Winner of Party tourney using 2 accts.?
Chris in Texas
explanation by JJ Prodigy) sorry, can’t link.
In short, player ABlackCar won the Party big tourney yesterday for a $140k cash.
Apparently, p5er gbmantis (who had a pretty good day himself, congrats) posted
congratulating well known online player JJ Prodigy who was playing under ABC’s
acct.
JJ Prodigy then posts an explanation saying his grandma was visting, and being a
poker player, he staked her in the same Party tourney he was playing (but they
were in different rooms). Well, he busts out, and she has built a nice stack so
he begins coaching (now that he’s no longer in it). For some reason they switch
seats and he takes over keyboard, and later he sends her out of the room to
watch on a laptop from elsewhere in the house because he gets nervous when he
gets deep.
He ends up taking it down and is considering buying his grandma a new car.
There were many posts claiming this was cheating or unethical (Brett “Gank”
Jungblut and Eaton among the most vocal that I agree with).
But others said there’s not problem with the story (assuming it’s true and that
JJ didn’t “intend” to play two accts).
Well, someone else posted a list of about 11 tourneys that Grandma and JJ have
played in together (similar buy-in amounts).
Just wanted to know how RGP felt about it and if were’ lucky, maybe get takes on
how PokerSTars and Full Tilt and other sites that might be reading RGP felt.
Chris
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tyslothrop
On Feb 13 2006 4:31 PM, Chris in Texas wrote:
> Came across a thread at http://www.pocketfives.com that bothered me (subject:
it's blatant cheating and his excuse is a crock of shit. How would you like to
bust phil ivey only to have to run into him again at the final table. no
thanks.
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jimpepper
On Feb 13 2006 5:31 PM, Chris in Texas wrote:
> Came across a thread at http://www.pocketfives.com/ that bothered me (subject:
Its cheating to bust out and have another account to play.
jim
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FellKnight
> Isn't this the same guy you were at the final table with on UB's $150K?
Yup. He took 1st for $35k.
That being said, I don't really know whether he played 2 or more accounts
on that tourney, and even if he did, I outplayed him and he got lucky.
What can you do?
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specific clause regarding this matter:
5. True Identity and One Account
The name on your Account must match your true and legal name and identity
and the name on your PartyPoker.net Account. You are prohibited from
holding more than one Account at PartyPoker.net and any of the websites on
the Shared Game/Table Platform. If you have more than one (1) Account or
Accounts in different names, then you must contact us immediately to have
your Accounts managed so that you only have one (1). If you have lost your
Account name or password, please contact us for a replacement.
Now, maybe "grandma" likes playing poker, and she should certainly be
allowed to have an account, but the proof showing the two of them playing
simultaneously in several big buy-in tournies reeks to me.
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p5, it doesn't seem like he needs two accounts to do well, though no one should
be allowed to use two accounts and thus get two chances in a tournament.
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XaQ Morphy
> p5, it doesn't seem like he needs two accounts to do well, though no one
should
> be allowed to use two accounts and thus get two chances in a tournament.
From what I understand based on a thread of posts here a while back, Stars
is aware that some/several players are playing multiple accounts in their
Sunday tourneys. Apparently Stars doesn't care/can't enforce this
behavior, so they turn a blind eye to it. If Stars, who is rumored to
have the best customer service of all poker sites, doesn't care about it,
then I can't imagine Party, who is rumored to have the worst customer
service of all poker sites, would do anything about it.
Morphy
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M3Trader
Welcome to the world of ONLINE poker. They have TEAMS of players on some
accounts, its crazy. Nothin beats the real game, you never know who the hell
you are against online...could be 10 pros in the same room making decisions.
Too much shady shit online.
On Feb 13 2006 5:31 PM, Chris in Texas wrote:
> Came across a thread at http://www.pocketfives.com/ that bothered me (subject:
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pokerlover
On Feb 13 2006 6:38 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:
> > Hope somebody reports him... as a very well known tourny player and ranked
> > on
> > p5, it doesn't seem like he needs two accounts to do well, though no one
> should
> > be allowed to use two accounts and thus get two chances in a tournament.
>
> From what I understand based on a thread of posts here a while back, Stars
> is aware that some/several players are playing multiple accounts in their
> Sunday tourneys. Apparently Stars doesn't care/can't enforce this
> behavior, so they turn a blind eye to it. If Stars, who is rumored to
> have the best customer service of all poker sites, doesn't care about it,
> then I can't imagine Party, who is rumored to have the worst customer
> service of all poker sites, would do anything about it.
>
> Morphy
> http://donkeymanifesto.blogspot.com/
Stars responded to their incident by changing/clarifying the rules.
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game?
Hardly necessary -- as you just posted, a guy who has never played
before and who doesn't even look at his cards has little trouble
winning your money.
arlo payne
Fact:
many players are playing on mulitable accounts at the same time.
they also chip dump to their accounts when the time is right and if they happen
to end up at the same table late in any tournament.
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"M3Trader" <4308...@recpoker.com> wrote in message
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>
> Welcome to the world of ONLINE poker. They have TEAMS of players on some
> accounts, its crazy. Nothin beats the real game, you never know who the
> hell
> you are against online...could be 10 pros in the same room making
> decisions.
> Too much shady shit online.
Good segway...
I'm new to poker but don't want to try playing online. I figure it's too
easy for ppl to cheat. Anybody know where I can get a list of casinos by
state that have Holdem tables?
Irish Mike
Computer game players don't give a shit about facts. If you could provide
absolute proof that 10% of all computer game players were using multiple
log-ons when they played MTTs, and that another 10% were colluding, the
players still wouldn't give a shit.
Fact #2:
No matter what computer players tell you, they don't really give a shit
about the software, rake or support. What they do care about is action.
Action is the most important thing, first, last and always. That is why the
sites that offer the most action are always going to make most money.
Fact #3:
What I've said about computer game players is largely true for real game
players as well. The B&M poker room that offers the most action will always
attract the most players and make the most money.
Fact #4:
The kids don't want to wake up and they resent your trying.
Irish Mike
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IvanXDurham
yeah, i've actually been reading the threads on P5 talking about this.
One guy actually went as far as to break down JJ's explanation,
pointing out the parts that really drive that story home. He claims to
have been in a hurry to set up his new computer (what for??) since he
had gotten home just an hour or so before the big MTT's started. I
find it funny that it has been pointed out that he could have possibly
taken the win down and walked with 140k free as a bird, but according
to the p5ers, his 'ego and need for recognition' drove him to confess
to multi-accounting just so everyone knows that JJ took down the Party
500.
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ChrisBrown
> Fact:
> many players are playing on mulitable accounts at the same time.
Actually, i do believe that party attempts to restrict the casual player
from having multiple accounts. But for their frequent (i.e. high rake
generating players) players, they really just don't give a fuck. I cannot
count the number of times i have gone to the blogs og players i've seen on
2+2 or other forums and seen them mentioning 'switching' accounts. To
their credit, at least in those instances, they're honest and not claiming
the other account is their grandmothers.
> they also chip dump to their accounts when the time is right and if they
happen
> to end up at the same table late in any tournament.
i assume you mean chip dumping in terms of keeping both stack healthy and
alive, in which case i agree. if you mean chip dumping as in the smaller
stack giving away all it's chips to the bigger i'd disagree just because
it's more advanategous to have 2 stacks than 1.
Chris in Texas
On Feb 14 2006 9:01 AM, IvanXDurham wrote:
> I
> find it funny that it has been pointed out that he could have possibly
> taken the win down and walked with 140k free as a bird, but according
> to the p5ers, his 'ego and need for recognition' drove him to confess
> to multi-accounting just so everyone knows that JJ took down the Party
> 500.
He posted on P5 as JJ during the tourney with statemetns like ABlackCar rules
and is a great online player, etc. Yup, methinks ego got in the way.
Hope he and Grandma get their stories straight for the IRS
Chris
torx
now who claims the profit is a different thing, but as long as 'they' pay
taxes on it the irs doesn't care much.
On Feb 14 2006 5:42 PM, Chris in Texas wrote:
> On Feb 14 2006 9:01 AM, IvanXDurham wrote:
> > I
> > find it funny that it has been pointed out that he could have possibly
> > taken the win down and walked with 140k free as a bird, but according
> > to the p5ers, his 'ego and need for recognition' drove him to confess
> > to multi-accounting just so everyone knows that JJ took down the Party
> > 500.
>
>
> He posted on P5 as JJ during the tourney with statemetns like ABlackCar rules
> and is a great online player, etc. Yup, methinks ego got in the way.
>
> Hope he and Grandma get their stories straight for the IRS
>
> Chris
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On Feb 14 2006 2:35 PM, torx wrote:
> the irs doesn't care about cheating, they care about taxes.
> now who claims the profit is a different thing, but as long as 'they' pay
> taxes on it the irs doesn't care much.
and if they choose not to they i hope they get their stories straight.
>
>
>
> On Feb 14 2006 5:42 PM, Chris in Texas wrote:
>
> > On Feb 14 2006 9:01 AM, IvanXDurham wrote:
> > > I
> > > find it funny that it has been pointed out that he could have possibly
> > > taken the win down and walked with 140k free as a bird, but according
> > > to the p5ers, his 'ego and need for recognition' drove him to confess
> > > to multi-accounting just so everyone knows that JJ took down the Party
> > > 500.
> >
> >
> > He posted on P5 as JJ during the tourney with statemetns like ABlackCar
> > rules
> > and is a great online player, etc. Yup, methinks ego got in the way.
> >
> > Hope he and Grandma get their stories straight for the IRS
> >
> > Chris
>
>
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