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most liberals invent traumatic childhoods. anything that reminds them of
mommy or daddy, they instinctively attack.
mo_charles
> I am totally serious about this question. Why do liberals have such
> intense, unbridled hatred for Sarah Palin? I have heard numerous,
> long-time political reporters and analysts say that in all their years of
> covering politics and politicians, they have never seen any thing even
> approaching the volume and viciousness of the attacks on Sarah Palin and
> her family. When she ran for VP they sent 30+ reporters and investigators
> to Alaska for the sole purpose of digging up dirt on her. After she left
> political office and published her book, one major news network assigned
> eleven full time investigators to scour through her book looking for any
> errors or typos. And now, even the mention of her name sends liberals in
> to hateful, disparaging rants. Seriously, what has Sarah Palin done to
> deserve this unprecedented level of hate and personal attacks?
>
> Irish Mike
her voice sounds like fingernails on a blackboard. besides, methinks you
are greatly exagerating the situation. "hate" is way too strong of a word.
how about "annoying"? i dont hate her, i just find her annoying. she's
got kind of a smugness about her.
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I don't "hate" her. I think it's scary that somebody that unqualified
got that close to the presidency, but I don't "hate" her. I think that
most of what you're reading as hate is just ridicule. We think she's
a fool, and we think she's funny. "What publications do you read?"
"All of 'em!" Man, that still cracks me up.
You don't hate Joe Biden, but you make fun of him when he puts his
foot in his mouth, right? It's sort of like that.
- Bob T.
Liberals don't hate her. At first they were amused, a hillbilly prom
queen with her down home philosphy was great entertainment. Then she
started in with her religous views, now she was getting scarry -- here
she was a community college graduate who could be a doddering old
man's heartbeat away from being the POTUS. A mavericky one at that.
And it wasn't so much Ms Palin that was frightening, it was supporters
that were making thinking people concerned.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-QGjCBLm0g
Talk about your populist canidate.
"Irish Mike" <ad7...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
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> I am totally serious about this question. Why do liberals have such
> intense, unbridled hatred for Sarah Palin? I have heard numerous,
> long-time political reporters and analysts say that in all their
> years of
> covering politics and politicians, they have never seen any thing
> even
> approaching the volume and viciousness of the attacks on Sarah Palin
> and
> her family. When she ran for VP they sent 30+ reporters and
> investigators
> to Alaska for the sole purpose of digging up dirt on her. After she
> left
> political office and published her book, one major news network
> assigned
> eleven full time investigators to scour through her book looking for
> any
> errors or typos. And now, even the mention of her name sends
> liberals in
> to hateful, disparaging rants. Seriously, what has Sarah Palin
> done to
> deserve this unprecedented level of hate and personal attacks?
I don't hate her. Not someone I would want to hang out with, but I
don't hate her. What is most disconcerting about her is that large
numbers of so-called "conservatives" seem to like her (as in, willing
to put her in charge of important stuff like her). That is beyond
dangerous. In case you haven't noticed, she is a bit of an airhead.
I agree, it's not hate, it's fear. Not that kind of fear.... It's an
uprise over fearing that there are enough uninformed people in America
to actually vote her into the presidency. Now that's scary. Happened
in 2004 actually.
Would you cast your vote for Sarah Palin to become the President of
the United States of America?
Ancient Roman society understood the importance of family values as a
source of great strength in the survival as a successful civilization.
This is what the left-wing fears and hates.
They want a weak United States in order to, abuse, ruin and control it.
Those of the left wing aren't just called communists, they -are-
America-hating communists.
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> I don't hate her. Not someone I would want to hang out with, but I
> don't hate her. What is most disconcerting about her is that large
> numbers of so-called "conservatives" seem to like her (as in,
> willing to put her in charge of important stuff like her). That is
> beyond dangerous. In case you haven't noticed, she is a bit of an
> airhead.
Forgot my favorite Palin quote:
"We're set up, unlike other states in the union, where it's
collectively
Alaskans own the resources. So we share in the wealth when the
development
of these resources occurs."
Wow, so you think the millions of people that approve of Obama want to
drive America into the ground, crush it, ruin it, weaken it, control
it, destroy it?????????
?????????
Why would we WANT TO DO THAT? We love America.
You had your chance to make YOUR America, now it's ours.
"Irish Mike" <ad7...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
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>I am totally serious about this question. Why do liberals have such
> intense, unbridled hatred for Sarah Palin? I have heard numerous,
> long-time political reporters and analysts say that in all their years of
> covering politics and politicians, they have never seen any thing even
> approaching the volume and viciousness of the attacks on Sarah Palin and
> her family.
Total bullshit. Change the channel.
When she ran for VP they sent 30+ reporters and investigators
> to Alaska for the sole purpose of digging up dirt on her.
Which all of the media had done for all of the other candidates over a
period of several months or years. With her, it was a blank page. Gotcha
journalism os the standard now, why should she get a pass.
> political office and published her book, one major news network assigned
> eleven full time investigators to scour through her book looking for any
> errors or typos.
So what? It is a private company, and accusing the AP of being liberal
redefines the term.
> And now, even the mention of her name sends liberals in
> to hateful, disparaging rants.
Well, from here it sends me quickly to the remote control. Reruns of
Rockford Files are way more interesting than this clusterF.
It's pretty clear that she was woefully underqualified to hold
the national office that she was running for.
Sending 30+ reporters and investigators is SOP for any relative
unknown who is nominated for high public office, and I don't
find that the least bit unreasonable. The same thing would have
happened if the Democrats had nominated a one-term governor from
a small state-- Geraldine Ferraro is a good example.
-Patti
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Patti Beadles, Oakland, CA |
pattib~pattib.org | All religions are equally
http://www.pattib.org/ | ludicrous, and should be ridiculed
http://stopshootingauto.com | as often as possible. C. Bond
> Forgot my favorite Palin quote:
>
> "We're set up, unlike other states in the union, where it's
> collectively Alaskans own the resources. So we share in
> the wealth when the development of these resources occurs."
Ah! So she's a communist that believes in socialism. Just what I thought.
Jerry (lol) 'n Vegas
- I'd like to help you out. Which way did you come in?
Hate? Hate is something conservatives had/have for Bill Clinton.
Liberals dislike of Palin will never match the true hate conservatives show
towards Bill Clinton.
Palin - she looks like she would make a nice wife (nice looking,
happy-go-lucky, pretty, a little stuck up in a sweet way, etc...) but a
horrible president of the U.S. She just doesn't seem well versed in the
running of the world.
> It's because she's a legitimate conservative, which is merely
> being pro-America, religion and family values.
So what's an 'illegitimate' conservative?
> Ancient Roman society understood the importance of family
> values as a source of great strength in the survival as
> a successful civilization.
That's a liberal philosophy, thanks.
> This is what the left-wing fears and hates.
We hate family values? You're as stupid as Irish Mike.
> They want a weak United States in
> order to, abuse, ruin and control it.
Repeating Rush Limbaugh without knowing what you're talking about. Your
stupid desperation is so funny.
Jerry 'n Vegas
- I predict that today will be remembered until tomorrow!
> I am totally serious about this question.
People that use the word "totally" in this fashion betray their age and
immaturity.
> Why do liberals have such intense, unbridled hatred for Sarah Palin?
And a person that would believe this is stupid. So you're young, immature
and stupid.
Now that some of us have shown, "Cut & Paste & Run" Mike how wrong he is; do
you suppose he'll respond; or run?
Jerry 'n Vegas
- Gross Ignorance: 144 times worse than ordinary ignorance.
> I think
> that she has done the country a tremendous disservice by spreading
> rumors that have no basis in fact, such as her "death panels"
> nonsense.
Ah, that's a real comfort. Miss Pro-Death herself, thinks the "death
panels" are nonsense. Wow, everyone can rest easy now.
Peepinjay sticks his wacky nose in adult conversation, "Peep peep
peep."
> most liberals invent traumatic childhoods. anything that reminds them of
> mommy or daddy, they instinctively attack.
Well, it looks like Nicolle Wallace, former McCain campaign senior adviser,
has her claws out and aimed at Sarah for making shit up about the McCain
camp:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34002562/ns/politics-more_politics/
But, in the interests of fairness and goodness, I propose that this matter
be settled where it belongs...in the oil wrestling ring. Palin vs. Wallace
for all the marbles, on pay-per-view and broadcast live from Hogs & Heifers
in NYC, with all proceeds going to feed the hungry children. You'd go along
with that wouldn't you, Mo? You know...for the children.
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I am quite sure that 70 years ago there were plenty like Patti who thought
the idea of "death panels" ever happening in Germany was nonsense. So
smart, yet so foolish.
-Pee Pee
Golly! That sounds like communism. And Sarah's in favor of that? and
IM? What does he think about Sarah's communistic tendencies?
>> most liberals invent traumatic childhoods. anything that reminds them of
>> mommy or daddy, they instinctively attack.
>
>
> Well, it looks like Nicolle Wallace, former McCain campaign senior
> adviser, has her claws out and aimed at Sarah for making shit up about the
> McCain camp:
>
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34002562/ns/politics-more_politics/
>
>
> But, in the interests of fairness and goodness
Fairness might mention that McCain asked his aides NOT to discuss Palin's
book.
> , I propose that this matter be settled where it belongs...in the oil
> wrestling ring. Palin vs. Wallace for all the marbles, on pay-per-view
> and broadcast live from Hogs & Heifers in NYC, with all proceeds going to
> feed the hungry children. You'd go along with that wouldn't you, Mo? You
> know...for the children.
Making fun is a sometimes a good strategy ... I have found that in court, a
male lawyer making fun of a woman on the stand seldom scores any positive
points ... in politics, the same might come across as petty and mean
spirited. There is still a bit of a double standard with men making jokes
about women ... crude ones ... like hogs and heifers and stuff like that.
And if that wasnt bad enough , there are a group of guys wearing
confederate flag 'doo-rags" egging her on .
When she is done dancing , she asks the guys if she is sexy , and for some
reason , they are hyponotized into saying "yes" (23 %), while the rest of
the guys in the bar are throwing up!!
It isnt "HATE" ..it is amazement that anyone could be so stupid as to
think she deserves to be in any position in the government .
OH OHH WAIT .. she WAS in government? ... and she QUIT??
Do the morons on the right remember that ?
With 'so much work to do for the Stateof Alaska ?" . she quit for money ?
What if she were elected president , and someone offered her 200 million
to quit ..would she do it ?
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from the guy who always brings up penises .. comes a post from left field
(or should I say right field) , about mommy and daddy
MO.. anything you need to share with us ?
Just when you think that youve been gypped ..the bearded lady comes and
does a double back flip!!! John Hiatt in "Buffalo River Home"
> It's because she's a legitimate conservative, which is merely being
> pro-America, religion and family values.
>
You mean "family values" like trotting out her pregnant daughter and
proclaiming the upcoming nuptial between her and the father ...only to
find out that it WAS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN ?
Exactly which part of family values does this fit under ?
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> "Irish Mike"
>
>
> > I am totally serious about this question.
>
> People that use the word "totally" in this fashion betray their age and
> immaturity.
Yes, you moron, I am young and immature. I fought in Vietnam when I was
five, graduated from college when I was nine and took an early corporate
retirement when I was twenty.
Irish Mike
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"Patrick Karl" <jpk...@gmaiil.com> wrote in message
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>> "We're set up, unlike other states in the union, where it's
>> collectively
>> Alaskans own the resources. So we share in the wealth when the
>> development
>> of these resources occurs."
>
> Golly! That sounds like communism. And Sarah's in favor of that?
> and IM? What does he think about Sarah's communistic tendencies?
To put it in context, iirc she was justifying the windfall tax her
administration put on the oil companies during that period of sky-high
prices and record profits.
WOW pp ..SOOO BENEATH YOU !!
Just when you think that youve been gypped ..the bearded lady comes and
does a double back flip!!! John Hiatt in "Buffalo River Home"
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> On Nov 18 2009 5:32 PM, Jerry Sturdivant wrote:
>
> > "Irish Mike"
> >
> >
> > > I am totally serious about this question.
> >
> > People that use the word "totally" in this fashion betray their age and
> > immaturity.
>
> Yes, you moron, I am young and immature. I fought in Vietnam when I was
> five, graduated from college when I was nine and took an early corporate
> retirement when I was twenty.
>
> Irish Mike
LEMME GUESS .. RETIRED FROM UNITED TELEPHONE ?
Just when you think that youve been gypped ..the bearded lady comes and
does a double back flip!!! John Hiatt in "Buffalo River Home"
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Lighten up, John.
> WOW pp ..SOOO BENEATH YOU !!
>
And what are YOU talking about, numbskull? I'm telling it exactly how it
is. Some folks, like you apparently, and CERTAINLY Patti, just never learn
from history. Why do you think that "death panels" are an impossibility
here in THIS country? That's just as stupid as when PokerChimp said that
there could never be another holocaust because people are nicer now than
they were in 1939. What the fuck are you talking about, "beneath me"? What
is beneath YOU? Anything? Correct me if I am wrong, but it SAYS "death
panels" in the legislation. I don't have to listen to Sarah Palin to know
that. A few years ago I watched in horror as they tortured Terri Shiavo to
death in the cruelest of ways by starving her for TWO FUCKING WEEKS, in
front of the whole nation, with the fucking government approving of all of
it. And you don't think we could see death panels? Huh, numb nuts? I'll
tellya what, pal, it's not only likely that we will see death panels, but
it's almost guaranteeed. And this pink-haired idiot is talking about it
being nonsense? This is a monster who has repeated stated on RGP her belief
that an unborn baby is not a baby but rather just a "clump of cells".
That's her words, not mine. So don't rag on me, numb nuts. There's nothing
wrong with me, there's something wrong with Patti Beadles, but not me. I'm
one of the good guys. So bite me.
-PP
It's not Sarah Palin in particular that liberals hate. They hate anyone that
is not liberal. They're liberalists.
--
"It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong."
- Voltaire
That's unbelievable. First Travel praises the "family values" of
ANCIENT ROME" and you claim those values for your own. What, if
anything, were either of you thinking.
The Roman father had the power of life and death over his children
until they were adults. He had access to all the girls and boys he
wanted, via slavery. Not raping slaves was considered a virtue, not
because of the slave's lack of consent, not because the slave had any
rights, but because it showed PROPER ROMAN SELF-CONTROL. And it was no
big deal if you didn't exercise this virtue.
Rome was a cancer on civilization. It's too bad the Goths and the
Vandals and the Huns were so fucking SLOW.
--
Will in New Haven
OK.
I did see Obama on FOX news this evening. I thought he was very impressive.
I wish he had a different political and economic philosophy ... he is a
great salesman.
>On Nov 18, 3:14�pm, "Irish Mike" <ad7c...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>> I am totally serious about this question. �Why do liberals have such
>> intense, unbridled hatred for Sarah Palin? �I have heard numerous,
>> long-time political reporters and analysts say that in all their years of
>> covering politics and politicians, they have never seen any thing even
>> approaching the volume and viciousness of the attacks on Sarah Palin and
>> her family. �When she ran for VP they sent 30+ reporters and investigators
>> to Alaska for the sole purpose of digging up dirt on her. �After she left
>> political office and published her book, one major news network assigned
>> eleven full time investigators to scour through her book looking for any
>> errors or typos. �And now, even the mention of her name sends liberals in
>> to hateful, disparaging rants. � Seriously, what has Sarah Palin done to
>> deserve this unprecedented level of hate and personal attacks? �
>>
>> Irish Mike
Hate and fear are two closely allied emotions.
I would say it is a "perfect storm" consisting of both emotions.
You can see all the Lefties here in a great big pack of wild dogs,
snarling and biting.
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>I agree, it's not hate, it's fear. Not that kind of fear.... It's an
>uprise over fearing that there are enough uninformed people in America
>to actually vote her into the presidency. Now that's scary. Happened
>in 2004 actually.
>
It happened again in 2008.
>Would you cast your vote for Sarah Palin to become the President of
>the United States of America?
After another 3 years of watching Obowma fumble, bumble and stumble
his way along, people would probably even settle for Joe Biden.
Just think of his latest bright idea.
They are going to bring a whole passel of Terrorists into New York
City, and try to run a civilian trial.
That media circus is going to make the OJ trial seem like a case of
somebody suing a laundry for ruining their new dress.
I don't think even Judge Judy would be up to the job.
Every Terrorist in the world is going to think about converging on NY
to show support for their own.
>
> Every Terrorist in the world is going to think about converging on NY
> to show support for their own.
Kewlll! A terrorist convention. Centered at Madison Square if it is
available. Of course it is, this is going to be big. Better than the
Shriners, but pretty cheap on the hookers.
If you dislike based on smugness you must REALLY dislike Obama.
So why didn't the media fact check either of Obama's books, or send a
team of reporters to Chicago dig up Obama dirt?
>Better than the
>Shriners, but pretty cheap on the hookers.
like you charge in the first place, shriners or whoever would be that
drunk.
Cheap on the hookers?
I don't think so.
Jihadis get a special dispensation when their on their way to a
suicide mission.
They get to sample the pleasures of the flesh before they go.
Don't you remember all the reports of the 911 hijackers at strip
clubs?
You don't think they spent all their time just looking and copping a
feel once in a while, do you?
The strippers couldn't very well admit that they did a little business
off the books, could they?
Damn, are you ever naive.
Nothing like that intense unbridled hatred?
They can't know much about American politics (Or, much more likely, they're
lying).
Aaron Burr killed Alexander Hamilton (and yes, it probably WAS as Gore Vidal
suggests because Hamilton had gone around hinting that Burr had boinked his
own daughter, subsequently lost at sea). Now THAT is hatred. And then
Jefferson had Burr tried for treason something like half a dozen times--on
evidence so thin that he couldn't get a conviction once.
Of course Rep. Preston Brooks famously brained Sen Charles Sumner with a
walking stick on the floor of The Senate (while a companion covered the
other senators with a gun) over a personal insult to his uncle.
More recently, you might read some coverage of Eleanor Roosevelt in
Republican newspapers.
And how do you feel about the Clintons, by the way?
As Tom Lehrer put it in a song [hatred:} "It's American as apple pie"
We don't. The right seems to have an unexplainable need to believe we do.
If we have hatred for anyone about it, it's for the people who hate America
enough to want to put an airheaded hood ornament like her in charge of it.
Jim
> I am totally serious about this question. Why do liberals have such
> intense, unbridled hatred for Sarah Palin?
Because they're jealous.
I have heard numerous,
> long-time political reporters and analysts say that in all their years of
> covering politics and politicians, they have never seen any thing even
> approaching the volume and viciousness of the attacks on Sarah Palin
I guess they're too young to remember LBJ. Or Nixon.
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I'm not.
And no one would be "attacking" Palin if a) she weren't still being postured
as a possible occupant of our country's highest offices, or b) she were even
*remotely* qualified to occupy them.
Jim
>I have heard numerous,
>> long-time political reporters and analysts say that in all their years of
>> covering politics and politicians, they have never seen any thing even
>> approaching the volume and viciousness of the attacks on Sarah Palin
>
>I guess they're too young to remember LBJ. Or Nixon.
Or the Jefferson/Adams presidential election. Or the press coverage of
Andrew Jackson during his presidential campaign.
Our history is full of vicious press. <yawn>
Peg
Howard Beale
Or not.
For the Denver-based American Right to Life, when it comes to
abortion, Palin is as impure as any godless feminist. "[H]er
words and actions prove that she is officially pro-choice and
stands against the God-given right to life of the unborn," they
write in a new report. ARTL members plan to educate reporters
about Palin's many alleged failings as a true believer,
particularly her March nomination of a former Planned Parenthood
board member to the Alaska Supreme Court and her refusal to call
for a ban on the morning-after pill.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2009/11/american-right-to-life-abortion-protest-sarah-palin
Jim
>I think it's scary that somebody that unqualified
>got that close to the presidency,
so you must be terrified someone like barry actually got in, talk
about unqualified and no experience.
She draws the crowds. Oprah had her second highest rated show in 2 years
when Palin was on. She's wildly popular in her circles and her circle is
very large which is what the libs don't understand.
HB
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uhhh Turb, you do know there have been 191 terrorist convictions in the US
since 01 right? And that Zac Moussaoui 9-11 terrorist got tried in NY and
things went smoothly enough. Is there something that makes this one
different? Or is it just the same knee jerk criticism you feel obligated
to launch whenever Obama bows or takes his wife on a date?
Opie-GManager
Rec.Gambling.Poker
Assistant Newsgroup Coordinator reporting to Mr. Popinjay
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> I am totally serious about this question. Why do liberals have such
> intense, unbridled hatred for Sarah Palin?
There is no hate. Only fear there are enough idiots to vote for her one
day.
> I have heard numerous,
> long-time political reporters and analysts say that in all their years of
> covering politics and politicians, they have never seen any thing even
> approaching the volume and viciousness of the attacks on Sarah Palin and
> her family.
Really Mike? You've heard NUMEROUS reporters say this? Name one not on
the Murdoch payroll.
Opie-GManager
Rec.Gambling.Poker
Assistant Newsgroup Coordinator reporting to Mr. Popinjay
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We understand. We just don't care.
Her "circles" are increasingly irrelevant and are tearing the GOP in at
least three different directions.
Go Sarah!
Jim
> > Just think of his latest bright idea.
> > They are going to bring a whole passel of Terrorists into New York
> > City, and try to run a civilian trial.
>
> uhhh Turb, you do know there have been 191 terrorist convictions in the US
> since 01 right? And that Zac Moussaoui 9-11 terrorist got tried in NY and
> things went smoothly enough. Is there something that makes this one
> different? Or is it just the same knee jerk criticism you feel obligated
> to launch whenever Obama bows or takes his wife on a date?
>
> Opie-GManager
KSM was arrested in Pakistan and is an enemy combatant. Moussaoui was
arrested in Minnesota.
Obama's decision to try these muslim terrorists in NYC is not only
unnecessary but incredibly stupid. KSM already plead guilty in a military
hearing and was set to be tried in a military tribunal. Obama is handing
muslim terrorists the greatest full color, prime time recruiting tool they
could ever have hoped for. What a stupid decision.
Irish Mike
President Obama has decided to send 40,000 additional troops to fight in
the war against Fox News.
Recession: When your neighbor loses his job.
Depression: When you lose your job.
Recovery: When Obama loses his job.
>
>
>"Patrick Karl" <jpk...@gmaiil.com> wrote in message
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>
>>> "We're set up, unlike other states in the union, where it's
>>> collectively
>>> Alaskans own the resources. So we share in the wealth when the
>>> development
>>> of these resources occurs."
>>
>> Golly! That sounds like communism. And Sarah's in favor of that?
>> and IM? What does he think about Sarah's communistic tendencies?
>
>To put it in context, iirc she was justifying the windfall tax her
>administration put on the oil companies during that period of sky-high
>prices and record profits.
So, she's anti-business and pro-taxes. Commie!
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>On Nov 18 2009 3:14 PM, Irish Mike wrote:
>
>> I am totally serious about this question. Why do liberals have such
>> intense, unbridled hatred for Sarah Palin?
>
>Because they're jealous.
>
> I have heard numerous,
>> long-time political reporters and analysts say that in all their years of
>> covering politics and politicians, they have never seen any thing even
>> approaching the volume and viciousness of the attacks on Sarah Palin
>
>I guess they're too young to remember LBJ. Or Nixon.
Or Clinton. Or Obama.
patti called all unborn "parasites".
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>>> Ancient Roman society understood the importance of family
>>> values as a source of great strength in the survival as
>>> a successful civilization.
>> That's a liberal philosophy, thanks.
> That's unbelievable. First Travel praises the "family values" of
> ANCIENT ROME" and you claim those values for your own.
What's wrong with that? I kind of like those values; don't you?
> The Roman father had the power of life and death over his
> children until they were adults.
Now THAT sounds like a southern, Mississippi, backwoods conservative thing.
> Rome was a cancer on civilization.
How about Ancient Egypt?
Jerry (just ancient) 'n Vegas
- Some minds require dynamite to open them!
tell us more!
mo_charles
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>>> I am totally serious about this question.
>> People that use the word "totally" in this fashion
>> betray their age and immaturity.
> Yes, you moron, I am young and immature.
Thank you, I thought I recognized that. Now about your error in reading
liberals' wrong about Palin? Huh?
> I fought in Vietnam when I was five, graduated from
> college when I was nine and took an early corporate
> retirement when I was twenty.
Wow, that's good. Now about your error in reading liberals' wrong about
Palin? You did say you were, 'totally' serious.
Jerry 'n Vegas
- Save the whales. Collect the whole set.
>> Golly! That sounds like communism. And Sarah's in
>> favor of that? and IM? What does he think about
>> Sarah's communistic tendencies?
> To put it in context, iirc she was justifying the windfall tax her
> administration put on the oil companies during that period of
> sky-high prices and record profits.
Oh, it started before her. Residents of Alaska (starting at a certain date)
receive money from the state; which gets it from the oil companies. They don't
share that larceny with the rest of the country.
How about if each state does that? The State of Washington could charge the
lumber companies and give it to just Washington residents (starting at a
certain date). Nevada could open the nuke waste storage and charge each
state that sends it's nuke waste and we residents could collect.
We could change to the Un-United States of America.
Jerry 'n Vegas
- Some of my best friends are Republicans.
> Hate and fear are two closely allied emotions.
> I would say it is a "perfect storm" consisting of both emotions.
>
> You can see all the Lefties here in a great big pack of wild dogs,
> snarling and biting.
The laughing. You ignore the laughing.
Jerry 'n Vegas
- Support Mental Health. Or I'll kill you.
> Obama's decision to try these muslim terrorists in NYC is
> not only unnecessary but incredibly stupid. KSM already
> plead guilty in a military hearing and was set to be tried
> in a military tribunal.
But the world sees it as being under duress. Bush allowed "Rounding up of
the usual suspects," (bounty) and years of torture. You have yet to address
it; the rest of the world has.
Jerry 'n Vegas
- Sign outside brothel: On vacation. Beat it.
Don't worry, bub, by the time he leaves office in January 2017, he'll
have plenty of experience. Heck, he's already learned not to try
compromising with GOP congress members!
- Bob
AND STILL JUST AS FUCKING STUPID
Just when you think that youve been gypped ..the bearded lady comes and
does a double back flip!!! John Hiatt in "Buffalo River Home"
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> So, she's anti-business and pro-taxes. Commie!
Well, yes. I guess you could say she was for it before she was against
it ... but then went back to being for it, and then quit so she
wouldn't have to think about it.
> I am totally serious about this question. Why do liberals have such
> intense, unbridled hatred for Sarah Palin? I have heard numerous,
> long-time political reporters and analysts say that in all their years of
> covering politics and politicians, they have never seen any thing even
> approaching the volume and viciousness of the attacks on Sarah Palin and
> her family.
I can only assume you were asleep for the majority of the Clinton
Administration?
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>patti called all unborn "parasites".
Parasite, n: An organism that lives in or on and takes its
nourishment from another organism. A parasite cannot live
independently.
Do you not think that an embryo or fetus fits that definition?
-Patti
--
Patti Beadles, Oakland, CA |
pattib~pattib.org | All religions are equally
http://www.pattib.org/ | ludicrous, and should be ridiculed
http://stopshootingauto.com | as often as possible. C. Bond
one year olds fit your definition too. why be such a phony? come on out
and SAY what you REALLY MEAN.
mo_charles
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>one year olds fit your definition too.
Nice try. One-year-olds are not dependent on any single host
organism for nutrition. If they were, newborns wouldn't be
adoptable.
.. and premature births would be impossible. your definition's garbage,
and you know it. so, let's get at what you REALLY believe.
mo_charles
Why do righties love her so much ?
She is an idiot , a quitter and a religious whack job
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>>>one year olds fit your definition too.
>> Nice try. One-year-olds are not dependent on any single
>> host organism for nutrition. If they were, newborns wouldn't
>> be adoptable.
> .. and premature births would be impossible. your definition's
> garbage, and you know it. so, let's get at what you REALLY believe.
It's obvious you have absolutely no clue as to what a parasite or host is.
You only embarrass yourself.
Jerry 'n Vegas
- CONSERVATIVES Looks like we'll have to BLAST our way out...
To be fair, she has at least a 10% chance of being able to spell "question",
with enough coaching.
The press was extremely fair to her. You know darn well she is probably one
of the whack jobs that believe:
A. The world is only 6000-some years old.
B. Osama and Saddam were buddies.
C. If you can just egg on Israel to finally capture all of Palestine then
JC will return with armies raised from to dead to wipe out the forces of
evil (which she doesn't realize was actually Rome).
D. Reagan defeated the Soviet Union.
E. Socialism is evil
Ea. Universal health care is evil
Eb. A scientific education is evil.
Honest questioning by the press would have revealed all of the above,
prolly, or caught her lying?
>
>mo_charles <harry...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>one year olds fit your definition too.
>
>Nice try. One-year-olds are not dependent on any single host
>organism for nutrition. If they were, newborns wouldn't be
>adoptable.
If most people would realize that the word "parasite" isn't
necessarily a negative word, they wouldn't even hassle you on the
point.
Peg
> On Nov 18, 9:28�pm, bub <b...@plottus.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:31:43 -0800 (PST), "Bob T."
> >
> > <b...@synapse-cs.com> wrote:
> > >I think it's scary that somebody that unqualified
> > >got that close to the presidency,
> >
> > so you must be terrified someone like barry actually got in, talk
> > about unqualified and no experience.
>
> Don't worry, bub, by the time he leaves office in January 2013, he'll
> have plenty of experience. Heck, he's already learned not to try
> compromising with GOP congress members!
FYP
>
> - Bob
Brew
--
Hatred is purity...weakness is disease!
FEAR - Foreign Policy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOCcbKAhlY0
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> On Nov 18 2009 3:14 PM, Irish Mike wrote:
>
> > I am totally serious about this question. Why do liberals have such
> > intense, unbridled hatred for Sarah Palin? I have heard numerous,
> > long-time political reporters and analysts say that in all their years of
> > covering politics and politicians, they have never seen any thing even
> > approaching the volume and viciousness of the attacks on Sarah Palin and
> > her family.
>
> I can only assume you were asleep for the majority of the Clinton
> Administration?
I was wide awake and, to the best of my knowledge, Sarah Palin never got
caught receiving oral sex from a 21 year old staffer in the oval office.
Irish Mike
Obama has decided to send 40,000 additional troops to fight in the war
against Fox News.
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Remind me again just how well we're doing w/ the geniuses that have been
in charge. Pick any administration, I'm not biased.
HB
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Mike let me help you out here. Chris was referring to the volume and
viciousness of the attacks against Bill Clinton that you and many famous
journalists to remain unnamed have called miniscule compared to those
against Sarah Palin.
Your post makes has zero intellectual coherency in the realm of this
subthread since you don't address the volume/viciousness of the attacks on
Clinton - you only offer an excuse for them.
Give it another shot. No need to thank me for the help, it's my job.
Opie-GManager
Rec.Gambling.Poker
Assistant Newsgroup Coordinator reporting to Mr. Popinjay
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>If most people would realize that the word "parasite" isn't
>necessarily a negative word, they wouldn't even hassle you on the
>point.
Sure they would-- they're just trying to pick a fight. It
doesn't bother me, really, since I just keep my end of the
discussion on facts and logic. Parasite is a scientific term
with a clear definition, and an embryo/fetus is absolutely
within the bounds of that definition.
We're not supposed to care what the rest of the world thinks. Get
with the program.
>patti called all unborn "parasites".
That's because the knows something about biology.
when you call an "embry/fetus" a "clump of cells" or a "parasite",
skewering it and tossing it into the sink becomes a whole lot easier.
your use of words (though misguided, inaccurate, and anything but logical
and/or factual) serves a purpose, patti. what's your point? what are you
ACTUALLY trying to say?
mo_charles
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>On Nov 18 2009 3:14 PM, Irish Mike wrote:
>
>> I am totally serious about this question. Why do liberals have such
>> intense, unbridled hatred for Sarah Palin? I have heard numerous,
>> long-time political reporters and analysts say that in all their years of
>> covering politics and politicians, they have never seen any thing even
>> approaching the volume and viciousness of the attacks on Sarah Palin and
>> her family.
>
>I can only assume you were asleep for the majority of the Clinton
>Administration?
>
Clinton was a real, live President making decisions that affected all
of us.
Palin is only one among many out-of-office Repos (albeit the most
prominent) who are only possible contenders for 2012.
Even at that, she is a longshot among the other contenders.
The question still stands.
Why are the Libs and the MSM carrying on such a sustained attack on
her?
The BDS phenomena is easy to understand.
The ODS phenomena is easy to understand.
The PDS phenomena is something else again.
Of course I have my very own explanation, which is roundly denied by
the Libs and Progressives.
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Hate and Fear - 2 closely related emotions.
>> > She draws the crowds. Oprah had her second highest rated show in 2 years
>> > when Palin was on. She's wildly popular in her circles and her circle is
>> > very large which is what the libs don't understand.
>> >
>> >
>> > HB
>>
>> AND STILL JUST AS FUCKING STUPID
>
>
>Remind me again just how well we're doing w/ the geniuses that have been
>in charge. Pick any administration, I'm not biased.
Are you suggesting that we'd be better off with someone even more
stupid?
>> > > they have never seen any thing even
>> > > approaching the volume and viciousness of the attacks on Sarah Palin and
>> > > her family.
>> >
>> > I can only assume you were asleep for the majority of the Clinton
>> > Administration?
>>
>> I was wide awake and, to the best of my knowledge, Sarah Palin never got
>> caught receiving oral sex from a 21 year old staffer in the oval office.
>
>Mike let me help you out here. Chris was referring to the volume and
>viciousness of the attacks against Bill Clinton that you and many famous
>journalists to remain unnamed have called miniscule compared to those
>against Sarah Palin.
>
>Your post makes has zero intellectual coherency in the realm of this
>subthread since you don't address the volume/viciousness of the attacks on
>Clinton - you only offer an excuse for them.
And he says it as if receiving oral sex is smong the worst offenses a
president can commit.
> The question still stands.
> Why are the Libs and the MSM carrying on such a sustained attack on
> her?
Because she is posturing for a future run at office, has quit her job in
Alaska, and has endeavored to make some political hay in the Lower 48 (as
she calls it in her book) by her book and book tour. You act like poor
little Sarah is still just toiling away up in Alaska minding her own
business and "the Libs and the MSM" just decided to launch a gratuitous
attack on her. She's putting herself in the public's political eye and is
thus fair game.
She's an ambitious woman. I've gathered as much from her book so far.
"James L. Hankins" <jhan...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> She's an ambitious woman. I've gathered as much from her book so
> far.
"80% of success is showing up"
> "FL Turbo" <noem...@notime.com> wrote in message
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Sarah Palin is so hot. I would love to do her. I have posted the
following before --
I think the Republicans should have a Palin/Bachmann ticket in 2012.
You know, Michele Bachmann, that nutcase Republican congresslady? I
think she is also superhot. I get a hardon everytime I see Michele on
TV.
I think it would be one hell of a ticket. Surely Sarah and Michele
would get a lot of women's votes, and a lot of votes from horny old
dudes like me who think these two 50 year old MILFs are extremely
fuckable.
William Coleman (ramashiva)
>
> when you call an "embry/fetus" a "clump of cells" or a "parasite",
> skewering it and tossing it into the sink becomes a whole lot easier.
> your use of words (though misguided, inaccurate, and anything but logical
> and/or factual) serves a purpose, patti. what's your point? what are you
> ACTUALLY trying to say?
>
There's no debate. Either you know in your heart that abortion is murder,
or you don't have a heart. That's all. Case closed. Someone obviously did
a serious number on Patti in HER childhood. Something just ain't right.
It's sad, but I don't have time to feel sorry for her because there's just
too many like her. You can't go through life feeling sorry for everyone who
is misguided, for everyone who has no soul. There's too many. Her heart
pumps ice water, and we just have to accept it.
-PP
<...>
> There's no debate. Either you know in your heart that abortion is murder,
> or you don't have a heart...
Either you know in your heart that forced pregnancy is slavery, or you
consider women to be chattel.
Jim
> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:18:26 -0800, "Howard Beale"
> <a1...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>
> >> > She draws the crowds. Oprah had her second highest rated show in 2
years
> >> > when Palin was on. She's wildly popular in her circles and her circle
is
> >> > very large which is what the libs don't understand.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > HB
> >>
> >> AND STILL JUST AS FUCKING STUPID
> >
> >
> >Remind me again just how well we're doing w/ the geniuses that have been
> >in charge. Pick any administration, I'm not biased.
>
> Are you suggesting that we'd be better off with someone even more
> stupid?
> --
> ~ Seth Jackson
I'm pointing out that those who think they're so smart are not actually so
smart. I'd bet good money that if you yourself were in charge, just you
and no congress or courts, you'd do a better job than the bunch of 'them'
put together. And, the horror, she'd probably do better also because it
can hardly be worse, imo.
HB
<...>
> I'm pointing out that those who think they're so smart are not
> actually so smart...
You've been telling people that your whole life, haven't you?
Jim
Yes.
HB
The desperation of the Republicans is evident in their hopeless and
helplessness. They screwed up when they had control; they�ve admitted as
much. Now that Bush has left and returned to seclusion and dark lord Cheney
has slunk off into the shadows, the GOP is rudderless. They don�t even
listen to McCain � let alone Sarah � and he was their presidential choice.
All they have to cling to is the echo of cheering they received when they
picked Sarah from the far reaches of our country. That�s all they have and
it sure ain�t much.
So they�ve picked her up like a rag doll, point to her and say, �Why do you
hate her?� Knowing full well it�s not hate. Her party wasn�t wanted; she
wasn�t qualified and she wasn�t voted for. We didn�t hate McCain. We thought
Bush was stupid and inept. It�s not hate of Sarah; it�s ridicule for holding
her up out of desperation.
Try again.
Jerry �n Vegas
- Lobotomies for Republicans - It's the Law!
>> >
>> >Remind me again just how well we're doing w/ the geniuses that have been
>> >in charge. Pick any administration, I'm not biased.
>>
>> Are you suggesting that we'd be better off with someone even more
>> stupid?
>> --
>> ~ Seth Jackson
>
>I'm pointing out that those who think they're so smart are not actually so
>smart. I'd bet good money that if you yourself were in charge, just you
>and no congress or courts, you'd do a better job than the bunch of 'them'
>put together.
Sure, because I'd be a benevolent dictator. The most efficient form
of government. Of course, we all know the obvious problem with any
form of dictatorship.
>And, the horror, she'd probably do better also because it
>can hardly be worse, imo.
In her case, she certainly could be worse.
Just a response to a few of the points on the many available among the
plethora of idiocy on this thread.
1) Clavey's bogusly misleading assertion that Sarah Palin appointed a
pro- abortion judge to the Alaska Supreme Court: in Alaska, the judges
considered for the state Supreme Court by the Govrnor are two nominees
picked from a list of six applicants by the 7 member panel of the Alaska
Judicial Council.
The Judge Sarah Palin chose was the lesser of evils of two nominees.
The one she didn't choose, (Judge Smith) was particularly opposite her
on specific enviromental issues. She didn't want either one of the
nominees, and Alaska conservative groups didn't like the two nominees;
however, one conservative group preferred smith as the lesser of two
evils. The eventual appointee was against the Sarah Palin backed: "girls
under 17 must have parental consent for abortion" legislation.
Governor Palin, with two liberals as the nominees, had no choice in her
appointment with regard to political disposition of the appointee; she
obviously would have appointed a conservative if she had that choice.
It is possible for a governor of Alaska to refuse both nominees and
demand that the choice be made from the entire, original 6 candidates
for the appointment; however, this is seen as controversial and may not
have aaccomplished the desired outcome in the end; also, the original
list of the six applicants may not have been of significant improvement.
.........
2) Also, with regard to Dopey Manager, who's mostly snark but all
retard, some Liberal/Democrat commentators have indeed expressed their
agreement that Sarah Palin has been unfairly attacked, especially in
the area of "sexism?.
Moron. it's the left wing media that's doing the attacking, that's the
point. Of course you're going to hear fair and balanced commentators on
FOX loudly objecting to obvious and unprecedented attacks, and not the
left wing who are doing the attacking in the first place. Is the left
wing media going to attack itself for unfairly attacking Sarah Palin?
Also, The media bent over backwards in protecting Clinton. It just
proves to demonstrate just how bad Clinton was, when they (the media)
couldn't avoid reporting on that fraction of the truth about Clinton
that they did report. He wasn't impeached because a blow job. His deals
with China or a number of any other "unreported" scandals were plenty
enough. Not to mention that he lied under oath of course.
Plus, how did the media treat Clinton while he was a candidate compared
to Sarah Palin? How about before he even announced? How about citicism
about his time as governor? You're not only a snarky idiot, but a
dishonest idiot.
3) To Will In New Haven: what could you be thinking? Many of the laws,
philosophy, and mores of society we observe today originated from
ancient Rome. The value of the family unit is one of the most important
traits in society that's been preserved.
blah, blah, blah...she doesn't believe in evolution. That's pretty much all
I need to hear.
But Travel would totally do her.
Doesn't that count for anything?
Jim
No one needs to believe in it. It happened and it is continuing to
happen. There will be no vote or poll that can change this. Having a
POTUS who thinks this is a political issue would be unfortunate but
evolution would go on.
She is smarter than many of her detractors would like to believe. She
is shrewd enough to know that being the losing nominee of a fading
party would be a good career-move for someone who would otherwise be a
nobody. If she doesn't get the nomination it would be a good sign that
the Republican Party is not willing to fade away.
--
Will in New Haven