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Schmedley  
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 More options Dec 25 2006, 11:12 pm
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From: "Schmedley" <schmege...@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 23:12:44 -0500
Local: Mon, Dec 25 2006 11:12 pm
Subject: Delaware "Table" Games
From Sunday's Phila Inquirer:

http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/living/columnists/bill_ordine/162837...

Gaming Traveler | Hold 'em, fold 'em, electronicallyBy Bill Ordine
For The Inquirer
Ever have the urge to yell at a casino dealer?

The cards are running lousy and, sure, you know it's not the fault of the
person flipping the cards, but you'd still like to let off a little steam.
Of course, that's not too classy - and you might even get kicked out.

At the new table games in Delaware, you'd probably get away with a little
vitriol. After all, there's no insulting an image on a TV screen.

The virtual table games debuted in the fall at three racetrack casinos, or
racinos, to expand gambling offerings without introducing dealers. Gambling
at Delaware Park, Dover Downs and Harrington Raceway had been limited to
thoroughbred or harness racing, plus slot machines in the casinos.

The new virtual table games - blackjack, Let It Ride, three-card poker and
baccarat - have a filmed dealer instead of the real thing, virtual cards
that are electronic images, and table-top buttons that players use to make
decisions. So far, the games have been exceptionally popular.

"There's no question that this machine has created a buzz," said Stephen
Keener, assistant vice president of slot operations at Dover Downs. "It's
generated a lot of excitement and not just at our property. Especially at a
racino, it adds another level of entertainment. People enjoy the camaraderie
that you get at a table game."

The state approved the games to help compete with Atlantic City's full-blown
casino resorts and Pennsylvania's slots casinos, which are beginning to come
online. Some of Pennsylvania's casinos could have similar tables pending
approval by the state Gaming Control Board, a spokesman said.

Each virtual table game has five betting positions with a large-screen TV
monitor as the focal point. A filmed dealer welcomes players, directs
players to make bets, appears to deal cards, totals the players' hands, and
appears to collect or pay off bets. The dealers even change from time to
time.

Players insert money in the machines to get started, place their wagers as
they would at a slot machine and make decisions by pressing buttons.

In blackjack, for example, players decide to hit, stand, double their bet,
split cards of the same rank, buy insurance and, where allowed, elect to
surrender (give up half a bet when the prospects of playing out the hand are
gloomy). A virtual six-deck shoe is reshuffled after two-thirds of the cards
are dealt.

The games have been lucrative, with net proceeds statewide of about $300 per
betting position per day - about 40 to 50 percent more than the average slot
machine.

The virtual games also are used in California, Florida, Arizona, and Nassau
in the Bahamas, but not in New Jersey or Nevada.

Just about any game, such as the table version of Texas Hold 'em, can be
adapted to the electronic format. The virtual games are manufactured by
Shuffle Master, a Nevada company that began with the invention of a simple
card-shuffling machine.

"What we are doing, such as the table version of Texas Hold 'em, can be
adapted to the electronic format. The virtual games are manufactured by
Shuffle Master, a Nevada company that began with the invention of a simple
card-shuffling machine.

"What we are doing here is harnessing some new style of technology to add
entertainment to the gaming experience," said Mark Yoseloff, chairman and
chief executive officer of Shuffle Master.

"It is not a live game, clearly, and yet it's not a slot machine, which is
not at all a social experience," Yoseloff said. "In some sense, we have
created a new gaming genre that appeals to a broad range of players."

This first generation of virtual table games is likely to be improved, with
more interaction between the dealer and players and by adding celebrities to
the roster of attractive, albeit anonymous, dealers, he added.

For casinos, these games are cheaper than paying dealers. For players, the
table limits can be more moderate (in Delaware, they range from $5 to $100)
because of the lower operating costs. There's less of an intimidation factor
and no tipping, and the game can move quite a bit faster.


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A Man Beaten by Jacks  
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 More options Dec 26 2006, 12:09 am
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From: A Man Beaten by Jacks <nob...@fool.foo>
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 00:09:06 -0500
Local: Tues, Dec 26 2006 12:09 am
Subject: Re: Delaware "Table" Games

On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 23:12:44 -0500, "Schmedley" <schmege...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>From Sunday's Phila Inquirer:
>http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/living/columnists/bill_ordine/162837...

[. . .]

>In blackjack, for example, players decide to hit, stand, double their bet,
>split cards of the same rank, buy insurance and, where allowed, elect to
>surrender (give up half a bet when the prospects of playing out the hand are
>gloomy). A virtual six-deck shoe is reshuffled after two-thirds of the cards
>are dealt.

That sounds like penetration.  I can't imagine that will last long, if it's even
true.

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FellKnight  
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 More options Dec 26 2006, 12:19 am
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From: "FellKnight" <jordandevenp...@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 21:19:39 -0800
Local: Tues, Dec 26 2006 12:19 am
Subject: Re: Delaware "Table" Games
On Dec 25 2006 10:09 PM, A Man Beaten by Jacks wrote:

Um, 1/3 of the shoe (equivalent of 2 whole decks) is not to the counter's
advantage.

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A Man Beaten by Jacks  
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 More options Dec 26 2006, 1:47 am
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From: A Man Beaten by Jacks <nob...@fool.foo>
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 01:47:50 -0500
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Subject: Re: Delaware "Table" Games
On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 21:19:39 -0800, "FellKnight" <jordandevenp...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

It's 2/3, which is four decks.

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FellKnight  
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 More options Dec 26 2006, 11:12 am
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From: "FellKnight" <jordandevenp...@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 08:12:03 -0800
Local: Tues, Dec 26 2006 11:12 am
Subject: Re: Delaware "Table" Games
On Dec 25 2006 11:47 PM, A Man Beaten by Jacks wrote:

> On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 21:19:39 -0800, "FellKnight"

<jordandevenp...@hotmail.com>

Yes, but the decke is reshuffled with 1/3 of the shoe left undealt.
Whereas, in a casino, a 6 deck shoe will usually get down to the last deck
and a half or so.

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tillius  
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 More options Dec 26 2006, 12:43 pm
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From: "tillius" <tillman.stev...@gmail.com>
Date: 26 Dec 2006 09:43:01 -0800
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Subject: Re: Delaware "Table" Games
Perhaps it's not a deep as a reshuffle with only one deck left, but in
AC they rarely get that deep into a shoe.

I've played the tables at Dover Downs a few times and noticed that out
of about 250 shoes, the count only went above +2 or below -2 in 5
separate hands.

That seems pretty odd but I suspect something not entirely random about
the RNG engine used.

On the good side, after observing 250 shoes and playing about 50 of
them, I'm up about $8K.

On Dec 26, 11:12 am, "FellKnight" <jordandevenp...@hotmail.com> wrote:


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astutozo...@cardplayer.com  
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 More options Dec 26 2006, 1:54 pm
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Date: 26 Dec 2006 10:54:27 -0800
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Subject: Re: Delaware "Table" Games
A little behind the times. They (Casinos) already have automatted
constant shufflers that shuffle the whole 6 decks after every hand. In
fact, it keeps shuffling the remaining 5 3/4 decks as you are playing
one hand.


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FellKnight  
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 More options Dec 26 2006, 10:03 pm
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From: "FellKnight" <jordandevenp...@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 19:03:34 -0800
Local: Tues, Dec 26 2006 10:03 pm
Subject: Re: Delaware "Table" Games
On Dec 26 2006 11:54 AM, AstutoZorro wrote:

> A little behind the times. They (Casinos) already have automatted
> constant shufflers that shuffle the whole 6 decks after every hand. In
> fact, it keeps shuffling the remaining 5 3/4 decks as you are playing
> one hand.

In a constant shuffle game, yes.  I was speaking specifically of 6 deck
shoes though.

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