Obama and the Vampire Congress
Irish Mike
"Meet the Beltway bloodsuckers. They convene in the dead of night, when
most ordinary mortals have left work and let their guard down or are lying
asleep in bed. Pale-faced and insatiable, the nocturnal thieves do their
nefarious business in backrooms and secret chambers. Their primary
victims? Taxpayers, the free market and deliberative democracy.
Democratic leaders have been promising the most ethical, transparent, open
and engaged administration for years. Instead, they have delivered a bleak
and creepy legislative environment that could double as a �Twilight� movie
set.
Skulking Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid rammed the government health
care takeover package through under the cover of darkness before
Thanksgiving and Christmas. House Democratic leaders forbade debate on all
but one amendment not authored by themselves. The Senate Finance Committee
killed a GOP amendment that would have required Demcare to be available
online for 72 hours before the committee voted. Reid and his
Volterra-style henchmen cut last-minute cash-for-cloture deals behind
closed doors.
And now House and Senate Democratic leaders are reportedly preparing to
cut dissenters out of the reconciliation process by bypassing the formal
conference committee.
In Hill parlance, this legislative shortcut is called �ping-ponging.� A
better game analogy: dodgeball. With mounting opposition from both
conservative Republicans and progressive Democrats, President Obama�s
water-carriers must use every trick in the book to speed the final merging
and passage of the bill before the end of the month.
The hypocrisy reeks stronger than rotting garlic. In 2006, House Democrats
asserted that �House-Senate conferences are a critical part of the
deliberative process because they produce the final legislative product
that will become the law of the land.� That same year, Reid railed on the
Senate floor against informal deal-making that circumvented the conference
committee process -- and he attacked the use of manager�s amendments to
avoid public scrutiny:
"Of course, nobody can see the manager�s amendment. It is composed of over
40 amendments. How could anyone vote for a piece of legislation such as
that -- a manager's amendment with 42 separate amendments? Now, these
amendments were not put in a conference committee. People complain about
that. But at least in a conference committee, you have people working
together, sticking things in. � Here, you have one person making a
decision as to what is going to be in the manager�s amendment. There is no
way to know what is in it."
But four years later, it was Reid who snuck his 383-page manager�s
amendment -- stuffed with payoffs, special breaks and concessions on
health care -- into the Senate hopper on the Saturday before Christmas
break. Four years later, it is Reid stifling the open, collaborative
conference committee process he so fiercely championed.
Where�s Barack Obama? As a candidate, he promised repeatedly to broadcast
legislative negotiations on C-SPAN �so that the American people can see
what the choices are� and �so that the public will be part of the
conversation and will see the choices that are being made.� But the most
transparent presidential administration ever is shrugging its shoulders.
On Tuesday, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs pooh-poohed C-SPAN�s
request to allow electronic media coverage of the Demcare negotiations.
Instead, Gibbs thinks Americans should be grateful for what they got last
month: �The Senate did a lot of their voting at 1:00 and 2:00 in the
morning on C-SPAN. � And I think if you watched that debate -- I don't
know -- I wasn't up at 1:00 or 2:00 in the morning for a lot of those
votes, but I think if the American public had watched � you'd have seen
quite a bit of public hearing and public airing.� And if you missed the
middle-of-the-night broadcasts, tough noogies.
Team Obama�s contempt for meaningful transparency has been on display from
Day One. A year ago this month, Obama broke his vaunted open government
pledge with the very first bill he signed into law. On Jan. 29, 2009, the
White House boasted that the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act had been posted
online for review. Except: Obama had already signed it -- in violation of
his �sunlight before signing� pledge to post legislation for public
comment on the White House website five days before he sealed any deal.
From the stimulus to the health care takeover to holiday bailouts for
bankrupt financial behemoths Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, it�s been all
backrooms and blackouts ever since. The Prince of Darkness at 1600
Pennsylvania Ave. is perfectly happy with his Vampire Congress. Wraiths of
a sunshine-evading feather flock together."
Irish Mike
"The problem with socialism is that, sooner or later, you run out of other
people's money."
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hanks
Michelle Malkin is a contributor to Fox news and wrote a revisionist
"history"book saying the internment of Japanese Americans was OK and
Muslims
should be interned the same way.She is a racist, pure and simple.
hanks
Welshman
> Michelle Malkin is a contributor to Fox news and wrote a revisionist
> "history"book saying the internment of Japanese Americans was OK and
> Muslims
> should be interned the same way.She is a racist, pure and simple.
> hanks
I don't know about racist but she sure as hell is a raving lunatic.
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raven1
<ad7...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>By Michelle Malkin
LOL! Got anything by Dick Cheney?
FL Turbo
<ad7...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
Malkin can sure stir up hatred.
She tells the unvarnished truth about the Demo "looters" in Congress,
and all the Libtards truly hate it.
The Demos have instituted a system of Faith Based voting in Congress.
There is no chance for anyone to actually read through the 1,000+
pages in the legislation, they are just called upon to have Faith that
it is the right thing to do at 1AM.
(Didn't their parents ever tell them that nothing good ever happens
after midnight?)
But, for those whose Faith isn't quite strong enough, like Nelson in
Nebraska or Landrieux in Alabama, a big dollop of Pork is enough for
them the strengthen their faith.
"$300,000,000 for Louisiana!! Praise the Lord and pass the ballot."
susan
Very broadminded you are.
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Irish Mike
LOL? Would you care to point out any factual errors in her post? Didn't
think so.
Irish Mike
Obama: "I will not sign any health care bill that adds even a single dime
to the deficit."
CBO: "Mr. President, we have scored the latest version of your health care
bill and have determined that it will add at least $170 billion dollars
to the deficit."
Obama: "Well dollars are OK. I never said any thing about dollars. Just
make sure the bill doesn't include any dimes."
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Irish Mike
The Senate bill is 2,500+ pages, the House bill is 2,000+ pages and the
Republicans were excluded and the Democrats didn't read it. The crooked
deals, like the ones cut in Louisiana, Nebraska and Florida are just the
tip of the ice berg. This monstrosity is also loaded with pork barrel
ear-marks and pay offs. This bill will do nothing to lower health care
costs or address frivolous lawsuits. However, it will raise taxes by $518
billion, increase insurance premiums and cut Medicare benefits to the
elderly by $450 billion. It is a damn disgrace and it's being jammed down
the throats of the American people, even those the majority have clearly,
and repeatedly, said they don't want it.
Irish Mike
Becoming more proud every day, to be one of the 60,000,000 Americans who
did not vote for Obama.
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<...>
> The Senate bill is 2,500+ pages, the House bill is 2,000+ pages and the
> Republicans were excluded...
Oh, boo-fucking-hoo. They're excluded now because they proved that rather
than negotiate in good faith, they're more interested in backstabbing
whiny-ass titty-baby games. I suppose that never occurred to you.
You whine more than anyone I've ever met.
Jim
FL Turbo
<ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> wrote:
>"Irish Mike" <ad7...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
>news:n5vf17x...@recgroups.com...
>
><...>
>
>> The Senate bill is 2,500+ pages, the House bill is 2,000+ pages and the
>> Republicans were excluded...
>
>Oh, boo-fucking-hoo. They're excluded now because they proved that rather
>than negotiate in good faith, they're more interested in backstabbing
>whiny-ass titty-baby games. I suppose that never occurred to you.
>
As if anyone needed any more proof that your snoot is deep in the Demo
KoolAid jug, that should settle it for anyone.
But then if Total Denial makes you sleep better at night, go for it.
funky cold medina
I'll be damned if I don't find her kinda hot sometimes.
If only she wouldn't talk....
:)
Gary Carson
> Interesting - you don't read anything with views other than your own.
>
> Very broadminded you are.
>
Michelle Malkin is insane, her opinions don't differ or agree with
anyone's opinions, her opinions are simply the rants of an insane woman.
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FL Turbo
When you take a lot of flak, you know that you're over the target.
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"She who speaks the truth should keep one foot in the stirrup"
Turkish proverb (allegedly)
ChrisRobin
> Malkin can sure stir up hatred.
>
> She tells the unvarnished truth about the Demo "looters" in Congress,
> and all the Libtards truly hate it.
>
> The Demos have instituted a system of Faith Based voting in Congress.
>
> There is no chance for anyone to actually read through the 1,000+
> pages in the legislation, they are just called upon to have Faith that
> it is the right thing to do at 1AM.
> (Didn't their parents ever tell them that nothing good ever happens
> after midnight?)
>
> But, for those whose Faith isn't quite strong enough, like Nelson in
> Nebraska or Landrieux in Alabama, a big dollop of Pork is enough for
> them the strengthen their faith.
>
> "$300,000,000 for Louisiana!! Praise the Lord and pass the ballot."
You guys are hilarious hypocrites. I mean, you make it impossible for
anyone to take you seriously. I won't defend the Democrats' behavior, but
it's EXACTLY the same playbook used by the Bush team, and none of you
morons so much as uttered a peep of dissent when legislation like the
Patriot Act was rammed down Congress's collective throat in the dead of
night, before it could be read, without any consultation of the opposition
party.
Your memory doesn't extend beyond last week, let alone the last
Administration. Enough of the faux outrage already, you partisan hacks.
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Irish Mike
> On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 19:14:48 -0800 (PST), funky cold medina
> <michael....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Jan 6, 6:26�pm, FL Turbo <noem...@notime.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Malkin can sure stir up hatred.
> >>
> >
> >I'll be damned if I don't find her kinda hot sometimes.
> >
> >If only she wouldn't talk....
> >
> >:)
>
> When you take a lot of flak, you know that you're over the target.
Great line.
Irish Mike
"The problem with socialism is that, sooner or later, you run out of other
people's money."
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Irish Mike
The only problem with the Patriot Act is that it didn't go far enough.
You want to talk about Obama's performance in keeping America safe?
Irish Mike
Where have all the anti-war protesters gone? When Bush was President,
left wing anti-war protesters were staging rallies and marches in major
cities all over the country, and MSNBC covered them in depth. Now that
Obama is President, where have all the anti-war protesters gone?
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Clave
news:tkjak5hoafgik95uf...@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 18:54:51 -0800, "Clave"
> <ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> wrote:
>
>>"Irish Mike" <ad7...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
>>news:n5vf17x...@recgroups.com...
>>
>><...>
>>
>>> The Senate bill is 2,500+ pages, the House bill is 2,000+ pages and the
>>> Republicans were excluded...
>>
>>Oh, boo-fucking-hoo. They're excluded now because they proved that rather
>>than negotiate in good faith, they're more interested in backstabbing
>>whiny-ass titty-baby games. I suppose that never occurred to you.
>>
> As if anyone needed any more proof that your snoot is deep in the Demo
If you can look at recent history and not reach the same conclusion I did,
no one needs further proof that you're stupider than susan *or* Travel.
As if further proof were necessary in the first place...
Jim
La Cosa Nostradamus
> Michelle Malkin is a contributor to Fox news and wrote a revisionist
> "history"book saying the internment of Japanese Americans was OK and
> Muslims
> should be interned the same way.She is a racist, pure and simple.
> hanks
But she is cute
Music
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CBC79A5A43EA115&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL
Dec 21, 2012
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=BEACDF838531C36C&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL
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La Cosa Nostradamus
Now that
> Obama is President, where have all the anti-war protesters gone?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXgMhnI3QOI Note the title
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susan
"Gary Carson" <garyc...@pokercultureblog.com> wrote in message
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> On Jan 6 2010 8:36 PM, susan wrote:
>
>> Interesting - you don't read anything with views other than your own.
>>
>> Very broadminded you are.
>>
>
> Michelle Malkin is insane, her opinions don't differ or agree with
> anyone's opinions, her opinions are simply the rants of an insane woman.
>
Did you read the article? What did she say that was incorrect?
susan
"ChrisRobin" <a9d...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
news:n73g17x...@recgroups.com...
I will admit my memory doesn't include Bush saying a brazillion times that
all the healthcare talks would be on C-Span, and I don't remember the open
and transparent presidency being thrown up so much.
Jerry Sturdivant
"Gary Carson" <garyc...@pokercultureblog.com> wrote in message
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> On Jan 6 2010 8:36 PM, susan wrote:
>
>> Interesting - you don't read anything with views other than your own.
>>
>> Very broadminded you are.
>>
>
> Michelle Malkin is insane, her opinions don't differ or agree with
> anyone's opinions, her opinions are simply the rants of an insane woman.
It's why Mike Cuts and Pastes and Run from her posts.
Jerry Sturdivant
"Irish Mike" <ad7...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
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It went far enough for Bush to violate the Constitution. Then he hid papers
in his father's Presidential Library. Bush has committed treason and that's
the reason he's hiding papers.
Jerry 'n Vegas
raven1
wrote:
>Interesting - you don't read anything with views other than your own.
Where did you get that idea?
susan
"raven1" <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote in message
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Puppytoes
Man, you really need to get your meds ajusted. Bush committed
treason and Obama is the Mesiah ... wow, you can't make this stuff up.
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raven1
wrote:
>Because of your comment?
Noting that neither Michelle Malkin nor Dick Cheney has much
credibility with me is not the same as suggesting that I don't read
opposing views.
Jerry Sturdivant
"Puppytoes" <a7e...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
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Usually people that are ignorant of current affairs -- or unable to address
facts -- disappear because the subject or question is over their head or
they see the error of their ways. You, on the other hand, embarrass yourself
by making dodging, or stupid, replies; and make up positions and statements
for others, just to show everybody how your ignorance. You've succeeded.
Bush HAS hidden papers in his father's library; he HAS violated the
constitution (warrantless searches) and he's responsible for the outing of
Valery Palme. Are you really that cluless?
Jerry 'n Vegas
mo_charles
>
> Noting that neither Michelle Malkin nor Dick Cheney has much
> credibility with me is not the same as suggesting that I don't read
> opposing views.
true. you read them once, disagree, and don't anymore.
mo_charles
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ChrisRobin
> The only problem with the Patriot Act is that it didn't go far enough.
Spoken like a clueless moron who is willing to trade away his freedom for
the illusion of government-coddled security. Long live the Mommy State!
So... where was your outrage when the Patriot Act was rammed through
Congress in the wee hours of the night, without so much as a cursory
examination by legislators? Well?
> You want to talk about Obama's performance in keeping America safe?
Did I say that I did? Don't change the subject, you hypocrite.
ChrisRobin
> I will admit my memory doesn't include Bush saying a brazillion times that
> all the healthcare talks would be on C-Span, and I don't remember the open
> and transparent presidency being thrown up so much.
Sue, I'd wager that your memory doesn't include much of anything, honey.
(Hint: Re-read my post closely. It isn't a defense of Obama, not in the
slightest).
susan
"ChrisRobin" <a9d...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> On Jan 7 2010 8:09 AM, susan wrote:
>
>> I will admit my memory doesn't include Bush saying a brazillion times
>> that
>> all the healthcare talks would be on C-Span, and I don't remember the
>> open
>> and transparent presidency being thrown up so much.
>
> Sue, I'd wager that your memory doesn't include much of anything, honey.
>
> (Hint: Re-read my post closely. It isn't a defense of Obama, not in the
> slightest).
>
You said same play book - to which I responded basically different play
book.
(Hint: Re-read my post closely. It isn't a defense of Bush nor a
condemnation of O - merely pointing out the illogic in your thinking)
ChrisRobin
Non sequitur much?
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mo_charles
> > treason and Obama is the Mesiah ... wow, you can't make this stuff up.
>
> Usually people that are ignorant of current affairs -- or unable to address
> facts -- disappear because the subject or question is over their head or
> they see the error of their ways. You, on the other hand, embarrass yourself
> by making dodging, or stupid, replies; and make up positions and statements
> for others, just to show everybody how your ignorance. You've succeeded.
>
> Bush HAS hidden papers in his father's library; he HAS violated the
> constitution (warrantless searches) and he's responsible for the outing of
> Valery Palme. Are you really that cluless?
he hid his papers in a library? jerry, the best place to hide something
would be in one of many empty corners of your goddamn head.
mo_charles
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Irish Mike
> On Jan 7 2010 8:09 AM, susan wrote:
>
> > I will admit my memory doesn't include Bush saying a brazillion times that
> > all the healthcare talks would be on C-Span, and I don't remember the open
> > and transparent presidency being thrown up so much.
>
> Sue, I'd wager that your memory doesn't include much of anything, honey.
>
> (Hint: Re-read my post closely. It isn't a defense of Obama, not in the
> slightest).
Your posts only deal with three things Chris: defending Obama, criticizing
conservatiives and attacking Jews. Man up and admit it bucko. Obama's
first year in office has been a financial and national security disaster
for America. And what about all of his promises to bring transparency to
government, to hold health care negotiations on C-SPAN and to provide a
tax cut for the middle class? Or how about his promise to eliminate
ear-mark spending, pay offs and back room deals? Or what about his
promises to work in a bi-partisan fashion and to unite the country? Hell,
what's the point of even talking to you about all of Obama's big campaign
promises? Just stick you head back in the kool aid bucket.
Irish Mike
"The problem with socialism is that, sooner or later, you run out of other
people's money."
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ChrisRobin
> Your posts only deal with three things Chris: defending Obama, criticizing
> conservatiives and attacking Jews. Man up and admit it bucko.
I regularly criticize Obama and the Democrats, and I do not attack "Jews"
� I attack the State of Israel. It appears that you are still functionally
illiterate. Good luck with that.
> Obama's first year in office has been a financial and national security
disaster
> for America.
Yes, it has. Where did I say otherwise?
> And what about all of his promises to bring transparency to
> government, to hold health care negotiations on C-SPAN and to provide a
> tax cut for the middle class? Or how about his promise to eliminate
> ear-mark spending, pay offs and back room deals? Or what about his
> promises to work in a bi-partisan fashion and to unite the country? Hell,
> what's the point of even talking to you about all of Obama's big campaign
> promises? Just stick you head back in the kool aid bucket.
I did not defend Obama, nor have I in any recent post that I can remember.
If your intellect was any duller, Mike, you'd be declared medically dead.
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raven1
<harry...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >Because of your comment?
>>
>> Noting that neither Michelle Malkin nor Dick Cheney has much
>> credibility with me is not the same as suggesting that I don't read
>> opposing views.
>
>true. you read them once, disagree, and don't anymore.
And yet another jump to an incorrect conclusion. I read columns by
people like Malkin and Cheney as often as I read columns by, say, Paul
Krugman. It's helpful to know what the other side is thinking.
susan
You wrote, and this is the full context of your post,
">By Michelle Malkin
LOL! Got anything by Dick Cheney?"
stop trying to deny what you wrote.
Jerry Sturdivant
"Irish Mike" <ad7...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
news:p3qh17x...@recgroups.com...
> On Jan 7 2010 1:41 PM, ChrisRobin wrote:
>
>> On Jan 7 2010 8:09 AM, susan wrote:
>>
>> > I will admit my memory doesn't include Bush saying a brazillion times
>> > that
>> > all the healthcare talks would be on C-Span, and I don't remember the
>> > open
>> > and transparent presidency being thrown up so much.
>>
>> Sue, I'd wager that your memory doesn't include much of anything, honey.
>>
>> (Hint: Re-read my post closely. It isn't a defense of Obama, not in the
>> slightest).
> Obama's first year in office has been a financial
> and national security disaster for America.
Bullshit. Care to compare losses between administrations? Or the fact Bush
pulled out of Afghanistan before the job was done (to needlessly attack
Iraq). Now your "security disaster" was inherited by Obama. Once again, he
has to clean up after Bush and the GOP years.
> And what about all of his promises to bring transparency to
> government
Excitably what he's done. Know what a web site is?
> Or how about his promise to eliminate ear-mark
> spending, pay offs and back room deals?
Compared to the GOP he's done a great job. How about the GOP promise to not
take bribery money from the healthcare insurance industry?
> Or what about his promises to work in a bi-partisan
> fashion and to unite the country?
I believe that was the Republicans that said they'd be bi-partisan. Is that
what you call 100% No Vote? It was the GOP that refused to negotiate with
the Democrats.
> Hell, what's the point of even talking to you about all of
> Obama's big campaign promises?
Especially when all you do is Cut & Paste & Run from debate.
Jerry 'n Vegas
Jerry Sturdivant
"mo_charles" <harry...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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And you just proven this is WAY over your head. Bush hid his papers in his
daddy's Presidential Library and it's obvious you have no clue as to what a
library is. Please stat out of the way, you only embarrass yourself.
Jerry 'n Vegas
susan
"Jerry Sturdivant"
>
>> And what about all of his promises to bring transparency to
>> government
>
> Excitably what he's done. Know what a web site is?
I was actually going to read some of your rants till I saw this dandy.
mo_charles
> > would be in one of many empty corners of your goddamn head.
>
> And you just proven this is WAY over your head.
they'd be harder to find if he hid them in dexter manley's library.
> Bush hid his papers in his
> daddy's Presidential Library and it's obvious you have no clue as to what a
> library is.
a library is a place to hide papers.
> Please stat out of the way, you only embarrass yourself.
okay. ty.
mo_charles
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misanthropic whackjob
> > Irish Mike
> >
> > "The problem with socialism is that, sooner or later, you run out of other
> > people's money."
> >
> Michelle Malkin is a contributor to Fox news and wrote a revisionist
> "history"book saying the internment of Japanese Americans was OK and
> Muslims
> should be interned the same way.She is a racist, pure and simple.
> hanks
Internment of the Japanese Americans WAS ok.
--
I don't care about you! Fuck you! - FEAR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyM4uAJBujA
misanthropic whackjob
> The only problem with the Patriot Act is that it didn't go far enough.
> You want to talk about Obama's performance in keeping America safe?
Mike how could you possibly defend the Patriot Act? This disgraceful
legislation took away more of our rights than any law before or since.
Remember, I am conservative, and I despise this piece of shit legislation.
>
> Irish Mike
>
> Where have all the anti-war protesters gone? When Bush was President,
> left wing anti-war protesters were staging rallies and marches in major
> cities all over the country, and MSNBC covered them in depth. Now that
> Obama is President, where have all the anti-war protesters gone?
--
I don't care about you! Fuck you! - FEAR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyM4uAJBujA
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Irish Mike
I support the Patriot Act because I believe we are at war. I also support
profiling and do not think any of the terrorists who attack this country,
or who are captured on the battlefield in a foreign country, should be
given the same rights as an American citizen. I think they are enemy
combatants, should be handed over to the military, be subject to enhanced
interrogation and should be tried by a military tribunal. I also think
they are subject to being held in a military prison, like Gitmo, until the
end of the war.
Let me shock you even further. If you are America's enemy, and you are
killing Americans, I want to see you dead and the sooner you get that way
the better I like it.
Irish Mike
Who doesn't ask any pardon for any things I've said or done.
FL Turbo
<a9d...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>On Jan 6 2010 9:26 PM, FL Turbo wrote:
>
>> Malkin can sure stir up hatred.
>>
>> She tells the unvarnished truth about the Demo "looters" in Congress,
>> and all the Libtards truly hate it.
>>
>> The Demos have instituted a system of Faith Based voting in Congress.
>>
>> There is no chance for anyone to actually read through the 1,000+
>> pages in the legislation, they are just called upon to have Faith that
>> it is the right thing to do at 1AM.
>> (Didn't their parents ever tell them that nothing good ever happens
>> after midnight?)
>>
>> But, for those whose Faith isn't quite strong enough, like Nelson in
>> Nebraska or Landrieux in Alabama, a big dollop of Pork is enough for
>> them the strengthen their faith.
>>
>> "$300,000,000 for Louisiana!! Praise the Lord and pass the ballot."
>
>You guys are hilarious hypocrites. I mean, you make it impossible for
>anyone to take you seriously. I won't defend the Democrats' behavior, but
>it's EXACTLY the same playbook used by the Bush team, and none of you
>morons so much as uttered a peep of dissent when legislation like the
>Patriot Act was rammed down Congress's collective throat in the dead of
>night, before it could be read, without any consultation of the opposition
>party.
>
The Patriot Act was passed in the direct aftermath of the 9/11/2001
Terrorist attack.
It passed the HR by 357-66
It passed the Senate by 98-1
The Demos jumped right on the bandwagon.
It didn't take any arm twisting or promises of Big Pork to get their
vote.
Fast-forward to today.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/74389-pelosi-responds-to-c-span-there-has-never-been-a-more-open-process
Pelosi tells C-SPAN: 'There has never been a more open process'
By Eric Zimmermann and Michael O'Brien - 01/05/10 03:29 PM ET
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) defended Congress' work on a
healthcare bill Tuesday saying the process has displayed historic
transparency, just as C-SPAN mounts an effort to open the
negotiations.
C-SPAN wrote a letter to congressional leaders Tuesday asking that TV
cameras be allowed to film negotiations to reconcile the House and
Senate versions of healthcare reform legislation.
But Pelosi said Congress has already been transparent throughout the
process.
"There has never been a more open process for any legislation," Pelosi
said at a press conference.
"We will do what is necessary to pass the bill," Pelosi said.
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Pelosi gets the coveted Pants On Fire Award.
"By any means necessary", I guess.
By now, you must have heard of the "ping-pong" strategy wherein the
House and the Senate hold secret meeting to settle their differences
without the traditional Conference Committee procedure?
Is that a new tradition that you want to see in the future?
>Your memory doesn't extend beyond last week, let alone the last
>Administration. Enough of the faux outrage already, you partisan hacks.
>
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FL Turbo
<ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> wrote:
>"FL Turbo" <noe...@notime.com> wrote in message
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>> On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 18:54:51 -0800, "Clave"
>> <ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> wrote:
>>
>>>"Irish Mike" <ad7...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
>>>news:n5vf17x...@recgroups.com...
>>>
>>><...>
>>>
>>>> The Senate bill is 2,500+ pages, the House bill is 2,000+ pages and the
>>>> Republicans were excluded...
>>>
>>>Oh, boo-fucking-hoo. They're excluded now because they proved that rather
>>>than negotiate in good faith, they're more interested in backstabbing
>>>whiny-ass titty-baby games. I suppose that never occurred to you.
>>>
>> As if anyone needed any more proof that your snoot is deep in the Demo
>> KoolAid jug...
>
>If you can look at recent history and not reach the same conclusion I did,
>no one needs further proof that you're stupider than susan *or* Travel.
>
>As if further proof were necessary in the first place...
>
>Jim
>
As is your custom;
97% Snark and 3% substance.
As if further proof was necessary.
ChrisRobin
> I support the Patriot Act because I believe we are at war.
Now there's the kind of critical thinking we've come to expect!
raven1
wrote:
Your point is?
I was derisive of both Malkin and Cheney. You derived any other
conclusion on your own.
Pepe Papon
<ad7...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>
>Let me shock you even further. If you are America's enemy, and you are
>killing Americans, I want to see you dead and the sooner you get that way
>the better I like it.
Feel the Christian love.
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"Pepe Papon" <hitme...@mindspring.dot.com.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 16:46:28 -0800, "Irish Mike"
> <ad7...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>
>>
>>Let me shock you even further. If you are America's enemy, and you are
>>killing Americans, I want to see you dead and the sooner you get that way
>>the better I like it.
>
> Feel the Christian love.
Well, Bush said his god wanted him to be president. And as president said to
go to war. So it must be his god's fault Bush bombed and killed tens of
thousands of innocent men, women and children by mistake. You would have
thought his god would have known Iraq didn't have WMD or could attack and
'kill Americans' within 15-minutes and would have told Bush.
And when the Iraqis defend themselves from the Americans that were killing
and torturing them, Irish Mike thinks we should kill even more.
Is Irish Mike's god the same as Bush's god?
Jerry (who needs God Insurance) 'n Vegas
da pickle
> Well, Bush said his god wanted him to be president. And as president said
> to go to war. So it must be his god's fault Bush bombed and killed tens of
> thousands of innocent men, women and children by mistake. You would have
> thought his god would have known Iraq didn't have WMD or could attack and
> 'kill Americans' within 15-minutes and would have told Bush.
>
> And when the Iraqis defend themselves from the Americans that were killing
> and torturing them, Irish Mike thinks we should kill even more.
>
> Is Irish Mike's god the same as Bush's god?
Well, the President has decided that we are "at war" ... I suppose this one
is a "just" war ... now.
mo_charles
abe lincoln started that war, and it was continued by eisenhower. nixon
lied to amp it up, and ford made deals to continue it. reagan cut taxes
to spend more on weapons there, and bush sr. bombed it when kuwait got
itself invaded by saddam hussein. bush was the real guy to blame, though.
he lied about the taliban being involved in 9/11, and now obama has to
dig us out.
mo_charles
mo_charles
>
> And yet another jump to an incorrect conclusion. I read columns by
> people like Malkin and Cheney as often as I read columns by, say, Paul
> Krugman. It's helpful to know what the other side is thinking.
cool. maybe you could tell us what the sides are and how you determine
which side one of these writers is on?
mo_charles
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raven1
<harry...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >true. you read them once, disagree, and don't anymore.
>>
>> And yet another jump to an incorrect conclusion. I read columns by
>> people like Malkin and Cheney as often as I read columns by, say, Paul
>> Krugman. It's helpful to know what the other side is thinking.
>
>cool. maybe you could tell us what the sides are
Malkin and Cheney: far right and neo-con respectively. Krugman:
moderate left.
>and how you determine
>which side one of these writers is on?
By reading them?
mo_charles
>
> Malkin and Cheney: far right and neo-con respectively. Krugman:
> moderate left.
>
> >and how you determine
> >which side one of these writers is on?
>
> By reading them?
keep lapping it up, two party sucker.
mo_charles
raven1
<harry...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >cool. maybe you could tell us what the sides are
>>
>> Malkin and Cheney: far right and neo-con respectively. Krugman:
>> moderate left.
>>
>> >and how you determine
>> >which side one of these writers is on?
>>
>> By reading them?
>
>keep lapping it up, two party sucker.
Do you have a point?
mo_charles
>
> Do you have a point?
no.
mo_charles
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Pepe Papon
<harry...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Well, Bush said his god wanted him to be president. And as president said
>> > to go to war. So it must be his god's fault Bush bombed and killed tens of
>> > thousands of innocent men, women and children by mistake. You would have
>> > thought his god would have known Iraq didn't have WMD or could attack and
>> > 'kill Americans' within 15-minutes and would have told Bush.
>> >
>> > And when the Iraqis defend themselves from the Americans that were killing
>> > and torturing them, Irish Mike thinks we should kill even more.
>> >
>> > Is Irish Mike's god the same as Bush's god?
>>
>> Well, the President has decided that we are "at war" ... I suppose this one
>> is a "just" war ... now.
>
>abe lincoln started that war, and it was continued by eisenhower. nixon
>lied to amp it up, and ford made deals to continue it. reagan cut taxes
>to spend more on weapons there, and bush sr. bombed it when kuwait got
>itself invaded by saddam hussein. bush was the real guy to blame, though.
> he lied about the taliban being involved in 9/11, and now obama has to
>dig us out.
>
>mo_charles
ButBush!
La Cosa Nostradamus
> On Jan 7 2010 7:46 PM, Irish Mike wrote:
>
> > I support the Patriot Act because I believe we are at war.
>
> Now there's the kind of critical thinking we've come to expect!
You dont think we are at war, koolaid boy/girl ?
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La Cosa Nostradamus
You have more patience than i do.
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La Cosa Nostradamus
Maybe you missed the part where islaamic nutjobs believe God wants them to
kill every man alive
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It got mighty quiet in here.
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La Cosa Nostradamus
> > > Well, Bush said his god wanted him to be president. And as president
said
> > > to go to war. So it must be his god's fault Bush bombed and killed tens
of
> > > thousands of innocent men, women and children by mistake. You would have
> > > thought his god would have known Iraq didn't have WMD or could attack
and
> > > 'kill Americans' within 15-minutes and would have told Bush.
> > >
> > > And when the Iraqis defend themselves from the Americans that were
killing
> > > and torturing them, Irish Mike thinks we should kill even more.
> > >
> > > Is Irish Mike's god the same as Bush's god?
> >
> > Well, the President has decided that we are "at war" ... I suppose this
one
> > is a "just" war ... now.
>
> abe lincoln started that war, and it was continued by eisenhower. nixon
> lied to amp it up, and ford made deals to continue it. reagan cut taxes
> to spend more on weapons there, and bush sr. bombed it when kuwait got
> itself invaded by saddam hussein. bush was the real guy to blame, though.
> he lied about the taliban being involved in 9/11, and now obama has to
> dig us out.
How about we get a sketch artist and she and i can make pictures of
unphotographed taliban people.
What this will do is show how odd it is that i can describe people who are
in the Taliban.
We will be able to make a lineup of people who coincidentally all hang out
together in Afghanistan
>
> mo_charles
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Which one ?
There have been 4 of em that i know of
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>
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"La Cosa Nostradamus" <a6f...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Jan 8 2010 8:44 AM, Jerry Sturdivant wrote:
>
>> "Pepe Papon" <hitme...@mindspring.dot.com.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:n5ndk5h7cg2afd3f8...@4ax.com...
>> > On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 16:46:28 -0800, "Irish Mike"
>> > <ad7...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>Let me shock you even further. If you are America's enemy, and you are
>> >>killing Americans, I want to see you dead and the sooner you get that
>> >>way
>> >>the better I like it.
>> >
>> > Feel the Christian love.
>>
>> Well, Bush said his god wanted him to be president. And as president said
>> to
>> go to war. So it must be his god's fault Bush bombed and killed tens of
>> thousands of innocent men, women and children by mistake. You would have
>> thought his god would have known Iraq didn't have WMD or could attack and
>> 'kill Americans' within 15-minutes and would have told Bush.
>>
>> And when the Iraqis defend themselves from the Americans that were
>> killing
>> and torturing them, Irish Mike thinks we should kill even more.
>>
>> Is Irish Mike's god the same as Bush's god?
>>
>>
>> Jerry (who needs God Insurance) 'n Vegas
>
> Maybe you missed the part where islaamic nutjobs believe God wants them to
> kill every man alive
I must have, because it's not true.
Jerry 'n Vegas
- Live a good, honorable life.. Then when you get older and think back,
you'll enjoy it a second time.
La Cosa Nostradamus
Just how many of them did you hang out with in their natural environment ?
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"La Cosa Nostradamus" <a6f...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
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Usually, when I embarrass people by showing them they're wrong they just
disappear. Just just change the subject.
Jerry 'n Vegas
- Sometimes you get, and sometimes you get got.
La Cosa Nostradamus
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"La Cosa Nostradamus" <a6f...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
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> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Yea, like that.
Jerry 'n Vegas
La Cosa Nostradamus
sorry, you did not embarress me at all. You wrongly refer to people i know
and its pointless to argue.
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"La Cosa Nostradamus" <a6f...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
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Not being embarrassed, when justified, is a sign of ignorance and stupidity.
Jerry 'n Vegas
La Cosa Nostradamus
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Gary Carson
He thinks that you're saying that the only two possible political
viewpoints is far right or moderate left. Basically he's an idiot and
thinks "which side" must mean there are only two possible sides, because
his entire world is two dimensional. It never occurs to him that a 5
dimensional space has "sides" also.
Mo's just a troll and he's not really a very bright one.
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mo_charles
>
> He thinks that you're saying that the only two possible political
> viewpoints is far right or moderate left. Basically he's an idiot and
> thinks "which side" must mean there are only two possible sides, because
> his entire world is two dimensional. It never occurs to him that a 5
> dimensional space has "sides" also.
>
> Mo's just a troll and he's not really a very bright one.
if you're ever confused about what you mean, just ask gary. he's not much
of an author, hasn't achieved much of anything, and he sometimes sleeps in
dumpsters (when he's not eating from them), but he's one hell of a mind
reader. tell us, gary, does posting to rgp pay the bills?
mo_charles
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