Another ESPN Hand error?

gaamblor

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Aug 4, 2003, 5:29:24 PM8/4/03

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In reading Phil Hellmuth's CardPlayer.com article, he describes a hand
they showed in the latest ESPN show.

On the show (in a non-feature table) Phil has A-K vs Sam Farha's Q-J
suited

Sammy hits a flush and takes the pot of a disgruntled Phil who had top
pair

However in Phils article
(http://www.cardplayer.com/?sec=afeature&art_id=13346) he recounts it as
having K-Q...now i'm assuming Phil understands the difference and would
not misremember an A-K as a K-Q, he even says that he wouldn't have been
upset if sammy showed him a-k so i find it hard to believe he has
misrememred this hand

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Lee Munzer

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Aug 4, 2003, 10:13:28 PM8/4/03

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"gaamblor" ...

> In reading Phil Hellmuth's CardPlayer.com article, he describes a hand
> they showed in the latest ESPN show.
>
> On the show (in a non-feature table) Phil has A-K vs Sam Farha's Q-J
> suited
>
> Sammy hits a flush and takes the pot of a disgruntled Phil who had top
> pair
>
> However in Phils article
> (http://www.cardplayer.com/?sec=afeature&art_id=13346) he recounts it as
> having K-Q...now i'm assuming Phil understands the difference and would
> not misremember an A-K as a K-Q, he even says that he wouldn't have been
> upset if sammy showed him a-k so i find it hard to believe he has
> misrememred this hand

And this recount from a post by Dutch Boyd:

"This isn´t exactly right... ESPN has been filling in the blanks whenever
the feel they need to. Let me recount a call that I got about a week
ago...

- Hey Dutch, this is so and so from ESPN. What´s up?
me - Not much.
- We need some information about a hand you played on day four against
Watkins. The flop came Q42. He checked, you bet, he called. Turn is a
7. He checked, you bet, and he folded. Do you remember what you had?
- Uhhh... nope.
- Well what should we put in for the program?
- I don´t care.
- Well, what do you think you might have had?
- I don´t know... how am I supposed to remember? I guess just say I had
pocket queens.
- Beautiful. Talk to you later.

You´ll probably see that hand tomorrow. There have been other hands that
they got wrong, for example my set of fours against the set of jacks.
That´s not how it happened. We both flopped a set with the flop JT4. I
had tens, he had jacks. Turn is a ten. River is a four. So if I don´t
seem too happy on the river, it´s because I was happy on the turn and a
bit apologetic on the river."

Lee

wamplerr

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Aug 4, 2003, 10:57:19 PM8/4/03

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"We both flopped a set with the flop JT4. I had tens, he had jacks. Turn
is a ten. River is a four. So if I don“t seem too happy on the river,
it“s because I was happy on the turn and a bit apologetic on the river."

Why make something up for the sake of making something up? If it
doesn't add anything, why screw up the integrity of the program?

RTN4

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Aug 4, 2003, 11:11:44 PM8/4/03

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On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 19:13:28 -0700, "Lee Munzer" <luck...@cox.net>
wrote:

>- Hey Dutch, this is so and so from ESPN. What´s up?
>me - Not much.

How did they get your phone number?

Lee Munzer

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Aug 4, 2003, 11:16:55 PM8/4/03

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"RTN4"om...

They probably asked players that they were recording to complete a short bio
form. In another thread Bob Ferduniak said they called him to confirm some
innocuous stuff.

Lee

Mister Poker

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Aug 6, 2003, 2:11:04 AM8/6/03

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I was on Phil's left during that hand... ESPN had it right. Not sure what
Phil says in his article.

Dutch

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