On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 16:26:27 -0700, "bratt" <a890...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>"If you're not a liberal at 20, you have no heart, and if you're not a
>conservative at 40, you have no head."
Winston Churchill never said that, so why have you put it in quotation marks
under his name?
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> On Nov 8 2011 2:11 PM, VegasJerry wrote:
> Jerry (almonst worthless) 'n Vegas
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bratt, if you're right about this, you're right. But could you just
post a clearer link and proof?
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> > On Nov 8 2011 2:11 PM, VegasJerry wrote:
> > Jerry (almonst worthless) 'n Vegas
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> bratt, if you're right about this, you're right. But could you just
> post a clearer link and proof?
> If you do, I'll give you 2 dollars!
> I just don't do donkey work.
I don't care if W said it or not. 1. WC was one of the greatest men in
history (Paul, don't jump in here claiming he was a communist please) and
2. the quote is 100% true, whoever said it.
Again, not what you quoted and different from the other reference.
To be honest, I don't need to see your references to know the quote is
wrong, although in this case, I'll forgive you the misattribution because
you've been misled. The reason I can be certain, is the word "liberal"
(small "L") wasn't used in the American political sense in British English
until the last decade or so. He might have said something similar to your
quote, although there's no record that he did, but if he had, both "Liberal"
and "Conservative" would have been capitalised and the quote would have had
quite a different meaning.
>On Apr 27, 10:06 pm, David Monaghan <monaghand.da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >"If you're not a liberal at 20, you have no heart, and if you're not a
>> >conservative at 40, you have no head."
>> Winston Churchill never said that, so why have you put it in quotation marks
>> under his name?
>Firstly, thank you David. I don't know whether the quote is actual or
>not but I'm playing the odds and I'm going with you.
I appreciate your faith. It's well placed in this instance, I believe.
>Secondly, why do you post so little? You've barely posted in eons on
>the cesspool.
I don't play so much poker nowadays, and truth be told, I haven't made a
profit (even discounting my vaporised FTP bankroll) for a few years, so I
don't feel my poker opinions are as valid as I used to think they were. I
mostly try and stay out of US domestic politic threads, too - who wants to
hear a foreigner's views? - but I like to read them to see which way the
wind blows. And, occasionally, someone expresses a view - usually an opinion
dressed up as fact - that I just can't let pass, which is when I pop up.
On Apr 28, 12:41 am, David Monaghan <monaghand.da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Secondly, why do you post so little? You've barely posted in eons on
> >the cesspool.
> I don't play so much poker nowadays, and truth be told, I haven't made a
> profit (even discounting my vaporised FTP bankroll) for a few years, so I
> don't feel my poker opinions are as valid as I used to think they were.
Poker really isn't such a big deal here Dave, I've been saying that
for years, if years were months.
I feel really compassionate for people who lost money on Full Tilt, I
had thousands there myself, but well before the bust.
> I mostly try and stay out of US domestic politic threads, too - who wants to
> hear a foreigner's views?
I wouldn't have a problem with that!
> but I like to read them to see which way the
> wind blows. And, occasionally, someone expresses a view - usually an opinion
> dressed up as fact - that I just can't let pass, which is when I pop up.
It's your choice DaveM, but at a risk of repeating myself, I'd prefer
to hear your voice more. Plus, there's a lot more on RGP to talk about
than purely American issues. People on RGP are in fact generally, I
think, very accepting of another point of view on just about anything.
Unless you're Canadian.
> > > Yeah, but you're probably smashed at this stage. What is it, like six
> > > in the evening in CA?
> > > I don't give a shit about the quote, here's a quote I half remember
> > > recounted on RGP -
> > > "Not all conservatives are idiots but all idiots are conservative."
> > "Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is
> > true that most stupid people are conservative."
> > -- John Stuart Mill
> John Stuart Mill of he own free will on half a pint of Shandy was
> particularly ill.
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> Brew "part of the 100%" Master
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Plato, they say, could put it away,
Half a pint of whiskey every day...
> On Apr 28, 12:01 am, "brewmaster" <a1...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>> I don't care if W said it or not.
> Yeah, but you're probably smashed at this stage. What is it, like six
> in the evening in CA?
> I don't give a shit about the quote, here's a quote I half remember
> recounted on RGP -
> "Not all conservatives are idiots but all idiots are conservative."
The OP's quote is widely attributed to Churchill (in various forms) but
may not have actually been said by him. Nevertheless, it resonates with
many people because, while oversimplified, it expresses a basic truth
about the human condition.
Your quote, on the other hand, is quite false. Many left-loons are
idiots (and some of them post here).
>> > > Yeah, but you're probably smashed at this stage. What is it, like six
>> > > in the evening in CA?
>> > > I don't give a shit about the quote, here's a quote I half remember
>> > > recounted on RGP -
>> > > "Not all conservatives are idiots but all idiots are conservative."
>> > "Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is
>> > true that most stupid people are conservative."
>> > -- John Stuart Mill
>> John Stuart Mill of he own free will on half a pint of Shandy was
>> particularly ill.
>> --
>> Brew "part of the 100%" Master
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>Plato, they say, could put it away,
>Half a pint of whiskey every day...
Aristotle, Aristotle was a bugger for the bottle,
Hobbes was fond of his dram...
> >> > > Yeah, but you're probably smashed at this stage. What is it, like six
> >> > > in the evening in CA?
> >> > > I don't give a shit about the quote, here's a quote I half remember
> >> > > recounted on RGP -
> >> > > "Not all conservatives are idiots but all idiots are conservative."
> >> > "Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is
> >> > true that most stupid people are conservative."
> >> > -- John Stuart Mill
> >> John Stuart Mill of he own free will on half a pint of Shandy was
> >> particularly ill.
> >> --
> >> Brew "part of the 100%" Master
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> >Plato, they say, could put it away,
> >Half a pint of whiskey every day...
> Aristotle, Aristotle was a bugger for the bottle,
> Hobbes was fond of his dram...
And Rene Descartes was a drunken fart "I drink therefore I am"
> >> > > Yeah, but you're probably smashed at this stage. What is it, like six
> >> > > in the evening in CA?
> >> > > I don't give a shit about the quote, here's a quote I half remember
> >> > > recounted on RGP -
> >> > > "Not all conservatives are idiots but all idiots are conservative."
> >> > "Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is
> >> > true that most stupid people are conservative."
> >> > -- John Stuart Mill
> >> John Stuart Mill of he own free will on half a pint of Shandy was
> >> particularly ill.
> >> --
> >> Brew "part of the 100%" Master
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> >Plato, they say, could put it away,
> >Half a pint of whiskey every day...
> Aristotle, Aristotle was a bugger for the bottle,
> Hobbes was fond of his dram...- Hide quoted text -
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And Rene Descartes was a drunken fart 'I drink, therefore I am'.
> On Apr 28, 2:23 am, "Clave" <clav...@the.monastery.com> wrote:
>> > I don't give a shit about the quote, here's a quote I half remember
>> > recounted on RGP -
>> > "Not all conservatives are idiots but all idiots are conservative."
>> "Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is
>> true that most stupid people are conservative."
>> -- John Stuart Mill
> Thank you Claveasaurus.
> I think I made it reasonably clear that my sloppiness wasn't
> attributal. Unfortunately, I still don't know just who the fuck John
> Stuart Mill is! ;)
He was one boring-ass philospher, but still plenty smart.
>>Secondly, why do you post so little? You've barely posted in eons on
>>the cesspool.
>I don't play so much poker nowadays, and truth be told, I haven't made a
>profit (even discounting my vaporised FTP bankroll) for a few years, so I
>don't feel my poker opinions are as valid as I used to think they were. I
>mostly try and stay out of US domestic politic threads, too - who wants to
>hear a foreigner's views?
I'm interested in anyone's views if they make sense, and yours usually
do.
>> Yeah, but you're probably smashed at this stage. What is it, like six
>> in the evening in CA?
>> I don't give a shit about the quote, here's a quote I half remember
>> recounted on RGP -
>> "Not all conservatives are idiots but all idiots are conservative."
>The OP's quote is widely attributed to Churchill (in various forms) but
>may not have actually been said by him. Nevertheless, it resonates with
>many people because, while oversimplified, it expresses a basic truth
>about the human condition.
It resonates with many conservatives because they desperately want to
believe it.
> On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 19:55:39 -0600, TruthSeeker
> <TruthSee...@nospam.us> wrote:
>> The OP's quote is widely attributed to Churchill (in various forms) but
>> may not have actually been said by him. Nevertheless, it resonates with
>> many people because, while oversimplified, it expresses a basic truth
>> about the human condition.
> It resonates with many conservatives because they desperately want to
> believe it.
Yeah, basic truths are like that. Like the Golden Rule and "Love Thy
Neighbor."
