OT: America is a sick joke
dynamite
breast that a woman is suing CBS for "billions" of dollars and the Feds
are investigating.
At the same time the NRA stops gun control laws so any sicko can walk
around the block and pump you full of lead.
Has any American heard of getting their priorities wrong?
You have a sick, warped country. Thank God I don't live there.
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don't live in nor know little about.
Jon
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mikeb
>
> You have a sick, warped country. Thank God I don't live there.
If you don't live here, all you know about the country is what others tell
you. Those of us who know it first hand would not live anywhere else. If
America is such a shit-hole, why are so many people, perhaps even from
your country, trying so hard to get here?
Why don't you tell us where you live, and we will tell you what we believe
about your country, also without benefit of our ever having lived there.
dynamite
I have spent approximately 2 years living in the USA due to work
commitments.
I also visit a couple of times a year for big poker tournaments.
I will list some other things I hate about your country:
You sell arms to some of the most dispicable regimes in the World.
You polute the world with huge amounts of cfc gases and refuse to cut down
when every other civilised country agrees to.
You health care system is a complete joke failing to care for the most
needy in society.
Any country which elects Bush must be seriously flawed
You still have the death penalty when virtually every other Western
country has abolished it years ago.
Pete Rose gambled on a few baseball games and is barred from the hall of
fame while wife beaters and drug addicts are welcomed.
Utah.
shall i continue?
Irish Mike
Where is the utopia you live in?
Irish Mike
"I stood on the Dublin docks and my future was uncertain, in a place where
fortunes are won and lost on the dealing of a hand"
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FredW
Get yourself some professional help before you hurt somebody.
Ta Ta
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Oscar
the free and the home of the brave. No where on earth offers what the
American society can offer. Britain in itself is an excellent country , but
for you to rip America is uncalled for and obviously an Anti Blair person
also. So you just keep yourself in Britain and the world, at least the
United States will be much better off.
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Roy MacPherson
<anon...@tcq.net> wrote:
> If you don't live here, all you know about the country is what others tell
> you. Those of us who know it first hand would not live anywhere else.
This makes me laugh.
When I was in Japan with the Air Force, I knew dozens of Americans who
spent 4 to 6 years in country, and NEVER ONCE stepped foot off base.
That is truly amazing. And sick. And it is also characteristic of the
type of people that would make a comment like the one you made above.
Americans, probably more than any other culture in the world, make a
great effort at remaining ignorant of the rest of the world. And, the
funny thing is, they seem damn proud of it, too. America is not as
great as you think, believe me. But, you wouldn't know that, would
you? And you'd rather not find out.
---Roy
go post some where else
the disgusting genocide your racist pompus country commited against my
ppl." I do not remember the last time the US engaged in ethnic cleansing
or imperialism...GO HOME!
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>From: "dynamite" anon...@yahoo.com
>Date: 2/6/2004 6:26 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <40244caa$0$220$9a6e...@news.newshosting.com>
>shall i continue?
No, that's ok, I'll take it from here.
You have and support an archaic royalty.
You drive on the wrong side of the road.
Though you have centuries of history, no one ever learned to cook.
You all have awful teeth.
The Spice Girls.
Per capita, you belch more filfth into the environment than we do.
You may think our politics are screwed up, but you FOLLOWED us. What's worse,
the screwy one, or the one who follows him?
You repress your emotions in public and take it out in private by beating on
family members.
If it weren't for us, you'd be speaking German.
Shall I continue?
dynamite
The Janet Jackson thing really annoyed me for some reason. RGP is the only
place I frequent online where I *know* there is a proliferartion of
americans I wanted to vent my anger somehow.
There are good things about America I know.. I didn't have an entirely
hateful 2 years there and I wouldn't return at all unless there were some
redeeming features.
I remember seeing some footage of an American woman after 9/11. She was
crying and said something like: "Why does the rest of the World hate us?"
Perhaps the insularity you talk of is one of the main reason the world
hates America.
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Ken Lovering
then.......the Irish are always lookin for a fight..........:-)
Best wishes,
Ken
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dynamite
> >Subject: Re: OT: America is a sick joke
> >From: "dynamite" anon...@yahoo.com
> >Date: 2/6/2004 6:26 PM Pacific Standard Time
> >Message-id: <40244caa$0$220$9a6e...@news.newshosting.com>
>
> >shall i continue?
>
> No, that's ok, I'll take it from here.
>
> You have and support an archaic royalty.
personally I detest the royality. scroungers.
>
> You drive on the wrong side of the road.
When we change gear we leave the right hand on the steering wheel. most
people are right handed. It makes far more sense to drive on our side.
>
> Though you have centuries of history, no one ever learned to cook.
>
this abuse coming from a country who invented mcdonalds, burger king and
kfc.
> You all have awful teeth.
Better than being hugely obese
>
> The Spice Girls.
fair point. youve got me there. Although you gave us new kids on the block
>
> Per capita, you belch more filfth into the environment than we do.
wrong
>
> You may think our politics are screwed up, but you FOLLOWED us. What's
worse,
> the screwy one, or the one who follows him?
blair is a poodle. he is not carrying out the wishes of the people he
purports to represent.
>
> You repress your emotions in public and take it out in private by beating on
> family members.
where the hell did that come from? utter bullshit
>
> If it weren't for us, you'd be speaking German.
and if it wasnt for us you would be talking Spanish.
>
> Shall I continue?
timmer
concealed carry weapons legislation so some trained, caring individuals can
put and end to sickos who walk around looking for lost foreigners to fill
full of lead .
speaking of priorities why are you so worried about America (I think you
meant United States of America which is what our country is called.) An
entire continent is a lot to worry about .
OB geography lesson : America is a continent not a country
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Deep Throat
> and if it wasnt for us you would be talking Spanish.
> >
?Que dices? No comprendo ingles, senor payaso.
Dave Hitt
wrote:
>Americans are getting worked up to such extent about Janet Jacksons right
>breast that a woman is suing CBS for "billions" of dollars and the Feds
>are investigating.
>
>At the same time the NRA stops gun control laws so any sicko can walk
>around the block and pump you full of lead.
>
>Has any American heard of getting their priorities wrong?
>
>You have a sick, warped country. Thank God I don't live there.
We thank god you don't live here too.
Dave Hitt
----
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http://www.davehitt.com/april03/homebody.html
Dave Hitt
wrote:
>I am 42 years old and British.
>
>I have spent approximately 2 years living in the USA due to work
>commitments.
>
>I also visit a couple of times a year for big poker tournaments.
>
>I will list some other things I hate about your country:
>
>You sell arms to some of the most dispicable regimes in the World.
>You polute the world with huge amounts of cfc gases and refuse to cut down
>when every other civilised country agrees to.
>You health care system is a complete joke failing to care for the most
>needy in society.
>Any country which elects Bush must be seriously flawed
>You still have the death penalty when virtually every other Western
>country has abolished it years ago.
>Pete Rose gambled on a few baseball games and is barred from the hall of
>fame while wife beaters and drug addicts are welcomed.
>Utah.
But on the other hand, we have nice teeth.
I would suggest that you go down to a wharf and find the largest rat
you can. Take a very sharp knife and remove his anus. Take that
anus, examine it, grok it, commune with it, and above all try to asses
what it's worth.
Then realize that we don't give a rats ass about your opinion.
When you were the world power, everyone hated you as well. Now that
we're wearing that mantle, everyone hates us. With the exception of
some prissy liberals, most of us react to the disdain of the rest of
the world with "Ho Hum, What's for dinner?"
Personally, I have a great deal of love and respect for the Brits -
they are fierce warriors, staunch allies, and much of our culture and
society came (and continues to come) directly from there. If it
weren't for you folks, the US wouldn't exist. Every fourth of July I
raise a glass of good beer in the general direction of the UK and say
"Thanks, Mum."
And knowing that there are a few putzes like you there won't change my
opinion in the least.
Dave Hitt
wrote:
>>Subject: Re: OT: America is a sick joke
>>From: "dynamite" anon...@yahoo.com
>>Date: 2/6/2004 6:26 PM Pacific Standard Time
>>Message-id: <40244caa$0$220$9a6e...@news.newshosting.com>
>
>>shall i continue?
>
>No, that's ok, I'll take it from here.
>
>You have and support an archaic royalty.
>
>You drive on the wrong side of the road.
That is incorrect. They drive on both sides of the road.
>Though you have centuries of history, no one ever learned to cook.
What, you're not fond of Blood Sausage, Spotted Dick, and Willie One
Polyp?
OTOH, they have better beer than we do.
>You all have awful teeth.
Socalized dentistry.
>The Spice Girls.
The Beatles, the Stones, The Who.
>If it weren't for us, you'd be speaking German.
OTOH, they did fight their asses off, unlike the French, who rolled
over on their back and said "Do me, big boy."
>Shall I continue?
Naw. There's enough nasty stuff to say about any country, anywhere,
and the US and UK are no exception.
Personally, I love the British. This guy I could do without, but
then, there are a lot of American assholes too.
Dave Hitt
One thing most people who make this complaint never seem to think of -
America is HUGE. In most of europe, if you drive for a few hours in
any direction you're in a different country. You can drive for DAYS
in the US and still be in the US. We make no effort to avoid learning
about other cultures, we simply have far too much of our own to
explore, and not enough hours in the day.
Dave Hitt
wrote:
>Roy,
>
>The Janet Jackson thing really annoyed me for some reason. RGP is the only
>place I frequent online where I *know* there is a proliferartion of
>americans I wanted to vent my anger somehow.
>
>There are good things about America I know.. I didn't have an entirely
>hateful 2 years there and I wouldn't return at all unless there were some
>redeeming features.
>
>I remember seeing some footage of an American woman after 9/11. She was
>crying and said something like: "Why does the rest of the World hate us?"
>
>Perhaps the insularity you talk of is one of the main reason the world
>hates America.
Nonsense. They hate us because we're #1 at just about everything.
They fear us, and at the same time want to be us. They hate us the
way a 16 year old pimply faced kid hates a 26 year old super model for
ignoring him, but would do anything to get her attention.
usqshy48001
keep your sorry azz from getting a visa to visit...
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vp-heaven
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amendment to the Constitution which is in the "Bill of Rights" (the first
ten amendments). It guarantees us the right to keep and bear arms. If you
don't live here why do you care so damned much?
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DaVoice
"dynamite" <anon...@yahoo.com> wrote
> I am 42 years old and British.
>
> I have spent approximately 2 years living in the USA due to work
> commitments.
>
> I also visit a couple of times a year for big poker tournaments.
>
> I will list some other things I hate about your country:
<snip totally incoherent list of complaints>
> shall i continue?
NO. Just stay in the U.K. if you don't like it here! Ya know, we beat
your asses for our independence, we certainly don't need your advice or
consent to live the way we want to.
DaVoice
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traffic sucks and the city is filthy. Prices are high, service is poor and
your income tax rate borders on armed robbery. Clean up the problems in
your own country before you start knocking America.
Irish Mike
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Irish Mike
over on their back and said "Do me, big boy."
They have French army rifles for sale on e-bay: "like new, never fired,
dropped once."
Irish Mike
"I stood on the Dublin docks and my future was uncertain, in a place where
fortunes are won and lost on the dealing of a hand"
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mrpoker
the America haters don't just hate Bush or republicans, they hate all
americans and America.
Just like bigoted whites hate blacks and bigoted blacks hate whites..
People like this Brit are simply classic bigots..
But you phony american liberals on the other hand can suck up all you
want to the overseas "Hate-America First'ers", you can keep calling
for one-world government, and keep trying to give over our national
sovereignty to the UN...
But the what's the bottom line?... They'll still hate you, too!...
And if we give them the opportunity through the UN, they'll punish
all of us bigtime, even you smooth-talking limp kneed liberals...
You have no idea how sick it makes me to hear your begging and your
constant whine, "Oh, oh, if only we could be more european, and didn't
have the death penalty, and cowboys and nascar and George Bush and
flyover states and if we didn't holler "we're number one" all the
time, the world would love us again".
News flash!! Get over it..The America haters were there long before
Bush, and will be there long after...You can book that...
If they can hate us after the efforts we made during WWII and the
money we spent on defensing against the Soviet Union, all of which we
did for our own benefit but nonetheless benefitted countries who
consequently did not have to spend a dime for their own defense for
over 50 years, If they hate us after all of that, you can book it...
No liberal sucking up will change them..We'll just have to write 'em
off...
Let 'em spend on their own defense, and their 65% tax rate will go
even higher..It'll serve 'em right...
As for this Brit, I'd call for repealing the treaty that allows Brits
not to pay taxes on their US gambling winnings... But dumb as this guy
is, he probably doesn't have any winnings...
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Roy MacPherson
<anon...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I will list some other things I hate about your country:
> Utah.
Say no more!
---Roy
Roy MacPherson
<oscarth...@sesamestreet.com> wrote:
> America is the land of the free and the home of the brave. No where on earth offers what the
> American society can offer.
Nowhere else on earth can the citizens spew such banal slogans without
the substance to back it up.
---Roy
Roy MacPherson
<BoydoIhat...@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
> The Beatles, the Stones, The Who.
Don't forget Jimi Hendrix. If it weren't for the British, we might not
have ever discovered our native son.
---Roy
FL Turbo
wrote:
>Americans are getting worked up to such extent about Janet Jacksons right
>breast that a woman is suing CBS for "billions" of dollars and the Feds
>are investigating.
The scene of Janet pushing out half her stack was no doubt the most
prominent event that got a whole lot of people worked up, but there
are more things being discussed.
There is the issue of advertisers resorting to potty humor.
There is the issue of the pitiful state of TV content.
There is the issue of the pitiful state of popular music.
We often get treated to surveys of how people in the world view
America.
A large number of them get their views from what they see coming out
of the entertainment industry like movies, TV, and music.
Media celebrities often whine and moan about the negative opinions
that people have about American society.
Ironic, eh wot?
>
>At the same time the NRA stops gun control laws so any sicko can walk
>around the block and pump you full of lead.
Guess what, Dyna?
There are already all kinds of sickos walking around with guns.
There are already all kinds of gun control laws.
Guess what else, Dyna?
The sickos don't give a damn about no steenkin' gun laws.
There should be a Darwin Award category for the business
establishments that post a sign saying:
"GUNS NOT ALLOWED ON THE PREMISES"
It would make a good scene for a movie, of a line of sickos with guns
turning away in front of that sign.
Like the bad guys in Blazing Saddles going back to town to get a
shitload of dimes to put in a tollgate in the middle of the desert.
>
>Has any American heard of getting their priorities wrong?
Americans have been psycho-analyzing themselves for as long as I can
remember.
It reached its peak in what I fondly call the "Blame America First"
analysis.
Here are the rules:
1. If anything bad happens in the world:
A. It is something we did that we should not have done.
B. It is something we did not do that we should have done.
2. If anything good happens in the world:
A. It is despite something we did that we should not have done.
B. It is despite something we did not do that we should have done.
3. If undecided on whether an event is good or bad, flip a coin to
decide.
4. GOTO 1
These rules will save your time so you can find out what you think,
without wasting all that time trying to actually think.
>
>You have a sick, warped country. Thank God I don't live there.
You would live up to your full potential as Useful Idiot, if only you
could convince the millions of people coming into this country
illegally that they really don't want to come to this sick, warped
country.
timmer
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> Well those of us who are stuck here don't appreciate the gloating.
>
> >
> > You have a sick, warped country. Thank God I don't live there.
then you will love this Presidential candidates slate:
Robin Williams for president 2004.
Leave it to Robin Williams to come up with the perfect plan... what we need
now is for our UN Ambassador to stand up and repeat this message.
Robin Williams' plan...(Hard to argue with this logic!)
I see a lot of people yelling for peace but I have not heard of a plan for
peace. So, here's one plan:
1. The US will apologize to the world for our "interference" in their
affairs, past & present. You know, Hitler, Mussolini, Tojo, Noriega,
Milosovich and the rest of those 'good ole boys.' We will never "interfere"
again.
2. We will withdraw our troops from all over the world, starting with
Germany, South Korea and the Philippines. They don't want us there. We
would station troops at our borders. No one sneaking through holes in the
fence.
3. All illegal aliens have 90 days to get their affairs together and leave.
We'll give them a free trip home. After 90 days the remainder will be
gathered up and deported immediately, regardless of who or where they are.
France would welcome them.
4. All future visitors will be thoroughly checked and limited to 90 days
unless given a special permit. No one from a terrorist nation would be
allowed in.
If you don't like it there, change it yourself and don't hide here.
Asylum would never be available to anyone. We don't need any more cab
drivers or
7-11 cashiers.
5. No "students" over age 21. The older ones are the bombers. If they
don't attend classes, they get a "D" and it's back home baby.
6. The US will make a strong effort to become self-sufficient energy wise.
This will include developing non-polluting sources of energy but will
require a temporary drilling of oil in the Alaskan wilderness. The caribou
will have to cope for a while.
7. Offer Saudi Arabia and other oil producing countries $10 a barrel for
their oil. If they don't like it, we go some place else. They can go
somewhere else to sell their production. (About a week of the wells filling
up the storage sites would be enough.)
8. If there is a famine or other natural catastrophe in the world, we will
not "interfere." They can pray to Allah or whomever, for seeds, rain, cement
or whatever they need. Besides most of what we give them is stolen or given
to the army. The people who need it most get very little, if anything.
9. Ship the UN Headquarters to an isolated island some place. We don't
need the spies and fair weather friends here. Besides, the building would
make a good homeless shelter or lockup for illegal aliens.
10. All Americans must go to charm and beauty school. That way, no one can
call us "Ugly Americans" any longer.
There Now, ain't that a winner of a plan.
"The Statue of Liberty is no longer saying 'Give me your poor, your tired,
your huddled masses.' She's got a baseball bat and she's yelling, 'You want
a piece of me?'"
If you agree with the above forward it to friends. the Language we speak is
ENGLISH.....learn it...or LEAVE
timmer
"Roy MacPherson" <lightn...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> In article <40244728$0$158$9a6e...@news.newshosting.com>, mikeb
> <anon...@tcq.net> wrote:
>
> > If you don't live here, all you know about the country is what others
tell
> > you. Those of us who know it first hand would not live anywhere else.
>
> This makes me laugh.
>
> When I was in Japan with the Air Force, I knew dozens of Americans who
> spent 4 to 6 years in country, and NEVER ONCE stepped foot off base.
> That is truly amazing. And sick. And it is also characteristic of the
> type of people that would make a comment like the one you made above.
>
> Americans, probably more than any other culture in the world, make a
> great effort at remaining ignorant of the rest of the world. And, the
> funny thing is, they seem damn proud of it, too. America is not as
> great as you think, believe me. But, you wouldn't know that, would
> you? And you'd rather not find out.
>
> ---Roy
timmer
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Matt
> OB geography lesson : America is a continent not a country
That's a pretty bad geography lesson. I'll let the poster see if he
can figure out why on his own.
Matt
AJohn808
>, you can keep calling
>for one-world government,
so what is wrong with a one world government again? i keep forgetting. it
seems to be a given that its bad. one giant country wouldn't have any other
countries to fight with.
and as far as losing their unique culture, global economics are turning the
planet into one giant Walmart/Mcdonalds anyway.
(calling Paul G)
jimpepper
> Americans are getting worked up to such extent about Janet Jacksons right
> breast that a woman is suing CBS for "billions" of dollars and the Feds
> are investigating.
>
> At the same time the NRA stops gun control laws so any sicko can walk
> around the block and pump you full of lead.
The only thing the gun control laws do is take guns away
from law abiding people.
Criminals and sickos can get guns anytime they want.
I personally could aquire a weapon illegally in about 24 hours
if I desired.
Legally I can not even own one to defend my home at this time.
Why?Due to changing the laws and red tape bullshit.
That leaves honest law abiding people unable to defend themselves.
Outlaw guns and only outlaws will have guns.
jim
>
> Has any American heard of getting their priorities wrong?
>
> You have a sick, warped country. Thank God I don't live there.
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Serengeti293
>Message-id: <4024553d$0$155$9a6e...@news.newshosting.com>
>
>On Feb 7 2004 2:50AM, Serengeti293 wrote:
>
>> >Subject: Re: OT: America is a sick joke
>> >From: "dynamite" anon...@yahoo.com
>> >Date: 2/6/2004 6:26 PM Pacific Standard Time
>> >Message-id: <40244caa$0$220$9a6e...@news.newshosting.com>
>>
>> >shall i continue?
>>
>> No, that's ok, I'll take it from here.
>>
>> You have and support an archaic royalty.
>
>personally I detest the royality. scroungers.
Excellent, we agree on that. Score one against you.
>>
>> You drive on the wrong side of the road.
>
>When we change gear we leave the right hand on the steering wheel. most
>people are right handed. It makes far more sense to drive on our side.
Nice argument, except that it would then make sense to free up the hand that
needs the most dexterity to shift the gears. It doesn't take much skill to
leave a hand planted on the steering wheel. Screwing up the gear change, that
could be very dangerous. Score another for the good guys.
>>
>> Though you have centuries of history, no one ever learned to cook.
>>
>this abuse coming from a country who invented mcdonalds, burger king and
>kfc.
Yes, and we also invented a whole host of fine dining which not only takes
advantage of what we have available locally, but has built upon influences from
around the world. Many culinary delights attributed to other countries
actually originated right here. Meanwhile, you continue to serve up boiled
cabbage and potato soup. Score us another one.
>> You all have awful teeth.
>Better than being hugely obese
No, it isn't. I can go on a diet, join a health club, etc. What are you going
to, have all your black, crooked teeth pulled out and replaced with dentures?
zweeeeet, score another for the good guys.
>>
>> The Spice Girls.
>fair point. youve got me there. Although you gave us new kids on the block
The New Kids on the Block disbanded and one of their former members has become
a well-known and respected actor. The Spice Girls continue to "do their
thing". Kaching, another point.
>>
>> Per capita, you belch more filfth into the environment than we do.
>wrong
No, it's right.... and it's because you refuse to upgrade a lot of technology
that's left over from the industrial revolution. Thanks for the point.
>>
>> You may think our politics are screwed up, but you FOLLOWED us. What's
>worse,
>> the screwy one, or the one who follows him?
>blair is a poodle. he is not carrying out the wishes of the people he
>purports to represent.
Excellent, you have a fuckup in power who no one likes. Way to go, British
people, and score another one for us.
>>
>> You repress your emotions in public and take it out in private by beating
>on
>> family members.
>where the hell did that come from? utter bullshit
Yeah? Who was that famous Lord who got up in the House of Lords and served up
a line like, "Well, gentlemen, we all know we beat our wives so let's not
waffle about that" in response to legislation proposed to deal with it?
Another point.
>>
>> If it weren't for us, you'd be speaking German.
>and if it wasnt for us you would be talking Spanish.
Uhh, no. We kicked your butts here, then we kicked the Spanish's butts here as
well. And for good measure, when the Spanish were kicking YOUR butts, we
helped you out. A final point for us.
>>
>> Shall I continue?
Oh, most certainly! I've got a shutout going here. Every single point you
countered with served to show that you're perhaps even more ignorant than we
first thought. Oh, do go on! Brilliant stuff!!
David Monaghan
wrote:
>I recently returned from two weeks in London. Food sucks, poker sucks,
>traffic sucks and the city is filthy. Prices are high, service is poor and
>your income tax rate borders on armed robbery.
Well, you know, London is London. It isn't really Britain - or even England.
It's just London.
It sounds like you were unlucky with your food but I wouldn't argue strongly
against the rest of your comments - although income tax isn't really any of
your business. Traffic is awful, for sure.
>Clean up the problems in your own country before you start knocking
>America.
You don't really mean that- at least not as a general principle. And even if
you do, no troll is going to take a blind bit of notice.
DaveM
David Monaghan
>Uhh, no. We kicked your butts here,
Um, no. Your French friends kicked our but.
DaveM
frigginviruses@pacbell.net Paul G.
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>
> You have no idea how sick it makes me to hear your begging and your
> constant whine, "Oh, oh, if only we could be more european, and didn't
There is a very strong drive and sinister plan now to do to us the same
thing they have done to the Europeans. Under so-called "free trade", they
seek to make a "European Union" out of our own hemisphere.
STOP the FTAA!!!
-Paul G.
frigginviruses@pacbell.net Paul G.
news:20040207130030...@mb-m10.aol.com...
John, world government has always been the goal of communists. These are
the people who have snuffed out freedom and millions of lives all over the
globe. A world government will certainly be the end of the principles
behind our own freedom. There will be no Constitutional rights and
protections under a world government. No freedom loving person should fall
for the trap of world government. Only power hungry maniacs and would-be
tyrants would want world government. (and gullible starry-eyed dreamers)
Now if you think it is difficult to change things at City Hall, it is even
more difficult at the County Board of Supervisors. And yet even more
difficult at the State Capitol. And, of course, even more difficult at the
Federal level. Can you imagine the power of a world capitol? It would be
tyranny on a global scale. Once ALL power is consolidated at that level,
the hope of mankind to have freedom would be extinguished.
Perhaps you are right in saying that there would be no more wars. Well,
John, they have peace in Vietnam now. But it is a prison with no rights and
no individual freedom. Living in peace as a slave, is not a good thing,
John.
Best Regards,
Paul G.
PS: I'm scheduled to adopt out that puppy this coming Monday. Wish him
luck. :-)
FL Turbo
Thank you very much for the opportunity.
I'm sure Paul would tell you much the same things as I, but from a
different perspective.
Start out by thinking of the old saying:
"You can't fight City Hall"
This means that the average citizen by himself has a hard time
influencing decisions made at the city government.
Take this one step farther and think of State government.
One government with a whole lot more territory and citizens to govern.
Fighting City Hall doesn't look like such a tough proposition any more
in comparison.
Citizens in the western part of the state can have different
conditions than those in the eastern part.
The State government will no doubt try to be "fair" to everyone, but
Good Luck on keeping everybody happy.
Take the next step up to the Federal government, and you have
200,000,000+ people with one government.
Personally, I like the ancient concept of considering the 50 States as
individual "Laboratories of Democracies".
As long as there is free travel, people can vote with their feet and
leave a state that has become non-responsive to the citizens.
If the entire country comes under single, unified, one-size-fits-all
rule, where can you go?
No lack of unhappy citizens here.
Just listen to the opposition party here screaming:
"NO! NO! HE'S DOING IT ALL WRONG! LET US DO IT!! WE CAN DO IT BETTER"
If you have read any of my other rants, you will know what position I
think the opposition party is leaning towards, namely a path to a
one-world government.
All you need to do is expand the realities of a single, unified,
one-size-fits-all Federal government, to a One-World government.
If you think about it, it ought to give you the shivering fits.
I hope you now remember why a one-world government is a 'Bad Idea'.
DaVoice
liked him.
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The Voice of Poker on the Web
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David Monaghan
>as a Scotish imigrant to the US. I want to say to you."Do you remember
>the disgusting genocide your racist pompus country commited against my
>ppl." I do not remember the last time the US engaged in ethnic cleansing
>or imperialism...GO HOME!
He said he was British, not English.
DaveM
Grunty
> They hate us because we're #1 at just about everything.
> They fear us,
It seems that Americans feel and think about themselves just like
Romans did a couple of millennia ago, and Brits a couple of centuries
ago. The very same superiority, the very same lack of care about the
rest of the world, the very same blindness or indifference about the
worldwide problems: poverty, hunger, environmental pollution.
Hope that when US reaches its crisis era, it does in a gradual way
like British empire did, rather than the destructive way Roman did.
Since US is the largest possesor of WMD, I fear such a crisis could
lead to its desperate use at that stage.
Historically, US leadership has already proven to be (morally) able to
drop WMD upon civilian people in Japan, thus getting #1 at WMD usage,
in a similar way followed by #2 former partner Saddam upon Kurds. No
doubt you're #1 at just about everything... no reason to be arrogant
indeed.
> and at the same time want to be us. They hate us the
> way a 16 year old pimply faced kid hates a 26 year old super model for
> ignoring him, but would do anything to get her attention.
Bart9349FUspam
hates America.
Before I begin my rant, let me say that thanks to the British, Spanish is not
our official language: remember the Armada? (Although Spanish is our unofficial
language here in California, but that's another story.)
Also, thanks to the British who defeated the French on several occasions, we
don't speak French, either. (Napolean didn't have a sense of humor, that's for
sure.)
Obviously, thanks to the British help last century, we don't need to speak
German.
(Hitler had even less of a sense of humor than Napolean. But I'm not so sure we
should have gotten involved in the first World War, however.)
That said, during my travels thru Europe, especially Italy and Holland, the
Brits aren't all that swift at "cultural sensitivity,'"
either. The English kids are notorious for their rowdy behavior in Amsterdam.
In a Dutch bar a few weeks ago, a couple English guys asked whether the Dutch
spoke German as their native tongue. Throughout Italy, the Brits are well-known
for their lack of effort to learn the language of my relatives, the "I-tyes."
So before you start to piss me off (my dad's relatives were kicked out of
Scotland because of some English bastards) or you get my inner-Italian angry
(bacciami il culo italiano, sporcacione), let me say:
"Can't we all just get along...and deal some Poker?"
May you NEVER "seven-out,"
guy
DaVoice
--
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MARGE 2003 TOC Champion
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The Voice of Poker on the Web
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dynamite
Fair comments.
I was just very pissed off about the furore of JJs right breast. I mean,
how can people be so angry about a bit of the human body when violence
seems to be acceptable in your society.
The ridiclous replies of so many posters just reinforced my opinions. But
you have proved there are some intelligent reasonable people in your
country.
I apologise to you, and you alone, if my original comments offended you.
I agree. Let's play poker.
_________________________________________________________________
dynamite
You think 9/11 was funny?
no?
Well quit making jokes out of Hiroshima when people are still suffering
the after effects of the USA's recklessness 60 years later.
_________________________________________________________________
timmer
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Bart9349FUspam
I agree. Forty years ago, Lenny Bruce spoke of America's tolerance of violence
but the inability to handle sexuality.
That said, I am upset about Jackson's breast because...why couldn't it have
been Brittney Spears' breast, Aguilera's, or anyone else's? Old, washed-up pop
stars should not show their body parts.
Nudity can be a beautiful thing...but what the Hell was that metal Ninja Death
Star thing around her nipple? I found that very disturbing. That frightening
image has been indelibly etched into my mind. It still haunts me. It might
affect my Poker game in Las Vegas next month. Damn her!
Now I must go to several "Gentlemen's Clubs" to extricate that horrible
lingering image of her deflated breast from my head.
Fortunately, I am now happily married. But a frightening image like that could
drive any young impressionable straight guy to beastiality or worse. Oh, the
humanity.
Dave Hitt
>Dave Hitt <BoydoIhat...@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message news:<pro820h684san4eci...@4ax.com>...
>> They hate us because we're #1 at just about everything.
>> They fear us,
>
>It seems that Americans feel and think about themselves just like
>Romans did a couple of millennia ago, and Brits a couple of centuries
>ago. The very same superiority, the very same lack of care about the
>rest of the world, the very same blindness or indifference about the
>worldwide problems: poverty, hunger, environmental pollution.
Amazing how one can be so right, and so wrong, at the same time.
Your first sentence is correct. Your second shows a great deal of
ignorance about nearly everything in the world. NO ONE has done as
much to fight poverty and hunger as the US. No one has even come
close. (I'm sure you're firing up the % of GDP argument. Ho hum,
what's for dinner?) As for environment, we've done far more to clean
up our country than most other countries have - and the worst
environmental disasters are the result of
socalist/comunist/dictatorial regimes.
>Hope that when US reaches its crisis era, it does in a gradual way
>like British empire did, rather than the destructive way Roman did.
>Since US is the largest possesor of WMD, I fear such a crisis could
>lead to its desperate use at that stage.
>Historically, US leadership has already proven to be (morally) able to
>drop WMD upon civilian people in Japan, thus getting #1 at WMD usage,
>in a similar way followed by #2 former partner Saddam upon Kurds. No
>doubt you're #1 at just about everything... no reason to be arrogant
>indeed.
It's hard to be humble when you're as great as we are. Just as it was
hard for the Brits, and the Romans, when they were #1. As for
referring to the use of The Bomb to put an end to WWII, your phrasing
indicates you're ignorance of that event is so great there's not
enough room in usenet to educate you. Therefore, your opinion on that
subject, and any subjects relating to it, rankes somewhere below
"worthless."
Ace
> I am 42 years old and British.
>
> I have spent approximately 2 years living in the USA due to work
> commitments.
>
> I also visit a couple of times a year for big poker tournaments.
>
> I will list some other things I hate about your country:
>
> You sell arms to some of the most dispicable regimes in the World.
> You polute the world with huge amounts of cfc gases and refuse to cut down
> when every other civilised country agrees to.
> You health care system is a complete joke failing to care for the most
> needy in society.
> Any country which elects Bush must be seriously flawed
> You still have the death penalty when virtually every other Western
> country has abolished it years ago.
> Pete Rose gambled on a few baseball games and is barred from the hall of
> fame while wife beaters and drug addicts are welcomed.
> Utah.
>
>
> shall i continue?
> On Feb 7 2004 2:02AM, mikeb wrote:
>
> > On Feb 6 2004 7:36PM, dynamite wrote:
> > >
> > > You have a sick, warped country. Thank God I don't live there.
> >
tell
> > America is such a shit-hole, why are so many people, perhaps even from
> > your country, trying so hard to get here?
> >
> > Why don't you tell us where you live, and we will tell you what we
believe
> > about your country, also without benefit of our ever having lived there.
salmoneous
KlingvilleBill
> As for environment, we've done far more to clean
>up our country than most other countries have - and the worst
>environmental disasters are the result of
>socalist/comunist/dictatorial regimes.
The US has 5% of the worlds population yet consumes 25% of the natural
resources being consumed. This makes the US the planets biggest polluter. Its
just a legal, organized, ongoing environmental disaster. Whats going to happen
when China, Africa and India demand a car for each of their citizens? Then
you'll see a true disaster.
wg bradley
"KlingvilleBill" <klingvi...@aol.com> wrote in message
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It will be an even worse disaster when they demand 2 SUVs, a boat, and
a motorhome for each of their citizens. But sadly, I don't think we'll
ever make it that far anyway. I really feel for future generations and
the mess we are leaving them.
Lawrence Beyer
there is South America, and there is the United
States of America, but no America.
--
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Asha34
song, a great rock group, and the land masses of North, South and Central
America. It is also the colloquial term used to refer to the United States of
America, especially by Americans -- that is people who live in the United
States of America.
No America, indeed! Sheesh!!!!
Ashley Adams
an American living in America
DaVoice
subtlety is lost on those less fortunate, such as yourself.
--
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MARGE 2003 TOC Champion
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The Voice of Poker on the Web
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David Monaghan
<ri...@removethisvoiceofpoker.com> wrote:
>I've always liked Robin. This is just another example of WHY I have always
>liked him.
Continue liking him, but not for this writing.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/williams.asp
DaveM
Bollduh
newsgroups...but I just want to tell some young aspiring writer (unlike
myself, who is just aspiring to become an aspiring young writer) to
somehow copy the entire thread...and possibly introduce the same thread on
other newsgroups that consist of people from all different countries and
make it into a book...you can even have other controversial topics (i.e.
abortion, affirmative action, God/religion, etc.)....it'd be kind of like
Joe Gould's Oral History (not many people know about it..some homeless guy
in New York back in the 40s said he had been writing an oral
history...taken from all kinds of conversations and stuff...turns out he
was a fraud and never wrote a single word of this so-called Oral
History....if there are any Joseph Mitchell fans out there...you should
know what I'm talking about)...anyway...I thought the entire
discussion/argument was pretty interesting....sorry if this makes
absolutely no sense...I'm just kind of writing as I'm thinking...
-Greg...who is still amazed at the Arizona/Stanford game
dynamite
something witty about rwanda? or the jewish concentaration camps maybe?
you have the subtlety of a blunderbuss.
fool.
Marttila
> you have proved there are some intelligent reasonable people in your
> country.
>
And you have proved that there are some (at least one) unintelligent
and unreasonable people in your country.
Marttila
> On 07 Feb 2004 18:00:30 GMT, ajoh...@aol.com (AJohn808) wrote:
>
> If the entire country comes under single, unified, one-size-fits-all
> rule, where can you go?
>
Well, if the nirvana of federally run health care comes to pass we
will be under a one-size-fits-all rule.
And the COOL thing is...!...., if I don't like my doctors decision
about something, I have the power do do something about it
immediately. By voting 4 years later.
David Monaghan
>you have the subtlety of a blunderbuss.
Perhaps you should offer him some lessons on making subtle, inoffensive
posts.
DaveM
DaVoice
life, will ya? And next time you come to the U.S. for a major tourney, I'll
buy you lunch and explain it to you.
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The Voice of Poker on the Web
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timmer
a canal Panama was implemented and isn't it still kinda connected beneath
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timmer
which of these 3 countrys are you from ?
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Grunty
> As for environment, we've done far more to clean
> up our country than most other countries have -
I wasn't meaning to deal with country-wide problems, but world-wide
problems. Since your corporations and factories, and the military
bases and fleets that protect them, are spread out all over the world,
you're taking the role of the leading actor, and this fact should
imply worldwide responsibilities as well.
> and the worst environmental disasters are the result of
> socalist/comunist/dictatorial regimes.
I can recall examples from both regimes:
Chernobyl (Ukraina), in the USSR socialist-comunist-dictatorship.
Bophal (India), produced by Union Carbide, member of US
corporative-dict...er...establishment.
This proves it is a problem that exceeds national and political
boundaries.
> As for referring to the use of The Bomb to put an end to WWII,
> your phrasing indicates you're ignorance of that event is so great
> there's not enough room in usenet to educate you.
I am fortunate having the opportunity to be pointed at faults in my
education. The Bombs cut down that opportunity to tenths of thousands
of children in a second.
NO strategic consideration can be worth hundreds of thousands of
non-combatant lives in a single act.
> Therefore, your opinion on that subject, and any subjects relating to it, rankes somewhere below "worthless."
All those lives ranked somewhere below "worthless" too.
I recommend you get a child, so you will know.
KlingvilleBill
I understand what you're driving at. I dont claim to be free from contributing
my share to the wasteful American way of living. I'm guilty also.
>you have a car ?
Si, Senor. In fact, I put a total of 750 miles on it last year. I try to take
the bus or even a train for long trips and my bicycle for getting around
locally. But i still find it necessary to go to town every couple of weeks.
>which of these 3 countrys are you from ?
Yo no comprende. Whats your point?
My point is that the human race, in its efforts to halt pollution and
environmental destruction, is not doing a very good job. We are losing ground
at an alarming rate and the US is leading the way. And most people dont
care.The small gains we make in passing more stringent laws are more than off
set by population growth and people wanting more cars and bigger houses and
more crap to fill those houses.
But, hey, lets not worry about. It'll all work out, wont it.
Dave Hitt
wrote:
>>From: Dave Hitt
>
>> As for environment, we've done far more to clean
>>up our country than most other countries have - and the worst
>>environmental disasters are the result of
>>socalist/comunist/dictatorial regimes.
>
>The US has 5% of the worlds population yet consumes 25% of the natural
>resources being consumed.
And produces 50% of the worlds goods and services.
(That's not true, but since you get to make up numbers, I thought I'd
do the same.)
A huge portion of the natural resources being consumed are OURS. Not
yours. Our rich natural resources is one of the reasons we're such a
wealthy country. The other is we work harder than anyone else, with
the possible exception of the Japanese.
> This makes the US the planets biggest polluter.
Bzzt! Consumption of resources does not necessarily make one a
polluter. Thanks for playing, we have lovely parting gifts.
Take a walk through the US. Then do the same in a socialist, or
communist, or dictatorial country. Note the environment in each.
Then comment on how crow does not taste like chicken.
>Its
>just a legal, organized, ongoing environmental disaster. Whats going to happen
>when China, Africa and India demand a car for each of their citizens? Then
>you'll see a true disaster.
No, you'll see the population trend turn around.
The best cure for overpopulation is wealth. As wealth and education
increases, population increase slows dramatically. Thus, when we see
China and India getting (as opposed to simply demanding) cars for
their citizens, we can see that as a good thing, not a bad one.
As for Africa, that place is such a mess, such a hell hole, that I'm
beginning to wonder if they'll ever dig out.
Dave Hitt
wrote:
>>From: "timmer"
>
> I understand what you're driving at. I dont claim to be free from contributing
>my share to the wasteful American way of living. I'm guilty also.
>
>>you have a car ?
>
> Si, Senor. In fact, I put a total of 750 miles on it last year. I try to take
>the bus or even a train for long trips and my bicycle for getting around
>locally. But i still find it necessary to go to town every couple of weeks.
You go to town? Don't you realize that towns and citys consume a HUGE
amount of resources to survive, all out of proportion to those in
rural areas?
> >which of these 3 countrys are you from ?
>
> Yo no comprende. Whats your point?
>
> My point is that the human race, in its efforts to halt pollution and
>environmental destruction, is not doing a very good job. We are losing ground
>at an alarming rate and the US is leading the way. And most people dont
>care.The small gains we make in passing more stringent laws are more than off
>set by population growth and people wanting more cars and bigger houses and
>more crap to fill those houses.
The sky is falling! The sky is falling!
The environment in the US is cleaner than it has been in the past 50
years, and it continues to improve.
> But, hey, lets not worry about. It'll all work out, wont it.
Yeah, actually it will. It's being worked out right now. And no
matter how much better things get, the Chicken Littles will continue
to squeal about The End of The World.
Dave Hitt
>Dave Hitt <BoydoIhat...@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message news:<c70d201coq2ised2g...@4ax.com>...
>
>> As for environment, we've done far more to clean
>> up our country than most other countries have -
>
>I wasn't meaning to deal with country-wide problems, but world-wide
>problems. Since your corporations and factories, and the military
>bases and fleets that protect them, are spread out all over the world,
>you're taking the role of the leading actor, and this fact should
>imply worldwide responsibilities as well.
>
>> and the worst environmental disasters are the result of
>> socalist/comunist/dictatorial regimes.
>
>I can recall examples from both regimes:
>Chernobyl (Ukraina), in the USSR socialist-comunist-dictatorship.
>Bophal (India), produced by Union Carbide, member of US
>corporative-dict...er...establishment.
>This proves it is a problem that exceeds national and political
>boundaries.
Now compare what happened in the aftermath of each case.
The bophal mess was cleaned up.
The chernyobal mess remains encased in cheap concrete, a future
disaster waiting to happen. The USSR was so poor that they couldn't
afford to discard all the contaminated food grown in the area, so they
"solved" the problem by shipping it all over the country, trying to
dilute the impact by poisoning everyone a little, instead of poisoning
a lot of people in one area.
In short, one disaster is over and done with, the other is still going
on - we have no idea how many people will be dying prematurely because
of Chernyobl.
>> As for referring to the use of The Bomb to put an end to WWII,
>> your phrasing indicates you're ignorance of that event is so great
>> there's not enough room in usenet to educate you.
>
>I am fortunate having the opportunity to be pointed at faults in my
>education. The Bombs cut down that opportunity to tenths of thousands
>of children in a second.
>NO strategic consideration can be worth hundreds of thousands of
>non-combatant lives in a single act.
Again, I don't believe you're qualified to discuss this, so I won't be
participating in this part of the conversation.
>All those lives ranked somewhere below "worthless" too.
>I recommend you get a child, so you will know.
My twin daughters are doing fine, thanks.
Dave Hitt
<Larry...@comcast.net> wrote:
>There is no "America". There is North America,
>there is South America, and there is the United
>States of America, but no America.
"God Bless Vespucciland..."
Paul Adams
> there is South America, and there is the United
> States of America, but no America.
I've always wondered why people find this an interesting thing to say. "Ah,
zee foolish Americans... calling themselves 'Americans,' zey are so foolish,
those foolish Americans."
By the way, I'm writing this from Korea. And no, the Koreans in Uijeongbu
and Seoul don't call themselves "South Koreans." I don't expect the Koreans
in Pyeongyang call themselves "North Koreans" either. "Ah, zee foolish
Koreans... calling themselves 'Koreans,' zey are so foolish, those foolish
Koreans!"
Ken M
Japanese civilian casulaties expected in an invasion. It was believed the
Japanese regime would arm the civilians and force them to die in horrible
numbers for Imperial Japan. Whether you like it or not, that was a American
consideration.
The expected American military casualties were mostly civilians in uniform
trying to get the war over, so they could go home. Their lives meant a hell of
a lot too.
You're either totally uneducated or you're a fool. I'm inclined to go with the
latter.
KlingvilleBill
snip Mr Hitts best Alfred E Nueman imitation..."What....me worry?"
"Jane, you ignorant slut" : )
Obviously, we disaggree on the future of the environmental problems the
planet is facing, and I doubt either of us will ever change. So eat, drink,
and be merry, dude.
ps...the sky IS falling. Literally.
frigginviruses@pacbell.net Paul G.
Hiroshima.
The end was already obvious for Axix. They would have given up WITHOUT the
BOMB. But the bomb was dropped for another purpose that most people don't
know. If you understand that the whole World War II's primary purpose was
to trick us into world government through a newly created body like the UN,
a second attempt after the first League of Nations was rightfully rejected.
After we dropped the bomb on them, there was an intensive propaganda
campaign in this country to push the concept that we must join the United
Nations because it was "man's last hope for peace." Everywhere there were
billboards and editorials and posters showing this horrible weapon that had
been dropped on Japan. People had never seen such a devastating weapon.
They kept showing over and over and over a large mushroom cloud, with the
message "man's last hope for peace, we must join the United Nations."
In other words, I don't believe we had to drop the bomb at all. They were
ready to surrender. No, culprits in our own State Dept., some of the same
scoundrels who knew about Pearl Harbor before it even happened, were
determined to drop this bomb on Japan no matter what, so as to use it as a
propaganda tool to get us into the United Nations.
And it worked. Whereas the Senate was smart enough to recognize the
previous League of Nations for what it was, an attempt to usher in world
government, this time, the nation was so weary of war and so frightened by
this new atomic weapon that our Senate unanimously said OK for the United
Nations, with only two Senators even reading the Charter itself.
Now, 50 years later, we are approaching attaining what the founders of the
UN really wanted from the beginning. A formidable UN with enough force to
bring the world into a world government merger. Total global tyranny.
-Paul G.
Sept. 11, 1991 - George Bush Sr. in televised address:
"Out of these troubled times, our fifth objective - a new world order - can
emerge...."
Jan 7, 1991 - George Bush Sr. in U.S. News and World Report Interview:
"I think that what's at stake here is the new world order."
Jan 9, 1991 - George Bush Sr. at Press Conference:
"[The Gulf Crisis] has to do with a new world order. And that new world
order is only going to be enhanced if this newly activated peace-keeping
function of the United Nations proves to be effective."
Jan 16, 1991 - George Bush Sr. in televised address:
When we are successful, and we will be, we have a real chance at this new
world order, an order in which a credible United Nations can use its
peacekeeping role to fulfill the promise and vision of the UN's founders."
Aug 1991 - National Security Strategy of the United States issued by the
White House and signed by George Bush Sr.:
In the Gulf, we saw the United Nations playing the role dreamed of by its
founders.... I hope history will record that the Gulf Crisis was the
crucible of the new world order."
salmoneous
> a canal Panama was implemented and isn't it still kinda connected beneath
By the same logic, Asia and Africa are one continent, right?
PS - if you want to go around correcting people's grade school
geography knowledge, you may want to brush up on subject/verb
agreement before posting :)
Brian
> My point is that the human race, in its efforts to halt pollution and
> environmental destruction, is not doing a very good job. We are losing
ground
> at an alarming rate and the US is leading the way.
Obviously spoken by someone who has not been in a third world country of
late. Step across the border from Texas to Mexico and watch as industry
dumps all liquid waste right into the rivers and streams.
In Texas, more specifically Austin, we will hold up a shopping mall for 10
years over a cave bug, in Houston there is a huge tract of land set aside
for the Houston Toad who by the way has not been sited in over 20 years.
Mexico, hunters flock down there (no pun) because they can kill all the
birds they want, no limit. Same for fish.
Sure we burn a lot of oil, chop down a bunch of trees but we also lead the
world in tree planting and alternate energy research. That and support a
good part of the worlds economy in the process.
Happen to be in the Oil and Gas so I can say without fear of harassment that
as soon as the LNG (Liquid Natural Gas) issues are settled ala building
terminals far enough offshore to avoid the effects of a medium nuke if a
tanker blows up, that we will spread the wealth even more into Russia
(Siberia), the middle east and South America where there is more Natural Gas
than we have ever found in the US.
So we are not running out of resources, we are just spreading the dough
around and having a pretty good time.
What will kill us are the entitlements that we countinue to pile on, I am
sure I will not live to see the bust that is coming. But it will come and
it will be ugly. When the number of people on the dole exceed the number of
taxpaying workers.....
ok...blah blah blah
Brian
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Easy E
and the land masses of North, South and Central
> America.
Ash, isn't this more correctly labeled "the Americas" as in plural?
I personally have never seen a reference to the entire connected land
mass as just "America"
Irish Mike
die for their Emperor/country. All that Samurai nonsense. Some how I don't
see them surrendering if we landed on their soil and hadn't dropped the
bomb.
Irish Mike
"I stood on the Dublin docks and my future was uncertain, in a place where
fortunes are won and lost on the dealing of a hand"
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Gary Leddering
high-ranking military and goverment officials as early as July 1945
clearly stating their intentions to surrender. With or without the bomb
they were going to surrender. According to a large majority of insider
and historical accounts the bomb was dropped to preclude further East
Asian penetration by the USSR. It was the first strategic move of the
Cold War.
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OrangeSFO
> Ah, seems I read something about those Japanese kamikaze pilots. Willing to
> die for their Emperor/country. All that Samurai nonsense.
Samurai and Kamikaze were two different people from two different
eras. But I'm sure that's a bit more than you are willing or able to keep
straight. But you get points for knowing both were Japanese.
DaVoice
off giving a "global warming" speech in -1 degree weather?
George Carlin said it best. We are no more than a SURFACE NUISANCE to this
earth. We couldn't destroy it if we tried. It's the arrogance of humanity
believing we are in control of the Universe.
--
Rick "ADB DaVoice" Charles
MARGE 2003 TOC Champion
http://www.voiceofpoker.com
The Voice of Poker on the Web
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Asha34
Grader..Ask him who Christopher Columbus was. I assure you, he won't say, "He
is the man who discovered the Americas".
Ashley Adams
author of Winning 7-Card Stud
OrangeSFO
> And Al Gore invented the internet. By the way, just how STUPID did he come
> off giving a "global warming" speech in -1 degree weather?
So your very scientific logical processes goes: "It's cold today.
Global warming must be a load of crap.
The Internet: Al Gore did what politicians do. He took credit--and
rightly so--for leading Congress in the early visionary funding that paved
the way that led from the military ARPANET to today's Internet. He NEVER
claimed to have "invented" it. The exact quote, very much out of it's
full context, was:
"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in
creating the Internet."
It was big (and COMPLETELY nonpartisan *wink*) intellects like Sean
Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, and Ann "Just Plain Fucking Nuts" Coulter who ran
wild with this and relentlessly spun it out as "another Al Gore whopper".
If you have the guts to look up the quote and his Congressional voting
record--both readily available on...the Internet!--and find out how easily
the hacks can make a stooge of you and get you parroting their cynical
party line...then I encourage you to put in the effort.
If you don't have the will, then please...STOP PERPETUATING LIES.
Lawrence Beyer
settled
in what is now North America, almost 500 years before Columbus sailed the
ocean blue.
--
Larry...@comcast.net
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Gary Carson
>settled
>in what is now North America,
Yes, but they thought it was Greenland.
--
Gary Carson
http://garycarson.com
Peg Smith
<Larry...@comcast.net> writes:
>How old is that dictionary. It was proven years ago, that the Vikings
>settled
>in what is now North America, almost 500 years before Columbus sailed the
>ocean blue.
Really? Even before the "Native Americans"?
Peg
frigginviruses@pacbell.net Paul G.
The Nazis were obviously defeated. They were begging to surrender to the
U.S. troops. However, our troops were held outside of Berlin and Prague for
two weeks, to allow the Russians to get there from the east. Even though
the Nazis were ready to surrender to us, they continued to fight tooth and
nail as the Russians approached. They fought fiercely against the
approaching Russians, even though defeat was already guaranteed. They had
lost already. This is because they KNEW what the Russians would do when
they reached them. Not just because the Russians were not very nice, but as
a matter of political STRATEGY, they raped and pillaged and ransacked Berlin
and Prague when they arrived. They raped everyone. Old ladies, little
girls. Again, although it is obvious that the Russians were bad guys, this
was not the reason they did such things. They did it as political strategy,
uh, because, well, uh, that's what communists do. And all the while the
Germans would have been happy to surrender to Eisenhower, but he held our
troops back two weeks outside of Berlin and Prague to allow the Russians to
arrive.
On another note, our troops had orders to return certain allies who had
escaped Stalin and fought with us against the Nazis. It was called
Operation Keelhaul. Russians who had fled the terror of Stalin fought with
us side by side against Hitler. Our loyal allies fighting for freedom. Our
troops were ordered to force these soldiers into boxcars at gunpoint, and
return them to the clutches of Stalin. It doesn't take much imagination to
guess what happened to these men on returning to Stalin.
If anyone here is a young student, or has children who are in school, please
show me where in their history texts or their Political Science courses that
these facts are brought out. Our country has been sold out by traitors
within, for decades. For a closer look at these traitors within, examine
the role of the Council on Foreign Relations, founded in 1921.
-Paul G.
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SNIP
> Now, 50 years later, we are approaching attaining what the founders of
> the UN really wanted from the beginning. A formidable UN with enough
> force to bring the world into a world government merger. Total global
> tyranny.
>
> -Paul G.
What force are you talking about? The Australians in East Timor? The
US and Canadians in Kosovo? Nigerians in Liberia?
There's not a single unified military structure anywhere in the UN.
They have to borrow armies from signatory nations to do their silly job.
--
The Baron
(Jeff James)