huge tourney donk.
> If you're claiming you win at all the things we can't check, and lose big
> only where we can check, you'll pardon my disbelief.
I do not give a fuck what you believe. Again, you are forming
opinions about matters of which you have absolutely no knowledge,
whereas I have first hand knowledge of how much I win at Pokerstars.
***
I am forming an opinion based on verifiable evidence.
***
> Here, look for
> yourself.http://www.officialpokerrankings.com/pokerstars/ramashiva/poker/resul...
Well, that information is incorrect. I just used Pokertracker to
filter my tournament results to exclude freerolls, and only include
tournaments with a cash buyin. The results --
43 tournaments with a total buyin of $501.85. Total win -- $507.47.
ROI -- +1.12%. Not impressive, but certainly not the total donk you
claim I am.
***
So you fucked up your filter.
they show 57 tournaments.
***
These are all the cash tournaments I have played on Pokerstars, going
back to 2005, with the possible exception of a few I played recently,
because I have been having problems importing tournament summaries,
and have not been able to import my last 36 tournaments. Maybe three
of these were small cash tournaments, and my recollection is that I
broke about even on those.
***
OPR's recollection is that you're a net tournament loser.
***
Once again, I have first hand knowledge, you have information from a
website which obviously doesn't include all the cash tournaments I
have played at Pokerstars since 2005.
***
No, just since 2006.
Except they have MORE than you claim you played.
***
> -49% roi
> happy to do me in comparison
>
> http://www.officialpokerrankings.com/fulltiltpoker/The_Sorcerer/poker...
>
> +66% roi
It says a lot about you that you feel the need to boast about your
winnings playing $1 tournaments. Again, I never claimed to be a
strong tournament player. As I said, I make most of my money in cash
games.
***
1300 players, Willie.
You couldn't win against 1300 drunken retards
***
> > > > And I wouldn't insult you in person....
> > > Of course you wouldn't. You are an anonymous internet coward.
> > > Hell no.
> > Hell yes.
> > Willie, please.
>
> You ARE an anonymous internet coward. You hide behind an anonymous
> screen name, while hurling insults which you would never dare repeat
> face to face.
> Willy, you're mentally defective.
> I'd be happy to tell you that face to face,
No you wouldn't. You would never dare, and you know it. Once again,
the anonymous internet coward that you are, you are engaging in
trashtalking bravado which you know you will never have to back up.
***
Willie, I'd be happy to.
Just make sure your lawyer is on retainer, because you just publicly invited
me to do so, and claiming irrational provocation as justification for
assualt after doing that probably won't work.
> but you're also mentally unstable.
Nonsense.
***
rotflmao
***
> You've threatened people with violence.
So what?
***
It goes to your mental instability
***
> I've told people in newsgroups my real names. Just not the whackjobs like
> you.
Oh bullshit. You have a copout explanation for everything. You won't
bet on an IQ test because I might rig it. You won't publish your real
name on RGP because I am a whackjob. Let's see. On the one hand you
would be happy to tell me to my face that I am mentally defective. On
the other hand, you won't tell me your name because I am a whack job.
***
Sure
you might mail a bomb here and hurt my family
***
> > > Shit for brains, I'd look at your miserable face and be flooded by
> > > pity
> > > for your poor existence.
> > Of course you don't know what you would do. Most likely, as I said,
> > you would shit your pants, fall on your knees, and beg for mercy.
> > Wager on that?
>
> Such trash talking bravado is meaningless, since we both know that you
> would never, ever agree to meet me face to face.
> ***
> Wager on THAT?
Sure. I bet you $5 that you will never agree to meet me face to face
and actually do so.
***
Much larger amount, Willie
***
Pepe Papon
<beld...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> You just made the most RIDICULOUS STATEMENT IN HISTORY. Have you ever
>> heard of "Billboard" or "Radio and Records". They chart airplay, album
>> sales, singles sales. Try going to one of their sites before you make a
>> statement like that. There are MORE Country Radio stations in the U.S.
>> than ANY OTHER FORMAT.
>
>There are loads of formats.
>
>But when given a choice of two versions of something, country and not, they
>invariably choose the 'not'.
Who, exactly, is "they"?
>Big article recently about how "non country' modern country is.
After reading that article, perhaps your knowledge of country music
has edged above the zero mark.
Pepe Papon
<beld...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>"Pepe Papon" <hitme...@mindspring.com.invalid> wrote in message
>news:6pt405hko6ep4ieb2...@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 06 May 2009 08:36:16 GMT, "Beldin the Sorcerer"
>> <beld...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>>> I look forward to your answer, although it won't change the fact that
>>>> you know nothing about country music.
>>>Jesus, shithead, I was forced to listen to that crap 4 hours a day for a
>>>month.
>>>Damn near made me sick.
>>
>> Fascinating. You listened for four hours a day and you still know
>> nothing about it. Or are you going to assert that you know more than
>> an industry professional? Go ahead, it wouldn't be the first time
>> you've made such a ridiculous claim.
>
>Seth, are you REALLY drunk posting.
No, you're just too stupid to follow a straight-ahead train of
thought.
>I said the music sucks.
>I also think hip-hop sucks.
>"Industry professionals" of course differ with those views.
>Mostly, they think whatever they're trying to sell is wonderful.
No, you said that country music is depressing.
>>
>>>>>Shania Twain is a real hottie, but her pop versions of videos sold
>>>>>really
>>>>>well, and the all country versions ended up in the dollar store (my
>>>>>sweetie
>>>>>picked it up as a gag gift)
>>>>
>>>> Let me guess - you're thinking that this somehow supports your point.
>>>Of course it does.
>>>People don't like country much.
>>
>> Many people don't like it, but many people do.
>Given a choice of virtually the same product, they voted with their wallets
>overwhelmingly against country.
Who TF is "they", you idiot?
>
>>
>>>It's a much smaller market.
>>
>> Which proves nothing other than that it's a much smaller market. Not
>> only doesn't it prove the point you were trying to make, it's a very
>> big stretch to even imagine it as evidence.
>Seth, your inability to think is a real hinderance to discussion.
No, your inability to think outside your tiny little box is the
problem here.
>If people bought one color of product, and didn't buy an item identical,
>save a different color, would you accept that shows a bias against the
>second color?
All people? Some people? How many? Which ones? Your question is
meaningless until you clarify what, exactly, you're talking about.
>If not, then you're too retarded to discuss anything with.
It's hardly surprising that the true retard, namely you, would
consider things beyond his understanding to be stupid.
>If so, then explain how you fail to understand the ST example above.
Already done, schmucko.
Pepe Papon
<beld...@verizon.net> wrote:
>Seth, again, are you drunk, or simply retarded?
Do you honestly think it makes you look smart to try and put down the
intelligence of people who are as smart or smarter than you?
>Shithead wanted to wager money I'm not sure he has, and that I can't afford.
>I have every suspicion he'd cheat.
>He's an internet kook.
Which differs from you how, exactly?
I don't know how big he is, how much he weighs, how well he fights, or
what his actual IQ score is, but I do know that it's pretty hard to
find logical flaws in his posts, as opposed to yours, where sloppy
logic is the rule rather than the exception.
Pepe Papon
<beld...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>"Pepe Papon" <hitme...@mindspring.com.invalid> wrote in message
>news:0dv4051f50tq9s907...@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 06 May 2009 09:05:56 GMT, "Beldin the Sorcerer"
>> <beld...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>>LMFAO! You seriously think there are not millions of men in their
>>>60's who could kick your ass???
>>>***
>>>Yeah.
>>>In fact I'll wager you can't find 2 million men in their 60's I can't
>>>outlast in a fight.
>>
>> This has to be proof that all you're doing is trolling. Not even you
>> could be dumb enough that you don't understand the concept of
>> hyperbole.
>
>Pepe, try and keep up with me and Willie Spar-sessions.
>I told him he was too stupid to wipe his own ass.
>He denied it, offering to bet he could.
>All I did was return the favor to a claim he made that isn't true either.
Cool. You've nearly convinced me that you're not a troll. Which
means that you're plain stupid.
>>
>>>I've told people in newsgroups my real names. Just not the whackjobs like
>>>you.
>>
>> Which people have you told your real names (how many real names do you
>> have, anyway?)?
>
>I have three
>A first, a middle, and a last.
The rest of the world uses the phrase "real name" in the singular even
when the name is actually a combination of first, middle, and last
names. For example, my real name is Seth Jackson. In English, we
don't say, "My real names are Seth Jackson" or "My real names are Seth
and Jackson".
> How do you manage to post your real names to
>> newsgroups while making sure that no whackjobs are reading your posts?
>
>I don't post using it any more.
So, you don't use your "real names" anymore. But when you did, you
had no way of knowing who was reading your posts. You had no way of
knowing whether or not you were giving your "names" to whackjobs.
You've been caught, once again, talking out of your ass.
>I do respond to some e-mails, though, and those go out with my real name on
>them.
How big of you.
Pepe Papon
<rama...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Bell Dingbat always demands an impossible standard of proof when he
>knows he is wrong. One of his many delusions is that Mr. Popinjay and
>I are the same person. I invited him to come to Las Vegas, and I
>would try to get Paul to come at the same time and bring his notebook
>computer. Paul and I would show him our drivers licenses identifying
>us as Paul Gennaro and William Coleman. Paul would then make a post
>on his computer which would show up as a Popinjay post on RGP. I
>would then make a post on my computer which would show up as a
>ramashiva post on RGP. Bell Dingbat's response was that this would
>prove nothing.
Yes, I remember that thread. Beldumb still somehow thinks he won that
one.
>There have been so many cases when I and others have shown him that he
>is absolutely, unequivocably wrong, yet he stubbornly maintains he is
>right, that the only possible conclusion is that he is so delusional
>that he should be institutionalized.
Gotta disagree with you here. There is an alternative explanation,
which is that he is a highly effective troll. Seriously, can someone
with an alleged IQ of 136 really be that much of a retard?
Believe me, I've been in a number of these types of arguments with
Beldumb. He's so insecure about his intelligence that he finds it
necessary to belittle the intelligence of everyone who disagrees with
him.
The funniest thing is that, when I informed him that my IQ score
happens to be higher than his alleged 136, he called me a liar and
challenged me to take an IQ test with him. When I declined, he
unequivocally stated that the only possible reason for refusing such a
challenge is fear that I'm going to lose.
Then, a couple of months later, you present him with a nearly
identical challenge, and he turns it down, the only difference being
that he stands to lose significant cash on the deal. But according
to Beldumb, fear of losing has nothing to do with it. He just thinks
that you have the power to somehow rig an IQ test. You can't make
this shit up!
Beldin the Sorcerer
"Pepe Papon" <hitme...@mindspring.com.invalid> wrote in message
> On Thu, 07 May 2009 14:32:52 GMT, "Beldin the Sorcerer"
> <beld...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>> You just made the most RIDICULOUS STATEMENT IN HISTORY. Have you ever
>>> heard of "Billboard" or "Radio and Records". They chart airplay, album
>>> sales, singles sales. Try going to one of their sites before you make a
>>> statement like that. There are MORE Country Radio stations in the U.S.
>>> than ANY OTHER FORMAT.
>>
>>There are loads of formats.
>>
>>But when given a choice of two versions of something, country and not,
>>they
>>invariably choose the 'not'.
>
> Who, exactly, is "they"?
>
>>Big article recently about how "non country' modern country is.
>
> After reading that article, perhaps your knowledge of country music
> has edged above the zero mark.
It's an art form. Not a particularly pleasant one.
Beldin the Sorcerer
"Pepe Papon" <hitme...@mindspring.com.invalid> wrote in message
> On Thu, 07 May 2009 13:34:00 GMT, "Beldin the Sorcerer"
> <beld...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Pepe Papon" <hitme...@mindspring.com.invalid> wrote in message
>>news:6pt405hko6ep4ieb2...@4ax.com...
>>> On Wed, 06 May 2009 08:36:16 GMT, "Beldin the Sorcerer"
>>> <beld...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I look forward to your answer, although it won't change the fact that
>>>>> you know nothing about country music.
>>>>Jesus, shithead, I was forced to listen to that crap 4 hours a day for a
>>>>month.
>>>>Damn near made me sick.
>>>
>>> Fascinating. You listened for four hours a day and you still know
>>> nothing about it. Or are you going to assert that you know more than
>>> an industry professional? Go ahead, it wouldn't be the first time
>>> you've made such a ridiculous claim.
>>
>>Seth, are you REALLY drunk posting.
>
> No, you're just too stupid to follow a straight-ahead train of
> thought.
>
>>I said the music sucks.
>>I also think hip-hop sucks.
>>"Industry professionals" of course differ with those views.
>>Mostly, they think whatever they're trying to sell is wonderful.
>
> No, you said that country music is depressing.
>
>>>
>>>>>>Shania Twain is a real hottie, but her pop versions of videos sold
>>>>>>really
>>>>>>well, and the all country versions ended up in the dollar store (my
>>>>>>sweetie
>>>>>>picked it up as a gag gift)
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me guess - you're thinking that this somehow supports your point.
>>>>Of course it does.
>>>>People don't like country much.
>>>
>>> Many people don't like it, but many people do.
>>Given a choice of virtually the same product, they voted with their
>>wallets
>>overwhelmingly against country.
>
> Who TF is "they", you idiot?
The consumer, you fucking moron.
>
>>
>>>
>>>>It's a much smaller market.
>>>
>>> Which proves nothing other than that it's a much smaller market. Not
>>> only doesn't it prove the point you were trying to make, it's a very
>>> big stretch to even imagine it as evidence.
>>Seth, your inability to think is a real hinderance to discussion.
>
> No, your inability to think outside your tiny little box is the
> problem here.
seth, I've never been trapped into any kind of thinking.
I look at issues from multiple angles.
>
>>If people bought one color of product, and didn't buy an item identical,
>>save a different color, would you accept that shows a bias against the
>>second color?
>
> All people? Some people? How many? Which ones? Your question is
> meaningless until you clarify what, exactly, you're talking about.
The overwhelming MAJORITY of people.
Christ, you ARE a shithead.
>
>>If not, then you're too retarded to discuss anything with.
>
> It's hardly surprising that the true retard, namely you, would
> consider things beyond his understanding to be stupid.
Seth, you MUST be drunk and retarded.
Also, you're probably a country junkie, which suggests other brain damage.
>
>>If so, then explain how you fail to understand the ST example above.
>
> Already done, schmucko.
Yes, you're a shithead.
Shania Twain DVD : Pop versions .... sold out
Shania Twain DVD : Country version (same songs otherwise) ... remaindered to
the dollar store.
MOST people with even double digit IQ's can see the connection.
Beldin the Sorcerer
"Pepe Papon" <hitme...@mindspring.com.invalid> wrote in message
> On Thu, 07 May 2009 13:28:30 GMT, "Beldin the Sorcerer"
> <beld...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>Seth, again, are you drunk, or simply retarded?
>
> Do you honestly think it makes you look smart to try and put down the
> intelligence of people who are as smart or smarter than you?
>
>>Shithead wanted to wager money I'm not sure he has, and that I can't
>>afford.
>>I have every suspicion he'd cheat.
>>He's an internet kook.
>
> Which differs from you how, exactly?
He's a loon, who has claimed to be a god, has special powers, and has fasted
for over a month twice.
That you find him 'logical' shows how fucked in the head you are.
>
> I don't know how big he is, how much he weighs, how well he fights, or
> what his actual IQ score is, but I do know that it's pretty hard to
> find logical flaws in his posts, as opposed to yours, where sloppy
> logic is the rule rather than the exception.
Seth, you ARE a shit for brains.
His entire reasoning center is missing from his brain.
Beldin the Sorcerer
"Pepe Papon" <hitme...@mindspring.com.invalid> wrote in message
> On Thu, 7 May 2009 03:00:15 -0700 (PDT), ramashiva
> <rama...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>Bell Dingbat always demands an impossible standard of proof when he
>>knows he is wrong. One of his many delusions is that Mr. Popinjay and
>>I are the same person. I invited him to come to Las Vegas, and I
>>would try to get Paul to come at the same time and bring his notebook
>>computer. Paul and I would show him our drivers licenses identifying
>>us as Paul Gennaro and William Coleman. Paul would then make a post
>>on his computer which would show up as a Popinjay post on RGP. I
>>would then make a post on my computer which would show up as a
>>ramashiva post on RGP. Bell Dingbat's response was that this would
>>prove nothing.
>
> Yes, I remember that thread. Beldumb still somehow thinks he won that
> one.
>
I asked for a simple test that WOULD prove something.
Shithead refused.
You, being a shithead too, fail to understand that.
>>There have been so many cases when I and others have shown him that he
>>is absolutely, unequivocably wrong, yet he stubbornly maintains he is
>>right, that the only possible conclusion is that he is so delusional
>>that he should be institutionalized.
>
> Gotta disagree with you here. There is an alternative explanation,
> which is that he is a highly effective troll. Seriously, can someone
> with an alleged IQ of 136 really be that much of a retard?
>
> Believe me, I've been in a number of these types of arguments with
> Beldumb. He's so insecure about his intelligence that he finds it
> necessary to belittle the intelligence of everyone who disagrees with
> him.
No, I point out when people are being retards.
There's no insecurity at all. You always make these moronic assumptions,
seth.
Why is that?
>
> The funniest thing is that, when I informed him that my IQ score
> happens to be higher than his alleged 136, he called me a liar and
> challenged me to take an IQ test with him. When I declined, he
> unequivocally stated that the only possible reason for refusing such a
> challenge is fear that I'm going to lose.
You've made any number of claims with no evidence at all.
When asked to prove anything, it's always a situation where it can't be
done, or you refuse to do it.
>
> Then, a couple of months later, you present him with a nearly
> identical challenge, and he turns it down, the only difference being
> that he stands to lose significant cash on the deal. But according
> to Beldumb, fear of losing has nothing to do with it. He just thinks
> that you have the power to somehow rig an IQ test. You can't make
> this shit up!
Shit for brains, anyone can rig anything.
Only a true shithead would think proposing a 5 figure bet on an IQ test was
somehow the same as proposing two people take a third party exam.
Beldin the Sorcerer
"Pepe Papon" <hitme...@mindspring.com.invalid> wrote in message
> On Thu, 07 May 2009 13:18:48 GMT, "Beldin the Sorcerer"
> <beld...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Pepe Papon" <hitme...@mindspring.com.invalid> wrote in message
>>news:0dv4051f50tq9s907...@4ax.com...
>>> On Wed, 06 May 2009 09:05:56 GMT, "Beldin the Sorcerer"
>>> <beld...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>LMFAO! You seriously think there are not millions of men in their
>>>>60's who could kick your ass???
>>>>***
>>>>Yeah.
>>>>In fact I'll wager you can't find 2 million men in their 60's I can't
>>>>outlast in a fight.
>>>
>>> This has to be proof that all you're doing is trolling. Not even you
>>> could be dumb enough that you don't understand the concept of
>>> hyperbole.
>>
>>Pepe, try and keep up with me and Willie Spar-sessions.
>>I told him he was too stupid to wipe his own ass.
>>He denied it, offering to bet he could.
>>All I did was return the favor to a claim he made that isn't true either.
>
> Cool. You've nearly convinced me that you're not a troll. Which
> means that you're plain stupid.
>
>>>
>>>>I've told people in newsgroups my real names. Just not the whackjobs
>>>>like
>>>>you.
>>>
>>> Which people have you told your real names (how many real names do you
>>> have, anyway?)?
>>
>>I have three
>>A first, a middle, and a last.
>
> The rest of the world uses the phrase "real name" in the singular even
> when the name is actually a combination of first, middle, and last
> names. For example, my real name is Seth Jackson. In English, we
> don't say, "My real names are Seth Jackson" or "My real names are Seth
> and Jackson".
Yep, you're a shithead.
A lot of people give their first name on the internet. That's their real
name.
>
>> How do you manage to post your real names to
>>> newsgroups while making sure that no whackjobs are reading your posts?
>>
>>I don't post using it any more.
>
> So, you don't use your "real names" anymore. But when you did, you
> had no way of knowing who was reading your posts. You had no way of
> knowing whether or not you were giving your "names" to whackjobs.
> You've been caught, once again, talking out of your ass.
No, shithead.
There was less fear of whackjobs back then
Christ, you ARE a fucking moron, Seth.
People used to give out apples for trick or treat, decades ago. They don't
any more... because the crazies have shown themselves.
>
>
>>I do respond to some e-mails, though, and those go out with my real name
>>on
>>them.
>
> How big of you.
Seth, you have family?
You ever consider some whacko might show up and do something?
It's happened.
ramashiva
wrote:
> Seth, you have family?
> You ever consider some whacko might show up and do something?
> It's happened.
Paranoia strikes deep.
Into your life it will creep.
It starts when you're always afraid.
Step out of line, the man comes and takes you away.
Like I said, you are an anonymous internet coward. I cannot imagine
such depths of cowardice that you won't reveal your true identity for
fear that I might travel to Massachusetts just to fuck with you.
To paraphrase Shakespeare --
Anonymous internet cowards die a thousand deaths,
Heroes die but once.
William Coleman (ramashiva)
Beldin the Sorcerer
> Seth, you have family?
> You ever consider some whacko might show up and do something?
> It's happened.
Paranoia strikes deep.
Into your life it will creep.
It starts when you're always afraid.
Step out of line, the man comes and takes you away.
***
In your case, willie :
Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand
That ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
***
Like I said, you are an anonymous internet coward. I cannot imagine
such depths of cowardice that you won't reveal your true identity for
fear that I might travel to Massachusetts just to fuck with you.
***
Willie, you are indeed a whack job.
You are, of course, not the ONLY whack job.
***
To paraphrase Shakespeare --
Anonymous internet cowards die a thousand deaths,
Heroes die but once.
***
To paraphrase Patton :
Your task isn't to die for your principles
Your task is to have some retard die for HIS principles while getting what
you want.
I'm not afraid of you, Willie.
I do recognize you aren't fully stable.
Pepe Papon
<beld...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> No, you're just too stupid to follow a straight-ahead train of
>> thought.
>Nothing straight at all in your thought process.
Wrong again. It's not straight *to you* because you can't follow it.
>>>I said the music sucks.
>>>I also think hip-hop sucks.
>>>"Industry professionals" of course differ with those views.
>>>Mostly, they think whatever they're trying to sell is wonderful.
>>
>> No, you said that country music is depressing.
>I said it tends to be, and it does.
Which is merely another way of saying that you know nothing about it.
>
>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>Shania Twain is a real hottie, but her pop versions of videos sold
>>>>>>>really
>>>>>>>well, and the all country versions ended up in the dollar store (my
>>>>>>>sweetie
>>>>>>>picked it up as a gag gift)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let me guess - you're thinking that this somehow supports your point.
>>>>>Of course it does.
>>>>>People don't like country much.
>>>>
>>>> Many people don't like it, but many people do.
>>>Given a choice of virtually the same product, they voted with their
>>>wallets
>>>overwhelmingly against country.
>>
>> Who TF is "they", you idiot?
>The consumer, you fucking moron.
As if "the consumer" is a monolithic entity.
--
~ Seth Jackson
MySpace URL - http://www.myspace.com/sethjacksonsong
Songwriting and Music Business Info: http://www.sethjackson.net
Pepe Papon
<beld...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>"Pepe Papon" <hitme...@mindspring.com.invalid> wrote in message
>news:lu77051ccqqbpd789...@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 07 May 2009 13:28:30 GMT, "Beldin the Sorcerer"
>> <beld...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Seth, again, are you drunk, or simply retarded?
>>
>> Do you honestly think it makes you look smart to try and put down the
>> intelligence of people who are as smart or smarter than you?
>>
>>>Shithead wanted to wager money I'm not sure he has, and that I can't
>>>afford.
>>>I have every suspicion he'd cheat.
>>>He's an internet kook.
>>
>> Which differs from you how, exactly?
>
>He's a loon, who has claimed to be a god, has special powers, and has fasted
>for over a month twice.
>
>That you find him 'logical' shows how fucked in the head you are.
>
>>
>> I don't know how big he is, how much he weighs, how well he fights, or
>> what his actual IQ score is, but I do know that it's pretty hard to
>> find logical flaws in his posts, as opposed to yours, where sloppy
>> logic is the rule rather than the exception.
>
>Seth, you ARE a shit for brains.
>His entire reasoning center is missing from his brain.
>
And yet, his IQ is vastly higher than yours. Go figure.
Pepe Papon
<beld...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>"Pepe Papon" <hitme...@mindspring.com.invalid> wrote in message
>news:0rg705dhogu6jm6ip...@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 7 May 2009 03:00:15 -0700 (PDT), ramashiva
>> <rama...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Bell Dingbat always demands an impossible standard of proof when he
>>>knows he is wrong. One of his many delusions is that Mr. Popinjay and
>>>I are the same person. I invited him to come to Las Vegas, and I
>>>would try to get Paul to come at the same time and bring his notebook
>>>computer. Paul and I would show him our drivers licenses identifying
>>>us as Paul Gennaro and William Coleman. Paul would then make a post
>>>on his computer which would show up as a Popinjay post on RGP. I
>>>would then make a post on my computer which would show up as a
>>>ramashiva post on RGP. Bell Dingbat's response was that this would
>>>prove nothing.
>>
>> Yes, I remember that thread. Beldumb still somehow thinks he won that
>> one.
>>
>That's because I did.
>I asked for a simple test that WOULD prove something.
>Shithead refused.
>You, being a shithead too, fail to understand that.
Since you're such a genius, why don't you explain how they could fudge
this test.
>> Believe me, I've been in a number of these types of arguments with
>> Beldumb. He's so insecure about his intelligence that he finds it
>> necessary to belittle the intelligence of everyone who disagrees with
>> him.
>No, I point out when people are being retards.
>There's no insecurity at all. You always make these moronic assumptions,
>seth.
>Why is that?
Because they're anything but moronic. It's obvious to everyone but
you. But it's clear by now that any attempt to explain it to you is
futile.
>>
>> The funniest thing is that, when I informed him that my IQ score
>> happens to be higher than his alleged 136, he called me a liar and
>> challenged me to take an IQ test with him. When I declined, he
>> unequivocally stated that the only possible reason for refusing such a
>> challenge is fear that I'm going to lose.
>
>You've made any number of claims with no evidence at all.
>When asked to prove anything, it's always a situation where it can't be
>done, or you refuse to do it.
And you foolishly believe that this somehow proves I'm lying. Even
when the obvious explanation is provided to you, you stubborn hold to
the ridiculous idea that only one explanation is possible.
>>
>> Then, a couple of months later, you present him with a nearly
>> identical challenge, and he turns it down, the only difference being
>> that he stands to lose significant cash on the deal. But according
>> to Beldumb, fear of losing has nothing to do with it. He just thinks
>> that you have the power to somehow rig an IQ test. You can't make
>> this shit up!
>Shit for brains, anyone can rig anything.
>Only a true shithead would think proposing a 5 figure bet on an IQ test was
>somehow the same as proposing two people take a third party exam.
Are you somehow trying to suggest that "an IQ test" and "a third party
exam" are two different things? The only difference between the two
proposals is that one included a bet and the other didn't. Your
attempts at weaseling out the the bet doesn't change that reality one
bit.
But you'll undoubtedly fall back on your 5th grader insults to allow
you to continue weaseling. It's what you do.
Pepe Papon
<beld...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> The rest of the world uses the phrase "real name" in the singular even
>> when the name is actually a combination of first, middle, and last
>> names. For example, my real name is Seth Jackson. In English, we
>> don't say, "My real names are Seth Jackson" or "My real names are Seth
>> and Jackson".
>Yep, you're a shithead.
>
>A lot of people give their first name on the internet. That's their real
>name.
So, according to you, "Seth Jackson" is not my real name. This is
the kind of brilliance we've come to expect from Beldingbat.
>>
>>> How do you manage to post your real names to
>>>> newsgroups while making sure that no whackjobs are reading your posts?
>>>
>>>I don't post using it any more.
>>
>> So, you don't use your "real names" anymore. But when you did, you
>> had no way of knowing who was reading your posts. You had no way of
>> knowing whether or not you were giving your "names" to whackjobs.
>> You've been caught, once again, talking out of your ass.
>
>No, shithead.
>There was less fear of whackjobs back then
In other words, 10 years ago or so, you were too dumb to realize that
anybody with a computer and Internet access could read Usenet, and
that there were undoubtedly some crazies out there among the millions
already online at the time. You were once a retard, but now you've
smartened up and are highly intelligent.
>Christ, you ARE a fucking moron, Seth.
Since my IQ is higher than yours, this implies that your intelligence
is on a par with, oh, a serving of vegetable dumplings.
>People used to give out apples for trick or treat, decades ago. They don't
>any more... because the crazies have shown themselves.
But you didn't know they were out there on Usenet until they showed
themselves. Millions of people online, but only emotionally healthy,
stable individuals.
>>>I do respond to some e-mails, though, and those go out with my real name
>>>on
>>>them.
>>
>> How big of you.
>Seth, you have family?
Yes.
>You ever consider some whacko might show up and do something?
Of course, they could. My house could also get hit with a meteorite
at any moment. Am I going to worry about it?
>It's happened.
I'm sure it has. It's also happened that I've made friends and
business contacts on Usenet.
Beldin the Sorcerer
"Pepe Papon" <hitme...@mindspring.dot.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:t1gf05l5c2ihitci1...@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 11 May 2009 01:51:17 GMT, "Beldin the Sorcerer"
> <beld...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>> The rest of the world uses the phrase "real name" in the singular even
>>> when the name is actually a combination of first, middle, and last
>>> names. For example, my real name is Seth Jackson. In English, we
>>> don't say, "My real names are Seth Jackson" or "My real names are Seth
>>> and Jackson".
>>Yep, you're a shithead.
>>
>>A lot of people give their first name on the internet. That's their real
>>name.
>
> So, according to you, "Seth Jackson" is not my real name. This is
> the kind of brilliance we've come to expect from Beldingbat.
No, shit for brains.
If you gave your name as "Seth", you'd be giving your real name.
There are people who do that.
By using the plural, I'm making it clear I gave my complete name.
Now I realize you're an idiot. And I realize you'll never admit that it
gives more information, and saves keystrokes over "complete name" or "Full
name" So I fully expect you to keep banging away at a point you simply
didn't understand, and that's fine.
You are, after all, a goddamn hillbilly.
>
>>>
>>>> How do you manage to post your real names to
>>>>> newsgroups while making sure that no whackjobs are reading your posts?
>>>>
>>>>I don't post using it any more.
>>>
>>> So, you don't use your "real names" anymore. But when you did, you
>>> had no way of knowing who was reading your posts. You had no way of
>>> knowing whether or not you were giving your "names" to whackjobs.
>>> You've been caught, once again, talking out of your ass.
>>
>>No, shithead.
>>There was less fear of whackjobs back then
>
>
> In other words, 10 years ago or so, you were too dumb to realize that
> anybody with a computer and Internet access could read Usenet, and
> that there were undoubtedly some crazies out there among the millions
> already online at the time. You were once a retard, but now you've
> smartened up and are highly intelligent.
NO, shithead.
I went on to give a clear example.
10 years ago the whackjobs were less aware of the internet. The ratio of
user to whackjob has gone up somewhat, and the ability of whackjobs to
discover information has gone through the roof.
>
>>Christ, you ARE a fucking moron, Seth.
>
> Since my IQ is higher than yours, this implies that your intelligence
> is on a par with, oh, a serving of vegetable dumplings.
>
No, actually, I strongly suspect it isn't.
You actually eat vegetable dumplings?
More evidence of the hillbilly aspect of your life.
>>People used to give out apples for trick or treat, decades ago. They don't
>>any more... because the crazies have shown themselves.
>
> But you didn't know they were out there on Usenet until they showed
> themselves. Millions of people online, but only emotionally healthy,
> stable individuals.
Again, you're a shithead.
And quite possibly suffering from limited ability to remember.
The number of internet users in the mid 90's, and the percentage of
population who knew what usenet even WAS, was considerably smaller back
then.
Also, the tools available for them to find you were less powerful.
>
>>>>I do respond to some e-mails, though, and those go out with my real name
>>>>on
>>>>them.
>>>
>>> How big of you.
>>Seth, you have family?
>
> Yes.
>
>>You ever consider some whacko might show up and do something?
>
> Of course, they could. My house could also get hit with a meteorite
> at any moment. Am I going to worry about it?
There's nothing you can do to prevent that.
There are reasonable things you can do to prevent the former.
>
>>It's happened.
>
> I'm sure it has. It's also happened that I've made friends and
> business contacts on Usenet.
That's fine. And if you actually were a cautious, rational person, you'd get
to know them before giving them your real name.
Especially if you actually are a lowish level 'celeb' type.
Beldin the Sorcerer
"Pepe Papon" <hitme...@mindspring.dot.com.invalid> wrote in message
> On Mon, 11 May 2009 01:42:54 GMT, "Beldin the Sorcerer"
> <beld...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Pepe Papon" <hitme...@mindspring.com.invalid> wrote in message
>>news:0rg705dhogu6jm6ip...@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 7 May 2009 03:00:15 -0700 (PDT), ramashiva
>>> <rama...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Bell Dingbat always demands an impossible standard of proof when he
>>>>knows he is wrong. One of his many delusions is that Mr. Popinjay and
>>>>I are the same person. I invited him to come to Las Vegas, and I
>>>>would try to get Paul to come at the same time and bring his notebook
>>>>computer. Paul and I would show him our drivers licenses identifying
>>>>us as Paul Gennaro and William Coleman. Paul would then make a post
>>>>on his computer which would show up as a Popinjay post on RGP. I
>>>>would then make a post on my computer which would show up as a
>>>>ramashiva post on RGP. Bell Dingbat's response was that this would
>>>>prove nothing.
>>>
>>> Yes, I remember that thread. Beldumb still somehow thinks he won that
>>> one.
>>>
>>That's because I did.
>>I asked for a simple test that WOULD prove something.
>>Shithead refused.
>>You, being a shithead too, fail to understand that.
>
> Since you're such a genius, why don't you explain how they could fudge
> this test.
1) Get an advance copy
2) Bribe the evaluator
3) Fake the test entirely (write it himself)
$10,000 is surely enough to accomplish any of those.
Three simple ways. There are a lot more complex ones, that might require a
larger wager.
>
>
>>> Believe me, I've been in a number of these types of arguments with
>>> Beldumb. He's so insecure about his intelligence that he finds it
>>> necessary to belittle the intelligence of everyone who disagrees with
>>> him.
>>No, I point out when people are being retards.
>>There's no insecurity at all. You always make these moronic assumptions,
>>seth.
>>Why is that?
>
> Because they're anything but moronic. It's obvious to everyone but
> you. But it's clear by now that any attempt to explain it to you is
> futile.
Seth, they're completely moronic.
I know I'm smart. Been smart my entire life. I have the grades and scores to
back it up; it's a documented, measured fact.
I don't need a whackjob like Willie "no food for 40 days" Coleman
acknowledging it.
>
>>>
>>> The funniest thing is that, when I informed him that my IQ score
>>> happens to be higher than his alleged 136, he called me a liar and
>>> challenged me to take an IQ test with him. When I declined, he
>>> unequivocally stated that the only possible reason for refusing such a
>>> challenge is fear that I'm going to lose.
>>
>>You've made any number of claims with no evidence at all.
>>When asked to prove anything, it's always a situation where it can't be
>>done, or you refuse to do it.
>
> And you foolishly believe that this somehow proves I'm lying.
AGAIN with the shithead assumption.
It doesn't PROVE you're lying.
It increases the likelihood of it.
You're a poker player, for christ's sake. You claim to be a WINNING poker
player, and yet you fail to understand the basics of probability evaluation.
Even
> when the obvious explanation is provided to you, you stubborn hold to
> the ridiculous idea that only one explanation is possible.
Again, no, you fucking loon.
You go with the most likely explanation until given sufficient evidence that
it ISN'T.
I don't claim you aren't who you say you are, for instance. Unlike Travel, I
can accept there's enough evidence that you're the guy who wrote "Texas
Holdem"
When you claim to win a freeroll by "setting your mind to it" or win a large
field tournament once in five attempts, I'm highly skeptical.
Those kinds of tournaments are amazingly high variance, loaded with
unskilled players. I cannot begin to list the number of times I've been
raised all in on the turn holding the nuts, called, and been sucked out on
and eliminated.
Now it's certainly possible you fluked your way through the minefield early
on and stopped playing afterwards.
It's Much more likely that you'd simply be bullshitting. Why? Because the
former is an extremely low probability event.
>
>>>
>>> Then, a couple of months later, you present him with a nearly
>>> identical challenge, and he turns it down, the only difference being
>>> that he stands to lose significant cash on the deal. But according
>>> to Beldumb, fear of losing has nothing to do with it. He just thinks
>>> that you have the power to somehow rig an IQ test. You can't make
>>> this shit up!
>>Shit for brains, anyone can rig anything.
>>Only a true shithead would think proposing a 5 figure bet on an IQ test
>>was
>>somehow the same as proposing two people take a third party exam.
>
> Are you somehow trying to suggest that "an IQ test" and "a third party
> exam" are two different things? The only difference between the two
> proposals is that one included a bet and the other didn't. Your
> attempts at weaseling out the the bet doesn't change that reality one
> bit.
No, shithead.
Christ, you are an idiot.
Third party exam with no bet would be easy to do, and if some kind of scam
were suspected, easy to redo several times without an issue.
IQ test with a 5 figure bet would require a lot more to make 'secure' from
cheating, and probably be non-cost effective for the winner. NOT making this
effort makes scamming quite easy, and thus very much not cost effective for
the potential mark. Since idiot boy is the potential scammer....
I'm quite happy to take IQ tests againt the whackjob. If he wants to bribe
people, though, he can use his own money.
>
> But you'll undoubtedly fall back on your 5th grader insults to allow
> you to continue weaseling. It's what you do.
No, idiot boy.
I didn't use any of these insults in fifth grade.
Nor did I threaten to kick the shit out of people, a la Willie boy.
You ever consider getting a hair piece?
Beldin the Sorcerer
"Pepe Papon" <hitme...@mindspring.dot.com.invalid> wrote in message
> On Mon, 11 May 2009 01:34:43 GMT, "Beldin the Sorcerer"
> <beld...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Pepe Papon" <hitme...@mindspring.com.invalid> wrote in message
>>news:lu77051ccqqbpd789...@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 07 May 2009 13:28:30 GMT, "Beldin the Sorcerer"
>>> <beld...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Seth, again, are you drunk, or simply retarded?
>>>
>>> Do you honestly think it makes you look smart to try and put down the
>>> intelligence of people who are as smart or smarter than you?
>>>
>>>>Shithead wanted to wager money I'm not sure he has, and that I can't
>>>>afford.
>>>>I have every suspicion he'd cheat.
>>>>He's an internet kook.
>>>
>>> Which differs from you how, exactly?
>>
>>He's a loon, who has claimed to be a god, has special powers, and has
>>fasted
>>for over a month twice.
>>
>>That you find him 'logical' shows how fucked in the head you are.
>>
And no comment from Hillbilly central here.
Amazing.
>>>
>>> I don't know how big he is, how much he weighs, how well he fights, or
>>> what his actual IQ score is, but I do know that it's pretty hard to
>>> find logical flaws in his posts, as opposed to yours, where sloppy
>>> logic is the rule rather than the exception.
>>
>>Seth, you ARE a shit for brains.
>>His entire reasoning center is missing from his brain.
>>
>
> And yet, his IQ is vastly higher than yours. Go figure.
If you're shithead enough to take his claims of a 200+ IQ seriously, there's
really no hope for you.
Beldin the Sorcerer
"Pepe Papon" <hitme...@mindspring.dot.com.invalid> wrote in message
> On Mon, 11 May 2009 01:32:58 GMT, "Beldin the Sorcerer"
> <beld...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>> No, you're just too stupid to follow a straight-ahead train of
>>> thought.
>>Nothing straight at all in your thought process.
>
> Wrong again. It's not straight *to you* because you can't follow it.
>
>>>>I said the music sucks.
>>>>I also think hip-hop sucks.
>>>>"Industry professionals" of course differ with those views.
>>>>Mostly, they think whatever they're trying to sell is wonderful.
>>>
>>> No, you said that country music is depressing.
>>I said it tends to be, and it does.
>
> Which is merely another way of saying that you know nothing about it.
No, it isn't.
>
>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Shania Twain is a real hottie, but her pop versions of videos sold
>>>>>>>>really
>>>>>>>>well, and the all country versions ended up in the dollar store (my
>>>>>>>>sweetie
>>>>>>>>picked it up as a gag gift)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let me guess - you're thinking that this somehow supports your
>>>>>>> point.
>>>>>>Of course it does.
>>>>>>People don't like country much.
>>>>>
>>>>> Many people don't like it, but many people do.
>>>>Given a choice of virtually the same product, they voted with their
>>>>wallets
>>>>overwhelmingly against country.
>>>
>>> Who TF is "they", you idiot?
>>The consumer, you fucking moron.
>
> As if "the consumer" is a monolithic entity.
No, it's a synthesis of all consumer buying trends.
"The consumer" represents the average consumer, the typical spending
pattern, and shows preferences.
But even YOU know this. But it makes a point you don't want to accept, so
you'll bullshit around it.
da pickle
> Seth, you have family?
> You ever consider some whacko might show up and do something?
> It's happened.
This is really close to stepping over the line, Beldin.
Beldin the Sorcerer
"da pickle" <jcpickels@(nospam)hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OKWdndG7BbR...@giganews.com...
It's nowhere near the line. Pointing out that there are crazies out there,
and so some level of privacy is not only useful but desired by people of
sense is sane.
>
>
da pickle
>>> Seth, you have family?
>>> You ever consider some whacko might show up and do something?
>>> It's happened.
>>
>> This is really close to stepping over the line, Beldin.
>
> How?
> It's nowhere near the line. Pointing out that there are crazies out there,
> and so some level of privacy is not only useful but desired by people of
> sense is sane.
Your choice of words in context is poor. Very close to the line.
If you do not see it, then you do not see it.
mo_charles
i don't see it.....not in the slightest.
mo_charles
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da pickle
>> >>> Seth, you have family?
>> >>> You ever consider some whacko might show up and do something?
>> >>> It's happened.
>> >>
>> >> This is really close to stepping over the line, Beldin.
>> >
>> > How?
>> > It's nowhere near the line. Pointing out that there are crazies out
>> > there,
>> > and so some level of privacy is not only useful but desired by people
>> > of
>> > sense is sane.
>>
>> Your choice of words in context is poor. Very close to the line.
>>
>> If you do not see it, then you do not see it.
>
> i don't see it.....not in the slightest.
I yield to your superior observation.
It looked a lot like it could be read as a threat.
Perhaps it was just instructive in intent.
Pepe Papon
<beld...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>> No, you said that country music is depressing.
>>>I said it tends to be, and it does.
>>
>> Which is merely another way of saying that you know nothing about it.
>No, it isn't.
Once again, you show your ego-driven "brilliance" by arguing with an
industry professional about something of which you know nothing.
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Shania Twain is a real hottie, but her pop versions of videos sold
>>>>>>>>>really
>>>>>>>>>well, and the all country versions ended up in the dollar store (my
>>>>>>>>>sweetie
>>>>>>>>>picked it up as a gag gift)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Let me guess - you're thinking that this somehow supports your
>>>>>>>> point.
>>>>>>>Of course it does.
>>>>>>>People don't like country much.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many people don't like it, but many people do.
>>>>>Given a choice of virtually the same product, they voted with their
>>>>>wallets
>>>>>overwhelmingly against country.
>>>>
>>>> Who TF is "they", you idiot?
>>>The consumer, you fucking moron.
>>
>> As if "the consumer" is a monolithic entity.
>No, it's a synthesis of all consumer buying trends.
>"The consumer" represents the average consumer, the typical spending
>pattern, and shows preferences.
>
>But even YOU know this. But it makes a point you don't want to accept, so
>you'll bullshit around it.
No, it makes an invalid point. If your point were that there are
other formats that have a bigger market share than country, then it
would be hard to dispute that, but it's pretty ridiculous to say that
people don't much like it when it sells tens of millions of units per
year.
Furthermore, even if your assertion were correct, it's useless as
evidence, much less proof, of your original claim that country music
is depressing. Again, you speak with authority about things of which
you have no knowledge.
Beldin the Sorcerer
"Pepe Papon" <hitme...@mindspring.dot.com.invalid> wrote in message
> On Mon, 11 May 2009 10:40:30 GMT, "Beldin the Sorcerer"
> <beld...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>>>> No, you said that country music is depressing.
>>>>I said it tends to be, and it does.
>>>
>>> Which is merely another way of saying that you know nothing about it.
>>No, it isn't.
>
> Once again, you show your ego-driven "brilliance" by arguing with an
> industry professional about something of which you know nothing.
Seth, you're hardly an unbiased source.
The fact that you obviously don't understand markets is obvious.
>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Shania Twain is a real hottie, but her pop versions of videos sold
>>>>>>>>>>really
>>>>>>>>>>well, and the all country versions ended up in the dollar store
>>>>>>>>>>(my
>>>>>>>>>>sweetie
>>>>>>>>>>picked it up as a gag gift)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Let me guess - you're thinking that this somehow supports your
>>>>>>>>> point.
>>>>>>>>Of course it does.
>>>>>>>>People don't like country much.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Many people don't like it, but many people do.
>>>>>>Given a choice of virtually the same product, they voted with their
>>>>>>wallets
>>>>>>overwhelmingly against country.
>>>>>
>>>>> Who TF is "they", you idiot?
>>>>The consumer, you fucking moron.
>>>
>>> As if "the consumer" is a monolithic entity.
>>No, it's a synthesis of all consumer buying trends.
>>"The consumer" represents the average consumer, the typical spending
>>pattern, and shows preferences.
>>
>>But even YOU know this. But it makes a point you don't want to accept, so
>>you'll bullshit around it.
>
> No, it makes an invalid point.
No, it makes a VALID point.
If your point were that there are
> other formats that have a bigger market share than country, then it
> would be hard to dispute that, but it's pretty ridiculous to say that
> people don't much like it when it sells tens of millions of units per
> year.
Christ, you're a shithead.
2 versions of the same thing.
One pop, one country.
Pop version : Sells out
Country version : Remaindered to Dollar Tree.
If you are SERIOUSLY trying to claim that doesn't demonstrate a decided
consumer bias, give back your college diploma.
>
> Furthermore, even if your assertion were correct, it's useless as
> evidence, much less proof, of your original claim that country music
> is depressing. Again, you speak with authority about things of which
> you have no knowledge.
Of course it's depressing.
It's about bad shit happening to people.
That joke about the truck and the wife is funny for a reason; the typical
'country' song isn't about how wonderful life is and how much dough you're
rolling in.
Beldin the Sorcerer
"mo_charles" <harry...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:gr3md6x...@recgroups.com...
>> >>> Seth, you have family?
>> >>> You ever consider some whacko might show up and do something?
>> >>> It's happened.
>> >>
>> >> This is really close to stepping over the line, Beldin.
>> >
>> > How?
>> > It's nowhere near the line. Pointing out that there are crazies out
>> > there,
>> > and so some level of privacy is not only useful but desired by people
>> > of
>> > sense is sane.
>>
>> Your choice of words in context is poor. Very close to the line.
>>
>> If you do not see it, then you do not see it.
>
> i don't see it.....not in the slightest.
of course is highly insulting to me.
I'm the guy that apologized to Xaq for mistakenly quoting someone who
claimed to know what his real name was.
Pickle doesn't always keep up here.
Beldin the Sorcerer
"da pickle" <jcpickels@(no apam)hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bcOdnTBZIZ9dxpXX...@giganews.com...
You seriously think I'd do harm to anyone?
You REALLY need to work on your reads.
>
>
Beldin the Sorcerer
risks.
Like it isn't just mine, and I live with a wonderful woman and two dogs I
wouldn't risk.
Pepe Papon
<beld...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>No, I point out when people are being retards.
>>>There's no insecurity at all. You always make these moronic assumptions,
>>>seth.
>>>Why is that?
>>
>> Because they're anything but moronic. It's obvious to everyone but
>> you. But it's clear by now that any attempt to explain it to you is
>> futile.
>
>Seth, they're completely moronic.
>I know I'm smart. Been smart my entire life. I have the grades and scores to
>back it up; it's a documented, measured fact.
Ah, but when I uses the same reasoning, I'm a lying retard, according
to you. And, even your claims about yourself are true, why exactly
do you feel the need to "point out when people are being retards"? And
what does it say about you when you insist that highly intelligent
people are stupid?
>>>You've made any number of claims with no evidence at all.
>>>When asked to prove anything, it's always a situation where it can't be
>>>done, or you refuse to do it.
>>
>> And you foolishly believe that this somehow proves I'm lying.
>
>AGAIN with the shithead assumption.
>It doesn't PROVE you're lying.
And yet, you flatly asserted that lying is the only possible reason
for refusing to try and prove it to you.
>It increases the likelihood of it.
>You're a poker player, for christ's sake. You claim to be a WINNING poker
>player, and yet you fail to understand the basics of probability evaluation.
The likelihood that I'm lying is zero percent.
> Even
>> when the obvious explanation is provided to you, you stubborn hold to
>> the ridiculous idea that only one explanation is possible.
>Again, no, you fucking loon.
>You go with the most likely explanation until given sufficient evidence that
>it ISN'T.
Then your judgment of what's likely is seriously flawed.
>I don't claim you aren't who you say you are, for instance. Unlike Travel, I
>can accept there's enough evidence that you're the guy who wrote "Texas
>Holdem"
>
>When you claim to win a freeroll by "setting your mind to it" or win a large
>field tournament once in five attempts, I'm highly skeptical.
I never claimed to win a freeroll by "setting my mind to it". I said
that I set my mind to it and I won. Can you grasp the difference?
As far as the large field tournament, you can easily verify it. Just
go to your favorite database. Or do you think I'm only pretending to
be hitmeister on Stars and Full Tilt? That would put you in Travel's
category. I'm also hitmeister on Bodog, but the name was taken on
Absolute, so I'm Ace_Hog there.
>Those kinds of tournaments are amazingly high variance, loaded with
>unskilled players. I cannot begin to list the number of times I've been
>raised all in on the turn holding the nuts, called, and been sucked out on
>and eliminated.
>
>Now it's certainly possible you fluked your way through the minefield early
>on and stopped playing afterwards.
>It's Much more likely that you'd simply be bullshitting. Why? Because the
>former is an extremely low probability event.
Of course, the flaw in your reasoning is that you assume that my word
has no value. If you go through life assuming that people are liars
until proven otherwise, then I can only pity you.
If you're so worried about bribery, then why don't you make the
arrangements for the test?
>
>>
>> But you'll undoubtedly fall back on your 5th grader insults to allow
>> you to continue weaseling. It's what you do.
>
>No, idiot boy.
>I didn't use any of these insults in fifth grade.
I didn't say that you used them. I said that they're on the level of
a fifth grader. Which they are.
>Nor did I threaten to kick the shit out of people, a la Willie boy.
>
>You ever consider getting a hair piece?
Is that supposed to add credibility to your argument, or is taking a
personal cheap shot just another attempt at boosting your frail ego?
Pepe Papon
<beld...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>"Pepe Papon" <hitme...@mindspring.dot.com.invalid> wrote in message
>news:t1gf05l5c2ihitci1...@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 11 May 2009 01:51:17 GMT, "Beldin the Sorcerer"
>> <beld...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>>> The rest of the world uses the phrase "real name" in the singular even
>>>> when the name is actually a combination of first, middle, and last
>>>> names. For example, my real name is Seth Jackson. In English, we
>>>> don't say, "My real names are Seth Jackson" or "My real names are Seth
>>>> and Jackson".
>>>Yep, you're a shithead.
>>>
>>>A lot of people give their first name on the internet. That's their real
>>>name.
>>
>> So, according to you, "Seth Jackson" is not my real name. This is
>> the kind of brilliance we've come to expect from Beldingbat.
>
>No, shit for brains.
>
>If you gave your name as "Seth", you'd be giving your real name.
>There are people who do that.
>
>By using the plural, I'm making it clear I gave my complete name.
>Now I realize you're an idiot. And I realize you'll never admit that it
>gives more information, and saves keystrokes over "complete name" or "Full
>name" So I fully expect you to keep banging away at a point you simply
>didn't understand, and that's fine.
Except that I understand the point perfectly. I believe that you
don't. Now, let's argue ad nauseum about whose opinion is correct.
>You are, after all, a goddamn hillbilly.
Am I? Are you sure about that?
>>>There was less fear of whackjobs back then
>>
>>
>> In other words, 10 years ago or so, you were too dumb to realize that
>> anybody with a computer and Internet access could read Usenet, and
>> that there were undoubtedly some crazies out there among the millions
>> already online at the time. You were once a retard, but now you've
>> smartened up and are highly intelligent.
>
>NO, shithead.
>I went on to give a clear example.
>
>10 years ago the whackjobs were less aware of the internet.
I see. Internet awareness was unevenly distributed between whackjobs
and emotionally healthy individuals.
>The ratio of
>user to whackjob has gone up somewhat, and the ability of whackjobs to
>discover information has gone through the roof.
The second half of your sentence is certainly true. The accuracy and
logic of the first half is, shall we say, hard to support.
>>
>>>Christ, you ARE a fucking moron, Seth.
>>
>> Since my IQ is higher than yours, this implies that your intelligence
>> is on a par with, oh, a serving of vegetable dumplings.
>>
>
>No, actually, I strongly suspect it isn't.
You can suspect whatever you want, but your suspicions have no
relevance to reality.
>You actually eat vegetable dumplings?
Where did I suggest that?
>More evidence of the hillbilly aspect of your life.
You believe that only hillbillies eat Chinese food? That pretty much
tells all we need to know about your deductive reasoning skills.
>>>People used to give out apples for trick or treat, decades ago. They don't
>>>any more... because the crazies have shown themselves.
>>
>> But you didn't know they were out there on Usenet until they showed
>> themselves. Millions of people online, but only emotionally healthy,
>> stable individuals.
>Again, you're a shithead.
>And quite possibly suffering from limited ability to remember.
>The number of internet users in the mid 90's, and the percentage of
>population who knew what usenet even WAS, was considerably smaller back
>then.
And yet, there were still millions.
>>>>>I do respond to some e-mails, though, and those go out with my real name
>>>>>on
>>>>>them.
>>>>
>>>> How big of you.
>>>Seth, you have family?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>>>You ever consider some whacko might show up and do something?
>>
>> Of course, they could. My house could also get hit with a meteorite
>> at any moment. Am I going to worry about it?
>
>There's nothing you can do to prevent that.
>
>There are reasonable things you can do to prevent the former.
>
>>
>>>It's happened.
>>
>> I'm sure it has. It's also happened that I've made friends and
>> business contacts on Usenet.
>
>That's fine. And if you actually were a cautious, rational person, you'd get
>to know them before giving them your real name.
Another example of your faulty reasoning. You overlook the obvious
fact that there are degrees of cautiousness. You also assume that
rational thinking can lead to only one course of action despite the
fact that rational thought arising from different values and
assumptions will likely lead to different conclusions.
>Especially if you actually are a lowish level 'celeb' type.
Songwriters are hardly celebrities.
Beldin the Sorcerer
"Pepe Papon" <hitme...@mindspring.dot.com.invalid> wrote in message
Of course you don't.
It's my words.
I believe that you
> don't. Now, let's argue ad nauseum about whose opinion is correct.
There's no opinion.
It's a fact; my usage was correct. If you can't understand that, it ain't my
fault.
>
>>You are, after all, a goddamn hillbilly.
>
> Am I? Are you sure about that?
No, of course not. Based on the evidence, it's highly likely.
>
>
>>>>There was less fear of whackjobs back then
>>>
>>>
>>> In other words, 10 years ago or so, you were too dumb to realize that
>>> anybody with a computer and Internet access could read Usenet, and
>>> that there were undoubtedly some crazies out there among the millions
>>> already online at the time. You were once a retard, but now you've
>>> smartened up and are highly intelligent.
>>
>>NO, shithead.
>>I went on to give a clear example.
>>
>>10 years ago the whackjobs were less aware of the internet.
>
> I see. Internet awareness was unevenly distributed between whackjobs
> and emotionally healthy individuals.
Christ, you are a shithead.
Few people were aware of it. Most of them were into computers.
>
>>The ratio of
>>user to whackjob has gone up somewhat, and the ability of whackjobs to
>>discover information has gone through the roof.
>
> The second half of your sentence is certainly true. The accuracy and
> logic of the first half is, shall we say, hard to support.
No, retard, it's easy to support.
When usenet first started it was all academics and military.
10 years ago it was largely computer geeks.
Today, it's most of the general population.
>
>>>
>>>>Christ, you ARE a fucking moron, Seth.
>>>
>>> Since my IQ is higher than yours, this implies that your intelligence
>>> is on a par with, oh, a serving of vegetable dumplings.
>>>
>>
>>No, actually, I strongly suspect it isn't.
>
> You can suspect whatever you want, but your suspicions have no
> relevance to reality.
Sure it does.
Absent any evidence at all on your part.
>
>>You actually eat vegetable dumplings?
>
> Where did I suggest that?
You claimed to be aware of the intelligence of one.
>
>>More evidence of the hillbilly aspect of your life.
>
> You believe that only hillbillies eat Chinese food? That pretty much
> tells all we need to know about your deductive reasoning skills.
Christ alfuckingmighty.
Do these look like chinese food?
http://www.cooks.com/rec/view/0,1737,147173-251194,00.html
VEGETABLE SOUP WITH DUMPLINGS
2 to 3 beef soup bones with meat
3 qts. water
2 sm. onions, divided
1 bay leaf
4 med. potatoes, peeled and cubed
2 carrots, cubed
1 1/2 c. canned whole tomatoes, cut up and juice reserved
2 c. cubed cabbage
2 celery stalks, sliced
2 c. cut green beans
3/4 c. raw barley
Chopped fresh parsley
Salt and pepper to taste
DUMPLINGS:
1 c. all-purpose flour
2 tsp. baking powder
Pinch of salt
1/2 c. milk
>
>>>>People used to give out apples for trick or treat, decades ago. They
>>>>don't
>>>>any more... because the crazies have shown themselves.
>>>
>>> But you didn't know they were out there on Usenet until they showed
>>> themselves. Millions of people online, but only emotionally healthy,
>>> stable individuals.
>>Again, you're a shithead.
>>And quite possibly suffering from limited ability to remember.
>>The number of internet users in the mid 90's, and the percentage of
>>population who knew what usenet even WAS, was considerably smaller back
>>then.
>
> And yet, there were still millions.
Probably not on usenet.
AOL was the biggest provider, and they had so few usenet users as a
percentage.
>
>
>>>>>>I do respond to some e-mails, though, and those go out with my real
>>>>>>name
>>>>>>on
>>>>>>them.
>>>>>
>>>>> How big of you.
>>>>Seth, you have family?
>>>
>>> Yes.
>>>
>>>>You ever consider some whacko might show up and do something?
>>>
>>> Of course, they could. My house could also get hit with a meteorite
>>> at any moment. Am I going to worry about it?
>>
>>There's nothing you can do to prevent that.
>>
>>There are reasonable things you can do to prevent the former.
>>
>>>
>>>>It's happened.
>>>
>>> I'm sure it has. It's also happened that I've made friends and
>>> business contacts on Usenet.
>>
>>That's fine. And if you actually were a cautious, rational person, you'd
>>get
>>to know them before giving them your real name.
>
> Another example of your faulty reasoning. You overlook the obvious
> fact that there are degrees of cautiousness. You also assume that
> rational thinking can lead to only one course of action despite the
> fact that rational thought arising from different values and
> assumptions will likely lead to different conclusions.
No, I assume rational people measure risk / reward, and math only comes to
one conclusion, always.
It's a precise science.
>
>>Especially if you actually are a lowish level 'celeb' type.
>
> Songwriters are hardly celebrities.
Actually, some are. And I listed you as low level.
You're no Neil Peart. Who is?
Beldin the Sorcerer
"Pepe Papon" <hitme...@mindspring.dot.com.invalid> wrote in message
> On Mon, 11 May 2009 10:37:08 GMT, "Beldin the Sorcerer"
> <beld...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>>>No, I point out when people are being retards.
>>>>There's no insecurity at all. You always make these moronic assumptions,
>>>>seth.
>>>>Why is that?
>>>
>>> Because they're anything but moronic. It's obvious to everyone but
>>> you. But it's clear by now that any attempt to explain it to you is
>>> futile.
>>
>>Seth, they're completely moronic.
>>I know I'm smart. Been smart my entire life. I have the grades and scores
>>to
>>back it up; it's a documented, measured fact.
>
> Ah, but when I uses the same reasoning, I'm a lying retard, according
> to you.
You see, you don't.
I'm happy to show scores, demonstrate them to anyone, and be tested again.
You want your naked assertion accepted without question.
And, even your claims about yourself are true, why exactly
> do you feel the need to "point out when people are being retards"?
Because this is usenet. And there ARE people who take naked assertion to
heart.
You think Skills practices critical thinking skills when he spouts off about
the Myan calendar?
And
> what does it say about you when you insist that highly intelligent
> people are stupid?
I don't.
Don't use a circular arguement.
>
>
>>>>You've made any number of claims with no evidence at all.
>>>>When asked to prove anything, it's always a situation where it can't be
>>>>done, or you refuse to do it.
>>>
>>> And you foolishly believe that this somehow proves I'm lying.
>>
>>AGAIN with the shithead assumption.
>>It doesn't PROVE you're lying.
>
> And yet, you flatly asserted that lying is the only possible reason
> for refusing to try and prove it to you.
No, I asserted, quite accurately, that it's the most likely reason.
>
>>It increases the likelihood of it.
>>You're a poker player, for christ's sake. You claim to be a WINNING poker
>>player, and yet you fail to understand the basics of probability
>>evaluation.
>
> The likelihood that I'm lying is zero percent.
a non-meaningful statement.
Evidence, Pepe, is what changes probability assessments.
>
>> Even
>>> when the obvious explanation is provided to you, you stubborn hold to
>>> the ridiculous idea that only one explanation is possible.
>>Again, no, you fucking loon.
>>You go with the most likely explanation until given sufficient evidence
>>that
>>it ISN'T.
>
> Then your judgment of what's likely is seriously flawed.
No, your reasoning center is seriously fucked up.
Naked assertions without proof are meaningless.
>
>>I don't claim you aren't who you say you are, for instance. Unlike Travel,
>>I
>>can accept there's enough evidence that you're the guy who wrote "Texas
>>Holdem"
>>
>>When you claim to win a freeroll by "setting your mind to it" or win a
>>large
>>field tournament once in five attempts, I'm highly skeptical.
>
> I never claimed to win a freeroll by "setting my mind to it". I said
> that I set my mind to it and I won. Can you grasp the difference?
There ain't none.
Your claim is that your skills got you there that one time, with the
implication that they could any time, which is, in a nutshell, pure
bullshit.
>
> As far as the large field tournament, you can easily verify it. Just
> go to your favorite database. Or do you think I'm only pretending to
> be hitmeister on Stars and Full Tilt? That would put you in Travel's
> category. I'm also hitmeister on Bodog, but the name was taken on
> Absolute, so I'm Ace_Hog there.
I said skeptical, not a denialist.
Evidence is a wonderful thing.
>
>
>>Those kinds of tournaments are amazingly high variance, loaded with
>>unskilled players. I cannot begin to list the number of times I've been
>>raised all in on the turn holding the nuts, called, and been sucked out on
>>and eliminated.
>>
>>Now it's certainly possible you fluked your way through the minefield
>>early
>>on and stopped playing afterwards.
>>It's Much more likely that you'd simply be bullshitting. Why? Because the
>>former is an extremely low probability event.
>
> Of course, the flaw in your reasoning is that you assume that my word
> has no value. If you go through life assuming that people are liars
> until proven otherwise, then I can only pity you.
On usenet, it's generally a valid assumption that people who won't cite, or
show evidence, ARE liars.
You just offered evidence, however.
He's not coming to Mass.
And of course there's always the slight possibility that his entire
godhood/month+ fasting/ total lack of understanding schtick is a scam to
hustle bets.
>
>>
>>>
>>> But you'll undoubtedly fall back on your 5th grader insults to allow
>>> you to continue weaseling. It's what you do.
>>
>>No, idiot boy.
>>I didn't use any of these insults in fifth grade.
>
> I didn't say that you used them. I said that they're on the level of
> a fifth grader. Which they are.
Christ no.
Boogerhead is fifth grade.
>
>>Nor did I threaten to kick the shit out of people, a la Willie boy.
>>
>>You ever consider getting a hair piece?
>
> Is that supposed to add credibility to your argument, or is taking a
> personal cheap shot just another attempt at boosting your frail ego?
Actually, it was a question.
I've been banned from getting one.
I'm not thrilled with my missing hair up front. An unfortunate symptom of
hypothyroidism I failed to note early enough.
It's a neutral question, that you decided was an insult.
Why? Because you have evidence that I enjoy insulting you.
You interpreted it. Incorrectly, but not unreasonably.
Pepe Papon
<beld...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>"Pepe Papon" <hitme...@mindspring.dot.com.invalid> wrote in message
>news:3srg0555gt9142tgg...@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 11 May 2009 10:40:30 GMT, "Beldin the Sorcerer"
>> <beld...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> No, you said that country music is depressing.
>>>>>I said it tends to be, and it does.
>>>>
>>>> Which is merely another way of saying that you know nothing about it.
>>>No, it isn't.
>>
>> Once again, you show your ego-driven "brilliance" by arguing with an
>> industry professional about something of which you know nothing.
>
>Seth, you're hardly an unbiased source.
So, you really do believe that you know more about an industry than an
industry professional. My bias is towards reality based on actual
knowledge.
>The fact that you obviously don't understand markets is obvious.
Stay on topic. The above sequence of sentences is about your claim
that country music is depressing. But it's funny to see you, once
again, claim to know more than a professional about his own field of
expertise. I have an MBA in Marketing, and I spent 5 years as a
marketing specialist/product manager with a Fortune 100 company.
>>>>>> Who TF is "they", you idiot?
>>>>>The consumer, you fucking moron.
>>>>
>>>> As if "the consumer" is a monolithic entity.
>>>No, it's a synthesis of all consumer buying trends.
>>>"The consumer" represents the average consumer, the typical spending
>>>pattern, and shows preferences.
>>>
>>>But even YOU know this. But it makes a point you don't want to accept, so
>>>you'll bullshit around it.
>>
>> No, it makes an invalid point.
>
>No, it makes a VALID point.
>
> If your point were that there are
>> other formats that have a bigger market share than country, then it
>> would be hard to dispute that, but it's pretty ridiculous to say that
>> people don't much like it when it sells tens of millions of units per
>> year.
>
>Christ, you're a shithead.
>
>2 versions of the same thing.
>One pop, one country.
>
>Pop version : Sells out
>Country version : Remaindered to Dollar Tree.
You fall back on this little anecdote as if it somehow means anything.
First of all, even if you could prove your silly idea that people
don't like country, it would lend zero support to your original claim
that country is depressing.
Secondly, your anecdote contains next to no information. What
differentiates the two versions? How many of each were manufactured?
How many of each were sold?
Thirdly, even if the data showed that the pop version far outsold the
country version, what exactly do you think that proves? It's one
artist. If you want to determine the respective market shares of the
two genres, one looks at the cumulative data rather than relying on
one specific piece of anecdotal evidence.
>If you are SERIOUSLY trying to claim that doesn't demonstrate a decided
>consumer bias, give back your college diploma.
If you're not merely trolling, and you really believe that your little
story has any relevant meaning, you have no business telling any one
else what to do or think about anything. I previously was inclined
to believe your claim of a 136 IQ, but if that's indeed your score,
then you've got to be the stupidest gifted person walking the face of
the Earth.
>
>>
>> Furthermore, even if your assertion were correct, it's useless as
>> evidence, much less proof, of your original claim that country music
>> is depressing. Again, you speak with authority about things of which
>> you have no knowledge.
>
>Of course it's depressing.
>It's about bad shit happening to people.
Once again, you're wrong. You know nothing. But don't take it from
someone who's intimately involved with the industry of writing and
marketing country songs. After all, what would I know? You're
Beldin, and you have your Unbiased Opinion.
>That joke about the truck and the wife is funny for a reason; the typical
>'country' song isn't about how wonderful life is and how much dough you're
>rolling in.
Unfortunately for you, this is the best you've got in the way of
proof: an old joke.