Coakley/Brown
hanks
to crow about it tomorrow Irish(not American) Mike.
You heard it here first.
hanks
susan
"hanks" <adrienn...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Do you think it means anything?
Puppytoes
I can hardly wait for the lefty spin machine to deny it means anything
if Brown does pull it off.
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hanks
> "hanks" <adriennebuus...@gmail.com> wrote in message
It means healthcare is dead!!!
hanks
Alim Nassor
Nope, not health care. A massive tax program that would ruin the
finest health care system in the world will be what is dead.
raven1
The stats don't support the US having the finest health care system in
the world. Far from it.
hanks
Our health care system is abouy 25th in the world. Are you a
shill for the insurance lobby or just stupid?
hanks
Dave the Clueless
Name the better ones, and the bases on which they are determined
preferable. Then explain why people of means from all over the world come
here for medical care.
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http://smartgirlnation.com/2009/06/popular-ranking-unfairly-misrepresents-the-us-health-care-system/
or
Clave
======================================================
Don't bet on it. The house could accept the Senate bill as is and it winds
up on Obama's desk this week. Then watch the reconciliation fun.
Jim
Paul Popinjay
Hey Hanks! Light cream, and one sugar.
And bring me a bagel too, mutherfucker.
hanks
>
> - Show quoted text -
The greatest flaw in the present system are gaps in coverage.
By establishing exchanges, mandates and tax credits.
This would guarantee that at least 94% of Americans had
decent coverage.
Out of control costs eat up 18% of every dollar we earn.
These costs have already helped to sink our auto
industry.
In Western Europe most primary care
practices
use electronic records and offer after hours care.
Canada, England,France,sweden,Denmayk, Finland
are all betterplaces to get sick.
hanks
hanks
> On Jan 18, 6:25 pm, "Dave the Clueless" <fract...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 18 2010 9:34 PM, raven1 wrote:
>
> > > On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:19:47 -0800 (PST), Alim Nassor
> > > <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > >On Jan 19, 8:13 am, hanks <adriennebuus...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> On Jan 18, 3:09 pm, "susan" <hotda...@charter.net> wrote:
>
> > > >> > "hanks" <adriennebuus...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > > >> >news:27fdfbab-5a3c-463a...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > >> > > Brown will beat Coakley tomorrow so you don't need
> > > >> > > to crow about it tomorrow Irish(not American) Mike.
> > > >> > > You heard it here first.
> > > >> > > hanks
>
> > > >> > Do you think it means anything?
>
> > > >> It means healthcare is dead!!!
> > > >> hanks
>
> > > >Nope, not health care. A massive tax program that would ruin the
> > > >finest health care system in the world will be what is dead.
>
> > > The stats don't support the US having the finest health care system in
> > > the world. Far from it.
>
> > Name the better ones, and the bases on which they are determined
> > preferable. Then explain why people of means from all over the world come
> > here for medical care.
>
> > ----
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> The greatest flaw in the present system are gaps in coverage.
> By establishing exchanges, mandates and tax credits.
> This would guarantee that at least 94% of Americans had
> decent coverage.
> Out of control costs eat up 18% of every dollar we earn.
> These costs have already helped to sink our auto
> industry.
> In Western Europe most primary care
> practices
> use electronic records and offer after hours care.
> Canada, England,France,sweden,Denmayk, Finland
> are all betterplaces to get sick.
Bill T
> The greatest flaw in the present system are gaps in coverage.
> By establishing exchanges, mandates and tax credits.
> This would guarantee that at least 94% of Americans had
> decent coverage.
No, we need a government-mandated public option. As an example, I am a
self-employed, reasonably healthy mid-middle aged guy. My insurance,
with a $2500 deductible and highly-restrictive coverage, costs over 10K
a year. If I were, say, a self-employed carpenter making 35K a year, I
wouldn't be able to afford medical insurance,a home, and food at the
same time.
Beldin the Sorcerer
"Bill T" <wct...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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year
Bill T
> "Bill T"<wct...@pacbell.net>
>> No, we need a government-mandated public option. As an example, I am a
>> self-employed, reasonably healthy mid-middle aged guy. My insurance, with
>> a $2500 deductible and highly-restrictive coverage, costs over 10K a year.
>> If I were, say, a self-employed carpenter making 35K a year, I wouldn't be
>> able to afford medical insurance,a home, and food at the same time.
> Hell, son, in many parts of this country you couldn't afford a home on 35k a
> year
I thought you were living well on $35K a year.
bub
>
>No, we need a government-mandated public option. As an example, I am a
>self-employed, reasonably healthy mid-middle aged guy. My insurance,
>with a $2500 deductible and highly-restrictive coverage, costs over 10K
>a year. If I were, say, a self-employed carpenter making 35K a year, I
>wouldn't be able to afford medical insurance,a home, and food at the
>same time.
i offer employees $800 single deduc, $1200 family deduc, $40 copay
office visit , 4 visits/year single , 12 family, $100 er copay 80/20
on hospital for i thinknow $38 / pay period (every 2 weeks) single
..$180 / pay period family
dental/vision $9 extra a month single $32 extra for family thru uhc
maybe you should look around
Bill T
>
> i offer employees $800 single deduc, $1200 family deduc, $40 copay
> office visit , 4 visits/year single , 12 family, $100 er copay 80/20
> on hospital for i thinknow $38 / pay period (every 2 weeks) single
> ..$180 / pay period family
>
> dental/vision $9 extra a month single $32 extra for family thru uhc
>
>
> maybe you should look around
Are you hiring?
Your employees are part of your company, and you probably have a sizable
contingent. Most of them are probably young.
I know that we self-employed form a very small part of the insurance
landscape, but I think my numbers are representative for my area of the
country. It reflects the absurdities that the market has not addressed.
I looked around, but it turns out I cannot get new insurance because I
have pre-existing conditions (well-controlled) of high blood pressure
and high cholesterol).
I understand that the insurance companies rate me according to others in
my narrow risk group (self-employed middle-aged men), but at some point
of risk-adjustment it becomes economically nonsensical. We all grow old
and sick, and it seems to me better to build those costs into our social
structure.
Beldin the Sorcerer
"Clave" <ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
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It's likely DOA if Brown wins
Beldin the Sorcerer
You an idiot?
Well, yes, you are.
I own a house in Mass.
Short of trading down, I need about 50k a year just to function.
I like to do more than that
Bill T
>>
>> I thought you were living well on $35K a year.
>>
> Why the hell would you think I made 35 k a year?
> You an idiot?
> Well, yes, you are.
> I own a house in Mass.
> Short of trading down, I need about 50k a year just to function.
> I like to do more than that
35, 50, 75, whatever.
Your posts (the few I see, because you post incessantly)seem to indicate
you are a poor young guy doing night-time tech-support while playing
micro-limit poker online.
I know hard-working upstanding guys who do carpentry around here for
$35k last year, and do their best to keep their lives and families
together. Anything wrong with that, sport?
Am I am an idiot? I certainly feel like it whenever I reply to you.
Clave
news:hj3ct5$ota$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
You don't get it -- the House has the votes to send it to Obama's desk if
they don't modify what the Senate's already passed.
Jim
Beldin the Sorcerer
The Senate version isn't right wing enough for the conservative dems who
therefore WON'T pass it
There were Dems who were against it in the house. They got paid off, but
their deals are NOT in the Senate version
Clave
<...blah, blah, blah...>
There's an argument to be made for not passing the Senate version, but it's
coming from progressives who want the Senate bill scuttled and the process
restarted. Polls clearly show that opposition to the current bills is
largely because they aren't progressive ENOUGH.
Still, it's impressive the way you pretend to channel Jim Clyburn.
Jim
Beldin the Sorcerer
> On 1/18/2010 8:47 PM, Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:
>>>
>>> I thought you were living well on $35K a year.
>>>
>> Why the hell would you think I made 35 k a year?
>> You an idiot?
>> Well, yes, you are.
>> I own a house in Mass.
>> Short of trading down, I need about 50k a year just to function.
>> I like to do more than that
>
> 35, 50, 75, whatever.
How long you been fucked in the ass?
Seriously, how long?
http://seekingalpha.com/article/161271-u-s-median-income-from-1999-2009-no-gain-much-pain
Median income in the US is 50k
>
> Your posts (the few I see, because you post incessantly)seem to indicate
> you are a poor young guy doing night-time tech-support while playing
> micro-limit poker online.
You hopefully do nothing that requires you to comprehend what you read.
I have stated any number of times that I only play on my nights off.
>
> I know hard-working upstanding guys who do carpentry around here for $35k
> last year, and do their best to keep their lives and families together.
> Anything wrong with that, sport?
>
Nothing wrong with it.
It's just below median and insufficient in most parts of the country
>
> Am I am an idiot? I certainly feel like it whenever I reply to you.
You look like it when you make idiotic claims
>
Bill T
> "Bill T"<wct...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> news:4b553cd3$0$3793$9a6e...@news.newshosting.com...
>> On 1/18/2010 8:47 PM, Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I thought you were living well on $35K a year.
>>>>
>>> Why the hell would you think I made 35 k a year?
>>> You an idiot?
>>> Well, yes, you are.
>>> I own a house in Mass.
>>> Short of trading down, I need about 50k a year just to function.
>>> I like to do more than that
>>
>> 35, 50, 75, whatever.
> 75k is poor?
Did I say 75K was poor? For you, it would be a jackpot. What part of
Mass. do you live in? Can't be Cambridge or Beacon hill.
> How long you been fucked in the ass?
> Seriously, how long?
> http://seekingalpha.com/article/161271-u-s-median-income-from-1999-2009-no-gain-much-pain
>
> Median income in the US is 50k
So? The average IQ in the US is 100. Prob. lower in your environs.
> You hopefully do nothing that requires you to comprehend what you read.
I am semi-retired, as I have have said.
>
> I have stated any number of times that I only play on my nights off.
Every night? Maybe the economy will pick up soon and they can give you
work more than every second week.
>>
>> I know hard-working upstanding guys who do carpentry around here for $35k
>> last year, and do their best to keep their lives and families together.
>> Anything wrong with that, sport?
>>
> Nothing wrong with it.
> It's just below median and insufficient in most parts of the country
WTF? 50K makes you OK in Mass but $35K is not in the rest of the country?
>
>>
>> Am I am an idiot? I certainly feel like it whenever I reply to you.
> You look like it when you make idiotic claims
What claims have I made?
Beldin the Sorcerer
> On 1/18/2010 9:19 PM, Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:
>> "Bill T"<wct...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>> news:4b553cd3$0$3793$9a6e...@news.newshosting.com...
>>> On 1/18/2010 8:47 PM, Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought you were living well on $35K a year.
>>>>>
>>>> Why the hell would you think I made 35 k a year?
>>>> You an idiot?
>>>> Well, yes, you are.
>>>> I own a house in Mass.
>>>> Short of trading down, I need about 50k a year just to function.
>>>> I like to do more than that
>>>
>>> 35, 50, 75, whatever.
>> 75k is poor?
>
>
> Did I say 75K was poor? For you, it would be a jackpot.
Not really, no
What part of your ass do you pull these numbers from?
What part of
> Mass. do you live in? Can't be Cambridge or Beacon hill.
No.
I've posted about it.
I own a house in Lawrence
>
>
>> How long you been fucked in the ass?
>> Seriously, how long?
>> http://seekingalpha.com/article/161271-u-s-median-income-from-1999-2009-no-gain-much-pain
>>
>> Median income in the US is 50k
>
> So? The average IQ in the US is 100. Prob. lower in your environs.
Bill, you're drunk now.
My IQ is 136
>
>
>> You hopefully do nothing that requires you to comprehend what you read.
>
> I am semi-retired, as I have have said.
I must have misread that as semi-retarded
>>
>> I have stated any number of times that I only play on my nights off.
>
> Every night? Maybe the economy will pick up soon and they can give you
> work more than every second week.
You're drunk AND stupid
I have had 2 nights a week off.
Alas, recent overtime cuts have made it 3 recently
There's any number of posts about home games I was unable to play because I
had to work
>
>>>
>>> I know hard-working upstanding guys who do carpentry around here for
>>> $35k
>>> last year, and do their best to keep their lives and families together.
>>> Anything wrong with that, sport?
>>>
>> Nothing wrong with it.
>> It's just below median and insufficient in most parts of the country
>
> WTF? 50K makes you OK in Mass but $35K is not in the rest of the country?
Idiot boy.
50k is the median income in the COUNTRY
23k is the goddamn poverty level for a family of 4
It's unlikely someone earning 35k can take care of a family with a home on
35k
>>
>>>
>>> Am I am an idiot? I certainly feel like it whenever I reply to you.
>> You look like it when you make idiotic claims
>
> What claims have I made?
That someone could live well on 35k in mass
>
>
>
Clave
>
> "Bill T" <wct...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> news:4b5544e9$0$13653$9a6e...@news.newshosting.com...
>> On 1/18/2010 9:19 PM, Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:
>>> "Bill T"<wct...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>>> news:4b553cd3$0$3793$9a6e...@news.newshosting.com...
>>>> On 1/18/2010 8:47 PM, Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I thought you were living well on $35K a year.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Why the hell would you think I made 35 k a year?
>>>>> You an idiot?
>>>>> Well, yes, you are.
>>>>> I own a house in Mass.
>>>>> Short of trading down, I need about 50k a year just to function.
>>>>> I like to do more than that
>>>>
>>>> 35, 50, 75, whatever.
>>> 75k is poor?
>>
>>
>> Did I say 75K was poor? For you, it would be a jackpot.
>
> Not really, no
>
> What part of your ass do you pull these numbers from?
>
> What part of
>> Mass. do you live in? Can't be Cambridge or Beacon hill.
> No.
> I've posted about it.
> I own a house in Lawrence
Median income $28k
http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/genInfo.php?locIndex=2999
Jim
Beldin the Sorcerer
Jimbo, you fucking moron
The house bill didn't pass without abortion restrictions added as payoffs to
right wing Dems.
We KNOW you're a fucking imbecile, jimbo, we do.
But FUCK
WASHINGTON - A bipartisan House coalition voted Saturday to prohibit
coverage of abortions in a new government-run health care plan that
Democrats would establish to compete with private insurers.
The 240-194 vote on an amendment by Rep. Bart Stupak, D-Mich., was a blow to
liberals, who would have allowed the Obama administration and its successors
to decide whether abortions would be covered by the government plan.
Sixty-four Democrats joined 176 Republicans in favor of the prohibition.
Stupak's measure also would bar anyone getting federal health subsidies from
purchasing private insurance polices that included abortion coverage.
"Let us stand together on principle - no public funding for abortions, no
public funding for insurance policies that pay for abortions," Stupak urged
fellow lawmakers before the vote.
The amendment would bar the new government insurance plan from covering
abortions, except in cases of rape, incest, or where the life of the mother
is in danger. The Democrats' original legislation would have allowed the
government plan to cover abortions, if the Health and Human Services
secretary decided it should.
The amendment also would prohibit people who receive new federal health
subsidies from buying insurance plans that include abortion coverage.
The Democrats' original bill would have allowed people getting federal
subsidies to pay for abortion coverage with their own money. Abortion
opponents dismissed that as an accounting gimmick.
Abortion rights advocates called the measure the biggest setback to women's
reproductive rights in decades. Anti-abortion Democrats forced House leaders
to bring it up for a vote by threatening to oppose the underlying bill, and
efforts to reach a compromise fell apart Friday night
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/08/strict-abortion-ban-inclu_n_349957.html
>
> Still, it's impressive the way you pretend to channel Jim Clyburn.
No, what's impressive is how you channel a cross between larry liberal and
larry the cable guy
>
Clave
<...>
>> Still, it's impressive the way you pretend to channel Jim Clyburn.
>
> No, what's impressive is how you channel a cross between larry liberal and
> larry the cable guy
It's really amazing how you naively insist in your own head that the House
vote calculus doesn't change if Brown wins.
Jim
Beldin the Sorcerer
***
No it isn't.
The care is excellent.
Our health HABITS and BEHAVIORS suck
Bill T
On 1/18/2010 10:00 PM, Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:
> "Bill T"<wct...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>> Did I say 75K was poor? For you, it would be a jackpot.
>
> Not really, no
>
> What part of your ass do you pull these numbers from?
>
> What part of
>> Mass. do you live in? Can't be Cambridge or Beacon hill.
> No.
> I've posted about it.
> I own a house in Lawrence
Lawrence. No comment.
.
>
> My IQ is 136
I find that very, very difficult to believe. Most people with IQ=136 are
recognized poker authors by now.
>>> I have stated any number of times that I only play on my nights off.
You should do something worthwhile with your time, especially with an IQ
of 136. Unless your "hypothyroidism" makes you house-bound and stupid.
>> Every night? Maybe the economy will pick up soon and they can give you
>> work more than every second week.
> You're drunk AND stupid
> I have had 2 nights a week off.
> Alas, recent overtime cuts have made it 3 recently
So, you *are* a dumb schmuck night tech-support guy. But! You make $50K
a year! And you have a house in Lawrence, Massachusetts!
> There's any number of posts about home games I was unable to play because I
> had to work
You can always quit.
>>
>>>>
>>>> I know hard-working upstanding guys who do carpentry around here for
>>>> $35k
>>>> last year, and do their best to keep their lives and families together.
>>>> Anything wrong with that, sport?
>>>>
>>> Nothing wrong with it.
>>> It's just below median and insufficient in most parts of the country
Jesus H Christ. Even in my neck of the woods there are plenty of people
making do on $35k a year. They go without medical insurance, they hit
the food banks occasionally, they work their butts off, not sitting in
front of a computer like you.
>>
>> WTF? 50K makes you OK in Mass but $35K is not in the rest of the country?
>
> Idiot boy.
> 50k is the median income in the COUNTRY
Bull shit.
> 23k is the goddamn poverty level for a family of 4
> It's unlikely someone earning 35k can take care of a family with a home on
> 35k
Yet many people do. Plus, we were talking about *one* person - you, not
a family of 4.
>>>> Am I am an idiot? I certainly feel like it whenever I reply to you.
>>> You look like it when you make idiotic claims
>>
>> What claims have I made?
> That someone could live well on 35k in mass
I said I thought *you* could live well at that level. You are a single,
socially isolated tech-support guy in a poor town. $35K should be plenty.
Now go take your thyroid meds, you cretin.
Beldin the Sorcerer
> Say, this is fun.
>
> On 1/18/2010 10:00 PM, Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:
>> "Bill T"<wct...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>
>>> Did I say 75K was poor? For you, it would be a jackpot.
>>
>> Not really, no
>>
>> What part of your ass do you pull these numbers from?
>>
>> What part of
>>> Mass. do you live in? Can't be Cambridge or Beacon hill.
>> No.
>> I've posted about it.
>> I own a house in Lawrence
>
> Lawrence. No comment.
It's improved considerably since we moved here. In 2006 my zip code had the
highest 5 year rate of appreciation in home prices in the state
When we moved here it had a bad rep.
We've had no issues the 10 years we've been here
> .
>>
>> My IQ is 136
>
> I find that very, very difficult to believe. Most people with IQ=136 are
> recognized poker authors by now.
>
funny guy
>>>> I have stated any number of times that I only play on my nights off.
>
> You should do something worthwhile with your time, especially with an IQ
> of 136. Unless your "hypothyroidism" makes you house-bound and stupid.
Hard to do a lot at 3am
I enjoy winning at tournaments
>
>>> Every night? Maybe the economy will pick up soon and they can give you
>>> work more than every second week.
>> You're drunk AND stupid
>> I have had 2 nights a week off.
>> Alas, recent overtime cuts have made it 3 recently
>
> So, you *are* a dumb schmuck night tech-support guy.
Not even slightly
Never done tech support
But! You make $50K
> a year! And you have a house in Lawrence, Massachusetts!
No, last year I earned over 60k
How much over depends on how you want to count compensation, I suppose
>
>
>> There's any number of posts about home games I was unable to play because
>> I
>> had to work
>
> You can always quit.
My creditors and utility suppliers beg to differ
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I know hard-working upstanding guys who do carpentry around here for
>>>>> $35k
>>>>> last year, and do their best to keep their lives and families
>>>>> together.
>>>>> Anything wrong with that, sport?
>>>>>
>>>> Nothing wrong with it.
>>>> It's just below median and insufficient in most parts of the country
>
> Jesus H Christ. Even in my neck of the woods there are plenty of people
> making do on $35k a year. They go without medical insurance, they hit the
> food banks occasionally, they work their butts off, not sitting in front
> of a computer like you.
Asshole, I don't work sitting in front of a computer
10 years ago, I was working 85 hours a week at two jobs to save money to get
to a house.
Given my overtime cut, I may be doing it again soon.
How many idiotic assumptions will you make?
>
>
>>>
>>> WTF? 50K makes you OK in Mass but $35K is not in the rest of the
>>> country?
>>
>> Idiot boy.
>> 50k is the median income in the COUNTRY
>
> Bull shit.
Retard, I CITED it
Mother of goddamn CHRIST, are you THAT stupid?
>
>> 23k is the goddamn poverty level for a family of 4
>
>> It's unlikely someone earning 35k can take care of a family with a home
>> on
>> 35k
>
> Yet many people do. Plus, we were talking about *one* person - you, not a
> family of 4.
Moron, I have a family
It's herself and two dogs, but it's still a family
A self employed carpenter is best served living in the family basement
>
>
>>>>> Am I am an idiot? I certainly feel like it whenever I reply to you.
>>>> You look like it when you make idiotic claims
>>>
>>> What claims have I made?
>> That someone could live well on 35k in mass
>
> I said I thought *you* could live well at that level. You are a single,
> socially isolated tech-support guy in a poor town. $35K should be plenty.
Wow, you're a shithead
Last year, fuckhead, I discussed at LENGTH how my Dearest darling beloved
sweetiepie had to have a lobe of her lung removed because they found what
turned out to be a carcenoid tumer there.
Why the HELL would you think I was single, or in tech support?
Too many drugs?
>
> Now go take your thyroid meds, you cretin.
Ok, you're an imbecile
You take them once a day when you get up
Do you have a clue at all?
>
Gary Carson
> On Jan 18 2010 9:34 PM, raven1 wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:19:47 -0800 (PST), Alim Nassor
> > <alimn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > >On Jan 19, 8:13�am, hanks <adriennebuus...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> On Jan 18, 3:09�pm, "susan" <hotda...@charter.net> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > "hanks" <adriennebuus...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > >>
> > >>
>news:27fdfbab-5a3c-463a...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> > >>
> > >> > > Brown will beat Coakley tomorrow so you don't need
> > >> > > to crow about it tomorrow Irish(not American) Mike.
> > >> > > You heard it here first.
> > >> > > hanks
> > >>
> > >> > Do you think it means anything?
> > >>
> > >> It means healthcare is dead!!!
> > >> hanks
> > >
> > >Nope, not health care. A massive tax program that would ruin the
> > >finest health care system in the world will be what is dead.
> >
> > The stats don't support the US having the finest health care system in
> > the world. Far from it.
>
> Name the better ones, and the bases on which they are determined
> preferable. Then explain why people of means from all over the world come
> here for medical care.
People of means in the United States go to Mexico for medical care.
For no base of measurement you can choose is the US on top.
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Bill T
On 1/19/2010 12:17 AM, Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:
> When we moved here it had a bad rep.
> We've had no issues the 10 years we've been here
Why would you? Lawrence is a nice town for single guys making poverty wages.
>>> My IQ is 136
>>
>> I find that very, very difficult to believe. Most people with IQ=136 are
>> recognized poker authors by now.
>>
> funny guy
I was serious. If my IQ was that high, I would've published a few poker
books by now. So your IQ can't be 136. Wait - Bayes' theorem and all.
> I enjoy winning at tournaments
Baye be damned - go write a poker book, Sparky.
>
> Never done tech support
IQ not high enough, Sparky?
> No, last year I earned over 60k
> How much over depends on how you want to count compensation, I suppose
60K is a lot of money. I haven't earned 60K for many many years. You
should put it all in the Norwegian kroner. Or not.
>>
>>> There's any number of posts about home games I was unable to play because
>>> I
>>> had to work
>>
>> You can always quit.
>
> My creditors and utility suppliers beg to differ
Well, if you had only followed my advice and put it all in Norwegian
currency, you would have been OK. What are they going do: go to Oslo?
>
> Asshole, I don't work sitting in front of a computer
> 10 years ago, I was working 85 hours a week at two jobs to save money to get
> to a house.
> Given my overtime cut, I may be doing it again soon.
85 hours a week??!! Wow! I wish I had only worked that little when I was
young. 85 hours! LOL!!!! I can't do it now, and neither can you. You
will be on welfare (assuming you are pregnant) before you work 85 hours
a week again.
> How many idiotic assumptions will you make?
None. My assumptions are purely based on your posts.
>
> Retard, I CITED it
> Mother of goddamn CHRIST, are you THAT stupid?
He *cited* it. He knows how to google. Give the boy a raise.
>
> Moron, I have a family
> It's herself and two dogs, but it's still a family
Oh fuck's sake, a dog is not a kid. Everyone around here has some dog,
usually some retarded yelping kind. (OT: if you are going to have a loud
dog, make sure it is some real, large-sized dog, not some fucking midget
terrier that screeches all day long.)
Oh wait- you said *2* dogs. That's gotta be some kind of family. Some
pathetic resemblance of a family, but a family. Geez. Get a parakeet and
you all can be the fucking Lawrence, MA, family of the year.
> A self employed carpenter is best served living in the family basement
So, you have never done real work in your life, huh?
> Wow, you're a shithead
For a guy with an IQ of 136 (though no poker books), your invectives
seem limited to "shithead", "fuckhead" and "asshole". Since you earn
over $60K (depending on incentives), can you buy a fucking dictionary
and thesaurus?
> Last year, fuckhead,
There ya go!
I discussed at LENGTH how my Dearest darling beloved
> sweetiepie had to have a lobe of her lung removed because they found what
> turned out to be a carcenoid tumer there.
You think we care enough to remember what you posted one year ago?
>
> Why the HELL would you think I was single, or in tech support?
Ummm....I read a few of your innumerable posts?
> Too many drugs?
Don't talk about drugs. You don't even know what to do about your own
"hypothyroidism".
>
>>
>> Now go take your thyroid meds, you cretin.
> Ok, you're an imbecile >
> You take them once a day when you get up
You can take them anytime of the day at all, you fucking idiot.
Thyroxine has a very long half-life. (Half-life: look it up, it is on
Google.)
Maybe you should have a long talk with your endocrinologist. Why would a
youngish guy like you be hypothyroid in the first place? Your doc prob.
just rolled his eyes when he first saw you and placated you with some
thyroid pills.
Beldin the Sorcerer
> More fun. I cannot resist. Forgive me, Lord.
You mean you're not really this goddamn dumb, you're faking it?
>
> On 1/19/2010 12:17 AM, Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:
>
>> When we moved here it had a bad rep.
>> We've had no issues the 10 years we've been here
>
> Why would you? Lawrence is a nice town for single guys making poverty
> wages.
I'm sure it is
It does ok for a stable family doing well, too
>
>>>> My IQ is 136
>>>
>>> I find that very, very difficult to believe. Most people with IQ=136 are
>>> recognized poker authors by now.
>>>
>> funny guy
>
> I was serious.
Yahoo
If my IQ was that high, I would've published a few poker
> books by now. So your IQ can't be 136. Wait - Bayes' theorem and all.
>
>
>> I enjoy winning at tournaments
>
> Baye be damned - go write a poker book, Sparky.
Naw
Just for the RGP crowds
>
>>
>> Never done tech support
>
> IQ not high enough, Sparky?
Not enough money in it
>
>
>> No, last year I earned over 60k
>> How much over depends on how you want to count compensation, I suppose
>
> 60K is a lot of money. I haven't earned 60K for many many years. You
> should put it all in the Norwegian kroner. Or not.
Most of it goes to bills
This IS the American way
>
>>>
>>>> There's any number of posts about home games I was unable to play
>>>> because
>>>> I
>>>> had to work
>>>
>>> You can always quit.
>>
>> My creditors and utility suppliers beg to differ
>
> Well, if you had only followed my advice and put it all in Norwegian
> currency, you would have been OK. What are they going do: go to Oslo?
Foreclose on the house
>
>>
>> Asshole, I don't work sitting in front of a computer
>> 10 years ago, I was working 85 hours a week at two jobs to save money to
>> get
>> to a house.
>> Given my overtime cut, I may be doing it again soon.
>
> 85 hours a week??!! Wow! I wish I had only worked that little when I was
> young. 85 hours! LOL!!!! I can't do it now, and neither can you. You will
> be on welfare (assuming you are pregnant) before you work 85 hours a week
> again.
I can do it.
I don't want to do it
But I can.
Up till last week I was working 55-60 at the one job
Finding a job for my overnights off would be ideal. I shall, of course, do
what it take
>
>
>> How many idiotic assumptions will you make?
>
> None. My assumptions are purely based on your posts.
No, my posts have directly contradicted your assumptions
Therefore you're either a liar or insane
>>
>
>> Retard, I CITED it
>> Mother of goddamn CHRIST, are you THAT stupid?
>
> He *cited* it. He knows how to google. Give the boy a raise.
Just pull your head outta your ass
All I ask is that
>
>>
>> Moron, I have a family
>> It's herself and two dogs, but it's still a family
>
> Oh fuck's sake, a dog is not a kid.
In this household, they are.
We tried adopting from DSS, but her health got worse and the doctor's
wouldn't sign off on her
Everyone around here has some dog,
> usually some retarded yelping kind. (OT: if you are going to have a loud
> dog, make sure it is some real, large-sized dog, not some fucking midget
> terrier that screeches all day long.)
MSPCA rescues
Lab Mixes, both of them
>
> Oh wait- you said *2* dogs. That's gotta be some kind of family. Some
> pathetic resemblance of a family, but a family. Geez. Get a parakeet and
> you all can be the fucking Lawrence, MA, family of the year.
You could get a dress and turn tricks in Central square, too
>
>> A self employed carpenter is best served living in the family basement
>
> So, you have never done real work in your life, huh?
Of COURSE I do real work
What the fuck is wrong with you?
>
>
>> Wow, you're a shithead
>
> For a guy with an IQ of 136 (though no poker books), your invectives seem
> limited to "shithead", "fuckhead" and "asshole". Since you earn over $60K
> (depending on incentives), can you buy a fucking dictionary and thesaurus?
I often confine myself to the colloquial venacular, especially whilst
addressing the plebs of RGP.
After all, it does one no good whatever to use an invective that cannot be
understood, both by the party to whom it is addressed as well as the
gathering throng of on-lookers
>
>> Last year, fuckhead,
>
> There ya go!
Creeping memory loss?
Semi-retarded it is!
>
> I discussed at LENGTH how my Dearest darling beloved
>> sweetiepie had to have a lobe of her lung removed because they found what
>> turned out to be a carcenoid tumer there.
>
> You think we care enough to remember what you posted one year ago?
Last year, not a year ago
Any non-shithead would retain something like that
>>
>> Why the HELL would you think I was single, or in tech support?
>
> Ummm....I read a few of your innumerable posts?
And couldn't figure any of them out
Show me, shithead, ANYTHING I've posted that'd make you think I was in tech
support.
OBVIOUSLY you don't pay attention at all, to think I'm single.
Hell Paul "Poppinfresh" Popinjay has yelled at me multiple times for ALWAYS
talking about my beloved; yet you, the semi-retarded wonder can't spot those
posts?
One suspect a giant fibber be thee
>>Too many drugs?
>on't talk about drugs. You don't even know what to do about your own
"hypothyroidism".
No, shithead, YOU don't.
".
>>
>>>
>>> Now go take your thyroid meds, you cretin.
>> Ok, you're an imbecile >
>> You take them once a day when you get up
>
> You can take them anytime of the day at all, you fucking idiot.
Retard, you take them once a day.
Retard,the recommended procedure is to take them when you first get up for
the day.
You can't eat for 4 hours prior to taking them.
You can't eat for an hour AFTER taking them.
The synthetic thyroid hormone isn't absorbed properly otherwise.
GODDAMN, moron, what the FUCK is wrong with you.
You too stupid to read a pill bottle too?
> Thyroxine has a very long half-life. (Half-life: look it up, it is on
> Google.)
Moron, half life has to do with radioactive materials
>
> Maybe you should have a long talk with your endocrinologist. Why would a
> youngish guy like you be hypothyroid in the first place? Your doc prob.
> just rolled his eyes when he first saw you and placated you with some
> thyroid pills.
Who the hell, shit for brains, said I was young?
I had a blood test in 2006 for the physical required to try and adopt
through DSS
Everything came up normal except my TSH levels
They were 25. 27 on the retest 2 days later
You MUST be trolling.
It'd be impossible to be this dumb
>
Gary Carson
The WHO measured health system efficiency, how efficient the system was in
using inputs. Education of the populace is one of the inputs. If our
habits and behaviors are the problem it suggests they're right -- we don't
efficiently use our educational system to improve the health of the
population.
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On 1/19/2010 2:25 AM, Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:
> "Bill T"<wct...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> news:4b557875$0$13691$9a6e...@news.newshosting.com...
>> More fun. I cannot resist. Forgive me, Lord.
> For lying?
No, for enjoying beating the crap out of an an obvious social,
intellectual, and prob. physical inferior. That is just so un-Christian.
Luckily, I am an atheist.
> You mean you're not really this goddamn dumb, you're faking it?
You say this in every second post to everyone. Want to try something
new? Oh wait, that would take IQ>136.
>> Why would you? Lawrence is a nice town for single guys making poverty
>> wages.
> I'm sure it is
> It does ok for a stable family doing well, too
Naw, they move.
>>
>>> No, last year I earned over 60k
>>> How much over depends on how you want to count compensation, I suppose
>>
>> 60K is a lot of money. I haven't earned 60K for many many years. You
>> should put it all in the Norwegian kroner. Or not.
> Most of it goes to bills
> This IS the American way
So , 60K (depending on how you count compensation), and you spend it
all? In Lawrence, MA? What did you guys do? Hit KFC every night, and
Taco Bell for the special date night?
>>>
>>> Asshole,
There ya go with your anal fixation again.
I don't work sitting in front of a computer
Of course you don't, you only post here 22 hours a day.
>
> I can do it.
> I don't want to do it
> But I can.
> Up till last week I was working 55-60 at the one job
You were prob sitting on your ass 30 of those hours. There is a
difference in hustling 100 hours a week and clocking in like you do.
> Finding a job for my overnights off would be ideal. I shall, of course, do
> what it take
You can move up to 1-2 limit hold 'em.
>> Oh fuck's sake, a dog is not a kid.
>
> In this household, they are.
That is so sad.
> Of COURSE I do real work
> What the fuck is wrong with you?
Then why denigrate carpenters who make "only" 35K a year?
>>
>>> Wow, you're a shithead
Yeah, "shithead", "shithead", "shithead". What the fuck is wrong with
you? Oh that's right, you have a thyroid problem
>>
>> For a guy with an IQ of 136 (though no poker books), your invectives seem
>> limited to "shithead", "fuckhead" and "asshole". Since you earn over $60K
>> (depending on incentives), can you buy a fucking dictionary and thesaurus?
> I often confine myself to the colloquial venacular, especially whilst
> addressing the plebs of RGP.
> After all, it does one no good whatever to use an invective that cannot be
> understood, both by the party to whom it is addressed as well as the
> gathering throng of on-lookers
"shithead", "fuckhead","asshole" are the best an IQ of 136 can come up
with? I estimate your IQ at 106 max.
>
>> There ya go!
> Creeping memory loss?
> Semi-retarded it is!
WTF are you talking about, shithead?
>
>>
>> I discussed at LENGTH how my Dearest darling beloved
>>> sweetiepie had to have a lobe of her lung removed because they found what
>>> turned out to be a carcenoid tumer there.
It is "carcinoid", shithead, and a metastatic carcinoid to the lung
necessitates palliative chemo, shithead, and her operation made little
difference to her survival, shithead. Unless she didn't have a real
carcinoid, shithead. You don't really have a clue about anything, shithead.
>>
>> You think we care enough to remember what you posted one year ago?
> Last year, not a year ago
> Any non-shithead would retain something like that
You are one of stupidest posters here. Why would I remember anything you
posted even a week ago?
>
>>>
>>> Why the HELL would you think I was single, or in tech support?
Because you come across as a total shithead.
>>
>> Ummm....I read a few of your innumerable posts?
> And couldn't figure any of them out
> Show me, shithead, ANYTHING I've posted that'd make you think I was in tech
> support.
Because you keep saying "shithead" in every fucking post. Shithead.
> OBVIOUSLY you don't pay attention at all, to think I'm single.
> Hell Paul "Poppinfresh" Popinjay has yelled at me multiple times for ALWAYS
> talking about my beloved; yet you, the semi-retarded wonder can't spot those
> posts?
That's because PP is always on the prowl for fresh young meat like you,
especially since you have repeatedly indicated your desire to take it in
the ass.
> Retard, you take them once a day.
> Retard,the recommended procedure is to take them when you first get up for
> the day.
> You can't eat for 4 hours prior to taking them.
> You can't eat for an hour AFTER taking them.
> The synthetic thyroid hormone isn't absorbed properly otherwise.
LOL. Take them once a day anytime, you fucking moron. You don't even
know what the fuck you are talking about. I mean, you shithead.
>
> GODDAMN, moron, what the FUCK is wrong with you.
> You too stupid to read a pill bottle too?
LOL. You are such a fucking idiot. Oh, and a shithead too.
>
>> Thyroxine has a very long half-life. (Half-life: look it up, it is on
>> Google.)
> Moron, half life has to do with radioactive materials
LOL. You are way beyond your level here, sonny.
I really should give up here. You don't know what the fuck you are
talking about, shithead, and I am just having fun. It is really not nice
of me to toy with you like this, but I really think that you are an
idiot. And a shithead. LOL.
Beldin the Sorcerer
"Gary Carson" <garyc...@pokercultureblog.com> wrote in message
news:j1hg27x...@recgroups.com...
We also try not to lock everyone up forever.
This leads to this problem
http://blogs.wsj.com/numbersguy/does-the-us-lead-in-life-expectancy-223/
Life expectancy has become a popular measure for comparing different
countries' health-care systems. Keeping people alive is, of course, an
important goal of medicine - and the fact that the U.S. ranks below dozens
of countries has served as fodder for politicians angling to revamp the U.S.
system.
However, two economists have argued in a recent book that life expectancy is
a lousy way to compare two countries. Murders, suicides and accidents can
have a big effect on life-expectancy stats because their victims die
younger, on average, than victims of disease. And, they argue, the
health-care system can't do much to prevent those kinds of deaths. After
adjusting for those kinds of deaths, the U.S. ranks at or near the top of
developed nations in life expectancy, health economists Robert Ohsfeldt (of
the Texas A&M Health Science Center) and John Schneider (of Health Economics
Consulting Group LLC) write in "The Business of Health," a 2006 book
published by the conservative American Enterprise Institute think tank.
The notion is politically significant. The U.S.'s poor ranking in life
expectancy is a key tenet in filmmaker Michael Moore's excoriation of
American health care in "Sicko," and in calls by reformers for broader
access to medical care - calls being heeded by the leading Democratic
presidential candidates. Yet the U.S. has an unusually high rate of deaths
from accidents and homicides, compared with other developed countries. (For
instance, transport-accident deaths are three times higher in the U.S. than
in the U.K., according to the World Health Organization, while the murder
rate is 10 to 12 times greater.) Subtract out these deaths and suicide -
where the U.S. is at or below average - and the American health-care system
doesn't look so bad. Hence, the adjusted life-expectancy rankings have been
mentioned in several conservative publications critical of health-care
reform, including National Review and City Journal.
The bloggest goes on to raise some questions about some of the methodology
used, and he has some legitimate points.
Facts are, however, that Murder, suicide, and traffic accidents alone are
big American causes of death, statistically (significantly) higher than
other Western countries, on average.
We don't lead the list in every... but we have much more of a net impact on
our life expectency
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Traffic_related_deaths_-_Road_fatalities_per_capita.svg
Beldin the Sorcerer
> Too many softballs to resist:
>
> On 1/19/2010 2:25 AM, Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:
>> "Bill T"<wct...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>> news:4b557875$0$13691$9a6e...@news.newshosting.com...
>>> More fun. I cannot resist. Forgive me, Lord.
>> For lying?
>
> No, for enjoying beating the crap out of an an obvious social,
> intellectual, and prob. physical inferior. That is just so un-Christian.
> Luckily, I am an atheist.
Shit for brains, your batting 0.000
You clearly THINK you know what you're talking about, but in actual fact are
clueless.
I know why I'M up all night, why the fuck are you?
Too cold to peek in the neighbor's windows?
>
>
>> You mean you're not really this goddamn dumb, you're faking it?
>
> You say this in every second post to everyone. Want to try something new?
> Oh wait, that would take IQ>136.
Well, shit, in your case you're going out of your way to be stupid
>
>
>
>>> Why would you? Lawrence is a nice town for single guys making poverty
>>> wages.
>> I'm sure it is
>> It does ok for a stable family doing well, too
>
> Naw, they move.
Not in the last three years.
Real estate bust hurt Lawrence.
We tried to sell, got one offer and decided to sit tight.
We may again, but she's fond of her doctors and needs checks regularly for
the next year or two for the carcenoid and has other health issues.
>
>
>
>>>
>>>> No, last year I earned over 60k
>>>> How much over depends on how you want to count compensation, I suppose
>>>
>>> 60K is a lot of money. I haven't earned 60K for many many years. You
>>> should put it all in the Norwegian kroner. Or not.
>> Most of it goes to bills
>> This IS the American way
>
> So , 60K (depending on how you count compensation), and you spend it all?
> In Lawrence, MA? What did you guys do? Hit KFC every night, and Taco Bell
> for the special date night?
I didn't say I spent it all.
I said most of it goes to bills
10% goes into the 401k, or did till the hour cut.
The mortgage, heat, utilities, food, auto insurance and car related
expenses.
Home upkeep.... you know what it costs to paint a house? Re-do a retaining
wall?
Vet bills, of course.
Gifts to friends and family and charitable contributions.
We have a small (non-retirement) savings, of course.
We tend to avoid Taco bell/KFC.
Around here, most of them are in the same building.
The 401k plan is currently in 6 figures... of course, I'll need 7 to retire
>
>>>>
>>>> Asshole,
>
> There ya go with your anal fixation again.
>
>
> I don't work sitting in front of a computer
>
> Of course you don't, you only post here 22 hours a day.
Wow
You can't even look at posting times
Lemme make it simple for you, idiot boy.
If I have a couple of hours in the morning, I check here.
On my nights off, I post throughout the night while playing with her on
various game sites, then while playing tournaments
It's never 22, and more than occasionally it's zero, if we have errands to
run or she has doctor's to see.
But we've established your powers of observation are sorely limited
>
>>
>> I can do it.
>> I don't want to do it
>> But I can.
>> Up till last week I was working 55-60 at the one job
>
> You were prob sitting on your ass 30 of those hours.
Yah
You're beyond stupid.
I've had one job in my decades of work experience that had me sitting to do
most of it.
I don't currently.
I'm the most productive employee in my company, doing the job I do.
I'm quite good at finding the fastest way to do something
There is a
> difference in hustling 100 hours a week and clocking in like you do.
Idiot boy, if you ever pull your cranium out of your rectal passage, lemme
know
>
>
>> Finding a job for my overnights off would be ideal. I shall, of course,
>> do
>> what it take
>
> You can move up to 1-2 limit hold 'em.
No bankroll.
I could go to Foxwoods and play 10-20, where I won the average 1BB an hour
for about 5 months, till 4 bad sessions in a row killed the bankroll (I
started with $250, far FAR too little, and took out $100 a week for
groceries and such... locked in a profit, of course, but didn't build the
roll quickly enough)
I am not, however, going to risk playing with scared money.
If we sell the house and trade down for cash, with a cushion (a plan we're
discussing) I will try it.
>
>
>>> Oh fuck's sake, a dog is not a kid.
>>
>> In this household, they are.
>
> That is so sad.
She can't have kids; we can't adopt because of her health.
You ever find a woman who can stand you, ask her to explain that to you.
They're our kids, and if you wanna shit on me, fine, but it makes her happy
and that's all I can do, and therefore all I care about.
>
>
>> Of COURSE I do real work
>> What the fuck is wrong with you?
>
> Then why denigrate carpenters who make "only" 35K a year?
I didn't DENEGRATE them.
I explained the income level is too sparse to own a home with in most of the
country.
>>>
>>>> Wow, you're a shithead
>
> Yeah, "shithead", "shithead", "shithead". What the fuck is wrong with
> you? Oh that's right, you have a thyroid problem
That doesn't make me call you a shithead.
You posting stupidity, OTOH, THAT does.
>>>
>>> For a guy with an IQ of 136 (though no poker books), your invectives
>>> seem
>>> limited to "shithead", "fuckhead" and "asshole". Since you earn over
>>> $60K
>>> (depending on incentives), can you buy a fucking dictionary and
>>> thesaurus?
>> I often confine myself to the colloquial venacular, especially whilst
>> addressing the plebs of RGP.
>> After all, it does one no good whatever to use an invective that cannot
>> be
>> understood, both by the party to whom it is addressed as well as the
>> gathering throng of on-lookers
>
>
> "shithead", "fuckhead","asshole" are the best an IQ of 136 can come up
> with? I estimate your IQ at 106 max.
Again, it is clear that the polysyllabic discourse is well beyond your
ability to integrate into your logic processing centers, so of course I fall
back on the tired tirades understood by the masses.
It serves me ill to use wordage not comprehended by the one I am slighting,
nor does it score points with the onlooking crowd of blood-lusting types, if
the lunge-and-parry is beyond them
>>
>
>
>>> There ya go!
>> Creeping memory loss?
>> Semi-retarded it is!
>
> WTF are you talking about, shithead?
You, son.
You said you were semi-retarded
>>
>>>
>>> I discussed at LENGTH how my Dearest darling beloved
>>>> sweetiepie had to have a lobe of her lung removed because they found
>>>> what
>>>> turned out to be a carcenoid tumer there.
>
> It is "carcinoid", shithead, and a metastatic carcinoid to the lung
> necessitates palliative chemo, shithead, and her operation made little
> difference to her survival, shithead.
For fucks sake, retard, shut the fuck up about your stupidity.
A carcinoid tumor DOESN'T require chemo, IS ONLY treated by removal, and
it's clear to ALL now you don't have a goddamned CLUE what the fuck you're
talking about.
RATHER than let you shoot yourself in the face 15 times, let's cite :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carcinoid
[edit] Gastrointestinal
Carcinoid tumours are apudomas that arise from the enterochromaffin cells
throughout the gut.
Over two-thirds of carcinoid tumors are found in the gastrointestinal
tract.[3]
Some sources list the appendix as the most common site.[4]
[edit] Other sites / metastases
In cases of metastases it can lead to carcinoid syndrome. This is due to the
over-production of many substances, including serotonin,[citation needed]
which is released into the systemic circulation, and which can lead to
symptoms of cutaneous flushing, diarrhea, bronchoconstriction and
right-sided cardiac valve disease. It is estimated that less than 10% of
carcinoid patients will develop carcinoid syndrome.
Carcinoid tumors are also found in the lungs.
Most carcinoids are asymptomatic through the natural lifetime and are
discovered only upon surgery for unrelated reasons; these are called
coincidental carcinoids. But all carcinoids are considered to have malignant
potential.
About 10% of carcinoids secrete excessive levels of a range of hormones,
most notably serotonin (5-HT), causing:
a.. Flushing
b.. Diarrhea
c.. Wheezing
d.. Abdominal cramping
e.. Peripheral edema
The outflow of serotonin can cause a depletion of tryptophan leading to
niacin deficiency. Niacin deficiency, aka pellagra, is associated with
dermatitis, dementia, and diarrhea.
(My insert here : She had a number of the above symptoms... her wheezing was
thought due to asthma, but that has declined considerably since they removed
the lobe of her lung)
This constellation of symptoms is called carcinoid syndrome or (if acute)
carcinoid crisis. Occasionally, haemorrhage or the effects of tumour bulk
are the presenting symptoms. The most common originating sites of carcinoid
is the small bowel, particularly the ileum; carcinoid tumors are the most
common malignancy of the appendix. Carcinoid tumours may rarely arise from
the ovary or thymus.[6]
[edit] Treatment
Surgery, if feasible, is the only curative therapy.
(My insert here SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU MORON, PLEASE! Some idiot might think
you have a goddamned clue and you might get them fucking KILLED from your
moronic claims)
If the tumor has metastasized (most commonly, to the liver) and considered
incurable, there are some promising treatment modalities, such as
radiolabeled octreotide,[citation needed], for arresting the growth of the
tumors and prolonging survival in patients with liver metastases, though
these are currently experimental.
Chemotherapy is of little benefit and is generally not indicated.
(READ THAT about 100 times so you NEVER post abotu Chemo again in this case,
you fucking MORON)
Unless she didn't have a real
> carcinoid, shithead. You don't really have a clue about anything,
> shithead.
Well, butt-bitch, you just took it in the chute and looked like a retard.
I paid attention when she was going through this.
You clearly don't have a fucking clue
>>>
>>> You think we care enough to remember what you posted one year ago?
>> Last year, not a year ago
>> Any non-shithead would retain something like that
>
> You are one of stupidest posters here. Why would I remember anything you
> posted even a week ago?
Well, you clearly like being fucked in the ass, because you keep coming back
for it
>>
>>>>
>>>> Why the HELL would you think I was single, or in tech support?
>
> Because you come across as a total shithead.
Naw, that's you, telling someone not to have surgery when it's the only
treatment and to do chemo when it won't help
>>>
>>> Ummm....I read a few of your innumerable posts?
>> And couldn't figure any of them out
>> Show me, shithead, ANYTHING I've posted that'd make you think I was in
>> tech
>> support.
>
> Because you keep saying "shithead" in every fucking post. Shithead.
Tech support guys do not, in general, call people shithead to their faces
>
>
>> OBVIOUSLY you don't pay attention at all, to think I'm single.
>> Hell Paul "Poppinfresh" Popinjay has yelled at me multiple times for
>> ALWAYS
>> talking about my beloved; yet you, the semi-retarded wonder can't spot
>> those
>> posts?
>
> That's because PP is always on the prowl for fresh young meat like you,
> especially since you have repeatedly indicated your desire to take it in
> the ass.
I'm not the one bending over and grabbing my ankles, looking semi-retarded
>
>
>
>> Retard, you take them once a day.
>> Retard,the recommended procedure is to take them when you first get up
>> for
>> the day.
>> You can't eat for 4 hours prior to taking them.
>> You can't eat for an hour AFTER taking them.
>> The synthetic thyroid hormone isn't absorbed properly otherwise.
>
> LOL. Take them once a day anytime, you fucking moron. You don't even know
> what the fuck you are talking about. I mean, you shithead.
Shithead, I can read the pill bottle
Obviously you can't
>
>>
>> GODDAMN, moron, what the FUCK is wrong with you.
>> You too stupid to read a pill bottle too?
>
> LOL. You are such a fucking idiot. Oh, and a shithead too.
Take Paul's cock out of your mouth; you're mumbling
>>
>>> Thyroxine has a very long half-life. (Half-life: look it up, it is on
>>> Google.)
>> Moron, half life has to do with radioactive materials
>
> LOL. You are way beyond your level here, sonny.
You've already gotten important shit backwards, fuckface
>
> I really should give up here. You don't know what the fuck you are talking
> about, shithead, and I am just having fun. It is really not nice of me to
> toy with you like this, but I really think that you are an idiot. And a
> shithead. LOL.
You keep looking like the semi-retarded wonder
You raise it to an art form
>
>
>
susan
"hanks"
>> Do you think it means anything?
>It means healthcare is dead!!!
>hanks
Actually I was thinking that a Republican win in Mass had a few more
implications that that.
Beldin the Sorcerer
"susan" <hotd...@charter.net> wrote in message
news:9Yh5n.11$z4...@newsfe03.iad...
The election has been turned into a referendum on health care.
He's quite possibly a one-and-done senator if he wins
>
>
Bill T
>>
>> I really should give up here. You don't know what the fuck you are talking
>> about, shithead, and I am just having fun. It is really not nice of me to
>> toy with you like this, but I really think that you are an idiot. And a
>> shithead. LOL.
> You keep looking like the semi-retarded wonder
> You raise it to an art form
>
Let me wrap it up:
It is well past morning where I am now(Nice), but I don't understand why
you are up all night. (My header probably reflects my VPN.) Take a rest,
man.
Beldin, I have probably read less than 5% of your posts, but you have to
be most stupid person I have ever encountered online or in real life.
You are also deliberately obnoxious, but it is your stupidity which
stands out most of all.
On factual issues with which I have more than a passing familiarity, you
are just dead wrong. On other issues, you are less than convincing.
Calling everyone a "shithead" does not help your arguments, esp. when it
is obvious that you are cognitively other-abled.
I just don't think you know what you are talking about most of the time.
That's fine. Our society also needs people like you.
Relax with your family of dogs. Take a break.
Beldin the Sorcerer
> On 1/19/2010 4:43 AM, Beldin the Sorcerer wr
>
>>>
>>> I really should give up here. You don't know what the fuck you are
>>> talking
>>> about, shithead, and I am just having fun. It is really not nice of me
>>> to
>>> toy with you like this, but I really think that you are an idiot. And a
>>> shithead. LOL.
>> You keep looking like the semi-retarded wonder
>> You raise it to an art form
>>
>
>
> Let me wrap it up:
>
> It is well past morning where I am now(Nice), but I don't understand why
> you are up all night. (My header probably reflects my VPN.) Take a rest,
> man.
I work third shift
I keep the same schedule on my nights off
>
> Beldin, I have probably read less than 5% of your posts, but you have to
> be most stupid person I have ever encountered online or in real life. You
> are also deliberately obnoxious, but it is your stupidity which stands out
> most of all.
Well, coming from a semi-retarded idiot, that doesn't say much
>
> On factual issues with which I have more than a passing familiarity, you
> are just dead wrong.
No, fuckhead, I'm not.
Moreover, I cited extensively on the one actual area of importance where you
got the answer 100% wrong.
If you don't know what the hell a carcinoid tumor is, don't fucking pretend
you do.
Someone might actually die because they buy into your stupidity.
Your beyond stupid; you're dangerous.
Pretending to know something about medicine when it's obvious you don't know
what the hell you're talking about.
Stating catagorically that Chemo is important and surgery does nothing, when
it's documentedly, and cited, as the reverse is beyond stupid.
If you actually ARE a doctor, you're an idiot and a quack. That oath you
took.... go review it
On other issues, you are less than convincing.
> Calling everyone a "shithead" does not help your arguments, esp. when it
> is obvious that you are cognitively other-abled.
Calling you "shithead" saves time.
You don't know a thing about hypothyroidism, you know LESS than nothing
about carcinoid tumors, and you're relatively clueless about income levels
in the US.
I don't normally bother to cite everything, but I did in this thread, and
you're still lubing up and begging for more up the chute.
It's a little scary
>
> I just don't think you know what you are talking about most of the time.
Much more than you did, as docuumented in this thread
Jerry Sturdivant
"Alim Nassor" <alimn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Jan 19, 8:13 am, hanks <adriennebuus...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jan 18, 3:09 pm, "susan" <hotda...@charter.net> wrote:
>>
>> > "hanks" <adriennebuus...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >news:27fdfbab-5a3c-463a...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > > Brown will beat Coakley tomorrow so you don't need
>> > > to crow about it tomorrow Irish(not American) Mike.
>> > > You heard it here first.
>> > > hanks
>>
>> > Do you think it means anything?
>>
>> It means healthcare is dead!!!
>> hanks
>
> Nope, not health care. A massive tax program that would ruin the
> finest health care system in the world will be what is dead.
Jeeze! There's somebody that still believes our healthcare system is good?
More proof you'll be left behind by watching just FOX.
Jerry 'n Vegas
Gary Carson
The book you cite is from people with a huge political ax to grind.
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BillB
"Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Median income in the US is 50k
uhhh..that is *household income*.
Alim Nassor
> "Alim Nassor" <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> - Show quoted text -
No FOX here, but I do have to put up with CNN bullshit.
Beldin the Sorcerer
Median income nationwide is 50k
Median income in Lawrence isn't that high, but I don't work here.
It's higher than 28k
I cited it.
This is a poor city; yes. I didn't grow up here, I moved here to buy a
house.
Most people here don't have a home.... they rent.
And, shithead, quoting 10 year old data is just stupid.
You ought to have a goddamn clue, when I cite 2008 info, that using 2000
data isn't going to cut it
Did you even NOTICE it was from 2000?
Beldin the Sorcerer
"BillB" <bo...@shaw1.ca> wrote in message
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Which implies (not incorrectly) that you need that much to afford a home.
Herself is unable to work. We have a home.
>
Beldin the Sorcerer
> Using any single outcome measure is a mistake.
stats is also a mistake
>
> The book you cite is from people with a huge political ax to grind.
Political or not, it's still true.
It isn't lack of care that lowers our life expectency, it's (largely) our
stupid choices.
Beldin the Sorcerer
The righties of Democrat persuasion aren't passing anything without their
abortion restrictions because they need to go home and get re-elected this
november.
Period, end of discussion. They only signed on to begin with because they
got what they needed. They all threatened to vote NO.
Whatever you think of this, if Brown wins (and I didn't vote for him today)
it's all done
>
Clave
Not according to the most recent census.
http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/genInfo.php?locIndex=2999
Jim
Clave
>
> "Clave" <ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
> news:hj3j1j$t52$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:hj3ib0$o8p$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>
>>> "Clave" <ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
>>
>> <...>
>>
>>>> Still, it's impressive the way you pretend to channel Jim Clyburn.
>>>
>>> No, what's impressive is how you channel a cross between larry liberal
>>> and larry the cable guy
>>
>> It's really amazing how you naively insist in your own head that the
>> House vote calculus doesn't change if Brown wins.
>
> Jimbo, you are in full moron mode today.
I guess you really need to believe that.
Jim
Beldin the Sorcerer
When the House Dems don't pass it, will you admit you're an idiot?
Probably not
Beldin the Sorcerer
And now you're CLEARLY a retard.
That's 2000 data
I JUST told you that, shit for brains
Are you too stupid to read?
It's not the most recent census, it's the most recent NATIONAL census
And it's 9 years old.
What the FUCK is wrong with you?
RichD
> > >The stats don't support the US having the finest
> > >health care system in the world.
>
> > Name the better ones, and the bases on which
> > they are determined preferable.
The european models claim to be lower cost;
what they are, is lower expenditure.
Their state programs deny granny treatment
at age 90 - she only lives 2 more months anyway,
what's the point?
Whereas in USA private plans, the kids pay
whatever it takes to keep granny from flat line.
Then the Big Brother worshippers say the
socialist model is lower cost. But they aren't
lying, mostly; they're so thick, they believe
everything they think.
> Out of control costs eat up 18% of every dollar we earn.
And, um, gummit monopoly is the path to
efficiency? In fact, even the Obamarxists have
admitted that line is a lie:
It's really an excuse for the biggest power grab in
american history.
> These costs have already helped to sink our auto
> industry.
No they didn't.
Nissan, Toyota, Honda are all doing fine.
> Canada, England, France, sweden, Denmayk, Finland
> are all better places to get sick.
But they are worse places to get well.
--
Rich
Clave
What's *truly* idiotic is your childish, anal, naive belief that anyone in
possession of an opinion you differ with is an idiot.
Jim
Clave
>
> "Clave" <ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
> news:hj5ur7$90s$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:hj5pau$3c5$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>
>>> "Clave" <ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
>>> news:hj3i68$nms$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
<...>
>>>> Median income $28k
>>> No it isn't
>>> Median income nationwide is 50k
>>> Median income in Lawrence isn't that high, but I don't work here.
>>> It's higher than 28k
>>
>> Not according to the most recent census.
> Retard...
> And now you're CLEARLY a retard.
> That's 2000 data
When was the most recent census, Einstein?
Jim
Beldin the Sorcerer
City takes one every year, moron
Lots of data around
I cite 2008 median income data and you, being the shithead you are, want to
compare it to 2000 data'
Clave
>
> "Clave" <ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
> news:hj61iq$s3e$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:hj613a$oqc$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>
>>> "Clave" <ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
>>> news:hj5ur7$90s$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:hj5pau$3c5$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Clave" <ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:hj3i68$nms$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>> <...>
>>
>>>>>> Median income $28k
>>>>> No it isn't
>>>>> Median income nationwide is 50k
>>>>> Median income in Lawrence isn't that high, but I don't work here.
>>>>> It's higher than 28k
>>>>
>>>> Not according to the most recent census.
>>> Retard...
>>> And now you're CLEARLY a retard.
>>> That's 2000 data
>>
>> When was the most recent census, Einstein?
> Last year
Really? Can I see the results somewhere?
Jim
Beldin the Sorcerer
Your confusing actual facts for my opinion.
See, you moron, I CITED the armtwisting that happened to get the bill
through the house.
64 dems REFUSED to vote for it without strict abortion restrictions.
There's no opinion there. it's simple fact
The Senate bill doesn't have them
Where's the opinion, you moron?
Or are you claiming they all lied?
Clave
And you're ASSUMING their positions will never change.
That right there is a HEEUUUUUGE reason your name is *synonymous* with
stupid.
Jim
Clave
<...>
>>> When was the most recent census, Einstein?
>> Last year
>> City takes one every year...
>
>
> Really? Can I see the results somewhere?
Come on, Beldin -- any city that can marshal the resources to do a census
EVERY YEAR would probably post the data on their own web site, right?
Can't seem to find anything in there about any yearly census, Beldin. Or
median income.
Jim
Clave
> "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
<...>
>> 64 dems REFUSED to vote for it without strict abortion restrictions.
>
> And you're ASSUMING their positions will never change.
>
> That right there is a HEEUUUUUGE reason your name is *synonymous* with
> stupid.
Oh, and another justification for "Beldinic" having become an adjective is
that I never once said I thought the House would pass the Senate bill, only
that it could.
But don't let that get in the way of your blind, knee-jerk,
masturbating-chimp-on-crack need to prove your big strong hero-of-a-man
superiority.
Jim
Beldin the Sorcerer
I don't recall claiming they had that information
I DO know that only a complete idiot compares 2000 numbers to 2008 numbers
Clave
<...beep...beep...beep...Beldin backs up...>
You claimed they take a census every year. I find that rather difficult to
believe.
Jim
Beldin the Sorcerer
No, fuckhead, they STATED they would let the bill die if they didn't get
what they want.
I'm taking them at their word
That's not an assumption, that's logic. They refused to go along with their
president because they needed to get re-elected.
Their home constituents aren't going to go changing their minds because
Brown won
>
> That right there is a HEEUUUUUGE reason your name is *synonymous* with
> stupid.
No, Clave = retard
Beldin = Brilliant
Keep it in mind, shithead
Beldin the Sorcerer
I just fill the damn thing out and mail it off
And then make sure I get the dogs licensed, as they count dogs on the census
Clave
So your call of bullshit on median income of $28k isn't based on the
putative "yearly census" data?
I notice you aren't really forthcoming with the source of your information.
Jim
Clave
Jim
Beldin the Sorcerer
Can you not read or something?
I explained very carefully that there was no assumption at all
And you, being a retard, snipped it.
Why?
Beldin the Sorcerer
Lawrence is not a statistical anomaly
Clave
>
> "Clave" <ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
> news:hj6a7i$llp$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
<...>
>> So your call of bullshit on median income of $28k isn't based on the
>> putative "yearly census" data?
> Mass income has increased over the last 8 years.
>
> Lawrence is not a statistical anomaly
So you were lying.
Jim
Beldin the Sorcerer
You're the retard using 8 year old data
If that's the best you can find, you just assume it's wrong. You know what
YOUR income did from 2000 to 2008
>
> You claimed they take a census every year. I find that rather difficult
> to believe.
Then you're a shithead
Every city I've lived in does a census every year
It's a simple form, idiot
Clave
>
> "Clave" <ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
> news:hj68rl$e3t$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
<...>
>> <...beep...beep...beep...Beldin backs up...>
>
> Not slightly
> You're the retard using 8 year old data
I cited my source and never pretended it was more recent than it was.
You said the city does a census every year. That was clearly a lie.
You said my figure for median income was wrong, but if you have no better
data, that's another lie.
Jim
Beldin the Sorcerer
> "Clave" <ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message news:...
>> "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:hj63gb$99k$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> <...>
>
>>> 64 dems REFUSED to vote for it without strict abortion restrictions.
>>
>> And you're ASSUMING their positions will never change.
>>
>> That right there is a HEEUUUUUGE reason your name is *synonymous* with
>> stupid.
>
>
> Oh, and another justification for "Beldinic" having become an adjective is
> that I never once said I thought the House would pass the Senate bill,
> only that it could.
>
Shithead, I never said it was impossible, only that it wouldn't hapen, so
you really need to pay attention.
Indeed, moron, let's look, shall we?
Here's the start of that subthread, idiot boy :
>> Don't bet on it. The house could accept the Senate bill as is and it
>> winds up on Obama's desk this week. Then watch the reconciliation fun.
>
> The right wing Dems that can't stand abortion will need major arm twisting
You don't get it -- the House has the votes to send it to Obama's desk if
they don't modify what the Senate's already passed.
***
Now see, imbecile.
This is me, saying it won't happen; the guys had to be persuaded the first
time
Then YOU claim the votes are already there.
So FUCK YOU, lying weasel.
You were presenting it as a sure thing
> But don't let that get in the way of your blind, knee-jerk,
> masturbating-chimp-on-crack need to prove your big strong hero-of-a-man
> superiority.
Jimbo, are you proud that you never let the facts get in the way of shooting
your idiot mout off?
Clave
>
> "Clave" <ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
> news:hj68fu$b3o$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> "Clave" <ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message news:...
>>> "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>> news:hj63gb$99k$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>> <...>
>>
>>>> 64 dems REFUSED to vote for it without strict abortion restrictions.
>>>
>>> And you're ASSUMING their positions will never change.
>>>
>>> That right there is a HEEUUUUUGE reason your name is *synonymous* with
>>> stupid.
>>
>>
>> Oh, and another justification for "Beldinic" having become an adjective
>> is that I never once said I thought the House would pass the Senate bill,
>> only that it could.
>>
>
> Shithead, I never said it was impossible, only that it wouldn't hapen, so
> you really need to pay attention.
> Indeed, moron, let's look, shall we?
You look. I'm too busy laughing at your sorry lying ass.
Jim
Beldin the Sorcerer
> "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:hj6d2i$7la$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>> "Clave" <ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
>> news:hj68rl$e3t$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> <...>
>
>>> <...beep...beep...beep...Beldin backs up...>
>>
>> Not slightly
>> You're the retard using 8 year old data
>
> I cited my source and never pretended it was more recent than it was.
>
> You said the city does a census every year. That was clearly a lie.
EVERY city and town I've ever lived in has done one every year
Where the fuck do you live where they don't?
>
> You said my figure for median income was wrong, but if you have no better
> data, that's another lie.
No shithead, that too is simply wrong
You know it's too low because the median income in general has increased and
there's no evidence at all that Lawrence is atypical.
Goddamn, Jimbo, you're lying worse than Martha Coakley tonight
Clave
>
> "Clave" <ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
> news:hj6dun$df2$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:hj6d2i$7la$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>
>>> "Clave" <ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
>>> news:hj68rl$e3t$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>> <...>
>>
>>>> <...beep...beep...beep...Beldin backs up...>
>>>
>>> Not slightly
>>> You're the retard using 8 year old data
>>
>> I cited my source and never pretended it was more recent than it was.
>>
>> You said the city does a census every year. That was clearly a lie.
> No, shithead, it's obviously the truth.
> EVERY city and town I've ever lived in has done one every year
Bullshit.
Jim
Beldin the Sorcerer
Are you a complete shithead?
Well, yes. Yes you are
Clave
Cite your source then.
Oh, and prove they do a yearly census.
Jim
Beldin the Sorcerer
I live here, shithead.
You won't find a source saying income is down in Lawrence while up in the
rest of the state
>
> Oh, and prove they do a yearly census.
I've lived here for 10 years, asshole
I've had to fill the form out every year, you goddamned idiot
You prove you DON'T have one where you live
Oh fuck it
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statutes.
Records found in this office are: Birth Certificates, Death Certificates,
Marriage Licenses, Zoning Decisions, Meeting Records, Annual Reports and
Special Reports to City Meeting, records of elections and lists of those who
have served the city in elective or appointive office.
This office issues a number of licenses such as marriage licenses, dog
licenses, DBA Certificates, raffles and bazaar permits. ~The Town Clerk
maintains records of amendments to the City Charter and Zoning By-Law and
references to accepted State Statutes.
This office accepts the required postings for all public meetings and
maintains the public meetings calendar. ~The department conducts the Annual
Census and maintains the voter lists, and also conducts all Federal, State
and Local elections.
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Yo shithead!
Read that last paragraph 15-20 times
Pay attention to this sentence :The department conducts the Annual Census
and maintains the voter lists, and also conducts all Federal, State and
Local elections.
You done being a shithead?
Beldin the Sorcerer
has done one
Before you plunk down your money, shithead, this is the only other town I've
lived in since 1976
The Office of the Town Clerk is the provider of information and quality
services to the community and works cooperatively and in coordination with
the varied departments and groups while performing a myriad of tasks to
achieve established goals and comply with state and local statutes.
Duties include but are not limited to:
a.. Coordinating and administering federal, state, and town elections
b.. Conducting the annual census, preparing the street list of residents,
furnishing the jury list to the Office of the Jury Commissioner
http://www.acton-ma.gov/index.aspx?NID=180
Try looking at any random Mass town clerk's office
Hell, here's Lowell... they have a department for elections and census
Election and Census Commission
The City of Lowell's Election and Census Commission manages and conducts all
municipal, state, and federal elections within the City of Lowell.
Unofficial Results for the 2009 Municipal Election
Voter Registration Form and/or Absentee Ballot Application Request
Attention Voters:
If you encounter any problems at all while voting, please contact the
Lowell Election Commission immediately at: 978-970-4046 or 4047.
Managing and conducting all municipal, state, and federal elections within
the City of Lowell from start to finish presents a significant challenge.
The Election and Census Commission considers attaining one hundred percent
(100%) voter registration one of its highest goals! As the non-partisan
resource responsible for the integrity of fair elections, and ensuring that
they are properly conducted in accordance with local, state, and federal
laws, the Election and Census Commission is here to answer your questions
about the voting and election process. We suggest you review the list of
Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) that we have prepared in order to better
assist you.
Under the supervision of the Office Manager, and the Election Commissioners:
a.. Supervises voter registration and absentee ballots;
b.. Maintains voter records, including change of address or party
affiliations;
c.. Supplies nomination papers for candidates, initiatives, and referenda;
d.. Administers campaign finance laws;
e.. Certifies the signatures on all nominations and petitions;
f.. Maintains election equipment;
g.. Oversees and supervises polling places, election officers, and the
general conduct of all election workers;
h.. Directs preparation of ballots, polling places, voting equipment, and
voting lists;
i.. Conducts the election process;
j.. Tallies election results;
k.. Validates and certifies election results;
l.. Prepares, records and reports official election results to the
Secretary of State of the Commonwealth;
m.. Maintains and preserves the records of the election process;
n.. Validates and certifies the Annual Census which helps determine the
City's eligibility for many important programs and grants; and
o.. Provides proof of City of Lowell residency for state colleges and
universities, travel certificates and social security administration.
Now how fucking retarded do you feel?
Beldin the Sorcerer
Indeed, yours was, and I cited it
And you saw it and you snipped it
You're a lying chickenshit, Jimbo
Alim Nassor
wrote:
> "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
>
> news:hj6dun$df2$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
>
>
> > "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >news:hj6d2i$7la$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> >> "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
> >>news:hj68rl$e3t$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> > <...>
>
> >>> <...beep...beep...beep...Beldin backs up...>
>
> >> Not slightly
> >> You're the retard using 8 year old data
>
> > I cited my source and never pretended it was more recent than it was.
>
> > You said the city does a census every year. That was clearly a lie.
>
> No, shithead, it's obviously the truth.
> EVERY city and town I've ever lived in has done one every year
> Where the fuck do you live where they don't?
>
>
>
> > You said my figure for median income was wrong, but if you have no better
> > data, that's another lie.
>
> No shithead, that too is simply wrong
> You know it's too low because the median income in general has increased and
> there's no evidence at all that Lawrence is atypical.
>
> - Show quoted text -
I've never lived anyplace that took a yearly headcount. No city or
town in Texas does that I am aware of. The population signs at the
city limits of each town are updated every 10 years. I lived in Idaho
too and they didn't take a headcount there either
Beldin the Sorcerer
"Alim Nassor" <alimn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:bfb4c0c8-0966-4944...@m16g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
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How does your state government work?
We need to do it for voting,,, some of our state house districts split towns
Alim Nassor
wrote:
> "Alim Nassor" <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
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Not sure, I think the districts are adjusted based on the US census.
Alim Nassor
wrote:
> "Alim Nassor" <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> - Show quoted text -
I did a quick Google search for Texas State Census and every link
referred to the US census. Not doubting how they do things in Mass.,
but things do work different west of the Mississippi.
Dave the Clueless
> "Clave" <ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
> news:hj6dun$df2$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> > "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > news:hj6d2i$7la$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> >>
> >> "Clave" <ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
> >> news:hj68rl$e3t$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> >
> > <...>
> >
> >>> <...beep...beep...beep...Beldin backs up...>
> >>
> >> Not slightly
> >> You're the retard using 8 year old data
> >
> > I cited my source and never pretended it was more recent than it was.
> >
> > You said the city does a census every year. That was clearly a lie.
> No, shithead, it's obviously the truth.
> EVERY city and town I've ever lived in has done one every year
> Where the fuck do you live where they don't?
I have lived in Chicago, IL Milwaukee, WI Greensboro, NC Nashville, TN
Virginia Beach, VA and Baltimore, MD
None of these cities takes an annual census. Cite me one city that does.
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> "Clave" <ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
> news:hj6et0$jcv$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> > "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > news:hj6epp$j3c$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> >>
> >> "Clave" <ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
> >> news:hj6dun$df2$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> >>> "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >>> news:hj6d2i$7la$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> >>>>
> >>>> "Clave" <ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
> >>>> news:hj68rl$e3t$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> >>>
> >>> <...>
> >>>
> >>>>> <...beep...beep...beep...Beldin backs up...>
> >>>>
> >>>> Not slightly
> >>>> You're the retard using 8 year old data
> >>>
> >>> I cited my source and never pretended it was more recent than it was.
> >>>
> >>> You said the city does a census every year. That was clearly a lie.
> >> No, shithead, it's obviously the truth.
> >> EVERY city and town I've ever lived in has done one every year
> >
> > Bullshit.
> Bet you $1000 that every city and town I've lived in for the last 25 years
> has done one
>
So now you claim you are only 25 years old?
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Beldin the Sorcerer
"Dave the Clueless" <frac...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> On Jan 20 2010 4:28 AM, Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:
>
>> "Clave" <ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
>> news:hj6dun$df2$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> > "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> > news:hj6d2i$7la$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> >>
>> >> "Clave" <ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:hj68rl$e3t$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> >
>> > <...>
>> >
>> >>> <...beep...beep...beep...Beldin backs up...>
>> >>
>> >> Not slightly
>> >> You're the retard using 8 year old data
>> >
>> > I cited my source and never pretended it was more recent than it was.
>> >
>> > You said the city does a census every year. That was clearly a lie.
>> No, shithead, it's obviously the truth.
>> EVERY city and town I've ever lived in has done one every year
>> Where the fuck do you live where they don't?
>
> I have lived in Chicago, IL Milwaukee, WI Greensboro, NC Nashville, TN
> Virginia Beach, VA and Baltimore, MD
>
> None of these cities takes an annual census. Cite me one city that does.
The whole commonwealth of Mass, most likely.
Apparently, some states don't do state government 1 man 1 vote
Beldin the Sorcerer
Dave the Clueless
> >> Bet you $1000 that every city and town I've lived in for the last 25
> >> years
> >> has done one
> >>
> > So now you claim you are only 25 years old?
> Where did I do that?
There.
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Pepe Papon
<ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> wrote:
>>>>>> When the House Dems don't pass it, will you admit you're an idiot?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What's *truly* idiotic is your childish, anal, naive belief that anyone
>>>>> in possession of an opinion you differ with is an idiot.
>>>> Shithead, you're making a common mistake.
>>>> Your confusing actual facts for my opinion.
>>>> See, you moron, I CITED the armtwisting that happened to get the bill
>>>> through the house.
>>>> 64 dems REFUSED to vote for it without strict abortion restrictions.
>>>
>>> And you're ASSUMING their positions will never change.
>>
>> No, fuckhead, they STATED they would let the bill die if they didn't get
>> what they want.
>
>And you're ASSUMING their positions will never change.
>
>Jim
Whoa, hold on a minute! Are you trying to suggest that politicians
sometimes say one thing and then, later on, do something else? This
is unheard of!
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Pepe Papon
I've lived in New York, New Jersey, Rhode Island, Pennsylvania, and
California. I've lived in cities with populations ranging from 14
thousand to 8 million.
Pepe Papon
<alimn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> No, shithead, it's obviously the truth.
>> EVERY city and town I've ever lived in has done one every year
>> Where the fuck do you live where they don't?
>>
>>
>>
>> > You said my figure for median income was wrong, but if you have no better
>> > data, that's another lie.
>>
>> No shithead, that too is simply wrong
>> You know it's too low because the median income in general has increased and
>> there's no evidence at all that Lawrence is atypical.
>> Goddamn, Jimbo, you're lying worse than Martha Coakley tonight- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>I've never lived anyplace that took a yearly headcount. No city or
>town in Texas does that I am aware of. The population signs at the
>city limits of each town are updated every 10 years. I lived in Idaho
>too and they didn't take a headcount there either
I've lived in New York, New Jersey, Rhode Island, Pennsylvania,
Massachusetts, and California. I've lived in cities with populations
ranging from 14 thousand to 8 million. Not one of them has ever done
a head count on their own at any time, much less a yearly one.
Pepe Papon
I lived in Mass. They also use the US Census.
Gary Carson
> >
> > You claimed they take a census every year. I find that rather difficult
> > to believe.
> Then you're a shithead
> Every city I've lived in does a census every year
> It's a simple form, idiot
LOL.
I was actually involved in a special census Baton Rouge did in 1973. They
did it because of reapportionment lawsuit related to the US fucking up the
1970 census. Trust me, it's more than a simple form. It's a fairly
complex (and expensive) undertaking.
Nobody does it every year.
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