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brattt
Oct 12, 2012, 11:26:20 AM10/12/12
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Biden's security team for his dangerous debate mission in Kentucky was 100
times what Libyan Ambassador Stevens got.
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Whose stated mission is to call out the Asses on RGP
times what Libyan Ambassador Stevens got.
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Whose stated mission is to call out the Asses on RGP
BillB
Oct 12, 2012, 11:35:28 AM10/12/12
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On 10/12/2012 8:26 AM, brattt wrote:
> Biden's security team for his dangerous debate mission in Kentucky was 100
> times what Libyan Ambassador Stevens got.
duh. Kentucky = teabaggers
> Biden's security team for his dangerous debate mission in Kentucky was 100
> times what Libyan Ambassador Stevens got.
popinjay999
Oct 12, 2012, 11:35:59 AM10/12/12
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On Oct 12, 8:28 am, "brattt" <af3...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> Biden's security team for his dangerous debate mission in Kentucky was 100
> times what Libyan Ambassador Stevens got.
>
They need to have these things where it's safe. Like Vancouver.
> Biden's security team for his dangerous debate mission in Kentucky was 100
> times what Libyan Ambassador Stevens got.
>
BillB
Oct 12, 2012, 11:41:40 AM10/12/12
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On 10/12/2012 8:35 AM, popinjay999 wrote:
> They need to have these things where it's safe. Like Vancouver.
It's true. There are very few teabaggers in Vancouver. Biden would be
> They need to have these things where it's safe. Like Vancouver.
very safe here, so long as he doesn't get involved in any hockey-related
disturbances.
Puppytoes
Oct 12, 2012, 12:02:41 PM10/12/12
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building with the broken intercom where the streets thugs hang out!!
BillB
Oct 12, 2012, 12:16:50 PM10/12/12
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safest in Vancouver for violent and property crimes, according to the
crime stat maps I have seen.
Just by way of comparison, Vancouver's murder rate was 1.8 per 100,000
in 2011, whereas many towns and cities in Kentucky have murder rates
well over TEN TIMES that.
Sorry if the facts are uncomfortable.
mo_ntresor
Oct 12, 2012, 12:14:58 PM10/12/12
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On Oct 12 2012 10:02 AM, Puppytoes wrote:
> > It's true. There are very few teabaggers in Vancouver. Biden would be
> > very safe here, so long as he doesn't get involved in any hockey-related
> > disturbances.
>
> He would be very safe as long as he didn't step outside your apartment
> building with the broken intercom where the streets thugs hang out!!
does biden ride the bus?
> > It's true. There are very few teabaggers in Vancouver. Biden would be
> > very safe here, so long as he doesn't get involved in any hockey-related
> > disturbances.
>
> He would be very safe as long as he didn't step outside your apartment
> building with the broken intercom where the streets thugs hang out!!
mo_ntresor
Dave the Clueless
Oct 12, 2012, 1:03:40 PM10/12/12
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threat to Biden?
-------
A Republican candidate stands before 60 million voters and commits to an
agenda and his opponent responds that this isn’t really his agenda, and
that voters should instead look to Democratic attack ads and liberal
think-tank papers to learn what the Republican is proposing.
Dave the Clueless
Oct 12, 2012, 1:08:50 PM10/12/12
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brattt
Oct 12, 2012, 1:22:53 PM10/12/12
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On Oct 12 2012 11:16 AM, BillB wrote:
> my neighborhood is actually one of the
> safest in Vancouver for violent and property crimes, according to the
> crime stat maps I have seen.
Why do you live there? Do you hate minorities and poor people?
> my neighborhood is actually one of the
> safest in Vancouver for violent and property crimes, according to the
> crime stat maps I have seen.
buffal...@hotmail.com
Oct 12, 2012, 1:25:07 PM10/12/12
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On Friday, October 12, 2012 10:28:29 AM UTC-5, brattt wrote:
> Biden's security team for his dangerous debate mission in Kentucky was 100 times what Libyan Ambassador Stevens got. --------------------------------------------------------------- Assistant Newsgroup Coordinator, rec.gambling.poker Whose stated mission is to call out the Asses on RGP
why did Stevens leave the 100 plus guarded compound
> Biden's security team for his dangerous debate mission in Kentucky was 100 times what Libyan Ambassador Stevens got. --------------------------------------------------------------- Assistant Newsgroup Coordinator, rec.gambling.poker Whose stated mission is to call out the Asses on RGP
to spend 911 a mile down the road?
mo_ntresor
Oct 12, 2012, 1:52:09 PM10/12/12
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On Oct 12 2012 11:25 AM, buffalomacle wrote:
> > Biden's security team for his dangerous debate mission in Kentucky was 100
times what Libyan
> Ambassador Stevens got.
--------------------------------------------------------------- Assistant
> Newsgroup Coordinator, rec.gambling.poker Whose stated mission is to call
out the Asses on RGP
>
> why did Stevens leave the 100 plus guarded compound
> to spend 911 a mile down the road?
buffalochip, can we safely assume all your posts will mindlessly defend
> > Biden's security team for his dangerous debate mission in Kentucky was 100
times what Libyan
> Ambassador Stevens got.
--------------------------------------------------------------- Assistant
> Newsgroup Coordinator, rec.gambling.poker Whose stated mission is to call
out the Asses on RGP
>
> why did Stevens leave the 100 plus guarded compound
> to spend 911 a mile down the road?
denominators no matter what? if so, you should preface your posts with
accepted group protocol: OFW.
mo_ntresor
brattt
Oct 12, 2012, 1:54:27 PM10/12/12
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abcnews.go.com › International
On Sept. 11, Stevens did not leave the compound because of security fears
due to the 9/11 anniversary. He had arrived in Benghazi the day before
with five guards in total. Two additional Diplomatic Security agents from
Tripoli were with him in addition to the three agents normally detailed to
the compound.
Though some administration officials had initially said that the attack
grew out of protests over an anti-Muslim film, the senior State Department
official told reporters today that "nothing was out of the ordinary" on
the night of the attack.
At 8:30 p.m., the ambassador said goodnight to a visiting Turkish diplomat
outside the compound and the streets were empty. But at 9:40 p.m., noises,
gunfire and an explosion were heard by the agents located in the TOC and
Building B.
Dave the Clueless
Oct 12, 2012, 2:06:48 PM10/12/12
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On Oct 12 2012 2:25 PM, buffalomacle wrote:
> why did Stevens leave the 100 plus guarded compound
> to spend 911 a mile down the road?
He didn't, you fucking retard.
> why did Stevens leave the 100 plus guarded compound
> to spend 911 a mile down the road?
BillB
Oct 12, 2012, 2:08:51 PM10/12/12
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On 10/12/2012 10:08 AM, Dave the Clueless wrote:
>> Just by way of comparison, Vancouver's murder rate was 1.8 per 100,000
>> in 2011, whereas many towns and cities in Kentucky have murder rates
>> well over TEN TIMES that.
>>
>> Sorry if the facts are uncomfortable.
>
> Define many. I found 1 that was 4.44 times 1.8 . What did I miss?
For example:
>> Just by way of comparison, Vancouver's murder rate was 1.8 per 100,000
>> in 2011, whereas many towns and cities in Kentucky have murder rates
>> well over TEN TIMES that.
>>
>> Sorry if the facts are uncomfortable.
>
> Define many. I found 1 that was 4.44 times 1.8 . What did I miss?
A review by the Lexington Herald-Leader found that Leslie and nine
neighboring Appalachian counties in southeastern Kentucky had higher
homicide rates than many major U.S. cities.
* Wolfe and Perry had homicide rates of 24.2 and 21.6 for every 100,000
people, higher than Philadelphia, Boston or San Francisco.
* Clay, Breathitt and Owsley had rates ranging from 21.1 to 18.6 for
every 100,000, higher than Seattle or Nashville.
* And Harlan, Estill, Knox and Lee had rates of at least 15 for every
100,000, twice the state average and greater than Columbus, Ohio;
Phoenix or San Diego.
Leslie's homicide rate, 28 for every 100,000, was the highest in
Kentucky. It was also more than three and four times that of the state's
two most urban counties, Jefferson and Fayette.
The 10 Appalachian counties listed above were among the 14 highest in
the state.
"None of this is surprising," said Ronald D. Eller, a professor of
history at the University of Kentucky and a leading Appalachian scholar.
Eastern Kentucky may be rural, but many of its problems -- high
unemployment, poor schools and, in some narrow hollows, crowded living
conditions -- are similar to those in urban areas.
BillB
Oct 12, 2012, 2:19:16 PM10/12/12
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On 10/12/2012 10:03 AM, Dave the Clueless wrote:
> Can you define "teabaggers"
Teabagger can be hard to define. It's sort of like obscenity: you'll
know it when you see it. For me, a fairly close working illustration
would be the the rightmost third of the Republican party, preferably
possessing a hillbilly pedigree and an intelligence level rivaling that
of Cro-Magnon man.
>and explain why a number of them would pose a
> threat to Biden?
Isn't that obvious? Stupidity, delusion, bitterness, extremism,
religious obsession with assault weapons, etc...
> Can you define "teabaggers"
Teabagger can be hard to define. It's sort of like obscenity: you'll
know it when you see it. For me, a fairly close working illustration
would be the the rightmost third of the Republican party, preferably
possessing a hillbilly pedigree and an intelligence level rivaling that
of Cro-Magnon man.
>and explain why a number of them would pose a
> threat to Biden?
religious obsession with assault weapons, etc...
mo_ntresor
Oct 12, 2012, 2:26:59 PM10/12/12
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On Oct 12 2012 12:08 PM, BillB wrote:
> > Define many. I found 1 that was 4.44 times 1.8 . What did I miss?
>
> For example:
>
> A review by the Lexington Herald-Leader found that Leslie and nine
> neighboring Appalachian counties in southeastern Kentucky had higher
> homicide rates than many major U.S. cities.
>
> * Wolfe and Perry had homicide rates of 24.2 and 21.6 for every 100,000
> people, higher than Philadelphia, Boston or San Francisco.
>
> * Clay, Breathitt and Owsley had rates ranging from 21.1 to 18.6 for
> every 100,000, higher than Seattle or Nashville.
>
> * And Harlan, Estill, Knox and Lee had rates of at least 15 for every
> 100,000, twice the state average and greater than Columbus, Ohio;
> Phoenix or San Diego.
>
> Leslie's homicide rate, 28 for every 100,000, was the highest in
> Kentucky. It was also more than three and four times that of the state's
> two most urban counties, Jefferson and Fayette.
>
> The 10 Appalachian counties listed above were among the 14 highest in
> the state.
>
> "None of this is surprising," said Ronald D. Eller, a professor of
> history at the University of Kentucky and a leading Appalachian scholar.
>
> Eastern Kentucky may be rural, but many of its problems -- high
> unemployment, poor schools and, in some narrow hollows, crowded living
> conditions -- are similar to those in urban areas.
why no source?
> > Define many. I found 1 that was 4.44 times 1.8 . What did I miss?
>
> For example:
>
> A review by the Lexington Herald-Leader found that Leslie and nine
> neighboring Appalachian counties in southeastern Kentucky had higher
> homicide rates than many major U.S. cities.
>
> * Wolfe and Perry had homicide rates of 24.2 and 21.6 for every 100,000
> people, higher than Philadelphia, Boston or San Francisco.
>
> * Clay, Breathitt and Owsley had rates ranging from 21.1 to 18.6 for
> every 100,000, higher than Seattle or Nashville.
>
> * And Harlan, Estill, Knox and Lee had rates of at least 15 for every
> 100,000, twice the state average and greater than Columbus, Ohio;
> Phoenix or San Diego.
>
> Leslie's homicide rate, 28 for every 100,000, was the highest in
> Kentucky. It was also more than three and four times that of the state's
> two most urban counties, Jefferson and Fayette.
>
> The 10 Appalachian counties listed above were among the 14 highest in
> the state.
>
> "None of this is surprising," said Ronald D. Eller, a professor of
> history at the University of Kentucky and a leading Appalachian scholar.
>
> Eastern Kentucky may be rural, but many of its problems -- high
> unemployment, poor schools and, in some narrow hollows, crowded living
> conditions -- are similar to those in urban areas.
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1991-06-16/news/1991167035_1_university-of-kentucky-kentucky-mountains-eastern-kentucky
of course, because you're a LYING PIECE OF SHIT (as usual). the
"statistics" are from the 80s.
mo_ntresor
BillB
Oct 12, 2012, 2:32:37 PM10/12/12
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That's part of his appeal to the working class. Major props...I know I
couldn't do it. You know what it's like, right?
BillB
Oct 12, 2012, 2:37:51 PM10/12/12
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that. It looked recent to me. I just googled "Kentucky murder rate
100000" and that was the first result. I'll try to get you more current
Leslie homicide rate, and I'll be more careful in the future.
mo_ntresor
Oct 12, 2012, 2:41:13 PM10/12/12
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On Oct 12 2012 12:32 PM, BillB wrote:
> > does biden ride the bus?
>
> I believe he is famous for riding public transit to work for years.
> That's part of his appeal to the working class. Major props...I know I
> couldn't do it. You know what it's like, right?
i rode the subway to work most days for 10+ years, i've never given less
> > does biden ride the bus?
>
> I believe he is famous for riding public transit to work for years.
> That's part of his appeal to the working class. Major props...I know I
> couldn't do it. You know what it's like, right?
than $400 a year to charity. maybe plugs could offer transportation
savings to his least favorite causes: the treasury or constituents in
need.
mo_ntresor
mo_ntresor
Oct 12, 2012, 2:43:52 PM10/12/12
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On Oct 12 2012 12:37 PM, BillB wrote:
> > why no source?
> >
> >
>
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1991-06-16/news/1991167035_1_university-of-kentucky-kentucky-mountains-eastern-kentucky
> >
> > of course, because you're a LYING PIECE OF SHIT (as usual). the
> > "statistics" are from the 80s.
>
> Oh, sorry about that, everyone (except mo). I didn't notice the date on
> that. It looked recent to me. I just googled "Kentucky murder rate
> 100000" and that was the first result. I'll try to get you more current
> Leslie homicide rate, and I'll be more careful in the future.
another lie of epic proportions, or just more cherry picked data? i'm
> > why no source?
> >
> >
>
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1991-06-16/news/1991167035_1_university-of-kentucky-kentucky-mountains-eastern-kentucky
> >
> > of course, because you're a LYING PIECE OF SHIT (as usual). the
> > "statistics" are from the 80s.
>
> Oh, sorry about that, everyone (except mo). I didn't notice the date on
> that. It looked recent to me. I just googled "Kentucky murder rate
> 100000" and that was the first result. I'll try to get you more current
> Leslie homicide rate, and I'll be more careful in the future.
trying to categorize your dishonesty, and it's getting exhausting.
mo_ntresor
brattt
Oct 12, 2012, 2:43:53 PM10/12/12
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On Oct 12 2012 1:32 PM, BillB wrote:
> That's part of his appeal to the working class.
LOL like when he hangs around Home Deport?
> That's part of his appeal to the working class.
BillB
Oct 12, 2012, 2:50:15 PM10/12/12
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On 10/12/2012 11:41 AM, mo_ntresor wrote:
> i rode the subway to work most days for 10+ years
ewww... it must suck to be poor, eh? Did you ever catch anything?
> i rode the subway to work most days for 10+ years
Rashes, herpes, etc?
mo_ntresor
Oct 12, 2012, 2:58:30 PM10/12/12
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On Oct 12 2012 12:50 PM, BillB wrote:
> > i rode the subway to work most days for 10+ years
>
> ewww... it must suck to be poor, eh? Did you ever catch anything?
> Rashes, herpes, etc?
everyone in big cities rides the subway. you should visit one.
> > i rode the subway to work most days for 10+ years
>
> ewww... it must suck to be poor, eh? Did you ever catch anything?
> Rashes, herpes, etc?
mo_ntresor
brattt
Oct 12, 2012, 3:07:04 PM10/12/12
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On Oct 12 2012 1:32 PM, BillB wrote:
> I believe he is famous for riding public transit to work for years.
> That's part of his appeal to the working class. Major props...I know I
> couldn't do it. You know what it's like, right?
Biden rode a train to work. Mo rides a train to work.
> That's part of his appeal to the working class. Major props...I know I
> couldn't do it. You know what it's like, right?
Biden good, Mo evil.
mo_ntresor
Oct 12, 2012, 3:07:38 PM10/12/12
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On Oct 12 2012 1:06 PM, Dave the Clueless wrote:
> > I believe he is famous for riding public transit to work for years.
> > That's part of his appeal to the working class. Major props...I know I
> > couldn't do it. You know what it's like, right?
>
> Got a cite for that? Famous, eh? Ought to be SOMETHING out there...
> > I believe he is famous for riding public transit to work for years.
> > That's part of his appeal to the working class. Major props...I know I
> > couldn't do it. You know what it's like, right?
>
http://thehill.com/blogs/transportation-report/public-transit/149745-biden-gets-train-station-named-in-his-honor
looks like bill got something right!
mo_ntresor
Dave the Clueless
Oct 12, 2012, 3:06:34 PM10/12/12
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Dave the Clueless
Oct 12, 2012, 3:06:14 PM10/12/12
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Got a cite for that? Famous, eh? Ought to be SOMETHING out there...
BillB
Oct 12, 2012, 3:11:44 PM10/12/12
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On 10/12/2012 11:58 AM, mo_ntresor wrote:
> everyone in big cities rides the subway.
lol...mo thinks "everyone" is poor like him.
> everyone in big cities rides the subway.
http://transportation-methods.cleantechnica.com/l/743/Chicago-Illinois
By far the most common way to get to work in Chicago is "car, truck or
van," and mo's definition of "everyone" appears to be about 25%.
mo_ntresor
Oct 12, 2012, 3:08:34 PM10/12/12
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On Oct 12 2012 1:07 PM, brattt wrote:
> > I believe he is famous for riding public transit to work for years.
> > That's part of his appeal to the working class. Major props...I know I
> > couldn't do it. You know what it's like, right?
>
> Biden rode a train to work. Mo rides a train to work.
>
> Biden good, Mo evil.
everybody in chicago rides trains to work, but the poor denominators ...
> > I believe he is famous for riding public transit to work for years.
> > That's part of his appeal to the working class. Major props...I know I
> > couldn't do it. You know what it's like, right?
>
> Biden rode a train to work. Mo rides a train to work.
>
> Biden good, Mo evil.
they ride buses.
mo_ntresor
mo_ntresor
Oct 12, 2012, 3:20:07 PM10/12/12
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mo_ntresor
brattt
Oct 12, 2012, 3:32:42 PM10/12/12
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On Oct 12 2012 2:06 PM, Dave the Clueless wrote:
> On Oct 12 2012 3:32 PM, BillB wrote:
>
> > On 10/12/2012 9:14 AM, mo_ntresor wrote:
> > > On Oct 12 2012 10:02 AM, Puppytoes wrote:
> > >
> > >>> It's true. There are very few teabaggers in Vancouver. Biden would be
> > >>> very safe here, so long as he doesn't get involved in any
hockey-related
> > >>> disturbances.
> > >>
> > >> He would be very safe as long as he didn't step outside your apartment
> > >> building with the broken intercom where the streets thugs hang out!!
> > >
> > > does biden ride the bus?
> >
> > I believe he is famous for riding public transit to work for years.
> > That's part of his appeal to the working class. Major props...I know I
> > couldn't do it. You know what it's like, right?
>
> Got a cite for that? Famous, eh? Ought to be SOMETHING out there...
He did - he rode a train. Mo rides a train too. hmmmmmmmmmmmm
> On Oct 12 2012 3:32 PM, BillB wrote:
>
> > On 10/12/2012 9:14 AM, mo_ntresor wrote:
> > > On Oct 12 2012 10:02 AM, Puppytoes wrote:
> > >
> > >>> It's true. There are very few teabaggers in Vancouver. Biden would be
> > >>> very safe here, so long as he doesn't get involved in any
hockey-related
> > >>> disturbances.
> > >>
> > >> He would be very safe as long as he didn't step outside your apartment
> > >> building with the broken intercom where the streets thugs hang out!!
> > >
> > > does biden ride the bus?
> >
> > I believe he is famous for riding public transit to work for years.
> > That's part of his appeal to the working class. Major props...I know I
> > couldn't do it. You know what it's like, right?
>
> Got a cite for that? Famous, eh? Ought to be SOMETHING out there...
BillB
Oct 12, 2012, 3:45:00 PM10/12/12
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Right out of the popinjay playbook. lol
Who exactly did you think were in all those cars, you mo_ron?
mo_ntresor
Oct 12, 2012, 4:04:11 PM10/12/12
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On Oct 12 2012 1:45 PM, BillB wrote:
> > you know nothing about chicago. please stop embarrassing yourself.
>
> > you know nothing about chicago. please stop embarrassing yourself.
>
> "The statistics are lying! I live here!!"
>
> Right out of the popinjay playbook. lol
>
> Who exactly did you think were in all those cars, you mo_ron?
city not metro, dunce. i work in chicago doesn't mean i work in gray's
>
> Right out of the popinjay playbook. lol
>
> Who exactly did you think were in all those cars, you mo_ron?
lake to anybody but an idiot cannuck who's clueless.
please, stop embarrassing yourself.
mo_ntresor
brattt
Oct 12, 2012, 4:14:28 PM10/12/12
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On Oct 12 2012 1:32 PM, BillB wrote:
> > does biden ride the bus?
>
> I believe he is famous for riding public transit to work for years.
to quote YOU
> > does biden ride the bus?
>
> I believe he is famous for riding public transit to work for years.
"ewww... it must suck to be poor, eh? Did you ever catch anything?
Rashes, herpes, etc?"
BillB
Oct 12, 2012, 4:24:49 PM10/12/12
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No mo, not "EVERYONE" takes public transit to work in Chicago. It is a
solid minority, and you are a fool. But hey, what am I saying? If you
need to believe that to feel better about your station in life, go right
ahead.
Hear that everyone? From now on, when you are talking to mo here on RGP,
please pretend that everyone in Chicago takes public transit to work.
It's very important for his self-esteem. Thank you for your cooperation.
mo_ntresor
Oct 12, 2012, 4:40:43 PM10/12/12
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On Oct 12 2012 2:24 PM, BillB wrote:
> > city not metro, dunce. i work in chicago doesn't mean i work in gray's
> > lake to anybody but an idiot cannuck who's clueless.
> >
> > please, stop embarrassing yourself.
>
> > city not metro, dunce. i work in chicago doesn't mean i work in gray's
> > lake to anybody but an idiot cannuck who's clueless.
> >
> > please, stop embarrassing yourself.
>
> more gibberish.
>
> No mo, not "EVERYONE" takes public transit to work in Chicago. It is a
> solid minority, and you are a fool. But hey, what am I saying? If you
> need to believe that to feel better about your station in life, go right
> ahead.
>
> Hear that everyone? From now on, when you are talking to mo here on RGP,
> please pretend that everyone in Chicago takes public transit to work.
> It's very important for his self-esteem. Thank you for your cooperation.
you thought "everyone" was meant literally? LOL!!
>
> No mo, not "EVERYONE" takes public transit to work in Chicago. It is a
> solid minority, and you are a fool. But hey, what am I saying? If you
> need to believe that to feel better about your station in life, go right
> ahead.
>
> Hear that everyone? From now on, when you are talking to mo here on RGP,
> please pretend that everyone in Chicago takes public transit to work.
> It's very important for his self-esteem. Thank you for your cooperation.
mo_ntresor
brattt
Oct 12, 2012, 4:44:02 PM10/12/12
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On Oct 12 2012 3:24 PM, BillB wrote:
> Hear that everyone? From now on, when you are talking to mo here on RGP,
> please pretend that everyone in Chicago takes public transit to work.
> It's very important for his self-esteem. Thank you for your cooperation.
Hear that everyone? From now on, when you or anyone else (including VP
> Hear that everyone? From now on, when you are talking to mo here on RGP,
> please pretend that everyone in Chicago takes public transit to work.
> It's very important for his self-esteem. Thank you for your cooperation.
Joe Biden) is taking public transit to work is poor and subject to skin
diseases and other crawlie things.
BillB
Oct 12, 2012, 4:49:50 PM10/12/12
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I need to correct myself though. You didn't say "everyone" rides public
transit to work. You said "everyone" rides the subway. The 25% statistic
I quoted include ALL forms of public transportation. Obviously, the
subway riders will be some fraction of that.
BillB
Oct 12, 2012, 5:01:05 PM10/12/12
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On 10/12/2012 1:44 PM, brattt wrote:
> On Oct 12 2012 3:24 PM, BillB wrote:
>
>> Hear that everyone? From now on, when you are talking to mo here on RGP,
>> please pretend that everyone in Chicago takes public transit to work.
>> It's very important for his self-esteem. Thank you for your cooperation.
>
> Hear that everyone? From now on, when you or anyone else (including VP
> Joe Biden) is taking public transit to work is poor
When did I say that? More susan lying.
> On Oct 12 2012 3:24 PM, BillB wrote:
>
>> Hear that everyone? From now on, when you are talking to mo here on RGP,
>> please pretend that everyone in Chicago takes public transit to work.
>> It's very important for his self-esteem. Thank you for your cooperation.
>
> Hear that everyone? From now on, when you or anyone else (including VP
> Joe Biden) is taking public transit to work is poor
It goes without saying, but if a statement being attributed to me is
absurd on its face, then I never said it. I don't make ridiculous
statements (for example, like mo saying everyone in Chicago takes the
subway to work). I'd rather not look like a fool. Some people don't seem
to mind.
and subject to skin
> diseases and other crawlie things.
http://emedicinelive.com/medical-news/16-infectious-diseases/81-public-transport-a-major-risk-factor-in-transmission-of-viral-infections
mo_ntresor
Oct 12, 2012, 5:00:59 PM10/12/12
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On Oct 12 2012 2:49 PM, BillB wrote:
> > you thought "everyone" was meant literally? LOL!!
>
> What percentage does "everyone" mean to someone like you?
>
> I need to correct myself though. You didn't say "everyone" rides public
> transit to work. You said "everyone" rides the subway. The 25% statistic
> I quoted include ALL forms of public transportation. Obviously, the
> subway riders will be some fraction of that.
yep, denominator thinks it was meant literally!
> > you thought "everyone" was meant literally? LOL!!
>
> What percentage does "everyone" mean to someone like you?
>
> I need to correct myself though. You didn't say "everyone" rides public
> transit to work. You said "everyone" rides the subway. The 25% statistic
> I quoted include ALL forms of public transportation. Obviously, the
> subway riders will be some fraction of that.
mo_ntresor
BillB
Oct 12, 2012, 5:10:47 PM10/12/12
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running out of passengers. Over the past 20 years, the CTA has lost more
than one-quarter of its ridership. As a result, the public subsidy per
rider has risen at least 20 percent, after adjustment for inflation."
LOL! Arithmetic question: "everyone" - 25% = ?
So you took advantage of the government transportation subsidy for ten
years, eh? Who would have guessed mo is a good little hypocrite??
brattt
Oct 12, 2012, 5:11:51 PM10/12/12
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link
BillB
Oct 12, 2012, 5:24:35 PM10/12/12
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On 10/12/2012 2:11 PM, brattt wrote:
> http://emedicinelive.com/medical-news/16-infectious-diseases/81-public-transport-a-major-risk-factor-in-transmission-of-viral-infections
>
> ooooooooooo Joe Biden better watch out Maybe you should send him that
> link
I believe Joe took Amtrak. I don't have any personal experience with
> http://emedicinelive.com/medical-news/16-infectious-diseases/81-public-transport-a-major-risk-factor-in-transmission-of-viral-infections
>
> ooooooooooo Joe Biden better watch out Maybe you should send him that
> link
Amtrak, but any rail service with $16 hamburgers is bound to have a much
higher class of ridership than the Chicago subway system. Let's try to
keep it real.
Have you ever seen the Chicago subway system? It's disgusting!
You should see Vancouver's SkyTrain system. Now there's a 21st century
rapid transit system for you. Completely different league.
BillB
Oct 12, 2012, 7:51:29 PM10/12/12
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On 10/12/2012 12:07 PM, brattt wrote:
> On Oct 12 2012 1:32 PM, BillB wrote:
>
>> I believe he is famous for riding public transit to work for years.
>> That's part of his appeal to the working class. Major props...I know I
>> couldn't do it. You know what it's like, right?
>
> Biden rode a train to work. Mo rides a train to work.
>
> Biden good, Mo evil.
I didn't say mo was evil for using government subsidized public transit
> On Oct 12 2012 1:32 PM, BillB wrote:
>
>> I believe he is famous for riding public transit to work for years.
>> That's part of his appeal to the working class. Major props...I know I
>> couldn't do it. You know what it's like, right?
>
> Biden rode a train to work. Mo rides a train to work.
>
> Biden good, Mo evil.
to get to work. It does make him a hypocrite, of course, but evil? Where
did you get that from?
What makes you and mo and the others evil, above all other things, is
the wish to deprive poor people to the same access to health care as the
middle class -- all because you think it *might* save you a few pennies
on your tax bill (it won't). Yes, I consider that evil to the core.
bub
Oct 12, 2012, 8:09:04 PM10/12/12
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On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 08:26:20 -0700, "brattt" <af3...@webnntp.invalid>
wrote:
>Biden's security team for his dangerous debate mission in Kentucky was 100
>times what Libyan Ambassador Stevens got.
>
"Ambassador Chris Stevens did not have a Marine detail in Benghazi,
Libya. But White House Senior Advisor and Obama confidante Valerie
Jarrett has a full Secret Service detail on vacation in Martha�s
Vineyard, according to Democratic pollster Pat Caddell."
wrote:
>Biden's security team for his dangerous debate mission in Kentucky was 100
>times what Libyan Ambassador Stevens got.
>
"Ambassador Chris Stevens did not have a Marine detail in Benghazi,
Libya. But White House Senior Advisor and Obama confidante Valerie
Jarrett has a full Secret Service detail on vacation in Martha�s
Vineyard, according to Democratic pollster Pat Caddell."
Puppytoes
Oct 12, 2012, 11:09:45 PM10/12/12
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On Oct 12 2012 10:54 AM, brattt wrote:
> On Oct 12 2012 12:25 PM, buffalomacle wrote:
> > to spend 911 a mile down the road?
>
> So now it's Stevens fault he was killed?
>
> abcnews.go.com › International
>
> On Sept. 11, Stevens did not leave the compound because of security fears
> due to the 9/11 anniversary. He had arrived in Benghazi the day before
> with five guards in total. Two additional Diplomatic Security agents from
> Tripoli were with him in addition to the three agents normally detailed to
> the compound.
>
> Though some administration officials had initially said that the attack
> grew out of protests over an anti-Muslim film, the senior State Department
> official told reporters today that "nothing was out of the ordinary" on
> the night of the attack.
>
> At 8:30 p.m., the ambassador said goodnight to a visiting Turkish diplomat
> outside the compound and the streets were empty. But at 9:40 p.m., noises,
> gunfire and an explosion were heard by the agents located in the TOC and
> Building B.
keeps changing! What a bunch of CYA BS. This should sink the empty suit!
> On Oct 12 2012 12:25 PM, buffalomacle wrote:
>
> > On Friday, October 12, 2012 10:28:29 AM UTC-5, brattt wrote:
> > > Biden's security team for his dangerous debate mission in Kentucky was
100
> times what Libyan
> > Ambassador Stevens got.
> > On Friday, October 12, 2012 10:28:29 AM UTC-5, brattt wrote:
> > > Biden's security team for his dangerous debate mission in Kentucky was
100
> times what Libyan
> > Ambassador Stevens got.
> --------------------------------------------------------------- Assistant
> > Newsgroup Coordinator, rec.gambling.poker Whose stated mission is to call
> out the Asses on RGP
> >
> > why did Stevens leave the 100 plus guarded compound
> > Newsgroup Coordinator, rec.gambling.poker Whose stated mission is to call
> out the Asses on RGP
> >
> > to spend 911 a mile down the road?
>
> So now it's Stevens fault he was killed?
>
> abcnews.go.com › International
>
> On Sept. 11, Stevens did not leave the compound because of security fears
> due to the 9/11 anniversary. He had arrived in Benghazi the day before
> with five guards in total. Two additional Diplomatic Security agents from
> Tripoli were with him in addition to the three agents normally detailed to
> the compound.
>
> Though some administration officials had initially said that the attack
> grew out of protests over an anti-Muslim film, the senior State Department
> official told reporters today that "nothing was out of the ordinary" on
> the night of the attack.
>
> At 8:30 p.m., the ambassador said goodnight to a visiting Turkish diplomat
> outside the compound and the streets were empty. But at 9:40 p.m., noises,
> gunfire and an explosion were heard by the agents located in the TOC and
> Building B.
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Assistant Newsgroup Coordinator, rec.gambling.poker
> Whose stated mission is to call out the Asses on RGP
I'm getting a headache ... is it Stevens' fault or Rommey's fault? It
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Assistant Newsgroup Coordinator, rec.gambling.poker
> Whose stated mission is to call out the Asses on RGP
keeps changing! What a bunch of CYA BS. This should sink the empty suit!
mo_ntresor
Oct 13, 2012, 9:12:55 AM10/13/12
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ticketing, repairing. that's the gravy for cta -- there's zero incentive
to innovate or improve and all the incentive in the world to keep
denominators earning ridiculous wages and pensions.
are you staring to see how this works?
mo_ntresor
mo_ntresor
Oct 13, 2012, 9:09:04 AM10/13/12
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On Oct 12 2012 3:10 PM, BillB wrote:
> > yep, denominator thinks it was meant literally!
>
> "The CTA is not exactly running out of money ... but it is on its way to
> running out of passengers. Over the past 20 years, the CTA has lost more
> than one-quarter of its ridership. As a result, the public subsidy per
> rider has risen at least 20 percent, after adjustment for inflation."
>
> LOL! Arithmetic question: "everyone" - 25% = ?
>
> So you took advantage of the government transportation subsidy for ten
> years, eh? Who would have guessed mo is a good little hypocrite??
the cta loses ridership as it cut less used lines to pay pensions, but
> > yep, denominator thinks it was meant literally!
>
> "The CTA is not exactly running out of money ... but it is on its way to
> running out of passengers. Over the past 20 years, the CTA has lost more
> than one-quarter of its ridership. As a result, the public subsidy per
> rider has risen at least 20 percent, after adjustment for inflation."
>
> LOL! Arithmetic question: "everyone" - 25% = ?
>
> So you took advantage of the government transportation subsidy for ten
> years, eh? Who would have guessed mo is a good little hypocrite??
nobody who rides the subway/metra consistently is thinking about stopping.
it's a goldmine (like parking meters and lottery the democrat fools
sold), and the unions are picking it clean. voters here can't think and
they sure as fuck can't do math. we're in the bag for denominator fools
who will spend the nation into oblivion.
you're out of your league talking chicago. this city's the democrat dump
of the future. it represents the certain future given spending and
entitlement projections. it's all preventable, but we have to elect guys
like romney and ryan. when we're fat and healthy again, denominators can
start picking it clean.
mo_ntresor
mo_ntresor
Oct 13, 2012, 9:13:42 AM10/13/12
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On Oct 12 2012 5:51 PM, BillB wrote:
> > Biden rode a train to work. Mo rides a train to work.
> >
> > Biden good, Mo evil.
>
> I didn't say mo was evil for using government subsidized public transit
> to get to work. It does make him a hypocrite, of course, but evil? Where
> did you get that from?
>
> What makes you and mo and the others evil, above all other things, is
> the wish to deprive poor people to the same access to health care as the
> middle class -- all because you think it *might* save you a few pennies
> on your tax bill (it won't). Yes, I consider that evil to the core.
WHOOOooopp whooOOOOpppp
> > Biden rode a train to work. Mo rides a train to work.
> >
> > Biden good, Mo evil.
>
> I didn't say mo was evil for using government subsidized public transit
> to get to work. It does make him a hypocrite, of course, but evil? Where
> did you get that from?
>
> What makes you and mo and the others evil, above all other things, is
> the wish to deprive poor people to the same access to health care as the
> middle class -- all because you think it *might* save you a few pennies
> on your tax bill (it won't). Yes, I consider that evil to the core.
STRAWMAN ALERT
STRAWMAN ALERT!!!
mo_ntresor
BillB
Oct 13, 2012, 11:05:25 AM10/13/12
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buffalo
Oct 13, 2012, 11:19:07 AM10/13/12
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a mile away, known as the "annex," arrived at the compound with 16
members of the local Libyan militia, the 17th of February Brigade
( 100 plus back at annex ).
mo_ntresor
Oct 13, 2012, 11:22:52 AM10/13/12
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On Oct 13 2012 9:05 AM, BillB wrote:
> >> I didn't say mo was evil for using government subsidized public transit
> >> to get to work. It does make him a hypocrite, of course, but evil? Where
> >> did you get that from?
> >>
> >> What makes you and mo and the others evil, above all other things, is
> >> the wish to deprive poor people to the same access to health care as the
> >> middle class -- all because you think it *might* save you a few pennies
> >> on your tax bill (it won't). Yes, I consider that evil to the core.
> >
> > WHOOOooopp whooOOOOpppp
> > STRAWMAN ALERT
> > STRAWMAN ALERT!!!
>
> >> I didn't say mo was evil for using government subsidized public transit
> >> to get to work. It does make him a hypocrite, of course, but evil? Where
> >> did you get that from?
> >>
> >> What makes you and mo and the others evil, above all other things, is
> >> the wish to deprive poor people to the same access to health care as the
> >> middle class -- all because you think it *might* save you a few pennies
> >> on your tax bill (it won't). Yes, I consider that evil to the core.
> >
> > WHOOOooopp whooOOOOpppp
> > STRAWMAN ALERT
> > STRAWMAN ALERT!!!
>
> **sigh** Nope, not a strawman. Keep studying. You'll get there.
before you misrepresented a position, you misunderstood it. clearly not a
strawman.
mo_ntresor
BillB
Oct 13, 2012, 11:29:44 AM10/13/12
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mental block on this subject. I am assuming you've never taken a course
in logic or critical thinking? I'll try to keep it as simple as I can.
Quote for us, 1) The original argument made 2) my misrepresentation of
the original argument 3) my argument against the misrepresentation.
Those are the essential elements of a strawman fallacy. Good luck.
VegasJerry
Oct 13, 2012, 11:31:23 AM10/13/12
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Give it up, wing-nuts, the White House is not responsible for additional security assignments of security personal at diplomatic facilities. That's the job of the State Department. Before you pull your fingers from your collective noses and pointthem toward Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, you should also become aware that intelligence officials are finding new evidence that the attack at Benghazi was, indeed, spontaneous.
See what a thorough investigation will do? And it's not over yet. Why are you against a thorough investigation? (Note to sS: that's a question).
Jerry 'n Vegas
mo_ntresor
Oct 13, 2012, 11:44:18 AM10/13/12
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On Oct 13 2012 9:29 AM, BillB wrote:
> > before you misrepresented a position, you misunderstood it. clearly not a
> > strawman.
>
> > before you misrepresented a position, you misunderstood it. clearly not a
> > strawman.
>
> Let me try to help you work through this, because you clearly have a
> mental block on this subject. I am assuming you've never taken a course
> in logic or critical thinking? I'll try to keep it as simple as I can.
>
> Quote for us, 1) The original argument made 2) my misrepresentation of
> the original argument 3) my argument against the misrepresentation.
>
> Those are the essential elements of a strawman fallacy. Good luck.
you're correct. i believe the complexity demanded of a strawman user may
> mental block on this subject. I am assuming you've never taken a course
> in logic or critical thinking? I'll try to keep it as simple as I can.
>
> Quote for us, 1) The original argument made 2) my misrepresentation of
> the original argument 3) my argument against the misrepresentation.
>
> Those are the essential elements of a strawman fallacy. Good luck.
be beyond your limited abilities. may i suggest a new name for a billb
attempted strawman? how about: idiotman. is that more suitable?
mo_ntresor
BillB
Oct 13, 2012, 12:07:59 PM10/13/12
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understand in an attempt to sound intelligent. It makes you look like
more of a fool than you already do.
For today's lesson, please memorize the essential elements of a strawman
fallacy. It requires that a person misrepresents another person's
argument by stating it as something it wasn't, and then arguing against
the misrepresentation.
It is something I virtually NEVER do, because I am master debater. I can
destroy every argument you throw at me, so why would I bother with the
extra step? The LAST thing I *need* to misrepresent your idiotic
arguments and those of your ilk.
mo_ntresor
Oct 13, 2012, 12:32:33 PM10/13/12
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On Oct 13 2012 10:07 AM, BillB wrote:
> >> Quote for us, 1) The original argument made 2) my misrepresentation of
> >> the original argument 3) my argument against the misrepresentation.
> >>
> >> Those are the essential elements of a strawman fallacy. Good luck.
> >
> > you're correct. i believe the complexity demanded of a strawman user may
> > be beyond your limited abilities. may i suggest a new name for a billb
> > attempted strawman? how about: idiotman. is that more suitable?
>
> >> Quote for us, 1) The original argument made 2) my misrepresentation of
> >> the original argument 3) my argument against the misrepresentation.
> >>
> >> Those are the essential elements of a strawman fallacy. Good luck.
> >
> > you're correct. i believe the complexity demanded of a strawman user may
> > be beyond your limited abilities. may i suggest a new name for a billb
> > attempted strawman? how about: idiotman. is that more suitable?
>
> What would be suitable is for you to stop using terms you clearly don't
> understand in an attempt to sound intelligent. It makes you look like
> more of a fool than you already do.
>
> For today's lesson, please memorize the essential elements of a strawman
> fallacy. It requires that a person misrepresents another person's
> argument by stating it as something it wasn't, and then arguing against
> the misrepresentation.
>
> It is something I virtually NEVER do, because I am master debater. I can
> destroy every argument you throw at me, so why would I bother with the
> extra step? The LAST thing I *need* to misrepresent your idiotic
> arguments and those of your ilk.
essential element of an idiotman:
> understand in an attempt to sound intelligent. It makes you look like
> more of a fool than you already do.
>
> For today's lesson, please memorize the essential elements of a strawman
> fallacy. It requires that a person misrepresents another person's
> argument by stating it as something it wasn't, and then arguing against
> the misrepresentation.
>
> It is something I virtually NEVER do, because I am master debater. I can
> destroy every argument you throw at me, so why would I bother with the
> extra step? The LAST thing I *need* to misrepresent your idiotic
> arguments and those of your ilk.
accurately represent your sub-moronic understanding of another's position:
"[YOU] wish to deprive poor people to the same access to health care as
the middle class -- all because you think it *might* save you a few
pennies on your tax bill."
mo_ntresor
BillB
Oct 13, 2012, 12:41:07 PM10/13/12
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On 10/13/2012 9:32 AM, mo_ntresor wrote:
> accurately represent your sub-moronic understanding of another's position:
> "[YOU] wish to deprive poor people to the same access to health care as
> the middle class -- all because you think it *might* save you a few
> pennies on your tax bill."
You are the sub-moron. susan wouldn't mind if poor people got proper
> accurately represent your sub-moronic understanding of another's position:
> "[YOU] wish to deprive poor people to the same access to health care as
> the middle class -- all because you think it *might* save you a few
> pennies on your tax bill."
health care AT ALL if it made her money. She'd be waiting at the mailbox
for the check to arrive. Don't try to bullshit me. This is all about
people worrying that "it might cost me something!"
If you aren't willing to sacrifice a few pennies (or make similarly
insignificant concessions) to make sure the medical needs of ALL the
members of your community are taken care of, then a big fuck you. You
and I will never get along.
mo_ntresor
Oct 13, 2012, 12:51:42 PM10/13/12
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congratulations.
mo_ntresor
BillB
Oct 13, 2012, 12:57:53 PM10/13/12
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On 10/13/2012 9:51 AM, mo_ntresor wrote:
> the essential element is met: you've achieved an idiotman!
> congratulations.
Yes, and you prove how intelligent you are with posts like this. I
> the essential element is met: you've achieved an idiotman!
> congratulations.
suppose that's what you think?
You have nothing.
brattt
Oct 13, 2012, 1:00:00 PM10/13/12
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BillB
Oct 13, 2012, 1:18:21 PM10/13/12
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On 10/13/2012 10:00 AM, brattt wrote:
> he will never understand Mo -
No? Maybe try explaining it to me in a way even a five year old could
> he will never understand Mo -
understand. It must be all the big words you are using.
Why shouldn't every citizen in a wealthy country have a right to quality
health care, as expressed in the UDHR and the ICESCR?
Puppytoes
Oct 13, 2012, 2:22:45 PM10/13/12
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case that spontaneous stuff happens. Don't trot this nonsense out again.
BillB
Oct 13, 2012, 3:16:54 PM10/13/12
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Are you sure it's a case of me not being able to understand? It looks
more like a case of you being unable to explain it.
Beldin the Sorcerer
Oct 13, 2012, 7:12:51 PM10/13/12
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And nobody does in the US.
Foodstamps help poor people feed their families.
We don't open the supermarkets to everyone, free.
Housing vouchers help the poor make rent
We don't let people move into any house they want.
BillB
Oct 13, 2012, 7:18:45 PM10/13/12
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On 10/13/2012 4:12 PM, Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:
> BillB wrote:
>> On 10/13/2012 10:00 AM, brattt wrote:
>>
>>> he will never understand Mo -
>>
>> No? Maybe try explaining it to me in a way even a five year old could
>> understand. It must be all the big words you are using.
>>
>> Why shouldn't every citizen in a wealthy country have a right to
>> quality health care, as expressed in the UDHR and the ICESCR?
> Because nobody should have a right to unlimited free stuff
Go away. Nothing in those documents calls for "unlimited free stuff."
> BillB wrote:
>> On 10/13/2012 10:00 AM, brattt wrote:
>>
>>> he will never understand Mo -
>>
>> No? Maybe try explaining it to me in a way even a five year old could
>> understand. It must be all the big words you are using.
>>
>> Why shouldn't every citizen in a wealthy country have a right to
>> quality health care, as expressed in the UDHR and the ICESCR?
> Because nobody should have a right to unlimited free stuff
Come back when you want to talk like a serious person.
Dutch
Oct 13, 2012, 8:07:37 PM10/13/12
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commodity. Protection from threats to your life or well-being through
bad health or injury are seen as a basic entitlement of every citizen,
like protection from harm by attacks by criminals, malicious or
negligent business practices, or foreign powers. The U.S. is currently
stuck in a not-very-coherent half-way world between "fuck you, you're on
you're own" and "we have each others' backs on this". To say that
half-assed health care is good enough poor people, which is what your
position amounts to, is seen as a despicable idea elsewhere.
You ought to start at everyone pulling together to take care of
everyone's basic health and safety then compete from there.
<insert tired, predictable Beldinism>
brattt
Oct 13, 2012, 8:08:09 PM10/13/12
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On Oct 13 2012 6:12 PM, Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:
Beldin - I would have thought you knew by now. When B-BillB asks a
question, there is NO answer that he will not mock and call you stupid
UNLESS you copy and paste something he said earlier (unless of course he
forgot he said it) If that's the case he will take you to task for it
anyways.
Beldin - I would have thought you knew by now. When B-BillB asks a
question, there is NO answer that he will not mock and call you stupid
UNLESS you copy and paste something he said earlier (unless of course he
forgot he said it) If that's the case he will take you to task for it
anyways.
Dutch
Oct 13, 2012, 8:13:09 PM10/13/12
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brattt wrote:
> On Oct 13 2012 6:12 PM, Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:
>
> Beldin - I would have thought you knew by now. When B-BillB asks a
> question, there is NO answer that he will not mock and call you stupid
> UNLESS you copy and paste something he said earlier (unless of course he
> forgot he said it) If that's the case he will take you to task for it
> anyways.
Beldin doesn't need your advice, if what anyone says doesn't match one
> On Oct 13 2012 6:12 PM, Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:
>
> Beldin - I would have thought you knew by now. When B-BillB asks a
> question, there is NO answer that he will not mock and call you stupid
> UNLESS you copy and paste something he said earlier (unless of course he
> forgot he said it) If that's the case he will take you to task for it
> anyways.
of his preconceptions he'll just call them a shithead and declare victory.
Beldin the Sorcerer
Oct 13, 2012, 8:17:23 PM10/13/12
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Dutch wrote:
> Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:
>> BillB wrote:
>>> On 10/13/2012 10:00 AM, brattt wrote:
>>>
>>>> he will never understand Mo -
>>>
>>> No? Maybe try explaining it to me in a way even a five year old
>>> could understand. It must be all the big words you are using.
>>>
>>> Why shouldn't every citizen in a wealthy country have a right to
>>> quality health care, as expressed in the UDHR and the ICESCR?
>> Because nobody should have a right to unlimited free stuff
>>
>> And nobody does in the US.
>> Foodstamps help poor people feed their families.
>> We don't open the supermarkets to everyone, free.
>>
>> Housing vouchers help the poor make rent
>> We don't let people move into any house they want.
>
> In most civilized societies medical care is not viewed as just another
> commodity.
Which is why they're broke
> Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:
>> BillB wrote:
>>> On 10/13/2012 10:00 AM, brattt wrote:
>>>
>>>> he will never understand Mo -
>>>
>>> No? Maybe try explaining it to me in a way even a five year old
>>> could understand. It must be all the big words you are using.
>>>
>>> Why shouldn't every citizen in a wealthy country have a right to
>>> quality health care, as expressed in the UDHR and the ICESCR?
>> Because nobody should have a right to unlimited free stuff
>>
>> And nobody does in the US.
>> Foodstamps help poor people feed their families.
>> We don't open the supermarkets to everyone, free.
>>
>> Housing vouchers help the poor make rent
>> We don't let people move into any house they want.
>
> In most civilized societies medical care is not viewed as just another
> commodity.
Beldin the Sorcerer
Oct 14, 2012, 2:03:44 AM10/14/12
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BillB
Oct 14, 2012, 3:32:34 AM10/14/12
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On 10/13/2012 11:03 PM, Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:
>> Go away. Nothing in those documents calls for "unlimited free stuff."
>> Come back when you want to talk like a serious person.
>
> Show me in those documents where a person's right to health care is capped
Sure, as soon as you show me where your right to counsel is capped in
>> Go away. Nothing in those documents calls for "unlimited free stuff."
>> Come back when you want to talk like a serious person.
>
> Show me in those documents where a person's right to health care is capped
the Miranda warning.
I just double-checked. Nope, no cap mentioned. That means you can demand
a 100 hour consultation Alan Dershowitz prior to questioning, right?
What part of "come back when you want to talk like a serious person" did
you fail to comprehend?
Beldin the Sorcerer
Oct 14, 2012, 3:59:19 AM10/14/12
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not shit you WANT
It is NOT remotely comperable, YOU ASSHOLE
Clave
Oct 14, 2012, 4:10:03 AM10/14/12
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"BillB" <bo...@shaw1.ca> wrote in message
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Jim
Clave
Oct 14, 2012, 4:11:51 AM10/14/12
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Jim
BillB
Oct 14, 2012, 4:26:24 AM10/14/12
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advantage right from birth onward -- white, male, American, heterosexual
(presumably), upper-middle class parents, 66 IQ, college education, blue
state, etc. -- ended up in middle age living in a ramshackle house under
a smokestack in a crappy little town, with an obese girlfriend, Captain
Highliner furniture and a wizard collection, enduring a long commute in
a POS car to a night shift job in a fucking grocery store? Do you think
it might have more to do with your complete lack of common sense, or
your repulsive personality, or is it really a fairly equal combination
of both?
Beldin the Sorcerer
Oct 14, 2012, 4:43:50 AM10/14/12
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In the real world, he's a fucking idiot for suggesting the right to be
defended when the government charges you with a crime is remotely the same
as a right to a productr
Beldin the Sorcerer
Oct 14, 2012, 4:45:59 AM10/14/12
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job, what I mostly wonder is how your head feels shoved up your ass like
that
Your analogy doesn't work, asshole.
Being provided a defense because you are forced to go to court isn't the
same as health care.
there is no right to legal council in a civil trial, just to drive the point
further up your idiot ass
BillB
Oct 14, 2012, 4:49:37 AM10/14/12
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On 10/14/2012 1:26 AM, BillB wrote:
> Did you ever wonder why a guy like you, who had almost every conceivable
> advantage right from birth onward -- white, male, American, heterosexual
> (presumably), upper-middle class parents, 66 IQ, college education, blue
> state, etc. -- ended up in middle age living in a ramshackle house under
> a smokestack in a crappy little town, with an obese girlfriend, Captain
> Highliner furniture and a wizard collection, enduring a long commute in
> a POS car to a night shift job in a fucking grocery store? Do you think
> it might have more to do with your complete lack of common sense, or
> your repulsive personality, or is it really a fairly equal combination
> of both?
By the way, when Ramashiva posted the name of your store where you work,
> Did you ever wonder why a guy like you, who had almost every conceivable
> advantage right from birth onward -- white, male, American, heterosexual
> (presumably), upper-middle class parents, 66 IQ, college education, blue
> state, etc. -- ended up in middle age living in a ramshackle house under
> a smokestack in a crappy little town, with an obese girlfriend, Captain
> Highliner furniture and a wizard collection, enduring a long commute in
> a POS car to a night shift job in a fucking grocery store? Do you think
> it might have more to do with your complete lack of common sense, or
> your repulsive personality, or is it really a fairly equal combination
> of both?
I googled it. I saw that newspaper article with a picture of your boss
and the retarded kid you two boss around. I laughed so fucking hard.
Chain of Command at Beldin's store:
Manager => Assistant Manager ==> Cashier ==> Beldin ==> Retarded kid
Clave
Oct 14, 2012, 5:03:37 AM10/14/12
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LOL -- you don't think your response was a bit of an overreaction?
The severity of your knee jerks is *ALWAYS* in direct proportion to the red
that's just been applied to your ass.
Ask anyone.
Jim
> Clave wrote:
>> "Beldin the Sorcerer" <Beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:k5drco$pk5$1...@dont-email.me...
>>> BillB wrote:
>>>> On 10/13/2012 11:03 PM, Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Go away. Nothing in those documents calls for "unlimited free
>>>>>> stuff." Come back when you want to talk like a serious person.
>>>>>
>>>>> Show me in those documents where a person's right to health care is
>>>>> capped
>>>>
>>>> Sure, as soon as you show me where your right to counsel is capped
>>>> in the Miranda warning.
>>>>
>>>> I just double-checked. Nope, no cap mentioned. That means you can
>>>> demand a 100 hour consultation Alan Dershowitz prior to questioning,
>>>> right?
>>>> What part of "come back when you want to talk like a serious person"
>>>> did you fail to comprehend?
>>>
>>> Fuckhead (and you are one) miranda only applies to CRIMINAL
>>> proceedings.... not shit you WANT
>>>
>>> It is NOT remotely comperable, YOU ASSHOLE
>>
>> You got spanked.
>
> In your gay fantasies only...
>> "Beldin the Sorcerer" <Beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:k5drco$pk5$1...@dont-email.me...
>>> BillB wrote:
>>>> On 10/13/2012 11:03 PM, Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Go away. Nothing in those documents calls for "unlimited free
>>>>>> stuff." Come back when you want to talk like a serious person.
>>>>>
>>>>> Show me in those documents where a person's right to health care is
>>>>> capped
>>>>
>>>> Sure, as soon as you show me where your right to counsel is capped
>>>> in the Miranda warning.
>>>>
>>>> I just double-checked. Nope, no cap mentioned. That means you can
>>>> demand a 100 hour consultation Alan Dershowitz prior to questioning,
>>>> right?
>>>> What part of "come back when you want to talk like a serious person"
>>>> did you fail to comprehend?
>>>
>>> Fuckhead (and you are one) miranda only applies to CRIMINAL
>>> proceedings.... not shit you WANT
>>>
>>> It is NOT remotely comperable, YOU ASSHOLE
>>
>> You got spanked.
>
LOL -- you don't think your response was a bit of an overreaction?
The severity of your knee jerks is *ALWAYS* in direct proportion to the red
that's just been applied to your ass.
Ask anyone.
Jim
BillB
Oct 14, 2012, 5:44:50 AM10/14/12
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On 10/14/2012 12:59 AM, Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:
> Fuckhead (and you are one) miranda only applies to CRIMINAL proceedings....
> not shit you WANT
>
> It is NOT remotely comperable, YOU ASSHOLE
And just for the record, what he said there made absolutely no sense. He
> not shit you WANT
>
> It is NOT remotely comperable, YOU ASSHOLE
had it bass ackwards, as usual. First, of course they are comparable.
They are both kinds of enumerated rights, and Beldin the dummy thinks
when it comes to rights, we should just *read in* the stipulation that
they are TOTALLY UNLIMITED and without any reasonable parameters
whatsoever, unless the conferring document specifically states
otherwise. This is why Beldin works in a grocery store.
The reason I say Beldumb had it bass ackwards, again, is because it is
trite to say that when it comes to rights, whether you are pointing to
the Constitution or a treaty or a declaration or an ordinary statute or
the common law or whatever, nowhere are they to be interpreted more
liberally in favor of the right-holder than in the context of a criminal
law setting where his personal liberty is at stake. So, if you believe
that because a right is enumerated a United Nations declaration of human
rights it must be totally and completely UNLIMITED in scope, beyond all
common sense and reason (unless stipulated otherwise), then certainly
you'd have to have the same attitude when it comes to the rights of an
accused in a criminal law setting, where his physical liberty is in
jeopardy.
I know, it was just Beldumb being Beldumb, why do I bother. I'm still
hoping susan will come around and explain, in terms even I can
understand, why it's a bad idea to guarantee all citizens access to
quality health care, even if it costs her absolutely nothing.
Beldin the Sorcerer
Oct 14, 2012, 6:04:32 AM10/14/12
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adult.
Want a banana?
BillB
Oct 14, 2012, 6:06:57 AM10/14/12
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On 10/14/2012 3:04 AM, Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:
> You know, only a cocksucking monkey would make fun of a mentally disabled
> adult.
Oh, come on. Everyone makes fun of you.
> You know, only a cocksucking monkey would make fun of a mentally disabled
> adult.
Clave
Oct 14, 2012, 6:08:01 AM10/14/12
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No, perfectly rational, reasonable people make fun of you every day.
Jim
Jim
Clave
Oct 14, 2012, 6:09:02 AM10/14/12
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Beat me by 2 minutes.
BillB
Oct 14, 2012, 6:17:14 AM10/14/12
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On 10/14/2012 3:09 AM, Clave wrote:
> Beat me by 2 minutes.
haha..he makes it so easy.
> Beat me by 2 minutes.
It was, after all, the only reasonable interpretation of what he said,
right? The only person I made fun of was him.
Clave
Oct 14, 2012, 6:24:25 AM10/14/12
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Dumbass -- he gets to define "reasonable" -- not you, me, and the rest of
the world.
Jim
the world.
Jim
Beldin the Sorcerer
Oct 14, 2012, 6:27:43 AM10/14/12
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You're discussing a man being spanked by another man
What is the reasonable conclusion?
Clave
Oct 14, 2012, 6:32:32 AM10/14/12
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> What is the reasonable conclusion?
LOL -- that you got spanked.
Jim
<...>
> What is the reasonable conclusion?
Jim
Beldin the Sorcerer
Oct 14, 2012, 6:33:30 AM10/14/12
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BillB wrote:
> On 10/14/2012 12:59 AM, Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:
>
>> Fuckhead (and you are one) miranda only applies to CRIMINAL
>> proceedings.... not shit you WANT
>>
>> It is NOT remotely comperable, YOU ASSHOLE
>
> And just for the record, what he said there made absolutely no sense.
No, fuckhead, you're wrong.
> On 10/14/2012 12:59 AM, Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:
>
>> Fuckhead (and you are one) miranda only applies to CRIMINAL
>> proceedings.... not shit you WANT
>>
>> It is NOT remotely comperable, YOU ASSHOLE
>
> And just for the record, what he said there made absolutely no sense.
And if you weren't a brain damaged monkey, you'd know it.
> He had it bass ackwards, as usual. First, of course they are
> comparable. They are both kinds of enumerated rights, and Beldin the
> dummy thinks when it comes to rights, we should just *read in* the
> stipulation that they are TOTALLY UNLIMITED and without any
> reasonable parameters whatsoever, unless the conferring document
> specifically states otherwise. This is why Beldin works in a grocery
> store.
You're a shit for brains
You have a right to CRIMINAL COUNCIL because the GOVERNMENT, who MAKES the
rules, prosecutes you.
You NEED a lawyer to have any reasonable chance of getting a fair trial.
You do NOT get a lawyer free if you are being SUED.
The other side in a civil case doesjn't make the law and hold you detained
until trial
Bill is out, likely doing gay porn to make ends meet, because his mind has
failed him so badly he's hopeless
>
> The reason I say Beldumb had it bass ackwards, again, is because it is
> trite to say that when it comes to rights, whether you are pointing to
> the Constitution or a treaty or a declaration or an ordinary statute
> or the common law or whatever, nowhere are they to be interpreted more
> liberally in favor of the right-holder than in the context of a
> criminal law setting where his personal liberty is at stake. So, if
> you believe that because a right is enumerated a United Nations
> declaration of human rights it must be totally and completely
> UNLIMITED in scope, beyond all common sense and reason (unless
> stipulated otherwise), then certainly you'd have to have the same
> attitude when it comes to the rights of an accused in a criminal law
> setting, where his physical liberty is in jeopardy.
moron.
Legal council is NOT all you can eat, free. If you can afford it, you get
nothing handed to you. If you can't, you get decent council, not the best
available.
And that is NOT what people want from health care.
Now monkey boy, don't you have a banana to fuck?
You're beyond stupid, as usual
Beldin the Sorcerer
Oct 14, 2012, 6:37:48 AM10/14/12
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But let's scroll back to you insulting a mentally handicapped individual
that the entire town of Concord is very fond of.
How's about you come to concord and repeat those comments about David?
I'm sure you're man enough to insult him to his face, not just sitting in
your chair, cock in hand, typing, right?
There's a few cashiers who'll probably rip that cock off and shove it up
your ass, but hey, you probably like that
Beldin the Sorcerer
Oct 14, 2012, 6:39:20 AM10/14/12
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I expect such stupidity from Willies. They are beneath contempt
Willie II made fun of a mentally handicapped individual.
If you're not a TOTAL asshole, you will condemn him for that
Clave
Oct 14, 2012, 6:40:19 AM10/14/12
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Who's got gay fantasies?
Jim
Jim
Beldin the Sorcerer
Oct 14, 2012, 6:39:49 AM10/14/12
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>> Beat me by 2 minutes.
In jerking off time?
So you lasted 2:30?
Beldin the Sorcerer
Oct 14, 2012, 6:40:30 AM10/14/12
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You seriously are mentally defective enough to think you weren't making fun
of David?
Fucked in the ass, indeed
Beldin the Sorcerer
Oct 14, 2012, 6:41:30 AM10/14/12
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But fuck, Jimbo
Why start telling the truth now?
Beldin the Sorcerer
Oct 14, 2012, 6:42:08 AM10/14/12
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You got something to discuss with the class, Jimmy?
BillB
Oct 14, 2012, 6:42:52 AM10/14/12
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On 10/14/2012 3:33 AM, Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:
> And this pulled from his monkey ass horseshit shows why he's a fucking
> moron.
> Legal council is NOT all you can eat, free. If you can afford it, you get
> nothing handed to you. If you can't, you get decent council, not the best
> available.
> And that is NOT what people want from health care.
>
> Now monkey boy, don't you have a banana to fuck?
>
> You're beyond stupid, as usual
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is what a 66 IQ looks like.
> And this pulled from his monkey ass horseshit shows why he's a fucking
> moron.
> Legal council is NOT all you can eat, free. If you can afford it, you get
> nothing handed to you. If you can't, you get decent council, not the best
> available.
> And that is NOT what people want from health care.
>
> Now monkey boy, don't you have a banana to fuck?
>
> You're beyond stupid, as usual
Beldin the Sorcerer
Oct 14, 2012, 6:43:01 AM10/14/12
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There's nothing remotely erotic about girls emasculating him and shoving it
up his ass
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