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hanks

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Mar 8, 2010, 3:05:36 PM3/8/10
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According to John Cassidy, author of "How Markets Fail: The Logic of
Economic Calamities," in
an article in the current New Yorker magazine, Tim Geitner saved the
economy and prevented
another Great Depression although they lost the American public in
doing so.
hanks

susan

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Mar 8, 2010, 3:07:55 PM3/8/10
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"hanks" <adrienn...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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teehee


hanks

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Mar 8, 2010, 4:53:45 PM3/8/10
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On Mar 8, 12:07 pm, "susan" <hotda...@charter.net> wrote:
> "hanks" <adriennebuus...@gmail.com> wrote in message

What's so funny, Susan?
hanks

bub

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Mar 8, 2010, 8:33:25 PM3/8/10
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john cassidy...nuff said

Alim Nassor

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Mar 8, 2010, 8:34:49 PM3/8/10
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That's one opinion. A little too early in the game to say yet. The
economy is still a shambles.

Alim Nassor

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Mar 8, 2010, 8:35:37 PM3/8/10
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On Mar 9, 9:33 am, bub <b...@plottus.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 12:05:36 -0800 (PST), hanks
>
> <adriennebuus...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >According to John Cassidy, author of "How Markets Fail: The Logic of
> >Economic Calamities," in
> >an article in the current New Yorker magazine, Tim Geitner saved the
> >economy and prevented
> >another Great Depression although they lost the American public in
> >doing so.
> >hanks
>
> john cassidy...nuff said

Wasn't he one of the Partidge Family? I wonder if he got to do Susan
Dey?

Paul Popinjay

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"hanks" <adrienn...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> What's so funny, Susan?

I can't speak for Susan, but maybe she laughed at how stupid your post is.
I know I did.


FL Turbo

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Mar 8, 2010, 9:36:06 PM3/8/10
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I laughed at the part where it said it was published in the New
Yorker.

Hanks reading the New Yorker?

I don't care who you are.
That there's funny.

risky biz

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Mar 8, 2010, 9:53:28 PM3/8/10
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Exactly at what point, Alim, will you say, "OK, I admit it, President
Obama took the stinking, collapsing pile of shit the Republicans gave him
and made it all better"?

Or was he on a stopwatch that ran out already- "Republicans took eight
years to completely fuck it up, Obama has eight months to make it perfect"?

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Alim Nassor

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Mar 8, 2010, 9:49:21 PM3/8/10
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How about when unemployment comes down to somewhere even close to the
8% he claimed he would keep it under? How about when banks quit
failing one after another? 140 banks closed in 2009 and 2010 is on
about the same pace. How about when the housing market improves, or
we have economic growth not powered by government money? How about
when we stop spending ourselves into bankruptcy?

Do you really think Obama has made it "all better" as you put it?

FL Turbo

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Mar 8, 2010, 10:20:31 PM3/8/10
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It's much more likely that Obama inherited a bad economy, and made it
infinitely worse through his brain-dead policies of adding trillions
and trillions of dollars of debt to an already staggering economy.

He must be following the advice of his brilliant Vice President.
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�Now, people when I say that look at me and say, �What are you talking
about, Joe? You�re telling me we have to go spend money to keep from
going bankrupt?�
Biden said. �The answer is yes, that's what I�m telling you.�


bub

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Mar 8, 2010, 10:21:30 PM3/8/10
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On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 18:49:21 -0800 (PST), Alim Nassor
<alimn...@yahoo.com> wrote:


>How about when unemployment comes down to somewhere even close to the
>8% he claimed he would keep it under? How about when banks quit
>failing one after another? 140 banks closed in 2009 and 2010 is on
>about the same pace. How about when the housing market improves, or
>we have economic growth not powered by government money? How about
>when we stop spending ourselves into bankruptcy?
>
>Do you really think Obama has made it "all better" as you put it?

the real problem

bloomberg..
"President Barack Obama�s budget proposal would create bigger deficits
than advertised every year of the next decade, with the shortfalls
totaling $1.2 trillion more than the administration projected,
according to the Congressional Budget Office. "
" the publicly held debt will zoom to $20.3 trillion, amounting to 90
percent of GDP by 2020. By then, interest payments on the debt will
have quadrupled to more than $900 billion annually, the report said.
Deficits between 2011 and 2020 would total $9.76 trillion, the CBO
said. "

$900 billion a year in just interest.

now just lose our super bond rating and you ain't seen nothing yet.

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La Cosa Nostradamus

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Mar 9, 2010, 2:32:43 AM3/9/10
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The markets crashed once the dems took the lead in the polls

It's reality you just cannot understand. NOBODY with big dollars felt
comfortable with a woman or a black guy in the white house.

Jerry Sturdivant

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"Alim Nassor" <alimn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Actually it's not. It's recovering. GDP up; unemployment slowing; market up;
banks paying back; AIG paying back; auto industry paying back. Just what do
you call, "a shambles?' Other than what we had when Bush left office.


Jerry 'n Vegas


Jerry Sturdivant

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"Alim Nassor" <alimn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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> On Mar 9, 10:53 am, "risky biz" <risky-...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> On Mar 8 2010 6:34 PM, Alim Nassor wrote:
>>
>> > On Mar 9, 4:05 am, hanks <adriennebuus...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > According to John Cassidy, author of "How Markets Fail: The Logic of
>> > > Economic Calamities," in
>> > > an article in the current New Yorker magazine, Tim Geitner saved the
>> > > economy and prevented
>> > > another Great Depression although they lost the American public in
>> > > doing so.
>> > > hanks
>>
>> > That's one opinion. A little too early in the game to say yet. The
>> > economy is still a shambles.
>>
>> Exactly at what point, Alim, will you say, "OK, I admit it, President
>> Obama took the stinking, collapsing pile of shit the Republicans gave him
>> and made it all better"?
>>
>> Or was he on a stopwatch that ran out already- "Republicans took eight
>> years to completely fuck it up, Obama has eight months to make it
>> perfect"?
>>
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>
> How about when unemployment comes down to somewhere even close to the
> 8% he claimed he would keep it under?

That's it? He missed a percentage number and you toss up your hands and say,
"We're Doomed?" The Democratic President Obama, you obviously hate; saved us
from a depression and is pulling us from a recession. Indicators are up. and
you whimper and cry because he missed a percentage number? Care for a couple
of But Republican Predictions?


Jerry (lol @ y) 'n Vegas

Jerry Sturdivant

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"FL Turbo" <noe...@notime.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 18:53:28 -0800, "risky biz"
> <risk...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>On Mar 8 2010 6:34 PM, Alim Nassor wrote:
>>
>>> On Mar 9, 4:05 am, hanks <adriennebuus...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > According to John Cassidy, author of "How Markets Fail: The Logic of
>>> > Economic Calamities," in
>>> > an article in the current New Yorker magazine, Tim Geitner saved the
>>> > economy and prevented
>>> > another Great Depression although they lost the American public in
>>> > doing so.
>>> > hanks
>>>
>>> That's one opinion. A little too early in the game to say yet. The
>>> economy is still a shambles.
>>
>>Exactly at what point, Alim, will you say, "OK, I admit it, President
>>Obama took the stinking, collapsing pile of shit the Republicans gave him
>>and made it all better"?
>>
>>Or was he on a stopwatch that ran out already- "Republicans took eight
>>years to completely fuck it up, Obama has eight months to make it
>>perfect"?
>>

> It's much more likely that Obama inherited a bad economy, and made it
> infinitely worse through his brain-dead policies of adding trillions
> and trillions of dollars of debt to an already staggering economy.

The same 'brain dead' policies Bush started? Try looking up STIMULUS; take
two aspirin and go to bed.


Jerry (education the stupid since '62) 'n Vegas

Jerry Sturdivant

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Mar 9, 2010, 9:10:56 AM3/9/10
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"La Cosa Nostradamus" <a6f...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Mar 8 2010 9:53 PM, risky biz wrote:
>
>> On Mar 8 2010 6:34 PM, Alim Nassor wrote:
>>
>> > On Mar 9, 4:05 am, hanks <adriennebuus...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > According to John Cassidy, author of "How Markets Fail: The Logic of
>> > > Economic Calamities," in
>> > > an article in the current New Yorker magazine, Tim Geitner saved the
>> > > economy and prevented
>> > > another Great Depression although they lost the American public in
>> > > doing so.
>> > > hanks
>> >
>> > That's one opinion. A little too early in the game to say yet. The
>> > economy is still a shambles.
>>
>> Exactly at what point, Alim, will you say, "OK, I admit it, President
>> Obama took the stinking, collapsing pile of shit the Republicans gave him
>> and made it all better"?
>>
>> Or was he on a stopwatch that ran out already- "Republicans took eight
>> years to completely fuck it up, Obama has eight months to make it
>> perfect"?
>
> The markets crashed once the dems took the lead in the polls


WHA! HA~HA! "Everybody sold their stock months before the election because
they were afraid they couldn't sell them two months before the election; or
one month before the election; or after the elections was decided; or, I'm
so embarrassed at being stupid I have to make idiot statements like: 'They
sold stock because of a poll.'"

I love reading you desperate right wingers and your desperate excuses....


Jerry (entertained) 'n Vegas

Beldin the Sorcerer

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Mar 9, 2010, 9:27:52 AM3/9/10
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"Jerry Sturdivant" <jer...@cox.net> wrote in message
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Jerry, if you wanna bullshit....

If you wanna tell the truth instead :

Unemployment Jan 2009 7.5%
Unemployment Jan 2010 10%

GDP is a wash

Dow is up, but that's not a function of the president.


Beldin the Sorcerer

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Mar 9, 2010, 9:29:26 AM3/9/10
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"Jerry Sturdivant" <jer...@cox.net> wrote in message
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Over 10% unemployment is fairly bad, Jerry.

Massive borrowing to stimulate the economy with no plan to pay it back is
fairly bad.
(Note the statement about no plan. I accept the borrowing was neccesary)

Beldin the Sorcerer

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"Jerry Sturdivant" <jer...@cox.net> wrote in message
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Jerry, it's one thing to point out the spending was needed.
It was.
It's another to ignore the lack of a plan to deal with the debt.

You are.
You and Pseudo are both extremists.


ChrisRobin

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Mar 9, 2010, 12:32:23 PM3/9/10
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On Mar 9 2010 9:06 AM, Jerry Sturdivant wrote:

> Jerry (education the stupid since '62) 'n Vegas

Priceless.

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hanks

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On Mar 8, 6:36 pm, FL Turbo <noem...@notime.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 18:13:24 -0800, "Paul Popinjay"
>
> <paulpopin...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >"hanks" <adriennebuus...@gmail.com> wrote in message

> >news:2ee02f84-dd38-45ba...@w27g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> What's so funny, Susan?
>
> >I can't speak for Susan, but maybe she laughed at how stupid your post is.
> >I know I did.
>
> I laughed at the part where it said it was published in the New
> Yorker.
>
> Hanks reading the New Yorker?
>
> I don't care who you are.
> That there's funny.

WTF is so funny about The New Yorker? I've
been a subscriber for over 15 years and
along with "The Atlantic" find it to be one

of America's great publications.
And furthermore WTF is so funny about
John Cassidy? Contempt prior to
investigation is really a sign of ignorance.
hanks

Jason Pawloski

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Mar 9, 2010, 4:40:21 PM3/9/10
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Oh this should be fun.

Well, Bel-duh, Jerry said that unemployment was slowing, i.e. the rate of
change of the unemployment is decreasing. Do you see how that is different
than quoting unemployment numbers?

Not to back up Jerry, I'm just picking this argument because I have a
feeling this could get pretty epic with Bel-duh embarrassing himself worse
than usual.

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FL Turbo

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Mar 9, 2010, 9:37:37 PM3/9/10
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I didn't say there was anything funny about either the New Yorker, or
John Cassidy (whoever the Hell he is.)

It's just that I never figgered you for onea them artsy-fartsy kinda
guys who would be reading the New Yorker.

FL Turbo

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Mar 9, 2010, 9:55:22 PM3/9/10
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Okay, I'll try.
Google is my friend.

Here's the first one on the list.

http://stimuluswatch.org/2.0/

Grant Arts and the American Recovery & Reinvestment Act of 2009
$311,500 Columbia SC 0 -3
Grant MOLECULAR PATTERNING OF MAMMALIAN DENTITION $379,279 Rochester
NY 2 0
Grant EPIDEMIC TYPHUS PATHOGENESIS $192,500 Rochester NY 1 -1
Grant Saginaw County 2009 Recovery JAG Project $1,053,085 Saginaw MI 7
-2
Grant Effectiveness of Suicide Hotline Training $809,819 New York NY 5
-2
Grant Capital Improvement Program $2,035,315 Saginaw MI 0 -2
Grant facil renov, (5) 35` biodiesel repl buse $2,996,932 Saginaw MI 0
-5
Grant HIV RISK BEHAVIOR OF ADULT MINORITY HETEROSEXUAL MEN IN NEW YORK
CITY $499,723 Rochester NY 0 -2

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Contract CONSTRUCTION OF CA PRA REDW 102(1), ALDER CAMP ROAD
$2,921,050 Crescent City CA 2 0
Contract Replace HVAC System Hangar Y, Facility 1115, CCAFS, FL
$203,742 Patrick Afb FL 10 -3
Contract Booz Allen Hamilton and Subcontractor DRT Strategies, Inc., a
small woman-owned business, provide comprehensive program management
and technical support services� $2,050,000 Arlington VA 14 -1
Grant Menifee Housing Apartments Frenchburg KY Project-Based Rental
Assistance Payments $68,040 Frankfort KY 0 -1
Grant Region 10 Trailer Aerodynamics Program $907,072 Pacific WA 1 2
------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------------------------

Aww, shit!
Now it's gonna take a pint of Jack Daniels to put me to sleep tonight.

Hey, thanks fer nuthin, Pal.


>
>Jerry (education the stupid since '62) 'n Vegas
>

(Heehe)

Beldin the Sorcerer

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"Jason Pawloski" <a67...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
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Um, retard.
Until you have job growth, you still have the current President responsible
for a 33%+ claims in unemployment, not counting underemployed and those
who've given up, if you actually think a sitting president responsible for
that.

>
> Not to back up Jerry, I'm just picking this argument because I have a
> feeling this could get pretty epic with Bel-duh embarrassing himself worse
> than usual.

No, you just can't read.
That's fine.


Pepe Papon

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On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 23:32:43 -0800, "La Cosa Nostradamus"
<a6f...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:

>
>The markets crashed once the dems took the lead in the polls

How many times are you going to repeat this lie?
--
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Jerry Sturdivant

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"Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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But not a 'shambles.'


> Massive borrowing to stimulate the economy with no plan to pay it back is
> fairly bad.

Except there are plans to pay it back. Or did you not know about that part
of the Stimulus package?


> (Note the statement about no plan. I accept the borrowing was neccesary)

(Note there is a plan to pay it back, you just didn't know about it).


Jerry 'n Vegas


Jerry Sturdivant

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"Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message

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And your just stupid. One of the arguments here was about the plan to
increase taxes in 2011 to start paying back the debt.

Like I said, go to bed.


Jerry 'n Vegas


Jerry Sturdivant

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"FL Turbo" <noe...@notime.com> wrote in message

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Then use it to find the government site where the tax increases starting in
2011 start paying it back. (Along with resending the Tax Cut's For The
Rich).

See? That wasn't so hard.


Jerry 'n Vegas


>
> Here's the first one on the list.
>
> http://stimuluswatch.org/2.0/
>
> Grant Arts and the American Recovery & Reinvestment Act of 2009
> $311,500 Columbia SC 0 -3
> Grant MOLECULAR PATTERNING OF MAMMALIAN DENTITION $379,279 Rochester
> NY 2 0
> Grant EPIDEMIC TYPHUS PATHOGENESIS $192,500 Rochester NY 1 -1
> Grant Saginaw County 2009 Recovery JAG Project $1,053,085 Saginaw MI 7
> -2
> Grant Effectiveness of Suicide Hotline Training $809,819 New York NY 5
> -2
> Grant Capital Improvement Program $2,035,315 Saginaw MI 0 -2
> Grant facil renov, (5) 35` biodiesel repl buse $2,996,932 Saginaw MI 0
> -5
> Grant HIV RISK BEHAVIOR OF ADULT MINORITY HETEROSEXUAL MEN IN NEW YORK
> CITY $499,723 Rochester NY 0 -2
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Contract CONSTRUCTION OF CA PRA REDW 102(1), ALDER CAMP ROAD
> $2,921,050 Crescent City CA 2 0
> Contract Replace HVAC System Hangar Y, Facility 1115, CCAFS, FL
> $203,742 Patrick Afb FL 10 -3
> Contract Booz Allen Hamilton and Subcontractor DRT Strategies, Inc., a
> small woman-owned business, provide comprehensive program management

> and technical support services. $2,050,000 Arlington VA 14 -1

Jerry Sturdivant

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"Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message

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>
> "Jerry Sturdivant" <jer...@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:_vsln.248163$OX4....@newsfe25.iad...
>>
>>
>> "Alim Nassor" <alimn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:6f699757-c40a-4ecc...@b9g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Mar 9, 4:05 am, hanks <adriennebuus...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> According to John Cassidy, author of "How Markets Fail: The Logic of
>>>> Economic Calamities," in
>>>> an article in the current New Yorker magazine, Tim Geitner saved the
>>>> economy and prevented
>>>> another Great Depression although they lost the American public in
>>>> doing so.
>>>> hanks
>>>
>>> That's one opinion. A little too early in the game to say yet. The
>>> economy is still a shambles.
>>
>> Actually it's not. It's recovering. GDP up; unemployment slowing; market
>> up; banks paying back; AIG paying back; auto industry paying back. Just
>> what do you call, "a shambles?' Other than what we had when Bush left
>> office.
>
> Jerry, if you wanna bullshit....

It's not me bullshitting. I stated fact.


Jerry 'n Vegas

Alim Nassor

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> guys who would be reading the New Yorker.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I'll bet he doesn't get the cartoon though.

Jerry Sturdivant

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"Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message

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Uh, no again. The massive unemployment we're experiencing started under
Bush.

Let's see; you've been wrong 4 times in you last 3 posts. And when the
dumbest poster kicks your ass, it really should tell you something.....


Jerry 'n Vegas

FL Turbo

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On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 06:08:25 -0800, "Jerry Sturdivant"
<jer...@cox.net> wrote:

Oh, I see.
Spend now, pay later, eh?
The same, old, Sameold.

When the Feds get increased revenue from increased taxes, they never
EVER use the money to pay down the national debt.

They ALWAYS use it to add even more spending.

Did you ever wonder why the national debt keeps going up, up, and up
every single steenkin' year?

(Give it your best ButBush! argument to explain it all.)

Pepe Papon

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On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 06:03:39 -0800, "Jerry Sturdivant"
<jer...@cox.net> wrote:

>> Over 10% unemployment is fairly bad, Jerry.
>
>But not a 'shambles.'

The economy was in a shambles in Jan. of 2009. Now, it's merely bad.

Alim Nassor

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On Mar 11, 12:47 pm, Pepe Papon

<hitmeis...@mindspring.dot.com.invalid> wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 06:03:39 -0800, "Jerry Sturdivant"
>
> <jerr...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> Over 10% unemployment is fairly bad, Jerry.
>
> >But not a 'shambles.'
>
> The economy was in a shambles in Jan. of 2009.  Now, it's merely bad.
> --
>        ~ Seth Jackson
>
> MySpace URL -http://www.myspace.com/sethjacksonsong

> Songwriting and Music Business Info:http://www.sethjackson.net

There is much worse coming.

Beldin the Sorcerer

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"Jerry Sturdivant" <jer...@cox.net> wrote in message
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That's subjective.
The future being so bad that unemployment benefits are currently extended
out for almost two years is rather bad, Jerry.


But on Wednesday, the U.S. Senate passed a measure that would extend
unemployment benefits up to 99 weeks for many on unemployment benefits the
longest in the hardest hit states. The House of Representatives hasn't yet
voted on the measure.

The federal extended benefits program had been set to be phased out starting
April 5.

"It gives them some certainty until the end of December instead of
constantly wondering whether their benefits will end," said U.S. Sen. Bob
Casey Jr., a Scranton Democrat, shortly after voting on the extension that
passed 62-36. "Making people worry is not the way to go when people are
really hurting."

The vote came over protests from conservatives who said the bill adds too
much to the $12.5 trillion national debt. Six Republicans joined all but one
Democrat, Ben Nelson of Nebraska, in voting for the bill.

Adamczyk and other Berks employment experts said the unemployed are so
insecure about when unemployment compensation benefits could end that most
would gladly trade those benefits for the security of a job.


>
>
>
>
>> Massive borrowing to stimulate the economy with no plan to pay it back is
>> fairly bad.
>
> Except there are plans to pay it back. Or did you not know about that part
> of the Stimulus package?

There's no plan to pay it back, Jerry.

Don't lie, now.

Most striking were the increased tensions over deficit reduction that seemed
to trip up the speaker herself. Democrats only narrowly won approval of an
estimated $290 billion increase in the Treasury's borrowing authority to
avoid the threat of default in January. And then hours later, there was a
backlash from some of her own freshmen against an estimated $150 billion
jobs creation bill that Pelosi had championed but that barely survived on a
217-212 vote.


"We have got to send a message about our concern for the deficit," said Rep.
Gerry Connolly (D-Va.). And House Appropriations Committee Chairman Dave
Obey (D-Wis.) could be seen yelling at Rep. Mike Quigley (D-Ill.), who holds
the Chicago seat once held by White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel.


Thirty-nine House Democrats opposed Pelosi on the 218-214 vote to raise the
debt ceiling. A second, perhaps far larger, increase will be needed as early
as Feb. 11, given the federal government's flood of red ink, and the speaker
signaled she is prepared to agree next month to some form of deficit
reduction commission to help win moderate support.


"We'll come to terms on a commission," she said and repeatedly likened the
grim choices ahead to those faced in 1993 when President Clinton won passage
of a major deficit-reduction plan that cost Democrats dearly in the next
year's elections.


"We've been here before," Pelosi said. "We had to make very difficult
decisions - and, as you know, we paid a political price for it - but we had
to do it. . We did it then; and we will do it again."


Pelosi's comments came during a year-end roundtable with reporters at which
she described herself as back in full "campaign mode," and confident
Democrats will retain "a strong majority" in the House after the 2010
elections.


>
>
>> (Note the statement about no plan. I accept the borrowing was neccesary)
>
> (Note there is a plan to pay it back, you just didn't know about it).

No, Jerry, there's no plan.

They just raised the debt ceiling again.

There's no way to tell when the economy will be stable

Beldin the Sorcerer

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"Jerry Sturdivant" <jer...@cox.net> wrote in message
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Wow, you're a shithead.
There's no plan to increase taxes in 2011.

Some idiot may have talked about it for 15 minutes.
2010 is a midterm election year, fucknut.

Noone is raising taxes in 2011, because anyone running will scream the
incumbants WILL do that, and they'll all run and hide.

They raised the debt ceiling again.
They'll keep doing it.

>
> Like I said, go to bed.

grow a brain, fucknut


Beldin the Sorcerer

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"Jerry Sturdivant" <jer...@cox.net> wrote in message
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Shithead, it grew 33%+ worse under Obama.

If you Blame George, you blame Barack too.

Unless you're a partisan asshole.

>
> Let's see; you've been wrong 4 times in you last 3 posts. And when the
> dumbest poster kicks your ass, it really should tell you something.....

No, Jerry, I've been right and you've been a shithead.

But that's par for you.


Beldin the Sorcerer

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"Jerry Sturdivant" <jer...@cox.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:hn5ltb$tf0$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>> "Jerry Sturdivant" <jer...@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:_vsln.248163$OX4....@newsfe25.iad...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Alim Nassor" <alimn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:6f699757-c40a-4ecc...@b9g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>>>> On Mar 9, 4:05 am, hanks <adriennebuus...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> According to John Cassidy, author of "How Markets Fail: The Logic of
>>>>> Economic Calamities," in
>>>>> an article in the current New Yorker magazine, Tim Geitner saved the
>>>>> economy and prevented
>>>>> another Great Depression although they lost the American public in
>>>>> doing so.
>>>>> hanks
>>>>
>>>> That's one opinion. A little too early in the game to say yet. The
>>>> economy is still a shambles.
>>>
>>> Actually it's not. It's recovering. GDP up; unemployment slowing; market
>>> up; banks paying back; AIG paying back; auto industry paying back. Just
>>> what do you call, "a shambles?' Other than what we had when Bush left
>>> office.
>>
>> Jerry, if you wanna bullshit....
>
> It's not me bullshitting. I stated fact.
You bullshitted

Jerry Sturdivant

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"Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message

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Yea, there is.

This should settle the fact you're stupid.

Next?


Jerry 'n Vegas

Jerry Sturdivant

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"FL Turbo" <noe...@notime.com> wrote in message

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No; this spending is for the Stimulus. When the economy finishes recovering,
the bill is due and the Democrats seem to have hit it rather close.


Jerry 'n Vegas

Jerry Sturdivant

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"Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message

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> You bullshitted

Yet in the post above, I showed you where you were wrong.


Jerry 'n Vegas


Jerry Sturdivant

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"Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message

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What part of STARTED confused you?

Jerry 'n Vegas

Jerry Sturdivant

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"Alim Nassor" <alimn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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Is that why the economy is recovering: GDP is up? Market is up? Unemployment
slowing? AGI is paying us back? The banks are paying us back? Auto industry
paying us back?

Sorry to have embarrassed you again. It just can't be helped.


Jerry 'n Vegas


La Cosa Nostradamus

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Virusing Toyotas will help Ford a lot.

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FL Turbo

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On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:16:52 -0800, "Jerry Sturdivant"
<jer...@cox.net> wrote:

While I can admire your Faith, I still marvel at your naivety in
thinking the politicians will actually do what they say they will do.

Alim Nassor

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On Mar 12, 1:20 am, "Jerry Sturdivant" <jerr...@cox.net> wrote:
> "Alim Nassor" <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> Jerry 'n Vegas- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Never heard of a double dip recession have you?

Wipe the egg off now.

Jerry Sturdivant

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Is this your way of saying you looked it up and found I was right? Tax
increases starting in 2011?


Jerry 'n Vegas

Beldin the Sorcerer

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"Jerry Sturdivant" <jer...@cox.net> wrote in message
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No, shithead, there isn't.
NONE.
No politician votes, pledges, or promises to increase taxes in an election
year, fucknit.


Beldin the Sorcerer

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"Jerry Sturdivant" <jer...@cox.net> wrote in message
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Shithead, just how assfucked are you?


Beldin the Sorcerer

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"Jerry Sturdivant" <jer...@cox.net> wrote in message
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What part of GREW fucked you up?
You too stupid to spread the blame around?

Well, yeah. Yeah, you are.


Beldin the Sorcerer

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"Jerry Sturdivant" <jer...@cox.net> wrote in message
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No, you showed where YOU were wrong.
Which is true pretty much whenever you post.


>


Jerry Sturdivant

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"Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message news:hng6a8$ko4$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> Shithead, just how assfucked are you?

> What part of GREW fucked you up?
> You too stupid to spread the blame around?

Heh! I just love joining the others in bitch-slapping the shit out of you. The more you weep and scream and curse and stamp your feet; the better I like wiping the floor with your idiot ass.

Read all these and weep, you moron:

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp&q=%22increase+taxes+in+2011%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&fp=18ec2db39eb50b9d  



Jerry (I love the smell of kicking Belden's ass in the mornings) 'n Vegas



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