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alphon...@my-dejanews.com

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I wandered down to the place by the lake, near the Shiloh Inn, to participate
in a little 10-20. Here's what happened....

I get the 4-seat in what looks to be rock garden, but the fun is about to
begin. 3 hands in, I'm 4 left of the button, and this transpires:

I'm dealt bandanas. It's called to me, I raise it. Goes on call, raise, call,
raise, cap. Called capped all the way around, and I'm thinking "Sweet!" Flop
comes down a potpourri, and I've got the nuts. Comes raised to me, I
re-raise, winds up capped with *7* callers. Yes, seven. I don't know what to
think. I'm a little nervous about 6-seat. I've seen him before, and he's a
cold rock. I don't know what to put him at. Wired handbags? Inside edge?
Green Hornet draw? I just don't know. Initially, I would've thought
rockets... but he wasn't sitting up straight enough.

8-seat is also familiar, but I know her style. I put her at Caracas Maracas
and not worry about her; she'll call to the river; free money. 2-seat's hands
are actually SHAKING as he bets. He's obviously got a Michigan going on, and
that worries me a little bit... so I try to scare him off and put him on tilt
by pulling off the famous "try to re-raise the cap". He doesn't fall for it
-- not even a flinch. Could be trouble...

I'm not even sure what I want to see on the turn. You're probably thinking a
black Pollyanna would lock this up, but keep in mind that there are still a
lot of unknowns going on -- it could easily help someone else just as much.

Anyway, not to worry... the turn: RED RAG. You should've seen the look on 3
and 5 seats. It was comical. Well, there's two gone at least.

Quick betting, and once again it's capped, but only 4 left. Me, 2-seat,
6-seat and 8-seat. Now it gets interesting. RIVER: black flamingo. Even the
dealer was amused.

It comes checked all the way to me. What can I do... I bet it. It then gets
RAISED... FOLD, FOLD. Yes! 2-seat folded. Man, I'd love to know what he had.
Anyone hazard a guess?? After the turn, I'd thought he was trying to catch a
flag coming off third, but clearly that was way off. Anyway, that's a whole
discussion on its own.

Back to me, and just 6-seat left. Me and him, mano a mano. Again, what can I
do? RE-RAISE! And, believe it or not, he RAISED IT RIGHT BACK AT ME. What can
you do?? I mucked it, and he took it down. I still can't believe it.

Thinking back, there are a couple of things that come to mind. For one, had I
been a little more aggressive earlier on, I may have managed to get myself all
in -- and that could've forced a showdown and avoided this whole experience.

Or maybe, when you've got 7 callers, you just know to get the hell out, no
matter what you have.

Let this be a lesson!!

Comments??


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NewJane1

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>I'm dealt bandanas.

>Wired handbags?

>Inside edge?

>Green Hornet draw?

>Caracas Maracas

>Michigan

>black Pollyanna

>RED RAG.

>black flamingo

> trying to catch a
>flag coming off third,

ROFLMAO

Okay, here's the drill:
Re-do this post and translate the above quoted expressions, and I might have an
intelligent comment.

Again, maybe I won't...

NewJane

Lee Jones

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Mar 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/26/99
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In article <7dh0oo$iht$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
<alphon...@my-dejanews.com> wrote:

>I'm dealt bandanas. It's called to me, I raise it. Goes on call, raise, call,
>raise, cap. Called capped all the way around, and I'm thinking "Sweet!" Flop
>comes down a potpourri, and I've got the nuts. Comes raised to me, I
>re-raise, winds up capped with *7* callers. Yes, seven. I don't know what to
>think. I'm a little nervous about 6-seat. I've seen him before, and he's a
>cold rock. I don't know what to put him at. Wired handbags? Inside edge?
>Green Hornet draw? I just don't know. Initially, I would've thought
>rockets... but he wasn't sitting up straight enough.
>

>Let this be a lesson!!
>
>Comments??

Yes, I think Tyler Wong is back in town, and posting under a pseudonym.

Regards, Lee
"Only possible explanation"
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Brian

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Mar 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/26/99
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The best story I have every read that I didn't understand two words of.

Brian.

pat gilvary

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>

>
> Comments??
>
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How, in god's name could you lay it down? I played the 6-seat on
Tuesday and I know he was runnin' a game. What time was it? He has to
catch a train. His car's busticated and he always bluffs at a quarter
to the train. Shame on you.
--
Pat Gilvary

"Trying is the first step in failing."
- H. Simpson

J. Lochrie

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J. Lochrie responds:

Maybe so, but then again maybe not. If you had tried a bullfrog early
on it might have worked out differtenly? But then again, maybe not.

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alphon...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
> I wandered down to the place by the lake, near the Shiloh Inn, to participate
> in a little 10-20. Here's what happened....
>
> I get the 4-seat in what looks to be rock garden, but the fun is about to
> begin. 3 hands in, I'm 4 left of the button, and this transpires:
>

Heldar

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Mar 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/26/99
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Do-de-do-do there's dough, you know, but there's not no nuts in you know
whats.

--with apologies to Homer Price

P.S. 6-seat had the bee's knees from the git-go.

Mitch Firestone

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Mar 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/27/99
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On Fri, 26 Mar 1999 22:12:47, alphon...@my-dejanews.com wrote:

>
> I'm dealt bandanas. It's called to me, I raise it. Goes on call, raise, call,
> raise, cap. Called capped all the way around, and I'm thinking "Sweet!" Flop
> comes down a potpourri, and I've got the nuts. Comes raised to me, I
> re-raise, winds up capped with *7* callers. Yes, seven. I don't know what to
> think. I'm a little nervous about 6-seat. I've seen him before, and he's a
> cold rock. I don't know what to put him at. Wired handbags? Inside edge?
> Green Hornet draw? I just don't know. Initially, I would've thought
> rockets... but he wasn't sitting up straight enough.
>
>

> Comments??

MEGA-SADDENZ....Pocket Bandanas no good; you go home now!!!

Lieutenant Uhura, get that Universal Translator back on-line immediately.
Scotty, the warp core is being affected by a jargon overload from an evil
parallel universe.

NO WIRED HANDBAGS!!!!!
..Joan Crawford


Mitch (BFB) Firestone
The Big Bad City
New York, New York

bel...@sprynet.com

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Mar 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/27/99
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In article <7dh0oo$iht$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
alphon...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
> Comments??
>
Yeah...
What the HELL are you talking about!?

(Well, someone HAD to say it)

poke...@my-dejanews.com

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Mar 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/27/99
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You played it the same way I would have. What else could you do?

maggie

In article <7dh0oo$iht$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
alphon...@my-dejanews.com wrote:

> I wandered down to the place by the lake, near the Shiloh Inn, to participate
> in a little 10-20. Here's what happened....
>
> I get the 4-seat in what looks to be rock garden, but the fun is about to
> begin. 3 hands in, I'm 4 left of the button, and this transpires:
>

> I'm dealt bandanas. It's called to me, I raise it. Goes on call, raise, call,
> raise, cap. Called capped all the way around, and I'm thinking "Sweet!" Flop
> comes down a potpourri, and I've got the nuts. Comes raised to me, I
> re-raise, winds up capped with *7* callers. Yes, seven. I don't know what to
> think. I'm a little nervous about 6-seat. I've seen him before, and he's a
> cold rock. I don't know what to put him at. Wired handbags? Inside edge?
> Green Hornet draw? I just don't know. Initially, I would've thought
> rockets... but he wasn't sitting up straight enough.
>

> Let this be a lesson!!
>
> Comments??
>

JohnnyD

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Mar 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/27/99
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In article <19990326173630...@ng39.aol.com>,

newj...@aol.com (NewJane1) wrote:
> >I'm dealt bandanas.
>
> >Wired handbags?
>
> >Inside edge?
>
> >Green Hornet draw?
>
> >Caracas Maracas
>
> >Michigan
>
> >black Pollyanna
>
> >RED RAG.
>
> >black flamingo
>
> > trying to catch a
> >flag coming off third,
>
> ROFLMAO
>
> Okay, here's the drill:
> Re-do this post and translate the above quoted expressions, and I might have
an


I'm with Jane. Just when you think you are learning this game, something like
this comes along to let you know how stupid you are.

JohnnyD


> intelligent comment.
>
> Again, maybe I won't...
>
> NewJane
>

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Grant Denn

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Comments:
I didn't understand a word of that.

G


--
Grant 'R' Denn grant...@uiowa.edu
Dept. Physics and Astronomy
University of Iowa
http://www-astro.physics.uiowa.edu/~grd

FASTQUOTE

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Mar 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/28/99
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Fabulous gibberish to begin with and then the funniest thread I've ever read in
a newsgroup.
Thanks for the entertainment.
Paul D

bel...@sprynet.com

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In article <7dh0oo$iht$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
alphon...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> I wandered down to the place by the lake, near the Shiloh Inn, to participate
> in a little 10-20. Here's what happened....
>
A lot of peoplle, myself included, seem confused by this discription.

I have secured Dr Von Sidebottom, noted Poker Lexiconist, to enlighten us.


> I get the 4-seat in what looks to be rock garden,

A table of tight players.


but the fun is about to
> begin. 3 hands in, I'm 4 left of the button,

Fourth seat after the dealer, or 2 after the "blinds"

and this transpires:
>
> I'm dealt bandanas.

Good rags. Seemingly an oxymoron, it refers to low suited connectors, 4,5
hearts for instance.'


It's called to me, I raise it. Goes on call, raise, call,
> raise, cap. Called capped all the way around, and I'm thinking "Sweet!" Flop
> comes down a potpourri,

A "Sweet" hit that looks really mixed.
using the 4&5 above, it would be 2,3,6 rainbow

and I've got the nuts. Comes raised to me, I
> re-raise, winds up capped with *7* callers. Yes, seven. I don't know what to
> think. I'm a little nervous about 6-seat. I've seen him before, and he's a
> cold rock. I don't know what to put him at. Wired handbags?

Aces... spades and hearts.
Look like little purses.

Inside edge?
A-4, the lower end around the 2,3. No threat.

> Green Hornet draw?

Runner runner straight flush, a real stinger!

I just don't know. Initially, I would've thought
> rockets... but he wasn't sitting up straight enough.
>

Top two pair, but not up.

> 8-seat is also familiar, but I know her style. I put her at Caracas Maracas

Maracas are breasts, in slang terms, thus big breasts, or double d, or dueces
wired.
With the 2 on the flop, trips, but running under him.

> and not worry about her; she'll call to the river; free money. 2-seat's hands
> are actually SHAKING as he bets. He's obviously got a Michigan going on, and
> that worries me a little bit..

Car dealer's hand...4,7 suited, for the 4.7% financing popular about.
Top straight if he hits.


. so I try to scare him off and put him on tilt
> by pulling off the famous "try to re-raise the cap". He doesn't fall for it
> -- not even a flinch. Could be trouble...
>
> I'm not even sure what I want to see on the turn. You're probably thinking a
> black Pollyanna would lock this up, but keep in mind that there are still a
> lot of unknowns going on -- it could easily help someone else just as much.
>

Low Ace, making lower straights look good.

> Anyway, not to worry... the turn: RED RAG. You should've seen the look on 3
> and 5 seats. It was comical. Well, there's two gone at least.
>

Some low heart, making the flop 4 suited. But not on the straight.

> Quick betting, and once again it's capped, but only 4 left. Me, 2-seat,
> 6-seat and 8-seat. Now it gets interesting. RIVER: black flamingo. Even the
> dealer was amused.
>

That's a 9, liiking like a 6 upside down.
Teaser, no easy straights or board pairs


> It comes checked all the way to me. What can I do... I bet it. It then gets
> RAISED... FOLD, FOLD. Yes! 2-seat folded. Man, I'd love to know what he had.
> Anyone hazard a guess?? After the turn, I'd thought he was trying to catch a
> flag coming off third, but clearly that was way off. Anyway, that's a whole
> discussion on its own.
>

True. A flag is from the Ukrainian version of the game, a Joker that the high
raiser names, rank and suit.
Each other player MUST use either the rank or the suit, and must use the card
in their hand.

> Back to me, and just 6-seat left. Me and him, mano a mano. Again, what can I
> do? RE-RAISE! And, believe it or not, he RAISED IT RIGHT BACK AT ME. What can
> you do?? I mucked it, and he took it down. I still can't believe it.
>

Thinking back, he shoulda raised again before he folded.


> Thinking back, there are a couple of things that come to mind. For one, had I
> been a little more aggressive earlier on, I may have managed to get myself all
> in -- and that could've forced a showdown and avoided this whole experience.
>

Or perhaps gone in sideways and forced a front to back realignment.


> Or maybe, when you've got 7 callers, you just know to get the hell out, no
> matter what you have.
>

Yes! NEVER be in a big pot!

> Let this be a lesson!!

Dr Von Sidebottom can be reached via the internet...

Joe Long

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On Fri, 26 Mar 1999 22:12:47 GMT, alphon...@my-dejanews.com wrote:

>I'm dealt bandanas. It's called to me, I raise it. Goes on call, raise, call,


>raise, cap. Called capped all the way around, and I'm thinking "Sweet!" Flop

>comes down a potpourri, and I've got the nuts. Comes raised to me, I


>re-raise, winds up capped with *7* callers. Yes, seven. I don't know what to
>think. I'm a little nervous about 6-seat. I've seen him before, and he's a

>cold rock. I don't know what to put him at. Wired handbags? Inside edge?
>Green Hornet draw? I just don't know. Initially, I would've thought


>rockets... but he wasn't sitting up straight enough.

There was your first mistake. A potpourri flop when you've got
bandanas is the nuts at the flop, but it's vulnernable, and not only
to handbags. Suppose somebody was playing jelly bellies?

>8-seat is also familiar, but I know her style. I put her at Caracas Maracas

>and not worry about her; she'll call to the river; free money. 2-seat's hands
>are actually SHAKING as he bets. He's obviously got a Michigan going on, and

>that worries me a little bit... so I try to scare him off and put him on tilt


>by pulling off the famous "try to re-raise the cap". He doesn't fall for it
>-- not even a flinch. Could be trouble...

You bet, especially if his Michigan is the Upper Penisula.

>I'm not even sure what I want to see on the turn. You're probably thinking a
>black Pollyanna would lock this up, but keep in mind that there are still a
>lot of unknowns going on -- it could easily help someone else just as much.

That it could, and a red Curmudgeon would be almost as bad -- a real
trap scenario.

>Anyway, not to worry... the turn: RED RAG. You should've seen the look on 3
>and 5 seats. It was comical. Well, there's two gone at least.

You lucked out here, unless one of your opponents was a woman on PMS.

>Quick betting, and once again it's capped, but only 4 left. Me, 2-seat,
>6-seat and 8-seat. Now it gets interesting. RIVER: black flamingo. Even the
>dealer was amused.

I'll bet! There were probably more than one pair of brown shorts
after that.

>It comes checked all the way to me. What can I do... I bet it. It then gets
>RAISED... FOLD, FOLD. Yes! 2-seat folded. Man, I'd love to know what he had.
>Anyone hazard a guess?? After the turn, I'd thought he was trying to catch a
>flag coming off third, but clearly that was way off. Anyway, that's a whole
>discussion on its own.

No guts, no glory. He probably was working a Beerbelly Gainer.

>Back to me, and just 6-seat left. Me and him, mano a mano. Again, what can I
>do? RE-RAISE! And, believe it or not, he RAISED IT RIGHT BACK AT ME. What can
>you do?? I mucked it, and he took it down. I still can't believe it.

Hey, at least you made the right play at the end. Most people would
have thrown away another bet, but you read him right.

>Thinking back, there are a couple of things that come to mind. For one, had I
>been a little more aggressive earlier on, I may have managed to get myself all
>in -- and that could've forced a showdown and avoided this whole experience.

Damn betting caps. But why didn't you try Dolly's Ploy?

>Or maybe, when you've got 7 callers, you just know to get the hell out, no
>matter what you have.

Naw, when you're dealt bandanas you can't get away from them.

>Let this be a lesson!!

Amen!

>Comments??

Hell of a bad beat.

--

Joe Long
jl...@mti.net
http://www.mti.net Business
http://www.rnbw.com Personal

Doczuck

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>Subject: Re: BAD BEAT at the 10-20

This was the funnist thing I've read here ever

S.Z.

alphon...@my-dejanews.com

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In article <7dliaa$57e$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
bel...@sprynet.com wrote:

> I have secured Dr Von Sidebottom, noted Poker Lexiconist, to enlighten us.

Well -- it's been an interesting response to my initial posting. There have
been a lot of messages posted basically saying, "Huh??" while I've received a
number of lucid, succint and illuminating emails with wonderfully detailed
analyses of this hand. I'm still swapping ideas back and forth with a few of
those people.

I was delighted to see that it made its way to Dr. Von Sidebottom. That's
not exactly his real name, but if you think hard enough about it, you'll all
know who he is. I've never "officially" met him, but I did have the
(dis)pleasure of sitting next to him (to my LEFT, of course) a few years
back. For the first time in my life, I chose to sit the apple, and it was
such a horrible experience... it affected me so adversely that even today,
years later, even my barber is still on tilt.

For those who've ever played 300-600, you'll know how I felt after I describe
the evening's events. After about 3 hours of Dr. Von Sidebottom flushing my
nut straights down the river, scaring me away from my top two, confusing the
hell out of me by folding the big blind after it comes around called to him,
folding out of turn, mucking a hand in anger and flipping his cards towards
the dealer, only to have them "accidently" flip over to reveal the nuts,
spilling his warm milk, not onto me, but actually INTO my beer, tipping
waitresses with black chips, ordering fried chicken and getting grease all
over the cards (we needed a SETUP every 5 hands, it seemed), etc... I mean,
you get the idea. Anyway, after ALL of this... FINALLY, this transpires (and
I'll say it in English this time so we can ALL play along...)

I'm dealt delihlas. I'd noticed a third one on the bottom of the deck before
the dealer cut and started dealing, so I know it's in the middle of the deck
somewhere. It ain't coming out. Flop comes down hard, but the 4th one is
there! Miracle, I've got the nuts and it's truly unbeatable. To make a long
story short, after lots of loud betting, screaming, threats, etc... it's just
me and the Doc going at it. We all know the drill at this point... by mutual
agreement, it's just a RERAISING FESTIVAL. It goes back and forth 10 times
before I just say, "Look -- I've got about 8 grand here... I'll go all in if
you wanna match it." He gets up, starts pacing... thinking it over, glaring
at me; the whole show is in production. Finally, with great flourish, he
screams, "I'm all in BABY!" and with a mighty swing, bats his entire stack
(which were tall piles -- 50 high I think) onto the table. The chips come
crashing down all over the freakin' place, all over the other players, the
dealer, the dealer's chips, etc. It takes some guy's cocktail glass down
too, and there's booze all over the table now. He's screaming obscenities;
it's total pandemonium... security guards come running. The cards are
soaked, chips are everywhere, no one knows what's going on. End result:
mis-deal. Refunds for EVERYBODY. Yes, EVERYBODY, even the small blind who
wasn't even around for the flop.

I don't know if this qualifies as a bad beat, but it does qualify as a
nightmare. Either way, I'm happy to see that the Doc keeps an eye on this
group, even if indirectly. Perhaps he'd like to join me for a quiet evening
of no-limit one of these days...

Josephb007

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I believe this thread is an attempt at humor, however I'm not sure how it
relates to the bad beats we all suffer through daily. Oh well, I guess I'.l.l
have to start mucking those bandanas before the flop.
CJ

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