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david mills

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Aug 19, 2012, 4:49:41 AM8/19/12
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1. The Shaggy D.A. - Great Plot, Acting and Dialogue. It can't be
topped, I wish they would make a part 2.

2. Armageddon - Incredible Acting (Bruce Willis should have won an
Academy Award).

3. Ghosts of Mars - I don't even know where to begin, best special
effects ever.

4. Congo - The acting is incredible, how did they train that Gorrila
to do all of that sign language and stuff? Very, very scary movie
also.

5. Road Rage - Stars Casper Van Diem and has the best car chases in
movie history.

6. Independence Day - Still almost 20 years later, the special effects
cannot be beaten.

7. Cop Land - Stallone's finest work ever.

8. Judge Dredd - Not quite on par with Cop Land, but still a
masterpiece of cinema.

9. Last Action Hero - Very original screenplay that most people did
not understand.

10. The Tuxedo - Amazing film, definitely Jackie Chan's best.

11. The Adventures of Pluto Nash - The $100 million budget was
justified in this amazing epic.

12. A.I. -- Most action I have seen in a movie ever, great dialogue
too.

13. Godzilla -- Best remake of all time....nuff said.

14. Rent a Cop -- Very original plot and a great cast.

So, those are my picks for greatest movies ever. Please reply back
and list your top movies and also whether or not you agree with mine.

Beldin the Sorcerer

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Aug 19, 2012, 5:18:12 AM8/19/12
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Sad, pathetic troll.

.001


Tad Perry

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Aug 19, 2012, 5:53:47 AM8/19/12
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I thought it was pretty funny and he even had me wondering at one point if
he was serious.

I give it 8.1.

Wanna argue about it endlessly? Huh? Do ya, punk? Huh? :-)

(I'm joking! I'm joking!)

I mean, you gotta give it more than .001 if it even made you smile a little
bit and I actually laughed.

tvp

Beldin the Sorcerer

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Aug 19, 2012, 6:01:50 AM8/19/12
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In order to be a good troll, there has to be SOMEONE who might possibly
believe its serious

Is there anyone on this earth who might think ANY of those statements are
true?

Hell, I sat through some of those movies (mostly on cable while bored) but
its the ones I haven't seen that are most obvious... I mean Pluto Nash?
That's such an obvious troll sign.....


On a completely unrelated topic, how widely available is your book?


Tad Perry

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Aug 19, 2012, 6:09:03 AM8/19/12
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Smokey and the Bandit -- Everyone had to have a black Trans Am and a CB
radio after this movie came out. It's practically the prequel to Norma Rae.

Dune -- Ya' ever think: "Man, this movie is so good, I hope it never ends?"
You get your wish with this one.

Twins -- You obviously missed this one if you think you've seen Arnold at
his best.

tvp

double....@hotmail.com

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Aug 19, 2012, 11:17:32 AM8/19/12
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On Aug 19, 5:09 am, "Tad Perry" <tadpe...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Twins -- You obviously missed this one if you think you've seen Arnold at
> his best.
>

Almost as good as "Predator"- "If it bleeds, we can kill it"!
Damn, I love that movie!

behindt...@hotmail.com

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Aug 19, 2012, 11:53:37 AM8/19/12
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On Sunday, August 19, 2012 5:18:12 AM UTC-4, Beldin The Sorcerer wrote:

>
> Sad, pathetic troll.
>
>
>
> .001

Wow, just because you don't agree with me doesn't mean I'm a troll. You are just a hater. You don't understand great movies.

Will in New Haven

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Aug 19, 2012, 1:28:09 PM8/19/12
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On Aug 19, 6:01 am, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <Beldin...@verizon.net>
wrote:
Why not? He didn't say "best," he said "my favorite." I can believe
that those are his favorite films. I don't think many people share his
opinion and I can't remember liking any of those movies but who cares.
It is very possibly, aside from being posted this this ng, not a troll
at all.

--
Willy "The Lamb" Reich

.

QN

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Aug 19, 2012, 3:33:48 PM8/19/12
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"david mills" <behindt...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I haven't seen many of yours.

I like:
2001
The Day The Earth Stood Still (original 1951)
Star Wars (now episode 4)
Patton
Forbidden Planet (1956)
Planet of the Apes (original)
Airplane!
The Terminator
Monty Python and the Holy Grail
Jaws
First Men in the Moon
Truth or Dare
Basic Instinct
Seven Days In May
The Godfather
Total Recall (original) (I haven't seen the new one yet)
Colossus The Forbin Project
Mister Roberts
The Birds
North by Northwest
Bladerunner
Rear Window


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Tad Perry

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Aug 19, 2012, 5:59:25 PM8/19/12
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Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:
>
> On a completely unrelated topic, how widely available is your book?

In one sense, it's very widely available, because you can get it through
Amazon.
In another sense, it's not very available at all, because if you didn't hear
about it here, you wouldn't even know it exists.

I'll be totally honest about my own opinion of it:

Pros
- If you're a real poker junkie, you'll eat a lot of it up. (The first
entire section is about poker in general, not holdem specifically.)
- I've been told that it builds and builds and gets more and more
interesting as you go.
- It really does have quite a bit in it that I've never seen in another book

Cons
- As Andrew Pri^Hock pointed out, only about eight people still play Texas
Holdem.
- There are several really annoying typos despite the fact I tried hard to
avoid them.
- There are some things I really think I should have included after the fact
that aren't in it.
- It has some controversial points to make that most players would not agree
with.

(Although I claim I'm right on everything I say in that book, it's one of
those things where you might not believe what I say about some things
because it runs completely counter to conventional wisdom. For instance, I
claim that cards should not be considered to be evenly distributed between
the deck and other players' hands when figuring implied odds after the flop,
because the very fact players have continued past the flop has a filtering
effect on what you're probably against and this impacts the chances that
your outs are in the deck. A lot of people balk at that because they've been
trained to think otherwise, but I claim I'm right about this.)

tvp


gtech1

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Aug 19, 2012, 8:11:25 PM8/19/12
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Not bad. You put some work into this!

eldo77

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Aug 20, 2012, 2:05:49 PM8/20/12
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On Aug 19 2012 4:49 AM, david mills wrote:

These are all great movies. I assume you are eleven years old.

Eldo77


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To such I say __ NEVER PLAY.

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chandler

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Aug 20, 2012, 4:02:41 PM8/20/12
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On Aug 19 2012 1:28 PM, Will in New Haven wrote:


>
> Why not? He didn't say "best," he said "my favorite." I can believe
> that those are his favorite films. I don't think many people share his
> opinion and I can't remember liking any of those movies but who cares.
> It is very possibly, aside from being posted this this ng, not a troll
> at all.

When reading rgp I assume every post is a troller or trollee. After a
point it becomes impossible to distinguish between the two... not that it
matters, from my perspective. I liked "Ghosts of Mars" anyway. Not John
Carpenter's finest, but a solid B movie. And I never saw "The Tuxedo",
but Jackie Chan is the man.

Chandler

Will in New Haven

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Aug 20, 2012, 4:08:13 PM8/20/12
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I think there were one or two on his lists that were enjoyable enough
to finish watching on late-night TV, none that I have any urge to re-
watch. I have a very low-brow taste in movies but his list missed me.

--
Will in New Haven

fffurken

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Aug 20, 2012, 4:43:01 PM8/20/12
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On Aug 20, 9:02 pm, "chandler" <a5a7...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> On Aug 19 2012 1:28 PM, Will in New Haven wrote:
>
>
>
> > Why not? He didn't say "best," he said "my favorite." I can believe
> > that those are his favorite films. I don't think many people share his
> > opinion and I can't remember liking any of those movies but who cares.
> > It is very possibly, aside from being posted this this ng, not a troll
> > at all.
>
> When reading rgp I assume every post is a troller or trollee.  After a
> point it becomes impossible to distinguish between the two...

Yeah, I thought that too initially, but the truth truly is the truth
is stranger than fiction.

There are more strange people around here per capita than you can
shake a stick at.

Steam

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Aug 20, 2012, 5:46:33 PM8/20/12
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I thought Ghosts of Mars was entirely unwatchable

brattt

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Aug 20, 2012, 6:36:29 PM8/20/12
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On Aug 19 2012 3:49 AM, david mills wrote:

I have only walked out of two movies in my life - and one of them is on
this list - AI (It's also the only one I have seen on this list)

The other one I walked out on was Reds


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phlash74

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Aug 20, 2012, 6:43:03 PM8/20/12
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On Aug 20 2012 3:36 PM, brattt wrote:

>
> I have only walked out of two movies in my life - and one of them is on
> this list - AI (It's also the only one I have seen on this list)
>
> The other one I walked out on was Reds
>


The only two movies I've walked out of are Cars 2 (my daughter got bored
halfway through) and Best Picture winner Shakespeare in Love. Armageddon
and Independence Day (from the OP's list) are OK if overlong, haven't seen
any of the others and never had a desire to. Not surprised A.I. is
horrible - Spielberg's been a hack for almost 30 years, ever since he
decided he was an artiste and not a very good director of popcorn movies.

Michael

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Beldin the Sorcerer

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Aug 20, 2012, 11:25:35 PM8/20/12
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Chan is great.

The Tuxedo was fuckin' stupid


Beldin the Sorcerer

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Aug 20, 2012, 11:39:49 PM8/20/12
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Tad Perry wrote:
>>
> (Although I claim I'm right on everything I say in that book, it's
> one of those things where you might not believe what I say about some
> things because it runs completely counter to conventional wisdom. For
> instance, I claim that cards should not be considered to be evenly
> distributed between the deck and other players' hands when figuring
> implied odds after the flop, because the very fact players have
> continued past the flop has a filtering effect on what you're
> probably against and this impacts the chances that your outs are in
> the deck. A lot of people balk at that because they've been trained
> to think otherwise, but I claim I'm right about this.)

Your statement is probably correct when there are obvious draws and
reasonable players.

It is likely less true (as in, still somewhat true, but to a much less
significant degree) at low stakes limit games where people call with ace
high and backdoor draws

Tells become key here, in figuring out what you're up against.
You read"Psychology of Poker"?

> tvp


Beldin the Sorcerer

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Aug 20, 2012, 11:45:18 PM8/20/12
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Will in New Haven wrote:
Pluto Nash (biggest box office bomb of all time)
The Tuxedo.... Jackie Chan's best????

Troll city. I'm sorry



Beldin the Sorcerer

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Aug 20, 2012, 11:47:59 PM8/20/12
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I don't understand how you HOPED to be taken seriously.... Pluto Nash. My
god, man. Try something plausable, like Battlefield Earth



otter

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Aug 21, 2012, 12:13:48 AM8/21/12
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On Aug 20, 5:36 pm, "brattt" <af3...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> On Aug 19 2012 3:49 AM, david mills wrote:
>
> I have only walked out of two movies in my life - and one of them is on
> this list - AI  (It's also the only one I have seen on this list)

You walked out on AI??? What didn't you like about it? I thought it
was OK, seriously.

>
> The other one I walked out on was Reds
>

I wish I HAD walked out on Reds, but it was my living room.

The only movie I ever walked out on was "The Night of the Living
Dead".

I came close to leaving during "The Exorcist". That was back when it
originally came out. Now it seems tame.

otter

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Aug 21, 2012, 12:38:27 AM8/21/12
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On Aug 20, 11:13 pm, otter <bighorn_b...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 20, 5:36 pm, "brattt" <af3...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>
> > On Aug 19 2012 3:49 AM, david mills wrote:
>
> > I have only walked out of two movies in my life - and one of them is on
> > this list - AI  (It's also the only one I have seen on this list)
>
> You walked out on AI???  What didn't you like about it?  I thought it
> was OK, seriously.

I had to refresh my memory, since it was awhile:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A.I._Artificial_Intelligence

Reviews were mostly favorable, although some people hated it. I guess
the biggest complaint was the ending, which I thought was refreshingly
different. Ah, well, I still like it. Not as much as "Blade Runner",
of course.

Clave

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"otter" <bighor...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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<...>

> I wish I HAD walked out on Reds, but it was my living room.

I thought Reds was pretty interesting, but I saw it on a Cinerama screen.
That probably added something.

Jim



Dutch

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Aug 21, 2012, 2:02:39 AM8/21/12
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Yours are all shit, except Copland, that's in my top 100.

1-3 The Bourne Trilogy
4 O Brother Where Art Thou?
5 Warrior
6 The Illusionist
7 Johnny English
8 Miss Potter
9 Gran Torino
10 The Good The Bad and The Ugly


otter

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Aug 21, 2012, 2:20:24 AM8/21/12
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On Aug 19, 3:49 am, david mills <behindtheli...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> So, those are my picks for greatest movies ever.  Please reply back
> and list your top movies and also whether or not you agree with mine.

OK, even if you are trolling, you picked AI, so I'm obligated.

Sure, I like the standard ones that everyone knows: Shawshank
Redemption, The Godfather, Casablanca, Schindler's List, Cuckoos Nest,
Taxi Driver, Goodfellas, Blade Runner, Twelve Monkeys, etc. etc.

Some lesser known ones that I really like:

1. "Three Colors: Blue, White, Red". French film (actually a
trilogy). Probably most everyone here will hate these, but believe me
they are good.
2. "A Touch of Evil" (Orson Wells).
3. "The Vanishing". The original 1988 French film, not the horrible
remake.

These are probably more well known, but maybe not by everyone:
4. "A Clockwork Orange"
5. "Being John Malkovich"
6. "A Fish named Wanda"
7. "Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid"
8. "Breaker Morant"

There are many more, but that's a start.



Clave

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Aug 21, 2012, 2:32:17 AM8/21/12
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"Dutch" <n...@email.com> wrote in message
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<...>

> Yours are all shit, except Copland, that's in my top 100.
>
> 1-3 The Bourne Trilogy
> 4 O Brother Where Art Thou?
> 5 Warrior
> 6 The Illusionist
> 7 Johnny English
> 8 Miss Potter
> 9 Gran Torino
> 10 The Good The Bad and The Ugly

Holy meh -- game on.

In no particular order (and subject to revision on my whim):

2001, a Space Odyssey
Blazing Saddles
All That Jazz
Repo Man
Robocop
Donnie Darko
The Big Lebowski
The Warriors
This is Spinal Tap
Brazil






Clave

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Aug 21, 2012, 2:42:46 AM8/21/12
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"otter" <bighor...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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<...>

> 3. "The Vanishing". The original 1988 French film, not the horrible
> remake.

Regarding French films with remakes, honorable mentions go to both the "The
Wages of Fear" (Yves Montand) *AND* its remake, "Sorcerer" (Roy Scheider and
Tangerine Dream score).

Absolutely edge-of-seat, both of them.

Jim



Beldin the Sorcerer

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Aug 21, 2012, 2:53:49 AM8/21/12
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Clave wrote:
> "Dutch" <n...@email.com> wrote in message
> news:QzFYr.6828$UW5....@newsfe15.iad...
>
> <...>
>
>> Yours are all shit, except Copland, that's in my top 100.
>>
>> 1-3 The Bourne Trilogy
>> 4 O Brother Where Art Thou?
>> 5 Warrior
>> 6 The Illusionist
>> 7 Johnny English
>> 8 Miss Potter
>> 9 Gran Torino
>> 10 The Good The Bad and The Ugly
>
> Holy meh -- game on.
Well I suppose its not trolling now
Except for The Warriors... my effing god, that sucked
(No Order)

Lord of the Rings trilogy ( It's one long movie deal with it)
The Terminator
The Prestige
The Matrix
The Italian Job (remake)
The Sting
Criminal (John C Reilly movie)
The Flim-Flam Man
The Great Escape
Gladiator






Clave

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Aug 21, 2012, 3:00:01 AM8/21/12
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"Beldin the Sorcerer" <Beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Litses like this give me all the snob fuel I'll ever need.

Jim



Beldin the Sorcerer

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Aug 21, 2012, 3:09:02 AM8/21/12
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Clave wrote:
> Litses like this give me all the snob fuel I'll ever need.
Repo man makes you a snob?

I own TIST and have bought their albums for fun, but a list full of cult
films isn't going to make you a snob


Clave

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Aug 21, 2012, 3:14:00 AM8/21/12
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"Beldin the Sorcerer" <Beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Clave wrote:
>> Litses like this give me all the snob fuel I'll ever need.
> Repo man makes you a snob?

I said *your* list is what gives me snob fuel.

Learn to read.

Jim





Beldin the Sorcerer

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Aug 21, 2012, 3:26:54 AM8/21/12
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I know what you said, Jimbo

But given your list is largely cult films, its hard to understand why anyone
else's list would do that

And I'd put the Prestige up against your entire list, for morality
exploration


Clave

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"Beldin the Sorcerer" <Beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Clave wrote:
>> "Beldin the Sorcerer" <Beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:k0vc67$f9g$1...@dont-email.me...
>>> Clave wrote:
>>>> Litses like this give me all the snob fuel I'll ever need. Repo man
>>>> makes you a snob?
>>
>> I said *your* list is what gives me snob fuel.
>>
>
> I know what you said, Jimbo

And you clearly didn't understand a word.

Just fuck off, you boring needy putz. And when you get to where you've
fucked off to, you can just fuck off from there too. Keep fucking off until
you wind up back here, then fuck off again.

Jim



otter

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Aug 21, 2012, 2:35:40 AM8/21/12
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On Aug 21, 12:39 am, "Clave" <ChrisClav...@TheMonastery.com> wrote:
> "otter" <bighorn_b...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
At the Cinerama Theater in Seattle? I saw "2001", "Dr Zhivago", and
"It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World" there. Long ago.

otter

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Aug 21, 2012, 2:41:47 AM8/21/12
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Brazil and The Big Lebowski should be added to my list.

I also like Blazing Saddles, Animal House, Blues Brothers, etc, etc.

I can't make it all the way through Spinal Tap, or Robocop, though.

Beldin the Sorcerer

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Clave wrote:
> "Beldin the Sorcerer" <Beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:k0vd7i$jv3$1...@dont-email.me...
>> Clave wrote:
>>> "Beldin the Sorcerer" <Beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>> news:k0vc67$f9g$1...@dont-email.me...
>>>> Clave wrote:
>>>>> Litses like this give me all the snob fuel I'll ever need. Repo
>>>>> man makes you a snob?
>>>
>>> I said *your* list is what gives me snob fuel.
>>>
>>
>> I know what you said, Jimbo
>
> And you clearly didn't understand a word.
Shit, son, I knew what you were claiming. I am merely more than smart enough
to realize it's, well, moronic.

When your own list shows you're an idiot, son, nobody else's list can change
that


Clave

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Aug 21, 2012, 4:10:43 AM8/21/12
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"otter" <bighor...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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<...>

>> I thought Reds was pretty interesting, but I saw it on a Cinerama screen.
>> That probably added something.
>
> At the Cinerama Theater in Seattle? I saw "2001", "Dr Zhivago", and
> "It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World" there. Long ago.

Nope -- it was a "Super-Cinerama" in Minneapolis. There were only three in
the whole country.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinerama#Venues

I saw 2001 on the same screen in 1968, which is much more brag-worthy. It
was before Kubrick made the cuts, and I still remember being fucking freaked
out when HAL cut Frank's air hose.

They haven't shown that sequence since that I know of.

Jim



Clave

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Aug 21, 2012, 4:15:07 AM8/21/12
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"otter" <bighor...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Robocop's tough, but I'm still entertained every minute through it. Damn,
the last line is worth it all.

Spinal Tap -- I have musician friends and once briefly aspired myself, so
there you are.

Jim




chandler

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Aug 21, 2012, 7:22:39 AM8/21/12
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On Aug 20 2012 5:46 PM, Steam wrote:

> On Aug 20 2012 1:02 PM, chandler wrote:
>
> > On Aug 19 2012 1:28 PM, Will in New Haven wrote:
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Why not? He didn't say "best," he said "my favorite." I can believe
> > > that those are his favorite films. I don't think many people share his
> > > opinion and I can't remember liking any of those movies but who cares.
> > > It is very possibly, aside from being posted this this ng, not a troll
> > > at all.
> >
> > When reading rgp I assume every post is a troller or trollee. After a
> > point it becomes impossible to distinguish between the two... not that it
> > matters, from my perspective. I liked "Ghosts of Mars" anyway. Not John
> > Carpenter's finest, but a solid B movie. And I never saw "The Tuxedo",
> > but Jackie Chan is the man.
> >
> > Chandler
>
> I thought Ghosts of Mars was entirely unwatchable

Troll... seriously, it's zombies in space, dude. Where could it be bad?
;-) Are you a Carpenter fan? I tend to like most of his stuff. It's not
up to "Big Trouble in Little China" or "The Thing" but was still fun.

Chandler

Chandler

chandler

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Aug 21, 2012, 7:28:52 AM8/21/12
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Yes, great and neglected movies. I saw Sorceror first and went back to
see the French original. It would take a long time for me to winnow down
to a list of a handful of my top movies, but when I did they would have to
include "The Third Man" with Orson Welles, Joseph Cotten and the world's
only kick ass zither soundtrack... and Peckinpah's "The Wild Bunch."

Chandler

Steam

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Aug 21, 2012, 7:42:01 AM8/21/12
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I generally enjoy Carpenter

chandler

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Aug 21, 2012, 8:29:56 AM8/21/12
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On Aug 21 2012 7:28 AM, chandler wrote:


>
> Yes, great and neglected movies. I saw Sorceror first and went back to
> see the French original. It would take a long time for me to winnow down
> to a list of a handful of my top movies, but when I did they would have to
> include "The Third Man" with Orson Welles, Joseph Cotten and the world's
> only kick ass zither soundtrack... and Peckinpah's "The Wild Bunch."
>
> Chandler

Leone's "Once Upon A Time In America."

Chandler

brattt

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Aug 21, 2012, 9:17:13 AM8/21/12
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Big Lebowski is high on my list. As is Field of Dreams, and Dave.

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brattt

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On Aug 20 2012 11:13 PM, otter wrote:

> On Aug 20, 5:36 pm, "brattt" <af3...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> > On Aug 19 2012 3:49 AM, david mills wrote:
> >
> > I have only walked out of two movies in my life - and one of them is on
> > this list - AI  (It's also the only one I have seen on this list)
>
> You walked out on AI??? What didn't you like about it? I thought it
> was OK, seriously.

The part where Kubrick(sp?) was involved was OK. You could definately
feel the change when Spielberg took over the whole thing. Maybe if it had
been Spielberg all the way it would have been better. Or Kubrick the
whole way.


> >
> > The other one I walked out on was Reds
> >
>
> I wish I HAD walked out on Reds, but it was my living room.

About half the theater left after (I don't even remember if it was Diane
Keaton or Warren Beatty) was walking - and walking - and walking - and
walking - and walking - across the frozen tundra. Someone yelled "Just
get there already" at which point most everyone chimed in. And we left.

double....@hotmail.com

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Here's a couple of my faves:

Out of the Past
Godfather 1 & 2
The Postman always rings twice (original w/Garfield&Turner)
Chinatown
The Hustler
Bonny & Clyde
Casablanca
One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest
Network
Being There
The Maltese Falcon
Double Endemnity

Will in New Haven

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On Aug 20, 6:43 pm, "phlash74" <a102...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> On Aug 20 2012 3:36 PM, brattt wrote:
>
>
>
> > I have only walked out of two movies in my life - and one of them is on
> > this list - AI  (It's also the only one I have seen on this list)
>
> > The other one I walked out on was Reds
>
> The only two movies I've walked out of are Cars 2 (my daughter got bored
> halfway through) and Best Picture winner Shakespeare in Love. Armageddon
> and Independence Day (from the OP's list) are OK if overlong, haven't seen
> any of the others and never had a desire to. Not surprised A.I. is
> horrible - Spielberg's been a hack for almost 30 years, ever since he
> decided he was an artiste and not a very good director of popcorn movies.

I think your analysis of Spielberg is spot-on. And Independance Day,
while not a great film, is the best on the original list. I watched it
once and didn't mind it at all. While I would not watch it again, it
is B, switch to while a commercial is on the station you are watching,
material.

I walked out of "Gone With the Wind" many years ago; couldn't finish
reading the book either. And I walked out of "Back to the Future" when
it first came out because my girlfriend hated it and suggested going
home and doing something else. I have seen the movie since.

--
Willy "The Lamb" Reich

Will in New Haven

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On Aug 19, 4:49 am, david mills <behindtheli...@hotmail.com> wrote:

I guess I have to do a list now. These are _not_ in order but I'm
numbering so I will eventually stop. Assume " " around each movie
title if you must.

1: The Lord of the Rings Trilogy
2: Godfather 2 (1 is just off the list and 3 isn't that far off the
list)
3: Ladyhawk
4: Bull Durham
5: Invictus
6: Blade Runner
7: From Here to Eternity
8: Cyrano (The one from the thirties, the later one is not on the
list)
9: Henry V (the Branagh, the Olivier is just off the list)
10: Yojimbo
11: Seven Samurai
12: Throne of Blood
13: Ran
14: Scaramouche
15: Swept Away
16: The Devil in Miss Jones
17: She Wore a Yellow Ribbon (the rest of the cavalry trilogy is just
off the list)
18: Battle Cry
19: Glory
20: Duck Soup (The other two really good Marx Bros films are just off
the list)

Duck Soup would be very close to the top if I did put these in order.

--
Will in New Haven
"He was born with the gift of laughter and the knowledge that the
world was mad." Rafael Sabatini _Scaramouche_


fffurken

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On Aug 21, 5:13 am, otter <bighorn_b...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I came close to leaving during "The Exorcist".  That was back when it
> originally came out.  Now it seems tame.

I don't think The Exorcist is tame now. Genuinely scary horror movies
are few and far between. Offhand I could think of maybe 3 for me - The
Exorcist (demonic possession is scary), Alien (parasitic alien embryos
gestating inside humans is scary) and The Blair Witch Project. The
Blair Witch Project had one of the creepiest endings ever to a film.
When they're all in a panic and they stumble across the abandoned,
derelict house and they're both running around that and then they get
separated and when she rushes down into the basement she sees her
friend completely motionless, head slightly bowed - Facing the wall*.
And then scream/budump..

* From experience (talking to someone else) I know not everyone who
watches the film gets the reference at the end but I don't know how
common it is to miss it.

PS. A few Coen Brothers films listed in this thread, but no mention of
Fargo?! I've seen that like a half dozen times. Raising Arizona also
another all time favourite from way back.

David Monaghan

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On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 01:49:41 -0700 (PDT), david mills
<behindt...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>1. The Shaggy D.A.
>2. Armageddon
>3. Ghosts of Mars
>4. Congo
>5. Road Rage
>6. Independence Day
>7. Cop Land
>8. Judge Dredd
>9. Last Action Hero
>10. The Tuxedo
>11. The Adventures of Pluto Nash
>12. A.I.
>13. Godzilla
>14. Rent a Cop

Judging by the comments, which I've snipped, I would have said this is a
spoof, rather than a troll, but I haven't seen most of them, to be fair.
Independence Day and Last action Hero are both films I've been happy enough
to watch more than once, so not complete dogs.

Here's my top 10 - in no particular order and including more than ten films,
but there you go...

Animal House
Grosse Point Blank
Falling Down
Dirty Rotten Scoundrels
In Bruges
Terminator
Con Air
Matrix
The Sting
Spy Game
Assault on Precinct 13
Alien

There are probably more, but these are the ones I either thought of myself,
or others have mentioned. I'm not alone - I like "Brazil" fine - it's what
1984 should have been, without the comedy - but I'm sure the fact it's got
more than one vote is due to the first mention.

DaveM

arseniccollection

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In no particular order, movies I would watch again:


The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly

The Matrix

Casablanca

Sin City

The Dark Knight (Batman 2)

The Sting

Cabaret

Reservoir Dogs



FL Turbo

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On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 17:12:41 -0700, arseniccollection <g...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
These are a few of my favorite movies that I watch over and over
again.

Blue Hawaii

Jailhouse Rock

Love me Tender

Viva Las Vegas

G.I. Blues

Girl Happy

Follow that Dream

Change of Habit

Debbie does Dallas

Tad Perry

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Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:
> Clave wrote:
>> "Dutch" <n...@email.com> wrote in message
>> news:QzFYr.6828$UW5....@newsfe15.iad...
>>
>> <...>
>>
>>> Yours are all shit, except Copland, that's in my top 100.
>>>
>>> 1-3 The Bourne Trilogy
>>> 4 O Brother Where Art Thou?
>>> 5 Warrior
>>> 6 The Illusionist
>>> 7 Johnny English
>>> 8 Miss Potter
>>> 9 Gran Torino
>>> 10 The Good The Bad and The Ugly
>>
>> Holy meh -- game on.
> Well I suppose its not trolling now
> Except for The Warriors... my effing god, that sucked
> (No Order)
>
> Lord of the Rings trilogy * ( It's one long movie deal with it)
> The Terminator *
> The Prestige
> The Matrix *
> The Italian Job (remake)
> The Sting *
> Criminal (John C Reilly movie)
> The Flim-Flam Man
> The Great Escape *
> Gladiator *

Great list. This more closely approaches a list I might come up with than
anyone else's.

Note the *'s added by me as: "I agree totally."

I can (and have) watched any and all of these as many times as I get the
chance to.

tvp

phlash74

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In no particular order: Airplane!, Blazing Saddles, Pulp Fiction, Monty
Python and the Holy Grail, White Men Can't Jump, Bull Durham, Raiders of
the Lost Ark, Lord of the Rings, Goodfellas, Kill Bill, The Bad News Bears
(original), and Showgirls (a great unintentional comedy, only Gina Gershon
seems to be in on the joke).

Michael

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that, but I'll give him a pass because he is smart." - ramashiva,
8/22/2010

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Igotskillz, 4/6/2011

Travel A

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I thought Judge Dredd was okay. I wouldn't rent it, but "free" on cable,
it's a lot better than most of the unwatchable crap made every year.

There are about 600 to 700 movies that open in U.S. theaters each year.
You tell me. Are 10% of them even something you'd be interested in
seeing, just getting by the description, alone? Anything with keywords
like: "coming of age;" touching romance;" "high school slackers;"
"terminally ill;" "hijinks;" "college buddies;" hilarious adventure;"
"warm;" "lovable;" "sincere" Freddy;" "Jason" etc., is puk("e"?
"i"?)able, right there.

Do you think there are 60 to 70 good movies made a year? No, where
talking in the realm of 5% of movies made a year that are even
watchable.

Your "Judge Dredds" are like a godsend when you're looking around for
something on the cable "guide thing" facrissake.

"The Fifth Element" with Bruce Willis and Milo Javavich (sp?, whatever)
is a great movie, for example. For the first half, that is. In the
second half, on the "vacation planet," it gets real stupid. I've
probably watched half of "The Fifth Element" three times. Willis has a
very cool cab and apartment in this movie: it's like a lighter version
of Bladerunner.

Okay, that's it. I'm tired of typing now.






Travel A

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Make that: "Blade Runner"

arseniccollection

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On 8/21/2012 10:52 PM, Travel A wrote:
> Make that: "Blade Runner"
>


"Dekka. He Brade Lunner."


Pepe Papon

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On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 01:15:07 -0700, "Clave"
<ChrisC...@TheMonastery.com> wrote:

>
>Spinal Tap -- I have musician friends and once briefly aspired myself, so
>there you are.

Another good movie along these lines is "Almost Famous". It doesn't
rate as highly as "Spinal Tap", but then again, few films do.

--

Pepe "The Revelation" Papon

Travel A

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Scary movie: "The Sixth Sense"

You won't be able to take a leak in the middle of the night again,
without looking over your shoulder for ghosts.

Travel A

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"We're," not "where"

Pepe Papon

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On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 01:01:23 +0100, David Monaghan
<monagha...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>Animal House
>Grosse Point Blank
>Falling Down
>Dirty Rotten Scoundrels
>In Bruges
>Terminator
>Con Air
>Matrix
>The Sting
>Spy Game
>Assault on Precinct 13
>Alien

It's hard to make lists like this, because there are so many
contenders, but your list contains 3 of mine: Animal House,
Terminator, and The Matrix. I loved The Sting, but I don't know if
I'd put it in my top tier.

But here we go, off the top of my head, in addition to the three I
just mentioned:

Monty Python and the Holy Grail
Young Frankenstein
Spinal Tap
Fargo
Shilling
The Full Monty
The Shaw shank Redemption
Sex, Lies, and Videotape
Star Wars
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Trading Places
Being There
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest

chandler

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On Aug 21 2012 8:01 PM, David Monaghan wrote:


> Assault on Precinct 13

Now there's a Carpenter fan... a low budget blast from the past. Unless
you are talking about the remake with Hawke.

Chandler

chandler

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On Aug 21 2012 10:32 AM, Will in New Haven wrote:


> 10: Yojimbo

My favorite of all the samurai movies. Beautifully shot by Kurosawa.
Mifune schooled genrations of actors on how to be a hard ass hero. A
really fun movie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m0Hdtnq39s

Chandler

Will in New Haven

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Each of those might have made my list if I had made it on a different
day. And I don't know how I left off "True Romance." Expand my list to
twenty-three because there is nothing already on there I would
remove.

--
Willy "The Lamb" Reich

Will in New Haven

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All of those are at least really good. Of course, some of them are on
my list also. The comedies rate lower with me, although still great I
just don't need movies to find things to laugh about. The world is
hilarious. For that matter, I don't need horror movies for the same
reason. Showgirls is very close to making my list. "Pulp Fiction" is
near also.


Willy "The Lamb" Reich

double....@hotmail.com

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That's a good one! My fave Kurosawa is "Seven Samurai". The old man,
their leader was great!

chandler

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On Aug 22 2012 10:46 AM, Will in New Haven wrote:


>
> Each of those might have made my list if I had made it on a different
> day. And I don't know how I left off "True Romance." Expand my list to
> twenty-three because there is nothing already on there I would
> remove.

True Romance had some Fantastic supporting performances. Gary Oldman's
part in particular is unforgettable. Damned fine work by Walken and
Hopper too.... among several others. You get 20 choices?
The Third Man
The Wild Bunch
Once Upon A Time In America
MASH
Casino
The Meaning of Life
Dr. Strangelove
Zulu
Reservoir Dogs
Yojimbo
Ronin
Das Boot
Stalingrad
Bladerunner
The Ipcress File
Unforgiven
Searchers
Captains Courageous
Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
Alien/s
Night/Dawn of the Living Dead
Deer Hunter
Apocalypse Now
The Music Man
The Stunt Man
The Naked Prey
Casablanca
Starwars
Serenity
To Have and Have Not... yeah, 20 isn't anywhere near enough. I could go
on. I didn't get to so many.

Chandler

phlash74

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On Aug 22 2012 9:13 AM, chandler wrote:

> On Aug 22 2012 10:46 AM, Will in New Haven wrote:
>
>
> >
> > Each of those might have made my list if I had made it on a different
> > day. And I don't know how I left off "True Romance." Expand my list to
> > twenty-three because there is nothing already on there I would
> > remove.
>
> True Romance had some Fantastic supporting performances. Gary Oldman's
> part in particular is unforgettable. Damned fine work by Walken and
> Hopper too.... among several others. You get 20 choices?


Gary Oldman is probably one of the best actors working today. His range is
absolutely astounding.

"He musta thought it was white boy day. It ain't white boy day, is it?"
"We got everything here from a diddly-eyed Joe to a damned if I know."

Throw in Hopper and Walken as you mentioned (that scene in the trailer was
incredible), plus Brad Pitt as a stoner, James Gandolfini as a hitman
(brutal scene with Patricia Arquette), and all the rest...yeah, I should
definitely have that movie on my list.

David Monaghan

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On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 09:13:49 -0700, "chandler" <a5a...@webnntp.invalid>
wrote:

>On Aug 22 2012 10:46 AM, Will in New Haven wrote:

>> Each of those might have made my list if I had made it on a different
>> day. And I don't know how I left off "True Romance." Expand my list to
>> twenty-three because there is nothing already on there I would
>> remove.

>True Romance had some Fantastic supporting performances. Gary Oldman's
>part in particular is unforgettable. Damned fine work by Walken and
>Hopper too.... among several others. You get 20 choices?

I don't know how I forgot "True Romance". That needs to be added to my list,
too.

>Dr. Strangelove
>Reservoir Dogs

Two more I should have had.

>Bladerunner

Probably another.

>Alien/s

Just Alien, but another one I missed.

>Deer Hunter

The Deer Hunter, along with Casino and Schindler's list are great films that
I'm glad I've seen, but that I never want to see again.

DaveM

David Monaghan

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On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 04:42:58 -0700, "chandler" <a5a...@webnntp.invalid>
wrote:
Definitely the original. I'm not sure I could bear to see the remake,
although I'm intrigued to know how they got round the problem of mobile
(cell) phones!

Now you've mentioned Hawke, you've reminded me of "Training Day" - another
that should have made my list.

DaveM

phlash74

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I wasn't a big fan of that movie...incredible performance by Denzel to be
sure, but the movie itself didn't really grab me. I feel the same way
about "The Dark Knight" - Heath Ledger's performance was justifiably
lauded, but the movie as a whole was kind of a mess.

Dutch

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otter wrote:
> On Aug 21, 1:32 am, "Clave" <ChrisClav...@TheMonastery.com> wrote:
>> "Dutch" <n...@email.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:QzFYr.6828$UW5....@newsfe15.iad...
>>
>> <...>
>>
>>> Yours are all shit, except Copland, that's in my top 100.
>>
>>> 1-3 The Bourne Trilogy
>>> 4 O Brother Where Art Thou?
>>> 5 Warrior
>>> 6 The Illusionist
>>> 7 Johnny English
>>> 8 Miss Potter
>>> 9 Gran Torino
>>> 10 The Good The Bad and The Ugly
>>
>> Holy meh -- game on.
>>
>> In no particular order (and subject to revision on my whim):
>>
>> 2001, a Space Odyssey
>> Blazing Saddles
>> All That Jazz
>> Repo Man
>> Robocop
>> Donnie Darko
>> The Big Lebowski
>> The Warriors
>> This is Spinal Tap
>> Brazil
>
> Brazil and The Big Lebowski should be added to my list.
>
> I also like Blazing Saddles, Animal House, Blues Brothers, etc, etc.
>
> I can't make it all the way through Spinal Tap, or Robocop, though.
>

I have to add Lambert the Sheepish Lion to my list...


Clave

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"David Monaghan" <monagha...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:lr4a3857b2kd9nk71...@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 04:42:58 -0700, "chandler" <a5a...@webnntp.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>On Aug 21 2012 8:01 PM, David Monaghan wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Assault on Precinct 13
>>
>>Now there's a Carpenter fan... a low budget blast from the past. Unless
>>you are talking about the remake with Hawke.
>
> Definitely the original. I'm not sure I could bear to see the remake

The remake sucked hard. And speaking of great movies that were desperately
NOT in need of remaking, The Taking of Pelham One Two Three.

Jim



Will in New Haven

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On Aug 22, 1:13 pm, David Monaghan <monaghand.da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 09:13:49 -0700, "chandler" <a5a7...@webnntp.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> >On Aug 22 2012 10:46 AM, Will in New Haven wrote:
> >> Each of those might have made my list if I had made it on a different
> >> day. And I don't know how I left off "True Romance." Expand my list to
> >> twenty-three because there is nothing already on there I would
> >> remove.
> >True Romance had some Fantastic supporting performances.  Gary Oldman's
> >part in particular is unforgettable.  Damned fine work by Walken and
> >Hopper too....  among several others.  You get 20 choices?
>
> I don't know how I forgot "True Romance". That needs to be added to my list,
> too.

Just for the scene where Elvis gives him the pep-talk. Just like
Krishna talking to Arjuna in the chariot.

>
> >Dr. Strangelove
> >Reservoir Dogs
>
> Two more I should have  had.
>
> >Bladerunner
>
> Probably another.
>
> >Alien/s
>
> Just Alien, but another one I missed.

Just Aliens for me but it has very little to do, in my opinion, with
the quality of the movies. If you like horror better, you like the
first film better. If you like SF better, you like the second. Horror
doesn't move me much.

>
> >Deer Hunter
>
> The Deer Hunter, along with Casino and Schindler's list are great films that
> I'm glad I've seen, but that I never want to see again.

It annoyed me that they didn't show him arming the Jews that he was
helping, as he did in real life or at least in the book, in
Schindler's List. I didn't like either of those other movies to the
point that I would mention them in a discussion like this, although
they were worth watching.

double....@hotmail.com

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I almost forgot "The Big Lebowski"

(looks like The Dude is gonna be at both conventions:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/click/2012/08/jeff-bridges-headed-to-the-rnc-dnc-132793.html?hp=r16)

mo_ntresor

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On Aug 22 2012 12:51 PM, Will in New Haven wrote:

> > The Deer Hunter, along with Casino and Schindler's list are great films
that
> > I'm glad I've seen, but that I never want to see again.
>
> It annoyed me that they didn't show him arming the Jews that he was
> helping, as he did in real life or at least in the book, in
> Schindler's List. I didn't like either of those other movies to the
> point that I would mention them in a discussion like this, although
> they were worth watching.

you two clowns need to see casino again.

mo_ntresor

Travel A

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Aug 22, 2012, 9:39:59 PM8/22/12
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I'll try a "top twenty," although everyone seems to agree that these
lists are impossible to nail down to a definite 20 movies.


"The Godfather"
"The Godfather part-2"
"Chinatown"
"The Good The Bad and The Ugly"
"Barry Lyndon"
"Spartacus"
"Gladiator"
"Once Upon A time In The West"
"Goodfellas"
"No Country For Old Men"
"Fargo"
"Pulp Fiction"
"A Man For All Seasons"
"Ben Hur"
"Casablanca"
"The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes"
"Scarface" (with Al Pacino as Tony Montana)
"Platoon"
"The Last Of The Mohicans"
"To Live and Die In LA"

Dutch

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Will in New Haven

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On Aug 22, 5:10 pm, "mo_ntresor" <amontilladofortun...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I've seen it a couple of times and I didn't think my time was wasted.
On the other hand, it isn't ever going to make my top movies list.

chandler

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On Aug 22 2012 12:23 PM, phlash74 wrote:

> On Aug 22 2012 9:13 AM, chandler wrote:
>
> > On Aug 22 2012 10:46 AM, Will in New Haven wrote:
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Each of those might have made my list if I had made it on a different
> > > day. And I don't know how I left off "True Romance." Expand my list to
> > > twenty-three because there is nothing already on there I would
> > > remove.
> >
> > True Romance had some Fantastic supporting performances. Gary Oldman's
> > part in particular is unforgettable. Damned fine work by Walken and
> > Hopper too.... among several others. You get 20 choices?
>
>
> Gary Oldman is probably one of the best actors working today. His range is
> absolutely astounding.
>

The man is a freakin' changeling. I've seen him in movies where I needed
to read the credits to be sure who I had just watched.

Chandler

mo_ntresor

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On Aug 23 2012 7:59 AM, chandler wrote:

> > Gary Oldman is probably one of the best actors working today. His range is
> > absolutely astounding.
>
> The man is a freakin' changeling. I've seen him in movies where I needed
> to read the credits to be sure who I had just watched.

he lit up tinker,tailor a year or so ago, and i don't think he spoke more
than a couple hundred words.

mo_ntresor

Will in New Haven

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Aug 23, 2012, 10:05:41 AM8/23/12
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A very good list. Not one film on there that isn't a _contender_ for
my own list except the one I haven't seen (No Country for Old Men) and
I expect that one to make my list when I see it, based on the book.

"The Last of the Mohicans" was especially good because it was Fenimore
Cooper's story without his prose or much of his dialog.

chandler

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Aug 23, 2012, 10:13:06 AM8/23/12
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I like Carre, and I missed that one. I'll put it on my list. I did see a
mini series many years ago on PBS... probably a BBC production.

Chandler

chandler

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On Aug 22 2012 2:51 PM, Will in New Haven wrote:


>
> Just Aliens for me but it has very little to do, in my opinion, with
> the quality of the movies. If you like horror better, you like the
> first film better. If you like SF better, you like the second. Horror
> doesn't move me much.
>

Yes, Alien was completely geared towards scaring the living shit out of
you. Claustrophobic misenscene. Sets, lighting and camera work. Aliens
was a much more action/adventure and explored a bit more of the big
picture topics that scifi likes to deal with.

Chandler

mo_ntresor

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Aug 23, 2012, 10:13:47 AM8/23/12
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i dragged my future wife kicking and screaming to imax navy pier to watch
aliens for halloween a number of years ago: money well spent. it just
doesn't work on a tv.

mo_ntresor

otter

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Aug 23, 2012, 10:20:38 AM8/23/12
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On Aug 23, 9:05 am, Will in New Haven
Seriously, you haven't seen "No Country for Old Men"? How could you
avoid it? I mean, it is on TV all the time. Don't watch TV much?

double....@hotmail.com

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On Aug 23, 8:59 am, "chandler" <a5a7...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:

> > Gary Oldman is probably one of the best actors working today. His range is
> > absolutely astounding.
>

Really good as Oswald in JFK

chandler

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Aug 23, 2012, 10:18:50 AM8/23/12
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Stuff like this is always going to be personal preference and taste.
There are movies that I realize are likely superior, but do not make the
top of my fav list. Apocalypse Now is a film I recognize as a mess, but
it's a glorious mess.... I watched this movie named "Dust" the other day.
It was a mess. I couldn't recommend it, but I couldn't stop watching it.
It was really interesting.

Chandler

chandler

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Aug 23, 2012, 10:27:11 AM8/23/12
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On Aug 23 2012 10:13 AM, mo_ntresor wrote:
>
> i dragged my future wife kicking and screaming to imax navy pier to watch
> aliens for halloween a number of years ago: money well spent. it just
> doesn't work on a tv.
>
> mo_ntresor

Absolutely. I think this is lost on a bunch of people who are accustomed
to watch stuff in their home, or worse yet on some portable mini screen.
Watching either of those movies out of the theater is a completely
different experience... I haven't bought one of the crazy big TVs they
are making these days yet, but I doubt my opinion would change.

Chandler

Will in New Haven

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On Aug 23, 10:18 am, "chandler" <a5a7...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> On Aug 23 2012 10:02 AM, Will in New Haven wrote:
>
> > On Aug 22, 5:10 pm, "mo_ntresor" <amontilladofortun...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > you two clowns need to see casino again.
>
> > I've seen it a couple of times and I didn't think my time was wasted.
> > On the other hand, it isn't ever going to make my top movies list.
>
> Stuff like this is always going to be personal preference and taste.
> There are movies that I realize are likely superior, but do not make the
> top of my fav list.  Apocalypse Now is a film I recognize as a mess, but
> it's a glorious mess....

It's a movie about Vietnam that just turns into _Heart of Darkness_
right before the middle. If Conrad were alive, they would have had to
give him screen credit. I didn't like it all that much but it had some
great ingredients.

I watched this movie named "Dust" the other day.
>  It was a mess.  I couldn't recommend it, but I couldn't stop watching it.
>  It was really interesting.

A mess I couldn't stop watching. Now that is a perfect description of
my brother's first marriage.

Will in New Haven

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Aug 23, 2012, 11:01:20 AM8/23/12
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No I don't. But what I do watch on TV is movies (and sports and "The
Big Bang Theory") so I figure to see it soon.

Didn't "To Live and Die in LA" win an Oscar for best use of pump
shotguns?

Travel A

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I'll try a "top twenty," although everyone seems to agree that these
lists are impossible to nail down to a definite 20 movies.


"The Godfather"
"The Godfather part-2"
"Chinatown"
"The Good The Bad and The Ugly"
"Barry Lyndon"
"Spartacus"
"Gladiator"
"Once Upon A time In The West"
"Goodfellas"
"No Country For Old Men"
"Fargo"
"Pulp Fiction"
"A Man For All Seasons"
"Ben Hur"
"Casablanca"
"The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes"
"Scarface" (with Al Pacino as Tony Montana)
"Platoon"
"The Last Of The Mohicans"
"To Live and Die In LA"


Will in New Haven wrote:


A very good list. Not one film on there that isn't a _contender_ for my
own list except the one I haven't seen (No Country for Old Men) and I
expect that one to make my list when I see it, based on the book.
"The Last of the Mohicans" was especially good because it was Fenimore
Cooper's story without his prose or much of his dialog.

--
Will in New Haven


I wrote:

Right from the opening scenes' character development detail, where the
Josh Brolin character is actually deploying hunting skills (rather than
portryed as just "a guy with a rifle"), "No Country For Old Men" is
intelligent and unpredictable. Great movie, great acting.

That is odd about James Fenimore Cooper, isn't it? Where he wrote
classic, technically excellent stories of the French and Indian Wars,
but had the driest, bereft of atmosphere writing styles, ever.

In "The Last Of The Mohicans," Wes Studi's, Magua, had to be the best
Indian chartacter, ever. No contest. And Madeline Stowe was great as the
"courageous woman" with sex appeal-protagonist's "love interest"
(usually, that's the "draggy part" of a movie, but Madeline Stowe
rocked).

This is one of those movies that: "get even better, everytime you see
it."

I hope that I spelled "Josh Brolin" and "Madeline Stowe" correctly for
"~M~." Who is that cocksucka, anyway?

Travel A

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Aug 23, 2012, 10:30:34 PM8/23/12
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I like Carre, and I missed that one. I'll put it on my list. I did see a
mini series many years ago on PBS... probably a BBC production.
Chandler


I wrote:
I've read all the John Le Carre novels and have been looking forward to
this movie, too.

With Comcasts "triple play" "deal," I get all the "premium movie
channels" except "The Movie Channel" "free" for two years (I always have
had the HBO and the "Encore" movie channels), and haven't see this movie
listed. I suspect that "The Movie Channel" has the rights to it.

The BBC production was with Ian Holm in the current, Gay Oldman,
character of "George Smiley." Great series: well worth it for anyone to
look into whether it's available anywhere online; Netflix; Amazon;
YouTube, ect.

Travel A

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Aug 23, 2012, 11:02:57 PM8/23/12
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Will In New Haven Wrote"

Didn't "To Live and Die in LA" win an Oscar for best use of pump
shotguns?


I wrote:
"Buddy, you're in the wrong place at the wrong time."
-Willem Defoe in, "To Live and Die In L.A."-

Willem Dafoe's best character, imo. And that's really going some,
considering "Platoon" and "The English Patient."


Pepe Papon

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On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 11:51:26 -0700 (PDT), Will in New Haven
<bill....@taylorandfrancis.com> wrote:

>> >Alien/s
>>
>> Just Alien, but another one I missed.
>
>Just Aliens for me but it has very little to do, in my opinion, with
>the quality of the movies. If you like horror better, you like the
>first film better. If you like SF better, you like the second. Horror
>doesn't move me much.

It might be due to my age, but Alien didn't knock me out. When I was
a kid, there was a movie called, "It: The Terror From Beyond Space",
that was shown on TV about a jillion times. "Alien" was basically
"It...." updated with the latest special effects.

I liked "Aliens" a lot better.

--

Pepe "The Revelation" Papon

double....@hotmail.com

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On Aug 23, 10:02 pm, nine...@webtv.net (Travel A) wrote:

> Willem Dafoe's best character, imo. And that's really going some,
> considering "Platoon" and "The English Patient."


"Platoon", probably Oliver Stone's best, though I am also partial to
"Salvador".

Will in New Haven

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On Aug 24, 2:43 am, Pepe Papon <hitmeis...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 11:51:26 -0700 (PDT), Will in New Haven
>
> <bill.re...@taylorandfrancis.com> wrote:
> >> >Alien/s
>
> >> Just Alien, but another one I missed.
>
> >Just Aliens for me but it has very little to do, in my opinion, with
> >the quality of the movies. If you like horror better, you like the
> >first film better. If you like SF better, you like the second. Horror
> >doesn't move me much.
>
> It might be due to my age, but Alien didn't knock me out.   When I was
> a kid, there was a movie called, "It: The Terror From Beyond Space",
> that was shown on TV about a jillion times.  "Alien" was basically
> "It...." updated with the latest special effects.
>
> I liked "Aliens" a lot better.

Our local SF club screened "The Terror from Beyond Space" a couple of
weeks after we had all seen "Alien." It was hilarious, the similarity.
They guy who brought the film to the meeting didn't say _why_ he was
showing it but after awhile we all started breaking up.
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