Building a case for 911
joeturn
Here you can see no plane was evident so how can we fix this?
Larry Gable
angle, there are dozens of others on YouTube):
joeturn
Larry your gonna find this hard to swallow but there were no planes
hit any of the towers that day they were all photoshopped into like a
cartoon and you were told what to see!
Even this guy was wrong as he was trying to explain a cartoon! There
was no live feeds untill the next day after they were photo shopped
into view! Nadeuas film shows no plane just a sound then it was photo
shopped to include a plane!?!?
joeturn
Alim Nassor 1
> Here the planes have been repaired and put back on line!
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2QAh0rBrew&feature=related
Good Lord, basing your arguments on anything the loons of "Loose
Change" have to say is proof enough for me that you are also a loon.
Irish Mike
or was an inside job by the American government, is a total nut case or a
dim witted gullible moron, or both. So fuck every one of you miserable
left wing bastards who have perpetuated this disgraceful lie.
Irish Mike
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joeturn
Coming from someone that believes politicians and religions are
somewhat honorable and believeable.
Clave
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No, only his.
Jim
joeturn
I find facts where they lay Loose change can not be a total loss of
fact I mean a believeble mis imformation has to be mixed with a little
truth along the way to gain perspective as in vote for me I approove
this message!
In the begining I created so on and so on ect ect.
And on the sixth day I say let there be light so I can see what I have
created!
joeturn
for the public the next day!
Pepe Papon
<ad7...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>Any one who believes that the muslim terrorist attack on 9/11 was staged
>or was an inside job by the American government, is a total nut case or a
>dim witted gullible moron, or both. So fuck every one of you miserable
>left wing bastards who have perpetuated this disgraceful lie.
Mike, do you consider Paul Popinjay to be a left winger?
x
8637-4aa...@l20g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:
Are you saying you're starting to suspect joeturn of being a loon?
joeturn
> Alim Nassor 1 <AlimNass...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:d3c8cacd-2ab4-4396-
> 8637-4aa9124d1...@l20g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:
>
> > On Oct 1, 8:40 pm, joeturn <joeturn2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Here the planes have been repaired and put back on line!
>
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2QAh0rBrew&feature=related
>
> > Good Lord, basing your arguments on anything the loons of "Loose
> > Change" have to say is proof enough for me that you are also a loon.
>
> Are you saying you're starting to suspect joeturn of being a loon?
raven1
<joetu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Oct 1, 7:58 pm, Larry Gable <larryga...@live.com> wrote:
>> Here's a better angle to watch it hit (and if you don't like this
>> angle, there are dozens of others on YouTube):
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XELamUnF0EU
>
>Larry your gonna find this hard to swallow but there were no planes
>hit any of the towers that day they were all photoshopped into like a
>cartoon and you were told what to see!
I know several people who saw the planes hit the towers, including two
who saw the second plane pass overhead while they were watching from
the Staten Island Ferry heading towards lower Manhattan. Were they
also told what to see?
Irish Mike
Which of the various Popinjay identities would you be referring to?
Irish Mike
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"joeturn" <joetu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Now where is the video showing how planes were create in the videos
> for the public the next day!
>
> http://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play?&p=editing+911&vid=165786682088&dt=1214204400&l=378&turl=http%3A%2F%2Fts1.mm.bing.net%2Fvideos%2Fthumbnail.aspx%3Fq%3D165786682088%26id%3Dddf1f113287e6518181f8476c1b60ee1%26bid%3Do1xTpBeakYqLJw%26bn%3DThumb%26url%3Dhttp%253a%252f%252fwww.youtube.com%252fwatch%253fv%253dmnzh-EyxKwc&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dmnzh-EyxKwc&tit=911++Pentagon++Footage++Fraud+-++See+the++MISSING++FO...&sigr=11akuqbnp&newfp=1
This idiot has no clue as to interlace in tv screens.
More proof that you conspiracy nuts are just that: Nuts.
Jerry
joeturn
> "joeturn" <joeturn2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:ac02a2b5-7b45-42f6...@l6g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Now where is the video showing how planes were create in the videos
> > for the public the next day!
>
>
> This idiot has no clue as to interlace in tv screens.
>
> More proof that you conspiracy nuts are just that: Nuts.
>
> Jerry
Here is with and without a plane which one came first Jerry the
chicken or the egg?
joeturn
joeturn
>
> news:ac02a2b5-7b45-42f6...@l6g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Now where is the video showing how planes were create in the videos
> > for the public the next day!
>
>
> This idiot has no clue as to interlace in tv screens.
>
> More proof that you conspiracy nuts are just that: Nuts.
>
> Jerry
So Jerry I see you have emense knowledge in interlaced verses
progressive. Why dont you explain how the interrlace tv screen effects
the video fading! Enquiring minds wants to know!
Your explanation will proove this idiot has not got 1 iota of sense
and must surely be comparing apples to oranges! You tell'em Jerry .
You have 10 seconds GO!
ChrisRobin
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lepqPvru_s&feature=related
>
> Here you can see no plane was evident so how can we fix this?
And you wonder why "Truthers" are ridiculed? Jesus, man. Shut the fuck up
already.
hanks
This has nothing to do with the "left wing" I am a proud card carrying
member of the ACLU
and a dyed inthe wool liberal. These nut bags are right wing zealots,
you constantly try
to villify any opinion which you do not agree with. If there were a
hell you'd be burning
there baby.
hanks
Alim Nassor 1
> Alim Nassor 1 <AlimNass...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:d3c8cacd-2ab4-4396-
> 8637-4aa9124d1...@l20g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:
>
> >> Here the planes have been repaired and put back on line!
>
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2QAh0rBrew&feature=related
>
> > Good Lord, basing your arguments on anything the loons of "Loose
> > Change" have to say is proof enough for me that you are also a loon.
>
> Are you saying you're starting to suspect joeturn of being a loon?
LOL, I guess I had been giving him some benefit of the doubt.
Pepe Papon
Your "friends" are government plants. They're in on it.
Pepe Papon
<ad7...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>On Oct 2 2010 4:02 AM, Pepe Papon wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 21:06:52 -0700, "Irish Mike"
>> <ad7...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> >Any one who believes that the muslim terrorist attack on 9/11 was staged
>> >or was an inside job by the American government, is a total nut case or a
>> >dim witted gullible moron, or both. So fuck every one of you miserable
>> >left wing bastards who have perpetuated this disgraceful lie.
>>
>> Mike, do you consider Paul Popinjay to be a left winger?
>
>Which of the various Popinjay identities would you be referring to?
>
>Irish Mike
Way to dodge the question.
Oh, and in case it wasn't obvious enough, I'm referring to the Paul
Popinjay that posts under the name Paul Popinjay.
Pepe Papon
<a9d...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>On Oct 1 2010 7:21 PM, joeturn wrote:
>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lepqPvru_s&feature=related
>>
>> Here you can see no plane was evident so how can we fix this?
>
>And you wonder why "Truthers" are ridiculed? Jesus, man. Shut the fuck up
>already.
Are you starting to understand the generalization?
Jerry Sturdivant
"joeturn" <joetu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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What has this to do with that guy that thinks the Pentagon blew up before
the plane hit? He didn't understand the interlace refresh of TV electronics
or refresh rates. He thought he saw an explosion before the plane hit.
I don't know what your link is supposed to represent
Jerry 'n Vegas
Jerry Sturdivant
"joeturn" <joetu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:b1a76dde-8c17-43cd...@l20g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
Your last link was something about a movie actress (always a great source of
information) and this post makes no sense. Like I said, you conspiracy nuts
are just that.
Jerry 'n Vegas
K9way
> Any one who believes that the muslim terrorist attack on 9/11 was staged
> or was an inside job by the American government, is a total nut case or a
> dim witted gullible moron, or both. So fuck every one of you miserable
> left wing bastards who have perpetuated this disgraceful lie.
>
> Irish Mike
>
> Islam: Winning the hearts and minds of infidels one suicide bomber at a
> time.
If IMike weighs in on somenoe being a "dim witted gullible moron " , you
must listen
he is an expert
do you have a telephone number or a social security number or an address
or a ....
Alim's answer: None of those track my every move
--------
joeturn
> On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 17:31:06 -0700 (PDT), joeturn
>
Sounds like they told you what to believe. Did you see any planes
could they have been a practice run for Project Bluebeam?
Friends works in mysterious ways did they keep your keys to keep you
from driving WUI
joeturn
Ronald Reagan was an actor he went into politics saying read my lips
and resigned his post saying I dont recall is this note worthy ?
joeturn
The truth is to the core Chris Robin.You cant just pick parts that fit
your fancy and try to dismantle the governments atrisities. You have
to dive into reality and point out not if the government was involved
but why were they compelled to do this evil deed was comitted . The
clip shows realtime video where no plane was in sight . the altered
version fixed that so now everyone can see planes were added to the
mix so Silverstien could collect on his insurance policy!$$$$$
ChresRoben are you affended by iesus this greek mythological god can't
help you anymore wake up Come out of her My people!
joeturn
> "joeturn" <joeturn2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:e59d2cde-7edd-4538...@n3g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 2, 12:48 pm, "Jerry Sturdivant" <jerr...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> "joeturn" <joeturn2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:ac02a2b5-7b45-42f6...@l6g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> > Now where is the video showing how planes were create in the videos
> >> > for the public the next day!
>
> >> >http://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play?&p=editing+911&vid=165786682...
>
> >> This idiot has no clue as to interlace in tv screens.
>
> >> More proof that you conspiracy nuts are just that: Nuts.
>
> >> Jerry
>
> > Here is with and without a plane which one came first Jerry the
> > chicken or the egg?
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9DrbqB9CVY&feature=related
>
> What has this to do with that guy that thinks the Pentagon blew up before
> the plane hit? He didn't understand the interlace refresh of TV electronics
> or refresh rates. He thought he saw an explosion before the plane hit.
>
> I don't know what your link is supposed to represent
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Jerry the guy has a degree in video analasis and he has shown the
froze fram the feds released includes both the impact and explosion
befor the plane reaches its destination!
You have to be able to not let interlace technology destroy your
concept of vedio analysis!
What possed you to bring up "interlaced" it is obviuos you know not of
what(they do) you speak
joeturn
>
> - Show quoted text -
We have came a long way but Alex believes the astronauts have made it
to the moon when you and I know that is still impossible!
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheAlexJonesChannel
Jerry n Stuga vitch
joeturn
>
> - Show quoted text -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n-nT-luFIw&p=DA4849037DF81005&playnext=1&index=42
joeturn
> "joeturn" <joeturn2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:e59d2cde-7edd-4538...@n3g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 2, 12:48 pm, "Jerry Sturdivant" <jerr...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> "joeturn" <joeturn2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:ac02a2b5-7b45-42f6...@l6g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> > Now where is the video showing how planes were create in the videos
> >> > for the public the next day!
>
> >> >http://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play?&p=editing+911&vid=165786682...
>
> >> This idiot has no clue as to interlace in tv screens.
>
> >> More proof that you conspiracy nuts are just that: Nuts.
>
> >> Jerry
>
> > Here is with and without a plane which one came first Jerry the
> > chicken or the egg?
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9DrbqB9CVY&feature=related
>
> What has this to do with that guy that thinks the Pentagon blew up before
> the plane hit? He didn't understand the interlace refresh of TV electronics
> or refresh rates. He thought he saw an explosion before the plane hit.
>
> I don't know what your link is supposed to represent
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
The link jerry was edited it touched a nerve somewhere and was pulled!
Dont get confused here as we alrerady have been taught the word PULLED
means to get the firefighters out of harms way because the building
are fixing to be destroyed!
ChrisRobin
This guy isn't a Truther. He's mentally ill.
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joeturn
Chris Robin the son of zues will get you for that!
Do not read this article you cant handle the truth,people that believe
that man has made it to the moon have been Monarched beyond repair!
joeturn
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news:hatjn7x...@recgroups.com:
> “Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We
> didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought
> for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we
> will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s
> children what it was once like in the United States where men were
> free.” ~ Ronald Reagan
"Let it be said by our children's children, that when we were tested, we
refused to let this journey end. That we did not turn back, nor did we
falter. And with eyes fixed on the horizon, and God's grace upon us, we
carried forth that great gift of freedom, and delivered it safely to future
generations."
joeturn
> "Irish Mike" <ad7c...@webnntp.invalid> wrote innews:hatjn7x...@recgroups.com:
Let us now pay tribute to our very own unsung hero Mark Bingham! Lets
Roll!
joeturn
which is interlaced.
Jerry what do Marines call their buddy that polishes the DIs guns to
get ahead?
http://letsrollforums.com/digital-computer-recreation-9-t22144.html
Pepe Papon
<a9d...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>On Oct 3 2010 2:08 AM, Pepe Papon wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 02 Oct 2010 15:49:28 -0700, "ChrisRobin"
>> <a9d...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>
>> >And you wonder why "Truthers" are ridiculed? Jesus, man. Shut the fuck up
>> >already.
>>
>> Are you starting to understand the generalization?
>
>This guy isn't a Truther. He's mentally ill.
He's a conspiracy theorist. Of course he's mentally ill.
joeturn
> On Sun, 03 Oct 2010 18:11:45 -0700, "ChrisRobin"
>
> >On Oct 3 2010 2:08 AM, Pepe Papon wrote:
>
> >> On Sat, 02 Oct 2010 15:49:28 -0700, "ChrisRobin"
> >> <a9db...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>
> >> >And you wonder why "Truthers" are ridiculed? Jesus, man. Shut the fuck up
> >> >already.
>
> >> Are you starting to understand the generalization?
>
> >This guy isn't a Truther. He's mentally ill.
>
> He's a conspiracy theorist. Of course he's mentally ill.
Charlie Sheen says you cant fool the circle fly!
Jerry Sturdivant
"joeturn" <joetu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Oct 3, 9:07 am, "Jerry Sturdivant" <jerr...@cox.net> wrote:
>> "joeturn" <joeturn2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:e59d2cde-7edd-4538...@n3g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Oct 2, 12:48 pm, "Jerry Sturdivant" <jerr...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >> "joeturn" <joeturn2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:ac02a2b5-7b45-42f6...@l6g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >> > Now where is the video showing how planes were create in the videos
>> >> > for the public the next day!
>>
>> >> >http://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play?&p=editing+911&vid=165786682...
>>
>> >> This idiot has no clue as to interlace in tv screens.
>>
>> >> More proof that you conspiracy nuts are just that: Nuts.
>>
>> >> Jerry
>>
>> > Here is with and without a plane which one came first Jerry the
>> > chicken or the egg?
>>
>> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9DrbqB9CVY&feature=related
>>
>> What has this to do with that guy that thinks the Pentagon blew up before
>> the plane hit? He didn't understand the interlace refresh of TV
>> electronics
>> or refresh rates. He thought he saw an explosion before the plane hit.
>>
>> I don't know what your link is supposed to represent
>>
>> Jerry 'n Vegas- Hide quoted text -
> Jerry the guy has a degree in video analasis ...
A degree in what?
> ... and he has shown the
> froze fram the feds released includes both the impact and explosion
> befor the plane reaches its destination!
And I have a Federal First Class FCC License, allowing me to run radio and
TV stations; among other things. I'm telling you it's a refresh. The next
picture was interlacing with the old one. The last picture was the plane
entering, the next frame was the explosion. Half of each picture on was the
screen at the same time.
Jerry 'n Vegas
> You have to be able to not let interlace technology destroy your
> concept of vedio analysis!
>
> What possed you to bring up "interlaced" it is obviuos you know not of
> what(they do) you speak
Yea, I'm only an expert at it.
Jerry 'n Vegas
joeturn
So expert Jerry N Stukavich
You are saying that the film was faded and it was an intentional
attemtp to keep truthers from showing the world what actually pasted
from one frame to the next! Look closely you can see the two security
cars left no stream of fog as they passed from one frame to the next
as would anything travling at say 450mph.
Now let your expertise guide you to the speed and size of so called
airliner passing from frame to frame.
Now your surely convinced that something that big could not have moved
faster than a security camera!
I'm not actually convinced it was a missile but nothing else would fit
that time frame!
I am leaning toward holograms and planted demolitions even knowing the
Air Force has drones that would do nicely but a bunker buster would
have been too risky dont you think!?
joeturn
thingy(the ball) was anything other than a cursor to follow giving the
cartoon a trajectory path!
As you see nothing left a hole upon entry not ever the ball. Soo close
but no cigar!
http://www.blip.tv/file/3960058/
Now could anyone taking the Staton Island Ferry see a plane between
all them buildings or were they looking at the film where the backdrop
was removed?
Some people will say they shot the sheriff or AMEN at the drop of a
hat<I;-)
joeturn
because there were no Passenger planes used on 911!
To be a mastermind using commercial aircrat there has to be evidence
supporting such a claim and there was not any evidence that showed
Commercial Airplanes were used! Now they are saying the WTC buildings
were all empty and no body got killed!
Well I dissagree thousands of US Soldiers and Iraqis were slaughtered
because of the scam!
When will the War Crime Trials begin?
BillB you can post them from Pacer the whole world needs to see what
has been done!
Uncle Sams illegitamate children deserve to know!
Jerry Sturdivant
"joeturn" <joetu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Unanswered question............
>>
>> > ... and he has shown the
>> > froze fram the feds released includes both the impact and explosion
>> > befor the plane reaches its destination!
>>
>> And I have a Federal First Class FCC License, allowing me to run radio
>> and
>> TV stations; among other things. I'm telling you it's a refresh. The next
>> picture was interlacing with the old one. The last picture was the plane
>> entering, the next frame was the explosion. Half of each picture on was
>> the
>> screen at the same time.
>>
>> Jerry 'n Vegas
>>
>> > You have to be able to not let interlace technology destroy your
>> > concept of vedio analysis!
>>
>> > What possed you to bring up "interlaced" it is obviuos you know not of
>> > what(they do) you speak
>>
>> Yea, I'm only an expert at it.
>>
>> Jerry 'n Vegas- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> So expert Jerry N Stukavich
>
> You are saying that the film was faded and it was an intentional
> attemtp to keep truthers from showing the world what actually pasted
> from one frame to the next!
No, I'm not saying that and you know it. I posted fact and now you're
dodging it.
> Look closely you can see the two security
> cars left no stream of fog as they passed from one frame to the next
> as would anything travling at say 450mph.
Wrong.
> Now let your expertise guide you to the speed and size of so called
> airliner passing from frame to frame.
I posted it. It was a refresh overlap. It's one of the reasons nobody but
conspiracy nuts keep pointing to it.
> Now your surely convinced that something that big could not have moved
> faster than a security camera!
Proven.
> I'm not actually convinced it was a missile but nothing else would fit
> that time frame!
Except reality. There was a plane; it was seen.
> I am leaning toward holograms and ....
Conspiracy nuts.
Jerry 'n Vegas
joeturn
Here I was wrong the correct word should have been rocket plume
Now you look closly you can see video from the same security camera
release that shows no skip in frames while the security vehicles were
passing in front of it then suddenly we have a rocket plume in the
background THEY said was the fuselage of an airliner..
Checking video of the scene of a non-FADED(edited) version there is no
debree from a plane but a motor from a "drone" found on the scene.
Now someone ask the question about all the thousands of feet of wiring
required to pre-wire a building for demolition! My reply was the
explosive (beam cutting Thermate) was radio-controled and needed no
wires!
This should have allerted you to expertly analis the debree pile for
the Thousands of feet of electrical wiring that was removed from the
WTC buildings weeks before they were PULLED..
How about that Hero the one that said lets roll on the cell phone died
weeks before his patriotic duty kicked in?
>
> Wrong.
>
> > Now let your expertise guide you to the speed and size of so called
> > airliner passing from frame to frame.
>
> I posted it. It was a refresh overlap. It's one of the reasons nobody but
> conspiracy nuts keep pointing to it.
>
> > Now your surely convinced that something that big could not have moved
> > faster than a security camera!
>
> Proven.
>
> > I'm not actually convinced it was a missile but nothing else would fit
> > that time frame!
>
> Except reality. There was a plane; it was seen.
>
> > I am leaning toward holograms and ....
>
> Conspiracy nuts.
>
> Jerry 'n Vegas
>
> planted demolitions even knowing the
>
>
>
> > Air Force has drones that would do nicely but a bunker buster would
> > have been too risky dont you think!?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Jerry, Jerry, Jerry: There were "no planes" All that were seen was
cartoons of planes.
Planes cant just melt into buildings without being scattered all over
the out side.
The camera crew that shot the video was in on the farse to start a
war!
The Nadua brothers knew in advance and they knew the films would be
confiscated to be edited for the public.
The court case that set the so called terrorist masterminds free
declared their decision on the non-existance of planes!
The WTC buildings were a controlled demolition as was the Pentagram
AttacK was a hoax.
Your expertise should have guided you to know the back drop from the
same video shows cartoon planes but also NO buildings in the
backgrounds. This editing feature was called fading as they replaced
the buildings in the skyline with cartoon charaters!
Now Jery N Stuga Vitch Is your EXPERT analisis proclaimed!
I'm beginning to think you have been overpaid and you are a Government
plant to help Will the gullible away from reality!
Edward A. Falk
joeturn <joetu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>So Jerry I see you have emense knowledge in interlaced verses
>progressive. Why dont you explain how the interrlace tv screen effects
>the video fading! Enquiring minds wants to know!
I'm not Jerry, but for the benefit of those who are curious, here's how
it works:
Although TV video is nominally 30 frames per second (24 fps for film),
that's actually too slow -- the eye would detect the flicker. In movie
theaters, they get around the problem by showing each frame of film twice,
for an effective 48 fps.
With video, they do something somewhat different. They actually show
60 half-frames of video (called fields) per second. That is, for any
frame of video, they first paint the odd scanlines on the screen, and
then 1/60 second later, they paint the even scanlines. The odd and even
scanlines are interlaced together to form one picture.
Assuming the video came from an actual camera, the odd and even fields
will actually be recorded 1/60 second apart. When watched in realtime,
it looks perfectly normal because you see the fields in the order they
were recorded. But if you freeze-frame the video, you're looking at
two images, recorded 1/60 second apart, superimposed on each other.
In real life, explosions happen very quickly (faster than the speed of
sound, which is why they go boom). I think it's entirely possible that
you could have a single frame of video that shows both the before and
after views of an explosion.
--
-Ed Falk, fa...@despams.r.us.com
http://thespamdiaries.blogspot.com/
Jerry Sturdivant
"joeturn" <joetu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Cartoons. How apt.....
Be gone, fool; another one's being born in the next minute.
Jerry
Jerry Sturdivant
"Edward A. Falk" <fa...@rahul.net> wrote in message
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Very well described; but as you'll see, to little avail. You're dealing with
conspiracy nuts. The moment you explain their error, they'll come up with a
new one. Watch.
Jerry 'n Vegas
joeturn
> In article <b1a76dde-8c17-43cd-ad40-092dc2021...@l20g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
> http://thespamdiaries.blogspot.com/
This was a good discription of how interlaced interacts with Jerry's
Expert Analogy!
Now since Jerry is on holiday.Edward could you explain your
interpretation of FADING.
I'm saying the fed released video was doctored and deliberately given
to the public to create false hope!
However as usual they have created more doubt because an Airliner
does
not leave a rocket plume.
which is what's in the video!
Edward did you see how smooth the security vehicles moved around in
the first second of the doctored release there was not a bobble.
Jerry our very own self pro-claimed residentual expert could not see
any security vehicles in the release is it just my imagination?
I have posted several links to proove Jerry was misled but he cant
get
his head around being scamed by his Government.
Follow all those link eventually you will arrive at a place where you
dont have to be an EXPERT just open minded.
I've had people get hung up on grammar and just completely ignor
facts
because they wanted to fell me on spelling as it is easier to cast
doubt on the messenger that to educate yourself on reality!
joeturn
Here forget the paper/laser just watch the hole close up after impact
it is a cartoon!
http://letsrollforums.com/targeting-laser-light-spot-t1715.html
joeturn
You have been targeted Edward is it not funny why you being one of
three people at Burning Man the Soltice Celebration knew how to
assemble a geodesic dome the guy picked you out of one hundred
people?
Edward invite me to the Bohemian Grove this year I''l be your
effigy<I;-)
Edward A. Falk View profile In article <7f4e5de4-1c1e-42ff-
be05-7d148560a...@f26g2000vbm.googlegroups.com>, DerbyDad03
<teamarr...@eznet.net> wrote: >Right...those hundreds of cars that I
blow by at the toll booths are >all worried about be tracked. If not,
they should be. The data is essentially public. If you're ever
involved in a lawsuit, the opposing side can subpoena your records in
hopes of finding something there to use against you in court. If the
court case is a divorce, you can count on it as a certainty, but it
will happen pretty much any time the opposing thinks there's a ghost
of a chance that they'll find something useful. And don't think "if I
haven't done anything wrong, I don't have anything to fear". I've
been sued. Trust me, if there's ANY chance that something they find
might be used to prejudice a judge or a jury, they'll bring it up.
-- -Ed Falk, f...@despams.r.us.com http://thespamdiaries.blogspot.com/
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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 21:13:54 +0000 (UTC)
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DerbyDad03 <teamarr...@eznet.net> wrote:
>Right...those hundreds of cars that I blow by at the toll booths are
>all worried about be tracked.
If not, they should be. The data is essentially public. If you're
ever involved in a lawsuit, the opposing side can subpoena your
records in hopes of finding something there to use against you
in court. If the court case is a divorce, you can count on it
as a certainty, but it will happen pretty much any time the opposing
thinks there's a ghost of a chance that they'll find something
useful.
And don't think "if I haven't done anything wrong, I don't have
anything to fear". I've been sued. Trust me, if there's ANY
chance that something they find might be used to prejudice a
judge or a jury, they'll bring it up.
--
This is good advice Edward The Bush Administration will have their day
in court also and be sued by the victims familys of loved ones they
have killed! I know it can drag out for an eternity but it will go
down as Government Fraud against the whole world! This change in
history will make Benidict Arnold will look like a saint compared to
the Demonic Practices of Governments!
Jerry Sturdivant
"joeturn" <joetu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:db035442-4c8f-42a8...@f25g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> On Oct 6, 12:01 am, f...@rahul.net (Edward A. Falk) wrote:
>> In article
>> <b1a76dde-8c17-43cd-ad40-092dc2021...@l20g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
>>
>> -Ed Falk, f...@despams.r.us.com
>> http://thespamdiaries.blogspot.com/
>
> This was a good discription of how interlaced interacts with Jerry's
> Expert Analogy!
>
> Now since Jerry is on holiday.
After proving my points.
> Edward could you explain your
> interpretation of FADING.
>
> I'm saying the fed released video was doctored and deliberately given
> to the public to create false hope!
Or not.
> However as usual they have created more doubt because an Airliner does
> not leave a rocket plume.
> which is what's in the video!
Nope. It was ground effect (I'm also a pilot), or actually from the plane
touching the ground. But like I said: As soon as one of your idiot
conspiracy theories is disproven, you'll invent a new one....
> Edward did you see how smooth the security vehicles moved around in
> the first second of the doctored release there was not a bobble.
>
> Jerry our very own self pro-claimed residentual expert could not see
> any security vehicles in the release is it just my imagination?
Your imagination; as previously proven.
> I have posted several links to proove Jerry was misled
No, you have not. I have proved you wrong.
> but he cant get
> his head around being scamed by his Government.
Other than proving you wrong. "Interlace?" "Ground effect?" "Hello?"
> Follow all those link eventually you will arrive at a place where you
> dont have to be an EXPERT just open minded.
"Open minded" doesn't begin to explain how easily you're fooled.
> I've had people get hung up on grammar and just completely ignor facts
> because they wanted to fell me on spelling as it is easier to cast
> doubt on the messenger that to educate yourself on reality!
Like I've repeatedly educated you?
> Interlaced technology is too expensive to use it on television!$$$$$$$$
> $$$$$$$
Yet the television was interlaced.
Jerry 'n Vegas
joeturn
> "joeturn" <joeturn2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> - Show quoted text -
Jerry N Stuga Vitch you have not got the know how nor comprehetion
skills to educate anyone let alone yourself .You have to admit you
were wrong or are a part of the cover up!
You cant hide the intensified> The Bush Administration has to pay for
their evil atrosities!
This link is your hang up!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8385928943445813330&hl=en#
Here is a youtube link that coincides!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKG59NUdn8A&feature=related
It was a cartoon!
But the above two links are by far the most herendous crime that has
been forced upon its sheeple!
SUN-WORSHIP
Jerry Sturdivant
"joeturn" <joetu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Yet I proved my point about interlace and you couldn't dispute it.
>You have to admit you
> were wrong or are a part of the cover up!
WHA! HA~HA! Now I'm part of the big government cover up? See how desperate
you are. Like I said: I show how you're wrong and you simply make up another
conspiracy. This time, it's me.
Like we've been saying: You conspiracy nuts are a hoot.
Jerry 'n Vegas
joeturn
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>
> - Show quoted text -
Jerry youve still got that evil eye of horus on!
As our famous Astronut Bean says "close you eyes and pay attention"
If you do this you can see all them flashes!
Jerry the webb site letsrollforum.com gives you explicit imformation
that explains how the cartoon was made and a list of specially picked
partipants in the passengers list even the jumpers were faked.Their
were over 50 billionares on the 4 flights that day. Dont you think
they would have had their own private leer jets to cart them around
instead of riding in a cattle-car.
How did they get soo many to fly commercial that day?
The Planes involved never left the ground and flight 93 landed in
Cleveland the land in Shanksville belongs to Dick Cheney.Why did it
coincidentally crash on his property?
It was a cartoon Jerry to fool the world into believing we had been
attacted by terrorist so we the people would carry freedom to Iraq!
Freedom is just another word for nothing left to loose!
There was no grond effect it was a rock plume! There was not any
damage or trace of the landing gear hitting the Pentagram's lawn!
WAKE UP JERRY!
Ther arent but a few of you left that actually believe we were
attacted by anyone other than the Bush Administration!
War Criminals must be punished and not continuosly harbored by the
United States of America(the new Babylon)
Its all Sunworship the Jesuits think that if they are in control of
Jerusalem they will inheriet the Earth! Watch this Jerry it will shed
light on the reason why Governments have to keep their sheeple
disallusioned
joeturn
Jerry Sturdivant
"joeturn" <joetu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d808ee45-d9ff-4655...@28g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
I'll be getting glasses, soon.
> As our famous Astronut Bean says "close you eyes and pay attention"
Yea, that should work. Epically if you're a pilot.
> If you do this you can see all them flashes!
>
> Jerry the webb site letsrollforum.com gives you explicit imformation
> that explains how the cartoon was made and a list of specially picked
> partipants in the passengers list even the jumpers were faked.
WHA! HA... Opps, sorry, go on.
>Their
> were over 50 billionares on the 4 flights that day. Dont you think
> they would have had their own private leer jets to cart them around
> instead of riding in a cattle-car.
Oh, yea, that's what I usually do. (Heh).
> How did they get soo many to fly commercial that day?
Coupons? Two for one? Free extra bag? Seating in the No Terrorists Section?
> The Planes involved never left the ground and flight 93 landed in
> Cleveland the land in Shanksville belongs to Dick Cheney.Why did it
> coincidentally crash on his property?
His runway was too short?
> It was a cartoon Jerry to fool the world into believing we had been
> attacted by terrorist so we the people would carry freedom to Iraq!
Jeeze, and I love cartoons. You're a cartoon.
> Freedom is just another word for nothing left to loose!
>
> There was no grond effect it was a rock plume!
Gee, a plane with no ground effect. My instructor lied to me.
> There was not any
> damage or trace of the landing gear hitting the Pentagram's lawn!
Ground effect. Oh! Wait; this plane defied physics and didn't have ground
effect, I almost forgot.
> WAKE UP JERRY!
And smell the coffee, right?
> Ther arent but a few of you left that actually believe we were
> attacted by anyone other than the Bush Administration!
We're a rare breed. We should probably be investigated.
> War Criminals must be punished and not continuosly harbored by the
> United States of America(the new Babylon)
Do you need a visa to visit Babylon?
> Its all Sunworship the Jesuits think that if they are in control of
> Jerusalem they will inheriet the Earth! Watch this Jerry it will shed
> light on the reason why Governments have to keep their sheeple
> disallusioned
Yea, all them OTHER disillusioned sheeple.
Jerry (heh - snort) 'n Vegas
Edward A. Falk
joeturn <joetu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Now since Jerry is on holiday.Edward could you explain your
>interpretation of FADING.
I'm sorry; I seem to have missed part of the conversation. What
"fading" are we talking about? Do you have a pointer to a specific
video you have in mind?
joeturn
> In article <db035442-4c8f-42a8-bbba-06161218f...@f25g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,
>
> joeturn <joeturn2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >Now since Jerry is on holiday.Edward could you explain your
> >interpretation of FADING.
>
> I'm sorry; I seem to have missed part of the conversation. What
> "fading" are we talking about? Do you have a pointer to a specific
> video you have in mind?
>
> --
> http://thespamdiaries.blogspot.com/
So you cant explain FADING.
Well edward I assumed since you knew how two pictures could evolve
into one frame then you could explain how FADING was done to erase the
skyline in one video and replace it with airplanes and clear blue sky!
Photo Shop has this feature on still framed pictures and special
software from AVID interprises developed it for creating cartoons on
videos!
The word Avid employed some special effects even provided a fallen
angel the rode that so called pentagram attack that day flight 77 was
it?
joeturn
http://letsrollforums.com/video-fakery-ringer-among-t22041.html?t=22041&highlight=avid+tech
Edward A. Falk
I know what fading is, I was asking what specific fading you
were talking about. Do you have a link to a particular video?
>Well edward I assumed since you knew how two pictures could evolve
>into one frame then you could explain how FADING was done to erase the
>skyline in one video and replace it with airplanes and clear blue sky!
Ahhh, you're claiming that airplanes were added into a video, or
perhaps removed from one. It's hard to tell.
Given that there were tens of thousands of eye witnesses on the
ground at the time, I find it unlikely that even the most deranged
truther would try to claim that the videos of the event had been
retouched in some way.
So perhaps you could explain exactly what it is that you're claiming,
and provide a pointer to some evidence.
Edward A. Falk
joeturn <joetu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Connecting the AVID dots.
>
>http://letsrollforums.com/video-fakery-ringer-among-t22041.html?t=22041&highlight=avid+tech
Executive summary: The director of new business development of a
company that produces video processing technology was among the dead.
The company involved subsequently helped the FBI improve surveilance
video of the incident. Somehow this points to a shadowy conspiracy
involving video technology and the 9/11 attacks.
This is wharrgarrbl of the first order. If you can't come up with
something more substantial than this, maybe you should take up
a more useful hobby, like building a replica of the Taj Mahal
out of matchsticks or something. You know, something actually
productive.
raven1
Falk) wrote:
>In article <2e0aed44-59f1-4287...@i21g2000yqg.googlegroups.com>,
>joeturn <joetu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>So you cant explain FADING.
>
>I know what fading is, I was asking what specific fading you
>were talking about. Do you have a link to a particular video?
>
>
>>Well edward I assumed since you knew how two pictures could evolve
>>into one frame then you could explain how FADING was done to erase the
>>skyline in one video and replace it with airplanes and clear blue sky!
>
>Ahhh, you're claiming that airplanes were added into a video, or
>perhaps removed from one. It's hard to tell.
>
>Given that there were tens of thousands of eye witnesses on the
>ground at the time, I find it unlikely that even the most deranged
>truther would try to claim that the videos of the event had been
>retouched in some way.
Believe it. I've run into "truthers" who seriously espouse "no plane"
narratives of the attacks. They're a minority, but they do exist, in
alarming numbers ("alarming" referring to the fact that there's any at
all).
joeturn
> In article <7bea4d44-1b86-45fe-9e2e-f22193acf...@k22g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,> >http://letsrollforums.com/video-fakery-ringer-among-t22041.html?t=220...
>
> Executive summary: The director of new business development of a
> company that produces video processing technology was among the dead.
> The company involved subsequently helped the FBI improve surveilance
> video of the incident. Somehow this points to a shadowy conspiracy
> involving video technology and the 9/11 attacks.
>
> This is wharrgarrbl of the first order. If you can't come up with
> something more substantial than this, maybe you should take up
> a more useful hobby, like building a replica of the Taj Mahal
> out of matchsticks or something. You know, something actually
> productive.
>
> --
> http://thespamdiaries.blogspot.com/
So now your a government plant to discredit the truthers! Well Edward
your Government has made people think that Man has made it to the Moon
with cartoons!What makes you think Airplanes were used on the WCT
towers? Its obvious that a drone hit the Pentagram and its obvious the
videos were not released for publiview till after they were edited to
include planes as this was the plan. Even though you know planes cold
not have caused anything other than cosmedic damage!
If you really believe what your spewing then you have not followed the
links I've posted in this thread!
I have a video of the peoples response of the first explosion taken by
the missing Nadeau Brother and a video of the suspoedly first airplane
strike. But if you look in the fist few seconds you can not see any
plane just an explosion!
On the second towere hit you can see the plane was incorrectly edited
showing the cockpit of one plane coming out of the building
unscaved.In that same video you can see the whole shoreline agross the
hudson and buildings every where after editing that same frame shows
no buildings just a plane in the clear blue sky where did the
buildings go? They were FADED out with video editing software from
AVID TECH..
THe Letsrollforum.com tells you there were no dead bodys,no jumpers,no
believable passengers list and also tells you the buildings were
stripped of all office material and copper wiring and copper tubbing
befor the demolition occured.The planes said to have been used never
left the ground that day and are still flying today!
Flight 93 landed in Cleveland and never reached Chenneys personal plot
in shanksville!
But the worst scam of all was Christainity.Now what do you believe
Edward Falfk the (spamologist)?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8385928943445813330&hl=en#
joeturn
> On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 18:41:51 +0000 (UTC), f...@rahul.net (Edward A.
>
>
>
>
>
> Falk) wrote:
> >In article <2e0aed44-59f1-4287-bfd1-381274cf2...@i21g2000yqg.googlegroups.com>,
> >joeturn <joeturn2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>So you cant explain FADING.
>
> >I know what fading is, I was asking what specific fading you
> >were talking about. Do you have a link to a particular video?
>
> >>Well edward I assumed since you knew how two pictures could evolve
> >>into one frame then you could explain how FADING was done to erase the
> >>skyline in one video and replace it with airplanes and clear blue sky!
>
> >Ahhh, you're claiming that airplanes were added into a video, or
> >perhaps removed from one. It's hard to tell.
>
> >Given that there were tens of thousands of eye witnesses on the
> >ground at the time, I find it unlikely that even the most deranged
> >truther would try to claim that the videos of the event had been
> >retouched in some way.
>
> Believe it. I've run into "truthers" who seriously espouse "no plane"
> narratives of the attacks. They're a minority, but they do exist, in
> alarming numbers ("alarming" referring to the fact that there's any at
> all).
>
>
>
> >So perhaps you could explain exactly what it is that you're claiming,
>
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>
> - Show quoted text -
Edward A. Falk
raven1
Claims on a kook website are not evidence of anything. I know people
who witnessed the attacks; in fact, they watched the plane that hit
the south tower pass over them on the Staten Island Ferry. It
certainly didn't look like a computer animation to them.
joeturn
> In article <8efec034-84ed-4e59-8bee-ea676b389...@i5g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
>
> joeturn <joeturn2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >So now your a government plant to discredit the truthers!
>
> I see Poe's law at work here.
>
> --
> http://thespamdiaries.blogspot.com/
You have your Laws mixed up its Merphys Laws in play here!
joeturn
>
> - Show quoted text -
Kook website you say?
Aren't you the same person that had friends relatives working at NASA
during the Apollo Zero misions?
Well then your biased opinion cant even be put on the blind scales of
justice!
Edward Falk on the other hand is inquisative and shows promise.He
might be saved from Massive Government Brainwashing!
I have to first distinquish if he is a paid assasin or just MKed?
joeturn
> In article <8efec034-84ed-4e59-8bee-ea676b389...@i5g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
>
> joeturn <joeturn2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >So now your a government plant to discredit the truthers!
>
> I see Poe's law at work here.
>
> --
> http://thespamdiaries.blogspot.com/
What kind of law do you see going on here Edward Falk?
joeturn
>
> - Show quoted text -
Well then Raven1 according to this video of the Staten Island Ferry
underneath the Brooklin Bridge it prooves your friends lied to you as
the south tower plane came in from a different direction! it could not
have passed over them nor could they have seen the plane through the
skyscrapers!
Or could you agree with video editing for publc release?
raven1
I have lived in NY most of my life, and work 1 block from the Brooklyn
Bridge, and can assure you that the SI Ferry route doesn't pass under
it. It travels north across NY harbor from St. George in Staten
Island, and docks in Manhattan at the southernmost point. The Brooklyn
Bridge is around a mile north of that terminal, spanning the East
River between Manhattan and Brooklyn.
Edward A. Falk
joeturn <joetu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>http://desip.igc.org/NoPlanesOn911.html
I got about 15% of the way through this web page, and I read:
Claims that the buildings fell at freefall, which we know didn't happen.
Claims that steel-framed buildings don't collapse from fire, which
we know is false.
Claim that jet fuel burns at 800 degrees F which is wrong.
This site is either a parody (see Poe's Law) or written by a lunatic.
Either way, it contains no correlation to reality and I'm not wasting
any more time on it.
joeturn
> In article <1ff7da09-3371-4ec8-9ec7-cd71d531b...@t13g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
>
> joeturn <joeturn2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >http://desip.igc.org/NoPlanesOn911.html
>
> I got about 15% of the way through this web page, and I read:
>
> Claims that the buildings fell at freefall, which we know didn't happen.
Well you can see clearly that the buildings did not fall because of
heat from fires if this had been the case the buildings would have
melted onto the next floor at a much slower pace! No all the support
gave way in an instantas if it was imploded!
>
> Claims that steel-framed buildings don't collapse from fire, which
> we know is false.
I know of none, you know of none so how do you know they fell due to
heat?
>
> Claim that jet fuel burns at 800 degrees F which is wrong.
But is it wrong tp assume the whole building reached a collapable
temperature at once.If so how do you explain the fraudulant videos
that show people looking out the places where the temporature was the
hottest! had it have been hot enough to melt the steel eams it would
have made toast out of them before they got to the window to wave!
>
> This site is either a parody (see Poe's Law) or written by a lunatic.
> Either way, it contains no correlation to reality and I'm not wasting
> any more time on it.
If you've spent anytime at all on it then your time was not waisted!
Soon your curiosity will get the best of you and you will see the
buildings were completly empty of people before the inside job took
place and the jumpers were also added to fool the herd! Some of us can
see while others want to be followers and go along with the crowd!
There were too many BS storyies coming from the 91st floor!
It was a carefly planned hoax, but lives were lost by the workers that
went to clean up the shame as they were told, the air was clean, you
dont need mask just get this to the dump in hurry before it can be
inspected!
joeturn
>
> - Show quoted text -
Raven1 can you see anything different about the two top videos in
sink.One shows a lot of building across the way where as the one on
the right shows no buildings at all from the same angle wel one was
FADDED in a hurry to be shown as a live feed but the other had been
smoothed over to enclude the buildings on the other side of the water!
I think thats the one they got ready in 17 minutes!
They have taken away the run away bridge it was the funniest thing I
ever saw it was taken from a helicopter and the bridghe spans were
moving but nothing else in the video even budged!
joeturn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Wxrz7-sOgA&feature=related
Heres how Giuliani saves lives and is a model politicianor
http://infowars.net/articles/january2008/030108Giuliani.htm
Heres how Aleister Crowley got affiliated with the freemasons and
wrote their laws for them.
http://www.archive.org/details/AleisterCrowley-MastersOfDarkness
raven1
<joetu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Oct 20, 9:42 am, raven1 <quoththera...@nevermore.com> wrote:
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>Now then Raven1 what ferry is passing under the Brooklin Bridge in the
>video?
Who knows? The link you gave doesn't work. But again, the SI Ferry's
route doesn't pass under it or even near it.
raven1
I'll have to take your word for it, because the link you provided
doesn't work.
raven1
That will come as a surprise to the families of the 3000 or so people
killed in the attacks.
>and the jumpers were also added to fool the herd!
OK, you're either pretending to be completely batshit crazy, or you
actually are completely batshit crazy. Either way, you're not worth
wasting any more of my time.
joeturn
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No it will not come as a surprise,as there were no deaths due to the
controlled demolitian all the buildings were empty.
You say the link wont work huh wel watch this blue beam project work
in slow motion.The itsy bitsy plane is being hollogramed ont to the
tower but it does not make a hole!
One of my videos shows this federal officer/cameraman act surprised as
if he did not think anyone would fly planes into building $*&#%Could
he have gotten an emmy for that performance or not?
joeturn
http://www.truinsight.com/BLUEBEAM%20PROJECT%20DISCLOSURE%20PART%20TWO.htm
joeturn
> In article <b1a76dde-8c17-43cd-ad40-092dc2021...@l20g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
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> joeturn <joeturn2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> >So Jerry I see you have emense knowledge in interlaced verses
> >progressive. Why dont you explain how the interrlace tv screen effects
> >the video fading! Enquiring minds wants to know!
>
> I'm not Jerry, but for the benefit of those who are curious, here's how
> it works:
Well I certainly appreciate your explanation of how interlaced scans
compare to progressive scans
>
> Although TV video is nominally 30 frames per second (24 fps for film),
> that's actually too slow -- the eye would detect the flicker. In movie
> theaters, they get around the problem by showing each frame of film twice,
> for an effective 48 fps.
>
> With video, they do something somewhat different. They actually show
> 60 half-frames of video (called fields) per second. That is, for any
> frame of video, they first paint the odd scanlines on the screen, and
> then 1/60 second later, they paint the even scanlines. The odd and even
> scanlines are interlaced together to form one picture.
>
> Assuming the video came from an actual camera, the odd and even fields
Where else could the actual video come from,if not from a "camera",
which uses progressive scan?
> will actually be recorded 1/60 second apart. When watched in realtime,
> it looks perfectly normal because you see the fields in the order they
> were recorded. But if you freeze-frame the video, you're looking at
> two images, recorded 1/60 second apart, superimposed on each other.
Well I have to disagree here you may have gotten confused with digital
imaging on the monitor. Interlace scans a picture horizontaly and cant
compare with the progressive scans all cameras do thus the clear
quality seems to FADE if your looking at it from the side(not as sharp
as if your looking at it straight in front of the tv monitor!
Progressive sets scan the pixels vetically leaving a near perfect
playback since most every one is on the same plain of view!
>
> In real life, explosions happen very quickly (faster than the speed of
> sound, which is why they go boom). I think it's entirely possible that
> you could have a single frame of video that shows both the before and
> after views of an explosion.
Not on the same frame without a double exposure!
Your asuming again that if a tree falls in the forrest it makes no
sound if noone is around to hear it.
All vibrations comes from movement and all movement has a sound!
You got confused here by thinking sound has to be faster than 1100
feet per second(or quicker) or it cant be heard!
The Jesuits love number games and try to solve all situations
mathmatically.
They think lightning travels equal to the speed of light and have
spoon fed physics to compare the distance by timing the delay
betweenthe sight of a lightning strike and its audible effect on the
human ear!
Now do you think the sun light you see is always eight minutes old?
joeturn
Jerry(on top of everything) n Vegas
To explain the top two videos to you .He will point out that the
interlace refresh rate of WB11 the one on the right never shows
anything past the shoreline while on the left video taken from the
same camera,same angle there seems to be life beyond the building!!!!!
I watched Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy Theory last night and I personaly
think THEY are grooming him to be our next mesiah(president).
People are wanting a believable explanation for the 911 Hoax and Jesse
is feeding them cake! Most of what he says is true but he also told
that upon his acceptance of Governor he was drilled by a pannel of 23
FBI agents.I thing they MKed him right then!?
Oh well Most of the crazy sites started out pumping truth to the
people and then the main players were MKed to start adding foolish
stuff so everyone will dismiss all the truth along with the stupid
added garbage that was edited into their site by the controling elite!
In other words if there is one misspelled word then the whole book is
fiction so to speak.They have some how got to jim fetzer and now he
thinks there was a nuclear device exploded in the buildings to reduce
them to rubble! I think not!
Jesse is pushing (planes crashed into the buildings) when I think not.
The only person so far that is worthy of political office to represent
the people was the lady senator from arizona but she is out fauxed 253
to one.
Jerry Sturdivant
"joeturn" <joetu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Maybe you can get
>
> Jerry(on top of everything) n Vegas
>
> To explain the top two videos to you .He will point out that the
> interlace refresh rate of .....
I know you're embarrassed. Learn to lose; you waste my time.
Jerry 'n Vegas
joeturn
not explain away the presence of no planes and was not able to compare
interrlace/
progressive refresh rate having anything to do with film editing!
His wikipedia knowledge dwindled leaving him a little short of
explaining the difference nor why there was no significence in
bringing up INTERLACE TECHNOLOGY at all
I'll see if I can locate another example of the insink videos before
and after they were edited! But I tell you the one that has the
clearest view of a plane has the background FADED to cover up the
buildings agross the hudson and they dont show anything but blue sky
and airplanes! Now if you cant determine the difference in the two
videos you dont know Jack Smhitz about being an expert .
You will have to except being a jack of all trades but master of
none,cause your just a shade tree fixit man.
Jerry(dimwitted) n'Vegas<I;-)
Ahh I see what ya mean about links not working and it seems as though
THEY the men in black) are pulling links as fast as I post them.
However I believe this link more so that the live video feeds that
day!
joeturn
crash corectly on could avid technology faded out the other half of
this video?
You do believe my video was used to fool the herd dont you Jerry?<I;-)
A famous quote by our very own spamologist says
"But if you freeze-frame the video, you're looking at
two images, recorded 1/60 second apart, superimposed on each other."
Jerry here is you a video where Edward A Faulk forgot to freeze fram
it and add 19 Reator st.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3987559759580145833&hl=en#docid=557632548944575889