RGP Poll: Most Awful Movies

[Clave]

Just got done watching "Greystoke" -- a fabulously beautiful, classic movie,
well produced, costumed, acted and in every way just god-damned amazing.
It's also distinguished by its overwhelming number of sheer heartbreaking
moments, unredeemed by anything. It's a beautiful, awful movie that will
haunt anyone who sees it.

I'm reminded of the TV-produced version of Frankenstein with Michael
Sarrazin as Frankenstein's creature and Jane Seymore as Polidori's creature.
That kind of head-coming-off awful.

Awful as in, "I don't know if I can watch this ever again but I'm not
turning it off now".

Not a contest, more a spelunking, but mine:

1) Strange Days
2) Robocop (director's cut)
3) Frankenstein: The True Story
4) A Clockwork Orange
5) Greystoke
6) Taxi Driver

--
"Was I even talking to you?"
Paul "Pop-Tard" Popinjay

[brewmaster]

Clockwork Orange is maybe my favorite movie of all time, and Taxi Driver
is right up there. IMO the worst movies every made are anything starring
The Rock. Worst movie I've ever seen would be that one of The Rock and
the ballet dancer daughter. Jesus f'in Christ what a piece of crap.

[Alim Nassor]

I liked "A Clockwork Orange" I'll have to think about worst movies,
usually if they are that bad I don't even remember the title.

Oh, I did buy that Leonardo DiCaprio movie where everything is a
dream. I turned off the DVD player after about a half hour. Didn't
even pack it up to bring home I think it was called "Inception".

[Alim Nassor]

LOL, Don't foget anything with James Belushi, like "Curly Sue". LOL

[VegasJerry]

Movie entertainment differs from books, stage plays and radio, in the fact it's visual. Books become boring in that publishing houses will require writers conform to outline requirements, ie, "Love stories will have the women be young, virgin, blond, no glasses…" et cetera. You'll note the covers have a bare-chested male and a scantly-dressed young woman. Movies aimed at the 18 to 27 age group will have explosions every 10 minutes, and so on.

Your better, more memorable movies have great visuals or a great story. You need good writers or good scenery. John Ford would shoot a lot of his westerns in Monument Valley. Lawrence of Arabia; Out of Africa; Gone With the Wind great scenery. Good stories were Casablanca, The Godfather.

It's all formula and fun. I liked Greystoke too. Turner Classic Movies?

Jerry (writing poorly) 'n Vegas

[otter]

LOL, come to think of it, I didn't make it to the end of that one,
either.

I think the first movie I ever walked out on was "The Night of the
Living Dead". I just didn't think I needed to see any more of that
one, so I got up and left the theatre. I just wasn't enjoying
myself. Texas Chainsaw Massacre was pretty hard to sit through, too,
but I managed.

Clockwork Orange is on the list of my top all-time favorites. I can't
associate that with the word "awful" at all. Taxi Driver, either. I
kinda get what Clave is getting at, but I'd watch those movies again,
anytime. Reservoir Dogs, too. My wife won't watch them, though (but
she likes zombie movies, try to understand that!).

[fffurken]

Agreed. I find it hard to think of 5 bad movies simply because I'm not
sure I've ever sat through that many!

Although to list my *top* 5 would probably be at least as troublesome.
I've just gotten used to blurting out "Fargo"! when asked what my
favourite movie is. Funnily enough, just a while back a friend of mine
who was looking to download a movie asked me for a recommendation and
I blurted out "Fargo" and then after watching, suitably impressed, he
asked me for another recommendation about two weeks later and I was
stumped! He'd probably already seen "Jaws".

Anyway, "Species"! Now there's a shit movie I can think of which I sat
through. For whatever strange, compelling reason.

[Schmedley]

Robocop os a real guilty pleasure of mine. I saw Taxi Drive in its
original release on (the old) Times Square in NYC. Emerging from the
theatre in that chaos and seeing multiple Checker cabs was pretty
unsettling.

I recently saw, for the first time, Heaven's Gate, from the early
eighties. Super presumptuous, really beautifully shot, and totally
incomprehensible. There is a sequence at the end during the Big Battle,
which is alternately shot in midrange shots and long range panavison style
shots. In the long range stuff, you cannot see anything but dust, then a
switch to see one or another character eat a bullet. This movie is worth
the investment, if only to see how such a large project can go off the
rails. But be prepared, it is well over three hours long. And the back
stories of the location shoot are hilarious. This movie is really, really
AWFUL.

[Clave]

"brewmaster" <a1...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Feb 10 2013 2:41 AM, Clave wrote:
>
>> Just got done watching "Greystoke" -- a fabulously beautiful, classic
>> movie,
>> well produced, costumed, acted and in every way just god-damned amazing.
>> It's also distinguished by its overwhelming number of sheer heartbreaking
>> moments, unredeemed by anything. It's a beautiful, awful movie that will
>> haunt anyone who sees it.
>>
>> I'm reminded of the TV-produced version of Frankenstein with Michael
>> Sarrazin as Frankenstein's creature and Jane Seymore as Polidori's
>> creature.
>> That kind of head-coming-off awful.
>>
>> Awful as in, "I don't know if I can watch this ever again but I'm not
>> turning it off now".
>>
>> Not a contest, more a spelunking, but mine:
>>
>> 1) Strange Days
>> 2) Robocop (director's cut)
>> 3) Frankenstein: The True Story
>> 4) A Clockwork Orange
>> 5) Greystoke
>> 6) Taxi Driver
>>
>
> Clockwork Orange

Damn, how could I have left that one out? A truly great movie I don't ever
want to watch again.

Jim

[mary in vegas]

On Feb 10 2013 2:41 AM, Clave wrote:

many years ago we went to the movies and saw...'the cook, the thief his
wife and her lover'.

after 10 mins my hubby says 'this is the most awful movie'...let's leave.
i say.....but we bought POPCORN!! hehe...
mary in vegas

[brewmaster]

You didn't leave it out, it is right there on your list. I can watch it
any time though, maybe I'll watchit tonight.

[brewmaster]

I watched that a year or so ago at the recommendation of some here on rgp,
and I found it to be a truly horrible movie.

Another horrible movie is Hunger Games. Why in hell does anybody want to
see a movie about kids killing other kids?

[Clave]

"mary in vegas" <mar...@cox.net> wrote in message
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Quite worthy. Helen Mirren is an amazing talent. It reminded me of
"Irreversible", which also belongs on the list.

Jim

[Clave]

"brewmaster" <a1...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message

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Damn -- so it is. This cold has knocked me senseless.

Jim

[Follow]

The worst movie I've ever seen was Peter Jackson's first attempt at
directing. It's called "Dead Alive," and it is the strangest, most
grotesque zombie movie ever made with a plot bordering on
incomprehensible. The entire movie just challenges you to keep watching.
It's badly written, and badly acted, but then you have the gross out
factor which tries desperately to trump the last gross out exponentially.

I've watched some horribly disgusting shit, but this movie unsettled me.



Follow :)

[Will in New Haven]

Not that it took much.

--
Will in New Haven

[Will in New Haven]

I wouldn't bother watching the others again, and I never finished some
of them, but "A Clockwork Orange" is a great film, really better than
the book, And "Taxi Driver" has its moments.

--
Will in New Haven

"If once a man indulges himself in Murder, very soon he comes
to think little of Robbing, and from Robbing he comes next to
Drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to Incivility and
Procrastination." T. De Quincy (1785-1859) "Murder Considered As One
of the Fine Arts"

[Clave]

"Will in New Haven" <bill....@taylorandfrancis.com> wrote in message
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I wondered who, and I'm not surprised.

Jim

[Will in New Haven]

"Fargo" is a great movie. Of course, I wouldn't watch it now but I
will when there isn't sn*w all over the place. I thought "Jaws" was ok
but I never found it compelling. I guess "Streets of Fire" might be a
guilty pleasure of mine except I don't accept the judgment of the
critics and consider it a great film.

[fffurken]

On Feb 10, 9:53 pm, Will in New Haven

<bill.re...@taylorandfrancis.com> wrote:

> "Fargo" is a great movie. Of course, I wouldn't watch it now but I
> will when there isn't sn*w all over the place.

Fargo is one of those repeat movies for me, it's been a few years but
I think I must've seen it about a half dozen times. In fact, I've used
a quote from it here quite a few times - "I'm not sure I agree 100%
with your detective work there X", X being just another prototypical
RGP moron.

> I thought "Jaws" was ok
> but I never found it compelling. I guess "Streets of Fire" might be a
> guilty pleasure of mine except I don't accept the judgment of the
> critics and consider it a great film.

Jaws is not just OK! That was a great film. Smile you sonofabitch! I
could take a few lines from that movie too actually. Just the other
day (in a work setting) I said "I think we're going to need a bigger
boat" and some whippersnapper just looked at me like he didn't know
what the fuck I was talking about. Everyone knows what that means, it
means something is unfit for a purpose. Jee-sus, kids these days I
tell ya.

[Alim Nassor]

Fargo was a riot. I loved it. Reservoir Dogs was great, but I'll be
ok if i never see it again. Pulp Fiction is one of those where if
it's on, I'm watching.

[Alim Nassor]

"Here's to swimmin with bow legged women."

[mockinjay]

Tell Them Willie Boy Is Here

[BillB]

I note that very few people actually read or understood your question.
It is no coincidence that the few who did were all classy posters
(Jerry, Schmedley, Will).

RGP readers: to ensure the integrity of official RGP polls, please take
the time to fully read the question, then respond to the question asked.
If you don't understand the question, please ask for assistance. Thank you.

My entry would be Requiem for a Dream.

[brewmaster]

Oh, ok, I get it now. I vote for Human Centipede then. I've watched
Requiem a number of times, great movie.

[Clave]

"brewmaster" <a1...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message

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I've heard too much about Human Centipede to ever watch it in the first
place.

Jim

[datty oh]

> I've watched Requiem a number of times, great movie.

Ellen Burstyn was the PERFECT choice for that movie.

[datty oh]

>"Poll: Most Awful Movies"

Suspiria (1977).

(In all fairness, the rented-video version I saw had everyone speaking
english. The American actors spoke English (Jessica Harper, Joan Bennett),
and the other 50 Italian actors all had their parts overdubbed in english.
Don't you hate that? They did that with Das Boot and destroyed it. Luckily
I saw it at the theater with subtitles.)

[brattt]

On Feb 10 2013 4:41 AM, Clave wrote:

> Just got done watching "Greystoke" -- a fabulously beautiful, classic movie,
> well produced, costumed, acted and in every way just god-damned amazing.
> It's also distinguished by its overwhelming number of sheer heartbreaking
> moments, unredeemed by anything. It's a beautiful, awful movie that will
> haunt anyone who sees it.
>
> I'm reminded of the TV-produced version of Frankenstein with Michael
> Sarrazin as Frankenstein's creature and Jane Seymore as Polidori's creature.
> That kind of head-coming-off awful.
>
> Awful as in, "I don't know if I can watch this ever again but I'm not
> turning it off now".
>
> Not a contest, more a spelunking, but mine:
>
> 1) Strange Days
> 2) Robocop (director's cut)
> 3) Frankenstein: The True Story
> 4) A Clockwork Orange
> 5) Greystoke
> 6) Taxi Driver
>

> --
> "Was I even talking to you?"
> Paul "Pop-Tard" Popinjay

Loved Greystoke and have watched it again. I can't think of a single
movie I have forced myself to watch either all the way through (I've
walked out on a couple - Reds and AI come to mind) - or a second time.


Makes no sense to me.


---------------------------------------------------------
On Jan 24 2013 3:55 PM, VegasJerry wrote: That why the President and I
support the Second Amendment allowing a person to have a handgun in their
home.

On Dec. 18, 2012 | 2:03 AM, VegasJerry wrote:
To the editor:
I have been in the military, I've been a policeman, I have a concealed
weapon permit and I've carried a firearm for 40 years. As a result of
Friday's Connecticut school shooting, I am now willing to give up my guns
and rescind the Second Amendment to our Constitution.

[poopiejay]

On Feb 10 2013 5:41 AM, Clave wrote:

> Just got done watching "Greystoke" -- a fabulously beautiful, classic movie,
> well produced, costumed, acted and in every way just god-damned amazing.
> It's also distinguished by its overwhelming number of sheer heartbreaking
> moments, unredeemed by anything. It's a beautiful, awful movie that will
> haunt anyone who sees it.
>
> I'm reminded of the TV-produced version of Frankenstein with Michael
> Sarrazin as Frankenstein's creature and Jane Seymore as Polidori's creature.
> That kind of head-coming-off awful.
>
> Awful as in, "I don't know if I can watch this ever again but I'm not
> turning it off now".
>
> Not a contest, more a spelunking, but mine:
>
> 1) Strange Days
> 2) Robocop (director's cut)
> 3) Frankenstein: The True Story
> 4) A Clockwork Orange
> 5) Greystoke
> 6) Taxi Driver
>
> --
> "Was I even talking to you?"
> Paul "Pop-Tard" Popinjay

i forced myself to watch 'lawrence of arabia' all the way thru. it was so
boring watching that guy ride his camel back and forth all over hell.
(btw, it was filmed in spain).

but, some of my favorite movies are mentioned here. i loved 'night of the
living dead' and the original "texas chainsaw massacre" and 'taxi
driver'. i also have a weakness for stoner movies.....'smiley face'
cracks me up and so does 'harold and kumar go to whitecastle'......i love
the scene where freakshow picks them up and takes them home.

[brewmaster]

Dazed and Confused
The Stoned Age

[VegasJerry]

Well, it was also filmed in Jordan and Morocco. That's were all the great scenery was. The story followed the book vary closely. It's just that the book was really tough to get through. "The Seven pillars of Wisdom." On the list of greatest movies of all time.

I've never watched one of those werewolves' movies; I can only presume they're as bad as the trailers indicate.

Jerry 'n Vegas

[Travel]

The other night I saw the movie "Marathon Man" again.

I hadn't seen this movie since way back before the era of cable and HDTV. And apparently, upon this recent viewing I noticed, it was before Dustin Hoffman learned to act,too.

"Marathon Man" is one of those movies that you pass-over countless times "for some reason" that you can't quite put your finger on. But, you just don't even think much about that anyway because, in the back of your mind, you're just relieved that it's one that you don't have to make a decision on. Just keep flippin' n' lookin' and forget about that one.

The decision to watch "Marathon Man," this time, seemed to be because it seemed like a challenge all of a sudden...I think. It's one of those movies where you don't know why you don't watch it, and don't know why you do watch it. That's it.

The movie's highly rated, the excellent actor, william Devane, is in it. What's the problem?

Well, the problem is that I remember that the only good scenes in this movie were the William Devane scenes.

(names sp?, whatever)

The great Lawrence Olivia is in it, and Roy Schnieder! Ya but, Lawrence Olivia wasn't Lawrence Olivia anymore in those days, he was playing character parts of old guys with a foreign accent by then. Okay, maybe Roy Shneider is in a lot of "spy scenes" and I just don't remember it that way. There's something about that movie that really sucked, but I just can't remember what.

Okay, fuck it. I'm watching it.

Well, I found out, fast. It was Dustin! Or more to the specific: "Dustin and the "The Girlfriend!"
Good God! was that painful to watch. No wonder I had suffered from a suppressed phobia about this movie. I was just in denial, a blocked-memory of the reason why.

It wasn't just the self-conscious, butt-faced bad acting, it was that it was ALL about "Dustin and the Girlfiend" though the first half of this horrible, fricken movie. It was like a slow poison of Beldonkae-laced substance of some kind oozing into and through your pores with each and every "Dustin-primp" for the camera and "The Girfriend's" eyelash battering: "I love you, Dustin."

GOD! Just shoot me, NOW!

Now, why don't I ever want to watch "The Boys From Brazil," again?

I think Bea Foronia used to work in a phobia ward somewhere. Maybe I'll talk to Bea Foroni, first.

[Tim Norfolk]

That was awful, as was 'The Cooler'. OTOH, I liked 'Taxi Driver' and 'Clockwork Orange' a lot, but wouldn't watch either again.

[Tim Norfolk]

I much preferred 'Red'.

[Pepe Papon]

On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 11:48:37 -0800 (PST), fffurken
<fffu...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Although to list my *top* 5 would probably be at least as troublesome.
>I've just gotten used to blurting out "Fargo"! when asked what my
>favourite movie is. Funnily enough, just a while back a friend of mine
>who was looking to download a movie asked me for a recommendation and
>I blurted out "Fargo" and then after watching, suitably impressed, he
>asked me for another recommendation about two weeks later and I was
>stumped! He'd probably already seen "Jaws".

"Fargo" is always one of the first ones that comes to mind in these
Top 5 list discussions. Another one is "Slingblade". And "The Full
Monty".

[Pepe Papon]

On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 02:41:11 -0800, "Clave"
<ChrisC...@TheMonastery.com> wrote:

>Just got done watching "Greystoke" -- a fabulously beautiful, classic movie,
>well produced, costumed, acted and in every way just god-damned amazing.
>It's also distinguished by its overwhelming number of sheer heartbreaking
>moments, unredeemed by anything. It's a beautiful, awful movie that will
>haunt anyone who sees it.
>
>I'm reminded of the TV-produced version of Frankenstein with Michael
>Sarrazin as Frankenstein's creature and Jane Seymore as Polidori's creature.
>That kind of head-coming-off awful.
>
>Awful as in, "I don't know if I can watch this ever again but I'm not
>turning it off now".
>
>Not a contest, more a spelunking, but mine:
>
>1) Strange Days
>2) Robocop (director's cut)
>3) Frankenstein: The True Story
>4) A Clockwork Orange
>5) Greystoke
>6) Taxi Driver

I don't know if it reaches the level of greatness as films on your
list, but the one that comes to mind is "Leaving Las Vegas".

[Clave]

"Pepe Papon" <hitme...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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Absolutely. And "Barfly" for similar reasons.

Jim

[Mossingen]

"Travel" <trave...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I think you're a little rough on Marathon Man. Any movie with some
dentistry-torture isn't all that bad. The 60s-70s were just a deadzone of
horrible, horrible filmmaking for the most part. I like Three Days of the
Condor, and the Godfathers, but the directors back then just sucked ass for
the most part.

[Mossingen]

"Alim Nassor" <alimn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Feb 10, 4:41 am, "Clave" <ChrisClav...@TheMonastery.com> wrote:
>> Just got done watching "Greystoke" -- a fabulously beautiful, classic
>> movie,
>> well produced, costumed, acted and in every way just god-damned amazing.
>> It's also distinguished by its overwhelming number of sheer heartbreaking
>> moments, unredeemed by anything. It's a beautiful, awful movie that will
>> haunt anyone who sees it.
>>
>> I'm reminded of the TV-produced version of Frankenstein with Michael
>> Sarrazin as Frankenstein's creature and Jane Seymore as Polidori's
>> creature.
>> That kind of head-coming-off awful.
>>
>> Awful as in, "I don't know if I can watch this ever again but I'm not
>> turning it off now".
>>
>> Not a contest, more a spelunking, but mine:
>>
>> 1) Strange Days
>> 2) Robocop (director's cut)
>> 3) Frankenstein: The True Story
>> 4) A Clockwork Orange
>> 5) Greystoke
>> 6) Taxi Driver
>>

>> --
>> "Was I even talking to you?"
>> Paul "Pop-Tard" Popinjay
>

> I liked "A Clockwork Orange" I'll have to think about worst movies,
> usually if they are that bad I don't even remember the title.
>
> Oh, I did buy that Leonardo DiCaprio movie where everything is a
> dream. I turned off the DVD player after about a half hour. Didn't
> even pack it up to bring home I think it was called "Inception".

Good lord, man. Inception was one of the most original and inventive movies
of the last ten years.
>

[Mossingen]

"mary in vegas" <mar...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> On Feb 10 2013 2:41 AM, Clave wrote:
>
>> Just got done watching "Greystoke" -- a fabulously beautiful, classic
>> movie,
>> well produced, costumed, acted and in every way just god-damned amazing.
>> It's also distinguished by its overwhelming number of sheer heartbreaking
>> moments, unredeemed by anything. It's a beautiful, awful movie that will
>> haunt anyone who sees it.
>>
>> I'm reminded of the TV-produced version of Frankenstein with Michael
>> Sarrazin as Frankenstein's creature and Jane Seymore as Polidori's
>> creature.
>> That kind of head-coming-off awful.
>>
>> Awful as in, "I don't know if I can watch this ever again but I'm not
>> turning it off now".
>>
>> Not a contest, more a spelunking, but mine:
>>
>> 1) Strange Days
>> 2) Robocop (director's cut)
>> 3) Frankenstein: The True Story
>> 4) A Clockwork Orange
>> 5) Greystoke
>> 6) Taxi Driver
>>
>> --
>> "Was I even talking to you?"
>> Paul "Pop-Tard" Popinjay
>

> many years ago we went to the movies and saw...'the cook, the thief his
> wife and her lover'.
>
> after 10 mins my hubby says 'this is the most awful movie'...let's leave.
> i say.....but we bought POPCORN!! hehe...

> mary in vegas



I thought that movie was OK, although I didn't see it at the theater. One
of the first NC-17 movies if I recall.

[Clave]

"Mossingen" <jhan...@cox.net> wrote in message
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Concur with all of that -- I could watch any of those movies more than once
again.

Jim

[Tad Perry]

Clave wrote:
> Just got done watching "Greystoke" -- a fabulously beautiful, classic
> movie, well produced, costumed, acted and in every way just
> god-damned amazing. It's also distinguished by its overwhelming
> number of sheer heartbreaking moments, unredeemed by anything. It's
> a beautiful, awful movie that will haunt anyone who sees it.
>
> I'm reminded of the TV-produced version of Frankenstein with Michael
> Sarrazin as Frankenstein's creature and Jane Seymore as Polidori's
> creature. That kind of head-coming-off awful.
>
> Awful as in, "I don't know if I can watch this ever again but I'm not
> turning it off now".
>
> Not a contest, more a spelunking, but mine:
>
> 1) Strange Days
> 2) Robocop (director's cut)
> 3) Frankenstein: The True Story
> 4) A Clockwork Orange
> 5) Greystoke
> 6) Taxi Driver

I've waited and waited to see if someone would mention this one, but no one
has:

Dune

Not only was it awful in exactly the way you describe, I remember reading
the book and loving it.
I remember that it was in the works to be a movie for a decade or more
before it was finally made.
I remember waiting and waiting for it to finally hit theaters.
When it finally did, I went and saw it the first night.
I loved Star Wars and I thought Dune could potentially be great.
Man, did it suck.
Then, for some unknown reason, I watched it again a few weeks ago.
It's like a car accident you can't turn away from.

tvp

[Clave]

"Tad Perry" <tadp...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:kfcugu$cc7$1...@dont-email.me...

> Clave wrote:
>> Just got done watching "Greystoke" -- a fabulously beautiful, classic
>> movie, well produced, costumed, acted and in every way just
>> god-damned amazing. It's also distinguished by its overwhelming
>> number of sheer heartbreaking moments, unredeemed by anything. It's
>> a beautiful, awful movie that will haunt anyone who sees it.
>>
>> I'm reminded of the TV-produced version of Frankenstein with Michael
>> Sarrazin as Frankenstein's creature and Jane Seymore as Polidori's
>> creature. That kind of head-coming-off awful.
>>
>> Awful as in, "I don't know if I can watch this ever again but I'm not
>> turning it off now".
>>
>> Not a contest, more a spelunking, but mine:
>>
>> 1) Strange Days
>> 2) Robocop (director's cut)
>> 3) Frankenstein: The True Story
>> 4) A Clockwork Orange
>> 5) Greystoke
>> 6) Taxi Driver
>
> I've waited and waited to see if someone would mention this one, but no
> one has:
>
> Dune

Dude, that was indeed awful, but it was mostly awful in a whole lot of
ordinary ways. It's not that I don't want to watch it again because the
content is violently or emotionally awful, I don't want to watch it again
because it's just a horrible fucking movie. "The Postman" horrible.
"Waterworld" horrible. "North" horrible. "Heaven's Gate" horrible.
"Battlefield Earth" horrible.

Jim

[Tim Norfolk]

The one that really depressed me in the sci-fi genre was 'Starship Troopers'

[Pepe Papon]

We could put ":Looking for Mr. Goodbar" in the same category.

[Travel A]

Hankins wrote:

"I think you're a little rough on Marathon Man. Any movie with some
dentistry-torture isn't all that bad. The 60s-70s were just a deadzone
of horrible, horrible filmmaking for the most part. I like Three Days of
the Condor, and the Godfathers, but the directors back then just sucked
ass for the most part."

I wrote:
Yes, I have "Three Days Of The Condor" on the list on the Android app:
"Prime Time" (which tracks available movies-sources, ect.; it'll track
whether a movie is on Netflix, HBO, or other TV/cable or internet movie
providers).

I remember that that great ending-scene with Max Von Sydow was a
highlight of "Three Days Of The Condor."

Another movie that I'm trying to find is "El Cid." Haven't seen that one
around for as long as I can remember.

One other "hard to find" movie that I'd like to find is "The Duelists"
with Harvey Keitel and Keith Carridine (Wild Bill Hitchcock in
"Deadwood;" no relation to Alfred).

Also, I don't consider channels that have commercials every 15 minutes
like, TNT, USA or TBS, etc., as a source: if a movie is on one of those
commercial-channels, I won't watch it there. Actually, these days, if it
isn't uncut/commercial free and in HD/Dolby, I'll hold-off until it is.

[Mossingen]

"Tim Norfolk" <tims...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:34c0d94d-a337-4a8e...@googlegroups.com...

Ding ding ding! We have a winner! LOL!

Starship Troopers has got to be at the top of the list of truly horrible
movies that you still watch. It suckers me in every time.

[Mossingen]

"Travel A" <nin...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:12064-51...@baytvnwsxa001.msntv.msn.com...

I recall hearing an anecdotal story about Hoffman and Olivier from the movie
Marathon Man, but now I think it might be an Urban Myth. The story goes
that the young Hoffman had a scene where his character had been up all night
and had to look ragged. Hoffman, the actor, stayed up all night to mimic
the effect so the scene would be realistic. He told Olivier his technique,
thinking the older actor would be impressed. Olivier supposedly responded,
"Dustin, my boy, why didn't you just *act* like you've been up all night?"
I heard that many years ago, now I think it's of dubious validity, but still
a neat story.

[Will in New Haven]

On Feb 12, 1:24 pm, "Mossingen" <jhanki...@cox.net> wrote:
> "Tim Norfolk" <timsn...@aol.com> wrote in message

>
> news:34c0d94d-a337-4a8e...@googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Tuesday, February 12, 2013 3:49:50 AM UTC-5, Clave wrote:

> >> "Tad Perry" <tadpe...@comcast.net> wrote in message

I watched part of it once. I remember when Harlan Ellison said that it
was _too late_ to do a film of Troopers because "Aliens" was as close
as you could come. Now Aliens doesn't have any of the concepts or
characters that made Troopers such a great book but it did have the
type of action scenes that would have been needed for the film.

And the film that they finally made and called SsT was so bizzarely
bad that I guess Ellison, asshole that he can be, was right.

I don't have any truly horrible movies that I still watch. I don't
watch movies I don't like.

--
Will in New Haven

[Alim Nassor]

Dune was AWFUL. Like you, Ioved the books.

[Will in New Haven]

The first book was ok to good. I usually find myself dealing with
people who like it more than I do but I like it ok. The subsequent
books are awful. The film is terrible.

[fffurken]

On Feb 12, 5:13 am, Pepe Papon <hitmeis...@mindspring.com> wrote:

> I don't know if it reaches the level of greatness as films on your
> list, but the one that comes to mind is "Leaving Las Vegas".

Yeah, that's a really good film. Funnily enough it doesn't always
spring to mind in my top ten list like perhaps it should. Actually,
maybe it fits in more with the spirit of Clave's original question.
It's not exactly always easy to watch and it certainly doesn't have a
happy ending.

I was a relatively young man when I first watched that film and I
remember my girlfriend (at the time) with a mixture of rueful and
mischief, remarking how Cage's character reminded her of me.

Of course, I'm sure it had nothing to do with my drinking, it was that
Cage's character in that film had the same name as I have.

In case you can't remember - Hi, my name's Ben, nice to meet ya. Good
Hebrew name that huh.

[Dutch]

Another great performance by Cage was in "Adaptation" where he plays
twin brothers. Excellent film. All that talent, too bad that his career
has descended into making cheap CGI garbage like Ghost Rider.

Hah, he's Francis Ford Coppola's nephew, who knew? Holy shit, what an
interesting BIO http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000115/bio

"Proposed to Patricia Arquette on the day he met her in the early 1980s.
Arquette thought he was a bit strange but played along with his antics
by creating a list of things Cage would have to fulfill to win her. When
he started to work his way through the list, Arquette got scared and
avoided him. They met again many years later and later went on to marry."

[fffurken]

On Feb 12, 10:50 pm, Dutch <n...@email.com> wrote:

> Another great performance by Cage was in "Adaptation" where he plays
> twin brothers. Excellent film. All that talent, too bad that his career
> has descended into making cheap CGI garbage like Ghost Rider.

That was the worst thing about "Leaving Las Vegas" for me. After that
film all of a sudden Cage gets this ten, or twenty million dollar
price tag and then all they do with him afterwards is mostly make
Godawful action movies and the like.

I remember films beforehand like "Raising Arizona", that was a great
film starring Cage. Seems to me sometimes that the best thing you can
do to spoil a good actor is give him an Oscar.

[Follow]

On Feb 12 2013 11:24 AM, Mossingen wrote:

> > The one that really depressed me in the sci-fi genre was 'Starship
> > Troopers'
>
>
>
> Ding ding ding! We have a winner! LOL!
>
> Starship Troopers has got to be at the top of the list of truly horrible
> movies that you still watch. It suckers me in every time.

Starship Troopers is definitely a good entry to that, but I disagree that
it wins the category. In the "so bad, it's good and I keep watching it"
category, Sci-Fi Edition, the winner is "The 5th Element" by a mile. My
opinion anyway.



Follow :)

[Beldin the Sorcerer]

Will in New Haven wrote:
> I watched part of it once. I remember when Harlan Ellison said that it
> was _too late_ to do a film of Troopers because "Aliens" was as close
> as you could come. Now Aliens doesn't have any of the concepts or
> characters that made Troopers such a great book but it did have the
> type of action scenes that would have been needed for the film.
>
> And the film that they finally made and called SsT was so bizzarely
> bad that I guess Ellison, asshole that he can be, was right.

Four words
Dina Myer. Bare chested

[Beldin the Sorcerer]

Tim Norfolk wrote:
>
> The one that really depressed me in the sci-fi genre was 'Starship
> Troopers'

4 words.
Dina Myer. bare chested

[Tim Norfolk]

The SyFy channel miniseries was much better.

[Tim Norfolk]

Flat chested.

[Beldin the Sorcerer]

Hot redhead with well shaped breasts. bigger is not always better

[Tad Perry]

What I would say about it is: It's so bad that you don't think to try
watching it. I agree there. But it just happened to start as I was passing
by it, and once I started watching the first scene, I couldn't believe it,
but I watched the entire thing.

tvp

[zardoz]

On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 01:33:17 -0600, "Mossingen" <jhan...@cox.net>
wrote:

I loved it - directed by the great Peter Greenaway.

[chandler]

On Feb 10 2013 9:26 AM, Alim Nassor wrote:


>
> LOL, Don't foget anything with James Belushi, like "Curly Sue". LOL

"Thief." The exception that proves the rule. A Michael Mann movie with
James Caan, Tuesday Weld, Jim Belushi and Willie Nelson. Farina in a
small role. Funky cast, but it works. Thumbs up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keET6waBJHk

Chandler

[chandler]

On Feb 10 2013 5:41 AM, Clave wrote:


>
> Awful as in, "I don't know if I can watch this ever again but I'm not
> turning it off now".
>

"The Road"

Chandler

[Travel A]

Funny that Nicholas Cage was mentioned in a critical way. It seems the
audiences generally like his movies a whole lot better than the critics:
check-out some of the dramatic "swings" in the Ratings on Rotten
Tomatoes between the critics and the peanut gallery. The critics will
have a particular movie, say, "The Rock" or "Con Air" rated about 60%,
and the regular people will have it rated around 76%.

I get a kick outta Nicholas Cage, and have always been a big fan. He's
actually a great American actor. I'm always puzzeled by the
"professional critics" ratings of Nicholas Cage movies, when my view is
that I found those same, various movies, very entertaining.
They ("the critics") seem to hold Nicholas Cage to a higher standard
than most actors, by just rating on the "was it technically a good
movie" aspects, and ignoring the "was it an enjoyable movie, anyway,"
aspects.

Nicholas Cage, since making "Leaving Las Vegas," has made some 44
movies; an amazing number in just a single year's time: 4 movies in
2007; 4 movies in 2009; 5 movies in 2011, and will make 4+ movies in
2013 (counting movies that are in pre and post-production).

The thing is, Nicholas Cage just plain makes a lot of movies, and they
can also be quite diverse in character. Kind of like Michal Caine, where
he couldn't care less about what any particular movie would "do to his
career." Similarly, they both just like to work, period, and they're
both well accomplished enough and have enough good will built-up that
even a"Wicker Man" flop won't make a damn bit of difference to their
audiences: the viewing public will just go-see their next movie,
regardless. Plus, these lesser, or "fill-in" movies make money.

Nicholas Cage has the ability to make a "great one" at any time. It
depends on the script. No great scripts: take what's out there.

A certain, Popinjay, posted about a remake of the past great James Cann
movie: "The Gambler" (1974). Nicholas Cage would kill that part.

"Matchstick Men," Face Off," "Lord of War": all good movies made in
between "other movies." And some of the other movies ("Snake Eyes"
that's the Atlantic City one; "National Treasure" ) were pretty good.

The thing is, I liked all the "other-other ones," like the Ghost Rider
movies.

A good example: the movie "Next." In this story, Nicholas Cage plays a
Vegas Magician (I mean, ya gutta like it, right there) who can see (I
think it was), 5 seconds into the future, and can act upon this and
change what was to come if he hadn't acted upon it. Julianne Moore was
even in it, and I STILL liked it (no, she didn't play his dog). I
thought this was a terrific movie (I'd give it a 70+%), but the Rotten
Tomatoes critics rated it at 59%.

That's my point.

[VegasJerry]

Nicholas Cage works out at the same club I play racquetball. In the locker-room I heard him say, "…. they hire me; I act; I cash the check…."

Jerry

[Alim Nassor]

The thing that ruined that movie was the snivelling little shit of a
kid whining "poppa, poppa" over and over and over. i was rooting for
the cannibals to have some young long pork.

[chandler]

Bet you like the kid in "Walking Dead" a lot better;-) There's a tough
little bastard.

I thought "The Road" was a decent movie. I just couldn't watch it again.
Too depressing. Too real. I thought that's what we were going for,
though in a list that puts Greystoke and Clockwork Orange in the same
column it's hard to tell. The list of movies I dislike or wouldn't even
bother to give a shot is too long.

Chandler

[Alim Nassor]

Carl is one tough mother. hell he shot his own mother in the head.

[otter]

On Feb 10, 4:41 am, "Clave" <ChrisClav...@TheMonastery.com> wrote:
> Just got done watching "Greystoke" -- a fabulously beautiful, classic movie,
> well produced, costumed, acted and in every way just god-damned amazing.
> It's also distinguished by its overwhelming number of sheer heartbreaking
> moments, unredeemed by anything.  It's a beautiful, awful movie that will
> haunt anyone who sees it.
>
> I'm reminded of the TV-produced version of Frankenstein with Michael
> Sarrazin as Frankenstein's creature and Jane Seymore as Polidori's creature.
> That kind of head-coming-off awful.
>

> Awful as in, "I don't know if I can watch this ever again but I'm not
> turning it off now".
>

I watched Barry Lyndon the other night, and immediately thought of
this thread. Incredible movie, but a real challenge to enjoy. I've
heard it was the first novel without a hero.

[brewmaster]

I thought of a couple more (for me at least):

Shindler's List
Sophie's Choice

[mo_ntresor]

On Feb 12 2013 12:31 AM, Mossingen wrote:

> Good lord, man. Inception was one of the most original and inventive movies
> of the last ten years.

i really loved the first hour or so, after that it dragged. if you like
"inventive" and "original", this year's oscar nominees "beasts of the
southern wild" and "moonrise kingdom" were well worth a watch. two
documentaries that received no recognition but were impossible to peel
your offs off were "bully" and "queen of versailles".

mo_ntresor

[brewmaster]

LOL I haven't even heard of any of those 4 movies.

[mo_ntresor]

On Feb 26 2013 12:03 PM, brewmaster wrote:

> LOL I haven't even heard of any of those 4 movies.

if you have to see any of the above, watch "bully" (i guess it was 2011):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1g9RV9OKhg

the cruelty of kids is really tough to watch, but the abject ignorance and
incompetence of school administrators, teachers, and even law enforcement
is something to behold.

a close second was "queen of versailles"

http://www.magpictures.com/thequeenofversailles/

it was meant to be an exploration of excess, but the family fortune
teeters and crumbles during filming. great insight into the risk of
leverage, business, and pitifully stupid women.

mo_ntresor