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GUNMAN KILLS 1; 5 NYPD GUNMEN KILL OTHER GUNMAN AND INJURES 9 INNOCENT CIVILIANS IN 16 SHOTS; NYPD DECLARES VICTORY
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Jason Pawloski
Aug 25, 2012, 4:22:53 PM8/25/12
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GUNMAN KILLS 1; 5 NYPD GUNMEN KILL OTHER GUNMAN AND INJURES 9 INNOCENT
CIVILIANS IN 16 SHOTS; NYPD DECLARES VICTORY
http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/NYPD-Empire-State-victims-hit-by-police-gunfire-3814498.php
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CIVILIANS IN 16 SHOTS; NYPD DECLARES VICTORY
http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/NYPD-Empire-State-victims-hit-by-police-gunfire-3814498.php
--
WILLIAM COLEMAN PHOTO GALLERY! See here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGg-mbTtlJ4&feature=youtu.be
William Coleman of Las Vegas Nevada is a dangerous, violent convicted
criminal. He has recently committed felonies in his harassment of an RGP
user.
"As a result of my encounter with the Henderson Police SWAT team, I
eventually pled guilty to Conspiracy to Commit a Crime, a gross
misdemeanor." - William Coleman admits that he is a convicted criminal
(cite: http://recgroups.com/a/1/127894/)
"I have killed many dogs in my life, and I will kill many more." William
P. Coleman boasting about his sociopathic tendencies (cite:
http://recgroups.com/a/1/128390/)
"For years, when I see one or more teenaged girls walking down the
street, I pull up beside them and ask them if they want to go smoke
dope and fuck. Amazingly, this technique gets good results fairly
often. Otherwise, I wouldn't continue to use it." Convicted criminal
William Coleman (cite: http://recgroups.com/a/1/123930/)
WARNING! 67-year old convicted criminal William Coleman describes how he
uses Facebook to meet minor girls. See:
http://recgroups.com/t/1/123914#a123914
O-PGManager
Aug 26, 2012, 4:21:35 PM8/26/12
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On Aug 25 2012 4:22 PM, Jason Pawloski wrote:
> GUNMAN KILLS 1; 5 NYPD GUNMEN KILL OTHER GUNMAN AND INJURES 9 INNOCENT
> CIVILIANS IN 16 SHOTS; NYPD DECLARES VICTORY
>
>
http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/NYPD-Empire-State-victims-hit-by-police-gunfire-3814498.php
Here's the video:
> GUNMAN KILLS 1; 5 NYPD GUNMEN KILL OTHER GUNMAN AND INJURES 9 INNOCENT
> CIVILIANS IN 16 SHOTS; NYPD DECLARES VICTORY
>
>
http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/NYPD-Empire-State-victims-hit-by-police-gunfire-3814498.php
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/24/empire-state-building-shooting-video_n_1829400.html
This story really blew me away. After seeing the video I'm not sure I
fault them as much for horrible as judgment as for being terrible shots.
Don't fire 14 times on a crowded street if you can't hit a target 6 feet
away.
There had to be a better way for them to handle this than engaging on a
crowded street. The guy was not a "mass shooter" - he had killed his
target and didn't appear to be threatening anyone else.
Thank god one of bloombergs machine gun toting stormtroopers wasn't on the
scene, dozens could have died.
Opie G. Manager
Rec.Gambling.Poker
Assistant Newsgroup Coordinator Emeritus (2009-2011)
VegasJerry
Aug 27, 2012, 5:49:45 PM8/27/12
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On Sunday, August 26, 2012 1:21:35 PM UTC-7, O-PGManager wrote:
> On Aug 25 2012 4:22 PM, Jason Pawloski wrote:
>
> > GUNMAN KILLS 1; 5 NYPD GUNMEN KILL OTHER GUNMAN AND INJURES 9 INNOCENT
> > CIVILIANS IN 16 SHOTS; NYPD DECLARES VICTORY
> >
> >
> http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/NYPD-Empire-State-victims-hit-by-police-gunfire-3814498.php
>
> Here's the video:
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/24/empire-state-building-shooting-video_n_1829400.html
>
> This story really blew me away. After seeing the video I'm not sure I
> fault them as much for horrible as judgment as for being terrible shots.
> Don't fire 14 times on a crowded street if you can't hit a target 6 feet
> away.
Real easy from the cheap seats, huh?
> On Aug 25 2012 4:22 PM, Jason Pawloski wrote:
>
> > GUNMAN KILLS 1; 5 NYPD GUNMEN KILL OTHER GUNMAN AND INJURES 9 INNOCENT
> > CIVILIANS IN 16 SHOTS; NYPD DECLARES VICTORY
> >
> >
> http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/NYPD-Empire-State-victims-hit-by-police-gunfire-3814498.php
>
> Here's the video:
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/24/empire-state-building-shooting-video_n_1829400.html
>
> This story really blew me away. After seeing the video I'm not sure I
> fault them as much for horrible as judgment as for being terrible shots.
> Don't fire 14 times on a crowded street if you can't hit a target 6 feet
> away.
You ask any veteran of war or a bar fight, why they didn't 'follow the book,' and see what you get. Some guy just shot other people and is pointing a gun at you, a trained professional from 10' feet away, you're going to take the extra time to look down field, come to a shooting stance, take aim?
Bullshit. You'd shit yourself getting off every shot in your gun.
> There had to be a better way for them to handle this
> than engaging on a crowded street.
> The guy was not a "mass shooter" - he had killed his
> target and didn't appear to be threatening anyone else.
> Thank god one of bloombergs machine gun toting stormtroopers
> wasn't on the scene, dozens could have died.
Jerry 'n Vegas
- 20 20 hindsight people are the smartest in the world.
O-PGManager
Aug 28, 2012, 8:57:32 AM8/28/12
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On Aug 27 2012 5:49 PM, VegasJerry wrote:
> > Thank god one of bloombergs machine gun toting stormtroopers
> > wasn't on the scene, dozens could have died.
>
> The next time you're in trouble - handle it yourself.
THANK YOU. Maybe 9 people wouldn't have been needlessly shot if someone
> > Thank god one of bloombergs machine gun toting stormtroopers
> > wasn't on the scene, dozens could have died.
>
> The next time you're in trouble - handle it yourself.
with some training and practice had handled it.
VegasJerry
Aug 28, 2012, 10:17:20 AM8/28/12
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On Tuesday, August 28, 2012 5:58:20 AM UTC-7, O-PGManager wrote:
> On Aug 27 2012 5:49 PM, VegasJerry wrote:
>
> > > Thank god one of bloombergs machine gun toting stormtroopers
> > > wasn't on the scene, dozens could have died.
> >
> > The next time you're in trouble - handle it yourself.
> THANK YOU. Maybe 9 people wouldn't have been needlessly shot if
> someone with some training and practice had handled it.
They were trained. That was in the part you cut. Sorry if I embarrassed you with fact.
> On Aug 27 2012 5:49 PM, VegasJerry wrote:
>
> > > Thank god one of bloombergs machine gun toting stormtroopers
> > > wasn't on the scene, dozens could have died.
> >
> > The next time you're in trouble - handle it yourself.
> THANK YOU. Maybe 9 people wouldn't have been needlessly shot if
> someone with some training and practice had handled it.
Jerry 'n Vegas
mo_ntresor
Aug 28, 2012, 11:05:10 AM8/28/12
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On Aug 28 2012 8:17 AM, VegasJerry wrote:
> > THANK YOU. Maybe 9 people wouldn't have been needlessly shot if
> > someone with some training and practice had handled it.
>
> They were trained. That was in the part you cut. Sorry if I embarrassed you
with fact.
they were trained? LOL! i'm dying over here, jerry. absolute side
> > THANK YOU. Maybe 9 people wouldn't have been needlessly shot if
> > someone with some training and practice had handled it.
>
> They were trained. That was in the part you cut. Sorry if I embarrassed you
with fact.
splitter there! let me guess, our public school teachers are "trained"
too ... ?
mo_ntresor
Bill Vanek
Aug 28, 2012, 11:46:05 AM8/28/12
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except he was in a life-or-death situation, or he should have at least
believed he was. Plus they both looked like they were taken by
surprise when the guy turned around. Didn't they understand that they
were after a guy with a gun? They might have been trained, but they
forgot it all.
mo_ntresor
Aug 28, 2012, 11:59:29 AM8/28/12
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On Aug 28 2012 9:46 AM, Bill Vanek wrote:
> >they were trained? LOL! i'm dying over here, jerry. absolute side
> >splitter there! let me guess, our public school teachers are "trained"
> >too ... ?
>
> >they were trained? LOL! i'm dying over here, jerry. absolute side
> >splitter there! let me guess, our public school teachers are "trained"
> >too ... ?
>
> Was that one officer trained to shoot one-handed? It was just like TV,
> except he was in a life-or-death situation, or he should have at least
> believed he was. Plus they both looked like they were taken by
> surprise when the guy turned around. Didn't they understand that they
> were after a guy with a gun? They might have been trained, but they
> forgot it all.
sure, take a giant shit on the middle class! i definitely want these
> except he was in a life-or-death situation, or he should have at least
> believed he was. Plus they both looked like they were taken by
> surprise when the guy turned around. Didn't they understand that they
> were after a guy with a gun? They might have been trained, but they
> forgot it all.
100k/yr. public "servants" protecting me. when my child's born, he's
going straight into the arms of devry educated public school teachers. i
hope he can get a six figure salary punching amtrak tickets, once a year
protesting job destroying devices like ticket machines.
mo_ntresor
Omaha8_Beach
Aug 29, 2012, 3:20:42 PM8/29/12
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On Aug 28, 10:46 am, Bill Vanek <bilva...@invalid.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 08:05:10 -0700, "mo_ntresor"
>
> On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 08:05:10 -0700, "mo_ntresor"
>
hit, but I think there were only 3 bystanders that were hit directly
by the bullets they fired. The rest were hit by fragments from the
stone flowerpots or ricocheting bullets. I know this still indicates
very poor accuracy on the part of the officers (considering they only
fired 16 shots) but that is certainly not as bad as what was implied
by the original headlines.
And I don't have all of the details, but it is my understanding that
these guys were not dispatched to apprehend this guy and weren't told
that he was armed and dangerous through their normal channels. It's
my understanding that the construction worker followed the shooter,
and when the construction worker spotted the officers on duty, he told
them what had just happened. I'm not making excuses for poor
accuracy, but imagine if you are a police officer and some guy comes
up to you and says "hey, that guy in the suit just shot and killed
someone". They would have no idea if the construction worker is
telling the truth or not, and I don't know if the normal procedure
would be to immediately draw their weapons as they approached a guy in
a suit that is just casually walking down a street.
I'm not saying that these guys were not trained for this type of
scenario, just that I don't think it is easy to really duplicate this
scenario and how you will respond to it, in a training environment.
Omaha8
mo_ntresor
Aug 29, 2012, 3:35:07 PM8/29/12
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wasn't so tragic.
mo_ntresor
Bill Vanek
Aug 29, 2012, 4:02:45 PM8/29/12
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On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 12:20:42 -0700 (PDT), Omaha8_Beach
<kenh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>And I don't have all of the details, but it is my understanding that
>these guys were not dispatched to apprehend this guy and weren't told
>that he was armed and dangerous through their normal channels. It's
>my understanding that the construction worker followed the shooter,
>and when the construction worker spotted the officers on duty, he told
>them what had just happened. I'm not making excuses for poor
>accuracy, but imagine if you are a police officer and some guy comes
>up to you and says "hey, that guy in the suit just shot and killed
>someone". They would have no idea if the construction worker is
>telling the truth or not, and I don't know if the normal procedure
>would be to immediately draw their weapons as they approached a guy in
>a suit that is just casually walking down a street.
Of course it would be normal procedure. You can't take chances when
<kenh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>And I don't have all of the details, but it is my understanding that
>these guys were not dispatched to apprehend this guy and weren't told
>that he was armed and dangerous through their normal channels. It's
>my understanding that the construction worker followed the shooter,
>and when the construction worker spotted the officers on duty, he told
>them what had just happened. I'm not making excuses for poor
>accuracy, but imagine if you are a police officer and some guy comes
>up to you and says "hey, that guy in the suit just shot and killed
>someone". They would have no idea if the construction worker is
>telling the truth or not, and I don't know if the normal procedure
>would be to immediately draw their weapons as they approached a guy in
>a suit that is just casually walking down a street.
lives are very possibly at stake. They're not supposed to approach
with the intention of shooting him, but they have to protect
themselves.
VegasJerry
Aug 29, 2012, 6:37:42 PM8/29/12
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On Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:08:28 AM UTC-7, mo_ntresor wrote:
> On Aug 28 2012 8:17 AM, VegasJerry wrote:
>
> > > THANK YOU. Maybe 9 people wouldn't have been needlessly shot if
> > > someone with some training and practice had handled it.
> > They were trained. That was in the part you cut.
> > Sorry if I embarrassed you with fact.
> they were trained? LOL! i'm dying over here, jerry.
Yea, you are. You're among the fools that think real life is what you see in the movies. That the cop should have walked up to the gunman and just stood there with a mean look (like Clint Eastwood); slowly drawing his gun as the gunman get scared and starts shooting at our unmovable hero ("Close-up of bullets skipping around our hero's feet - missing") as he slowly pulls his long-barrel 45 and shoot our bad guy between the eyes.
> On Aug 28 2012 8:17 AM, VegasJerry wrote:
>
> > > THANK YOU. Maybe 9 people wouldn't have been needlessly shot if
> > > someone with some training and practice had handled it.
> > They were trained. That was in the part you cut.
> > Sorry if I embarrassed you with fact.
> they were trained? LOL! i'm dying over here, jerry.
Fools like you are the reason police have such a hard time protecting your sorry ass.
Jerry 'n Vegas
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