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halfpastdead  
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 More options Oct 29 2012, 11:13 pm
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From: "halfpastdead" <aa94...@webnntp.invalid>
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 20:10:11 -0700
Local: Mon, Oct 29 2012 11:10 pm
Subject: SALABURUS CALL WITH QQ WAS HORRIBLE
so so bad to call that there

Third of all, under UIGEA, transferring funds to and from any internet
gambling venue is illegal if any  US financial institution is involved
in the transfer.

As has been pointed out in another thread, Visa cards seem to work
with Carbon Poker.

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 More options Oct 29 2012, 11:49 pm
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Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 20:49:17 -0700
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Subject: Re: SALABURUS CALL WITH QQ WAS HORRIBLE

"halfpastdead" <aa94...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message

news:j1t3m9x341.ln2@news.ezprovider.com...

> so so bad to call that there

I thought Esfandiari's analysis was right on.

Jim


 
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 More options Oct 30 2012, 12:03 am
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From: "XaQ Morphy" <a1c5...@webnntp.invalid>
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 21:03:01 -0700
Local: Tues, Oct 30 2012 12:03 am
Subject: Re: SALABURUS CALL WITH QQ WAS HORRIBLE
On Oct 29 2012 10:10 PM, halfpastdead wrote:

> so so bad to call that there

I'll preface this by saying that I wasn't here and didn't see it on tv,
but I just read it on pokernews.  That's a 100% standard hand and standard
spot there.  10 years ago that's a 100% standard fold with QQ, but in
today's poker this is perfectly standard.

You have to look at Salaburu's style and how many hands he's capable of
having in that spot.  That's where ranging comes into play.  Balsiger
knows that he's capable of having a wide range there, so his shoving range
doesn't have to be KK+ there.

Biscuit just called it a pretty standard call too, so I'm gonna go with
him over you on this one.  sorry!

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 More options Oct 30 2012, 12:04 am
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From: "Clave" <ChrisClav...@TheMonastery.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 21:04:08 -0700
Local: Tues, Oct 30 2012 12:04 am
Subject: Re: SALABURUS CALL WITH QQ WAS HORRIBLE

"Clave" <ChrisClav...@TheMonastery.com> wrote in message

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> "halfpastdead" <aa94...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> news:j1t3m9x341.ln2@news.ezprovider.com...

>> so so bad to call that there

> I thought Esfandiari's analysis was right on.

Never mind -- I thought you were talking about the Thomas/Gee hand.

Jim


 
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 More options Oct 30 2012, 1:58 pm
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From: "halfpastdead" <aa94...@webnntp.invalid>
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 10:56:20 -0700
Local: Tues, Oct 30 2012 1:56 pm
Subject: Re: SALABURUS CALL WITH QQ WAS HORRIBLE
On Oct 29 2012 11:03 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:

"standard play" gets you broke

old saying in poker .. "NEVER get all your chips in the pot PF witha Q in
your hand .

Third of all, under UIGEA, transferring funds to and from any internet
gambling venue is illegal if any  US financial institution is involved
in the transfer.

As has been pointed out in another thread, Visa cards seem to work
with Carbon Poker.

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 More options Oct 30 2012, 2:33 pm
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From: "XaQ Morphy" <a1c5...@webnntp.invalid>
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 11:21:51 -0700
Local: Tues, Oct 30 2012 2:21 pm
Subject: Re: SALABURUS CALL WITH QQ WAS HORRIBLE
On Oct 30 2012 12:56 PM, halfpastdead wrote:

> "standard play" gets you broke

> old saying in poker .. "NEVER get all your chips in the pot PF witha Q in
> your hand .

There's a reason why it's an old saying.  Not gonna argue with you on this
because you'll never change your mind, which is why I'll defer to someone
like Olivier.  His analysis was perfect.

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 More options Oct 30 2012, 9:03 pm
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Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 18:02:49 -0700
Local: Tues, Oct 30 2012 9:02 pm
Subject: Re: SALABURUS CALL WITH QQ WAS HORRIBLE
Rather than relying on an "old saying," can you explain the actual reason
WHY you think this was a bad call?

On Oct 30 2012 1:56 PM, halfpastdead wrote:


 
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 More options Oct 31 2012, 1:38 am
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From: "XaQ Morphy" <a1c5...@webnntp.invalid>
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 22:35:32 -0700
Local: Wed, Oct 31 2012 1:35 am
Subject: Re: SALABURUS CALL WITH QQ WAS HORRIBLE
On Oct 30 2012 8:02 PM, gtech1 wrote:

> Rather than relying on an "old saying," can you explain the actual reason
> WHY you think this was a bad call?

Because in 1987 the only hands they had there were KK/AA and AK, and
that's all that doggy knows.

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