Actual audio footage of your average NYPD encounter with a young man of
color - NYPD whistleblowers explain the illegal orders given to them by
commanders. We know where Jerry Sturdivant stands on stop and frisk - but
what about racism-hating BillB? If I had to guess he lines up pretty
squarely with thug mayor Bloomberg.
Opie G. Manager
Rec.Gambling.Poker
Assistant Newsgroup Coordinator Emeritus (2009-2011)
> Actual audio footage of your average NYPD encounter with a young man of
> color - NYPD whistleblowers explain the illegal orders given to them by
> commanders. We know where Jerry Sturdivant stands on stop and frisk - but
> what about racism-hating BillB? If I had to guess he lines up pretty
> squarely with thug mayor Bloomberg.
I'm sorry, I don't have time to watch your video right now. I'll just go with whatever Jerry says. He's the only real law enforcement professional around here.
> Actual audio footage of your average NYPD encounter with a young man of
> color - NYPD whistleblowers explain the illegal orders given to them by
> commanders. We know where Jerry Sturdivant stands on stop and frisk - but
> what about racism-hating BillB? If I had to guess he lines up pretty
> squarely with thug mayor Bloomberg.
Did you see the video Philadelphia cop beat someone at a parade for no
reason? Did you see that the chief either suspended or dismissed the cop,
and his cop gang banger buddies are running a fund raiser for the
dishonored cop? You can't even make this shit up in a movie, people
wouldn't believe it.
William Coleman of Las Vegas Nevada is a dangerous, violent convicted
criminal. He has recently committed felonies in his harassment of an RGP
user.
"As a result of my encounter with the Henderson Police SWAT team, I
eventually pled guilty to Conspiracy to Commit a Crime, a gross
misdemeanor." - William Coleman admits that he is a convicted criminal
(cite: http://recgroups.com/a/1/127894/)
"I have killed many dogs in my life, and I will kill many more." William
P. Coleman boasting about his sociopathic tendencies (cite:
http://recgroups.com/a/1/128390/)
"For years, when I see one or more teenaged girls walking down the
street, I pull up beside them and ask them if they want to go smoke
dope and fuck. Amazingly, this technique gets good results fairly
often. Otherwise, I wouldn't continue to use it." Convicted criminal
William Coleman (cite: http://recgroups.com/a/1/123930/)
> > Actual audio footage of your average NYPD encounter with a young man of
> > color - NYPD whistleblowers explain the illegal orders given to them by
> > commanders. We know where Jerry Sturdivant stands on stop and frisk - but
> > what about racism-hating BillB? If I had to guess he lines up pretty
> > squarely with thug mayor Bloomberg.
> Did you see the video Philadelphia cop beat someone at a parade for no
> reason? Did you see that the chief either suspended or dismissed the cop,
> and his cop gang banger buddies are running a fund raiser for the
> dishonored cop? You can't even make this shit up in a movie, people
> wouldn't believe it.
William Coleman of Las Vegas Nevada is a dangerous, violent convicted
criminal. He has recently committed felonies in his harassment of an RGP
user.
"As a result of my encounter with the Henderson Police SWAT team, I
eventually pled guilty to Conspiracy to Commit a Crime, a gross
misdemeanor." - William Coleman admits that he is a convicted criminal
(cite: http://recgroups.com/a/1/127894/)
"I have killed many dogs in my life, and I will kill many more." William
P. Coleman boasting about his sociopathic tendencies (cite:
http://recgroups.com/a/1/128390/)
"For years, when I see one or more teenaged girls walking down the
street, I pull up beside them and ask them if they want to go smoke
dope and fuck. Amazingly, this technique gets good results fairly
often. Otherwise, I wouldn't continue to use it." Convicted criminal
William Coleman (cite: http://recgroups.com/a/1/123930/)
> I'm sorry, I don't have time to watch your video right now. I'll just go > with whatever Jerry says. He's the only real law enforcement > professional around here.
> Actual audio footage of your average NYPD encounter with a young man of
> color - NYPD whistleblowers explain the illegal orders given to them by
> commanders. We know where Jerry Sturdivant stands on stop and frisk - but
> what about racism-hating BillB? If I had to guess he lines up pretty
> squarely with thug mayor Bloomberg.
Very interesting. I was most interested in the statistic given that "only" 1% of those stopped had a gun! Only one percent. Let's see ... 1800 stopped and ONLY 180 concealed weapons ... in NYC? Only 180?
I suspect there are two sides of the whole story and we have seen one side presented. I do not think it is proper for the police to harass anyone ... however, this one young man was "known" to the police. What they knew is unknown, of course. Talking back to the police is not a good idea. Jerry's admonition to do what the officer tells you is a good one.
A one sided anecdote is not much of case ... but do not think for a minute that I do not believe that there is racism and bad judgement by NYC (and other big city) police officers ... and do not think for a moment that those same officers sometimes have good reason for their prejudices.
I had a friend ask me last week if I could "help" him with a ticket ... 50 in a school zone. It was on the edge of the 2-4 time and after the school children were long gone. I did ask him if he was polite to the police officer ... he said "yes" ... "until he actually gave me the fucking ticket."
I am amazed that people believe that speaking to a police officer in anything other than a subservient manner is a "good thing" ... it does not matter whether your "rights" are being violated or not. It is just stupid. Many police officers are not the brightest folks in your community, why be dumber than you think they are? [They have a gun ... that seals the deal for me.]
PS: I can help you if you are polite to the nice officer.
> > Actual audio footage of your average NYPD encounter with a young man of
> > color - NYPD whistleblowers explain the illegal orders given to them by
> > commanders. We know where Jerry Sturdivant stands on stop and frisk - but
> > what about racism-hating BillB? If I had to guess he lines up pretty
> > squarely with thug mayor Bloomberg.
> Very interesting. I was most interested in the statistic given that > "only" 1% of those stopped had a gun! Only one percent. Let's see ... > 1800 stopped and ONLY 180 concealed weapons ... in NYC? Only 180?
William Coleman of Las Vegas Nevada is a dangerous, violent convicted
criminal. He has recently committed felonies in his harassment of an RGP
user.
"As a result of my encounter with the Henderson Police SWAT team, I
eventually pled guilty to Conspiracy to Commit a Crime, a gross
misdemeanor." - William Coleman admits that he is a convicted criminal
(cite: http://recgroups.com/a/1/127894/)
"I have killed many dogs in my life, and I will kill many more." William
P. Coleman boasting about his sociopathic tendencies (cite:
http://recgroups.com/a/1/128390/)
"For years, when I see one or more teenaged girls walking down the
street, I pull up beside them and ask them if they want to go smoke
dope and fuck. Amazingly, this technique gets good results fairly
often. Otherwise, I wouldn't continue to use it." Convicted criminal
William Coleman (cite: http://recgroups.com/a/1/123930/)
> Actual audio footage of your average NYPD encounter with a young man of
> color - NYPD whistleblowers explain the illegal orders given to them by
> commanders. We know where Jerry Sturdivant stands on stop and frisk - but
> what about racism-hating BillB? If I had to guess he lines up pretty
> squarely with thug mayor Bloomberg.
On Saturday, October 13, 2012 8:48:40 PM UTC-7, ChrisRobin wrote:
> On Oct 13 2012 9:34 PM, BillB wrote:
> > I'm sorry, I don't have time to watch your video right now. I'll just go > > with whatever Jerry says. He's the only real law enforcement > > professional around here.
> On Saturday, October 13, 2012 8:48:40 PM UTC-7, ChrisRobin wrote:
>> On Oct 13 2012 9:34 PM, BillB wrote:
>> > I'm sorry, I don't have time to watch your video right now. I'll just >> > go
>> > with whatever Jerry says. He's the only real law enforcement
>> > professional around here.
> > Actual audio footage of your average NYPD encounter with a young man of
> > color - NYPD whistleblowers explain the illegal orders given to them by
> > commanders. We know where Jerry Sturdivant stands on stop and frisk - but
> > what about racism-hating BillB? If I had to guess he lines up pretty
> > squarely with thug mayor Bloomberg.
> Very interesting. I was most interested in the statistic given that > "only" 1% of those stopped had a gun! Only one percent. Let's see ... > 1800 stopped and ONLY 180 concealed weapons ... in NYC? Only 180?
So let's apply that reasoning to other situations. Care to ride on an airliner where 1% of the passengers might be carrying a bomb? Care to take medicine where they only check 99% of it
>On Sunday, October 14, 2012 7:00:42 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
>> On 10/13/2012 7:06 PM, O-PGManager wrote:
>> > Great 13 min mini-doc on the subject:
>> > Actual audio footage of your average NYPD encounter with a young man of
>> > color - NYPD whistleblowers explain the illegal orders given to them by
>> > commanders. We know where Jerry Sturdivant stands on stop and frisk - but
>> > what about racism-hating BillB? If I had to guess he lines up pretty
>> > squarely with thug mayor Bloomberg.
>. >> Very interesting. I was most interested in the statistic given that >> "only" 1% of those stopped had a gun! Only one percent. Let's see ... >> 1800 stopped and ONLY 180 concealed weapons ... in NYC? Only 180?
>So let's apply that reasoning to other situations. Care to ride on an airliner where 1% of the passengers might be carrying a bomb? Care to take medicine where they only check 99% of it
>Jerry 'n Vegas
Why do you post? I mean, first, he either meant 10% or 18 guns, but
you completely misunderstood what he was saying anyhow.
How many times have you been stopped, frisked, and humiliated? Another
old white guy telling the 800,000 dark skinned kids that their harassment
is no big deal.
Opie G. Manager
Rec.Gambling.Poker
Assistant Newsgroup Coordinator Emeritus (2009-2011)
> > Actual audio footage of your average NYPD encounter with a young man of
> > color - NYPD whistleblowers explain the illegal orders given to them by
> > commanders. We know where Jerry Sturdivant stands on stop and frisk - but
> > what about racism-hating BillB? If I had to guess he lines up pretty
> > squarely with thug mayor Bloomberg.
William Coleman of Las Vegas Nevada is a dangerous, violent convicted
criminal. He has recently committed felonies in his harassment of an RGP
user.
"As a result of my encounter with the Henderson Police SWAT team, I
eventually pled guilty to Conspiracy to Commit a Crime, a gross
misdemeanor." - William Coleman admits that he is a convicted criminal
(cite: http://recgroups.com/a/1/127894/)
"I have killed many dogs in my life, and I will kill many more." William
P. Coleman boasting about his sociopathic tendencies (cite:
http://recgroups.com/a/1/128390/)
"For years, when I see one or more teenaged girls walking down the
street, I pull up beside them and ask them if they want to go smoke
dope and fuck. Amazingly, this technique gets good results fairly
often. Otherwise, I wouldn't continue to use it." Convicted criminal
William Coleman (cite: http://recgroups.com/a/1/123930/)
On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 09:15:11 -0700, "brattt" <af3...@webnntp.invalid>
wrote:
>On Oct 14 2012 10:40 AM, Bill Vanek wrote:
>> Why do you post? I mean, first, he either meant 10% or 18 guns, but
>> you completely misunderstood what he was saying anyhow.
>LOL quit dodgeting and answer his question
Right, so he can tell me to "learn to lose". I think he'd be a great
teacher on that subject, though. Continuous firsthand experience and
all. So many teachers are lacking in that area.
> > Actual audio footage of your average NYPD encounter with a young man of
> > color - NYPD whistleblowers explain the illegal orders given to them by
> > commanders. We know where Jerry Sturdivant stands on stop and frisk - but
> > what about racism-hating BillB? If I had to guess he lines up pretty
> > squarely with thug mayor Bloomberg.
> I'm sorry, I don't have time to watch your video right now. I'll just go
> with whatever Jerry says. He's the only real law enforcement
> professional around here.
So one side of an argument has a monopoly on the discussion. Besides,
Jerry isn't a law enforcement pro. He's a failed cop.
On Oct 14, 11:48 am, "O-PGManager" <ad63...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> How many times have you been stopped, frisked, and humiliated? Another
> old white guy telling the 800,000 dark skinned kids that their harassment
> is no big deal.
I've been stopped and frisked many times. The Birmingham police
department had no use for me when I was there in the late Sixties,
less than they had for most Black people. I never felt humiliated and
they never caught me for any of the many crimes I was committing back
then.
> On Oct 14, 11:48 am, "O-PGManager" <ad63...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> > How many times have you been stopped, frisked, and humiliated? Another
> > old white guy telling the 800,000 dark skinned kids that their harassment
> > is no big deal.
> I've been stopped and frisked many times. The Birmingham police
> department had no use for me when I was there in the late Sixties,
> less than they had for most Black people. I never felt humiliated and
> they never caught me for any of the many crimes I was committing back
> then.
> --
> Will in New Haven
I hope you're not citing the late 60s Birmingham police as an example of a
force using an acceptable approach to law enforcement.
"By his count, before his 18th birthday, he had been unjustifiably stopped
by the police more than 60 times. On several occasions, merely because he
asked why he had been stopped, he was handcuffed, placed in a cell and
detained for hours before being released without charges. These
experiences were scarring; Mr. Brehon did whatever he could to avoid the
police, often feeling as if he were a prisoner in his home."
> On Oct 14 2012 5:26 PM, Will in New Haven wrote:
>> On Oct 14, 11:48 am, "O-PGManager" <ad63...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>>> How many times have you been stopped, frisked, and humiliated? Another
>>> old white guy telling the 800,000 dark skinned kids that their harassment
>>> is no big deal.
>> I've been stopped and frisked many times. The Birmingham police
>> department had no use for me when I was there in the late Sixties,
>> less than they had for most Black people. I never felt humiliated and
>> they never caught me for any of the many crimes I was committing back
>> then.
>> --
>> Will in New Haven
> I hope you're not citing the late 60s Birmingham police as an example of a
> force using an acceptable approach to law enforcement.
> "By his count, before his 18th birthday, he had been unjustifiably stopped
> by the police more than 60 times. On several occasions, merely because he
> asked why he had been stopped, he was handcuffed, placed in a cell and
> detained for hours before being released without charges. These
> experiences were scarring; Mr. Brehon did whatever he could to avoid the
> police, often feeling as if he were a prisoner in his home."
> Pickle will never have a clue.
You may be correct ... I do not know the difference between 10% and 1%.
However, if it takes 100 stop and frisks on suspicion to get one concealed weapon, that seems reasonable.
"By his count" does not mean much to me nor does his likely definition of "unjustifiably". A lot of things happened in the 60s and a lot of things are happening now. I can see why people might be upset by certain police actions ... I also understand that victims of crime in the area where the "suspicious activity" is taking place might have a different view of the situation.
It is difficult to be a policeman these days. Might be a chicken and egg thing ... or it might not.
> On Oct 15, 2:03 am, da pickle <jcpick...@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:
>> It is difficult to be a policeman these days. Might be a chicken and
>> egg thing ... or it might not.
> Chicken *or* egg. As I've said before on RGP, the 'or' instead of
> 'and' is fucking vital in the understanding of the expression, you
> fucking retard.
Sorry you were confused ... I said it might "not" be a "chicken and egg" thing.
On Oct 15, 1:38 pm, da pickle <jcpick...@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> It is difficult to be a policeman these days. Might be a chicken and
> >> egg thing ... or it might not.
> > Chicken *or* egg. As I've said before on RGP, the 'or' instead of
> > 'and' is fucking vital in the understanding of the expression, you
> > fucking retard.
> Sorry you were confused ... I said it might "not" be a "chicken and egg"
> thing.
